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| Guest8846 | Good morning | 05:34 |
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| Unit193 | pitti_: Looking for /msg nickserv releaes pitti <password> ? | 06:12 |
| pitti_ | Unit193: no, looking for what causes "read(fd=4): Connection error: Connection reset by peer" with bip when trying to connect to freenode.. | 06:12 |
| pitti_ | I'm connected directly now, I keep "pitti" for bip when it starts succeeding again | 06:13 |
| pitti_ | Unit193: well, I tried that now, maybe it's related | 06:14 |
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| pitti | ah thanks, that was it! | 06:21 |
| Unit193 | ...Weeeird, well that's bip for you I guess. | 06:22 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:40 |
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| caribou | DDOS on Freenode this morning | 08:59 |
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| cpaelzer | it seems I have to add debian/compat for a merge (as documented in man debhelper) | 09:48 |
| cpaelzer | with xenial my sbuild and man debhelper are telling me to add a debian/compat but it also wants "Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9)" | 09:48 |
| cpaelzer | Now this package doesn't have debhelper as a dependency yet, only dh-autoreconf. | 09:48 |
| cpaelzer | Would it be more sufficient to add the (>= 9) to dh-autoreconf instead of adding debhelper? | 09:49 |
| pitti | dh-autoreconf depends on debhelper | 09:49 |
| pitti | dh-autoreconf (>= 9) doesn't change anything in that regard | 09:49 |
| cpaelzer | pitti, thanks that solves my thoughts, so I can add "debhelper (>= 9)" without actually adding a new dep | 09:50 |
| pitti | so if you set debian/compat to 9, you have to b-dep on debhelper (>= 9) too; or use a lower compat level (but at least 7 please) | 09:50 |
| pitti | cpaelzer: yes; it's irrelevant for xenial, but important for backports and the like | 09:50 |
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| jamespage | mvo, hey - are you aware of any issues with apt 1.1 in Debian unstable? all my sid chroots starting failing to update last night - stalling on '0% [Working]' | 12:16 |
| jamespage | I tried a downgrade to the 1.0 release and that unblocked me for now | 12:16 |
| cjwatson | jamespage: Would it be possible for somebody to have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/xz-indexes/+merge/277880 ? The CI failures don't make any sense to me (testbed problems?), and it'll need a charmer to review and merge | 12:27 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, taking a look now | 12:27 |
| jamespage | cjwatson, urgh the logs cycled out on the archiving policy on the review-queue jenkins - poking with a resubmit but I can't see why your change would cause a failure.... | 12:29 |
| cjwatson | indeed | 12:29 |
| mvo | jamespage: yes, fix is in git | 12:47 |
| mvo | jamespage: I will upload that later today (in ~2-3h) | 12:47 |
| cjwatson | doko: I just noticed by accident, when you tried to enable seccomp on all arches in qemu/wily, you actually ended up disabling it on all arches - because the magic "parse configure options out of debian/control" thing in qemu wants "linux-*" on the --enable-seccomp line there, not "linux-any" | 12:56 |
| cjwatson | hallyn_: ^- | 12:56 |
| cjwatson | still true in xenial as well by the looks of things | 12:57 |
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| didrocks | @pilot in | 13:01 |
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| cjwatson | doko,hallyn_: also, qemu's configure script has seccomp detection hardcoded to only work on x86 anyway ... | 13:51 |
| doko | cjwatson, I'll have a look on Monday | 13:59 |
| mvo | doko: will you (or anyone else) hate me if I upload http://paste.ubuntu.com/13526521/ ? i.e. add UBUNTU_CODENAME to /etc/os-release? | 14:02 |
| doko | mvo, hmm, maybe we could coordinate with Debian to use the same name for this var? isn't that owned by systemd maintainers/ pitti? | 14:03 |
| doko | mvo, will you merge apt? | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | into snappy ! | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | :) | 14:04 |
| juliank | Maybe delay the APT merge for ~24 hours, we still discover issues in reverse dependencies. | 14:05 |
| mvo | doko: are you trying to make a deal with me? like "you can have UBUNTU_CODENAME= if you merge apt" ;)? | 14:05 |
| mvo | doko: but yeah, I have a merge ready | 14:05 |
| mvo | doko: https://launchpad.net/~mvo/+archive/ubuntu/apt-xenial has it mostly prepared, its now a bit dated because of $OMG (as juliank said) | 14:05 |
| juliank | mvo: You can also sync libept 1.1+nmu2 as soon as it is in unstable | 14:06 |
| juliank | Well, with the rest of the APT stuff | 14:06 |
| mvo | doko: but yeah, I can wait for pitti and his opinion on http://paste.ubuntu.com/13526521/ | 14:07 |
| doko | mvo: well, I'd like to see something more like DISTRO_CODENAME | 14:07 |
| ogra_ | cat pics ? | 14:07 |
| juliank | maybe DISTRO_SHORT_CODENAME or something | 14:07 |
| mvo | doko: I think that would make sense, however the freedesktop spec recommends prefixing with $distro if its not an official key. but then… it does make sense | 14:07 |
| pitti | mvo: seems okay, but you can't rely on it in earlier releases, so for the time being we'd still need an lsb_release -sc fallback | 14:08 |
| pitti | mvo: long-term that seems fine, though | 14:08 |
| ogra_ | mvo, we might also wnat a snappy specific key too ... currently there is no easy way to find you are in a snappy system | 14:08 |
