[07:52] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I would add all channels. Why would anyone add more cards, but only two channels from each?
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: the grey-out frame arround the window in 16.04 is also present arrouund the menus that pop up from the xfce4-pannel icons...
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> must be some png that was saved without the gammalayer
[11:21] <sakrecoer_> or is missing..
[11:22] <sakrecoer_> in gedit, the png frame is there, there is clearly a shadow shade... 
[11:23] <sakrecoer_> in xfce4-pannel, its only the indicator plugin that gives the grey frame.
[14:08] <OvenWerk1> zequence: yes, I will add them all. I have to find out how many there are first as zita-ajbridge does not have a "useall" option.
[14:10] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: While I am sure the grey frame will get "fixed" in gedit, I am not so sure it will look like it belongs as it wants to draw it's own window decorations that are different from the rest.
[14:41] <OvenWerk1> zequence: I think I also need to be able to add interfaces to ignore: IGNORE=CAMERA AudioPCI,1
[14:42] <OvenWerk1> For example. (hw:AudioPCI,1 happens to block the input for AudioPCI,0)
[14:44] <OvenWerk1> ... not that very many people have those any more, I would actually block both because my purpose for the card is the MIDI port.
[15:12] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerk1: yeah... i struggled to understand what was missing at first. i think it looks good, but i don't think it is very clever of the gedit devs to do it like that...
[18:24] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: it looks good if everything else looks the same. In times gone by it was always a problem that kde apps looked very different from Gnome apps and older apps are different again.
[18:25] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: so there was an effort to make things so they could be somewhat unified.
[18:25] <OvenWerk1> That seems to be going out the door again.
[18:30] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: take a look at xfig for what I mean by old  :)
[18:30]  * OvenWerk1 still uses xfig from time to time.
[23:46] <Accidentalmeme> Hello