| pitti | yes, DISTRO_SHORT_CODENAME should rather be added to the spec itself first (certainly preferrable) | 14:08 |
| ogra_ | (iirc there was a bug open for that) | 14:08 |
| pitti | ogra_: `which snappy` or so? which bears the question, what a "snappy system" actually is | 14:09 |
| ogra_ | pitti, a system totally without dpkg :) | 14:09 |
| pitti | snappy installed? dpkg not installed? classic env on snappy? snappy env on classic? etc. | 14:10 |
| ogra_ | pitti, mvo bug 1481086 | 14:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1481086 in Snappy "Need API/cli method to know if "is_snappy"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1481086 | 14:11 |
| juliank | UBUNTU_SNAPPY=true | 14:11 |
| ogra_ | yeah, that would be fine | 14:12 |
| juliank | You could also try upstreaming DISTRO_PACKAGE_TYPE={deb,rpm,snappy,...} | 14:14 |
| juliank | or something like that | 14:14 |
| juliank | Maybe someone has a use for that | 14:15 |
| pitti | ogra_: so, Fedora? :-) | 14:15 |
| ogra_ | hah | 14:15 |
| pitti | nah, this is too convoluted | 14:15 |
| pitti | there's no reason in principle why you couldn't have more than one | 14:16 |
| pitti | if you want to use dpkg or snappy, check for dpkg or snappy, let's not try to do abstractions where they don't make much sense | 14:16 |
| xnox | mvo, there is a new codename things in os-release no?! | 14:16 |
| mvo | xnox: since when? do you have a pointer? | 14:17 |
| mvo | xnox: and WELCOME BACK, really good to see you | 14:17 |
| xnox | well. i think i mixed it up a little. | 14:17 |
| xnox | there is new VARIANT= and VARIANT_ID= which fedora uses for desktop/server et.al. and i guess for us maps to "desktop/kubuntu/xubuntu/etc." | 14:18 |
| xnox | http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/os-release.html | 14:18 |
| xnox | and there is also CPE_NAME= | 14:18 |
| xnox | http://scap.nist.gov/specifications/cpe/ | 14:18 |
| juliank | Well, if you wanted VARIANT, you could not have it in base-files anymore | 14:18 |
| xnox | example is given as "CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:fedoraproject:fedora:17"" but i don't know if we want that. | 14:18 |
| ogra_ | xnox, yeah, that is why i mentioned VARIAND and VARIANT_ID in treh bug | 14:18 |
| ogra_ | seems sabdfl didnt like that though | 14:19 |
| ogra_ | wanting something stronger | 14:19 |
| xnox | mvo, i'd vote to use VARIANT='Xenial Xerus' and VARIANT_ID=xenial | 14:19 |
| juliank | Don't do that | 14:19 |
| xnox | =) | 14:19 |
| juliank | Maybe the best option is actually to introduce DISTRO_CODENAME and DISTRO_PRETTY_CODENAME | 14:20 |
| xnox | CODENAME= & CODENAME_ID sounds good to me. | 14:21 |
| juliank | That'd work too | 14:21 |
| xnox | mvo, do you need it in /etc/os-release? we already have | 14:21 |
| xnox | DISTRIB_CODENAME=wily in /etc/lsb-release | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | xnox, lsb-release depnds on python | 14:21 |
| ogra_ | long term we want to dorop that from the snappy image | 14:22 |
| juliank | Is the file there too? | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | yes | 14:22 |
| juliank | Why not move that to base-files? | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | os-release is in base-files | 14:22 |
| xnox | the file is there.... it's not meant to be parsed directly, however in snappy case i don't see why not =) | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | xnox, why would we, os-release is a req. od systemd anyway | 14:23 |
| juliank | Right. | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | *of | 14:23 |
| xnox | ogra_, fyi /etc/lsb-release file is in base-files and always has been. | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | so no need for lsb-release at all | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | oh, thanks | 14:23 |
| * ogra_ wasnt sure where it actually comes from | 14:23 | |
| juliank | ogra_: It at least seems like a good workaround until it's in os-release, and usable on old releases too | 14:24 |
| xnox | i'm not talking about lsb-release package, or lsb_release programme =) | 14:24 |
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| xnox | jpds, are you planning to merge strongswan? debian is at 5.3.4-1 and we are at 5.1.2-0ubuntu7 | 14:32 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | Unit193, https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-virtualbox/virtualbox.git/commit/?id=328a07c9e74d831a64f5f95294ac020a23c32966 | 15:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | the problem is that it doesn't work | 15:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | http://debomatic-amd64.debian.net/distribution#unstable/virtualbox/5.0.10-dfsg-4/piuparts | 15:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | also lintian complains... I had to revert the change, but if you have a trick I'll be happy to apply it | 15:03 |
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| caribou | what would be a good way to debug ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} expansion ? | 15:15 |
| caribou | LP: #1506550 is caused by a different expansion b/w Debian & Ubuntu | 15:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1506550 in quassel (Ubuntu) "quassel can't play audio notifications in wily" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1506550 | 15:16 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | thanks didrocks :) | 15:26 |
| didrocks | LocutusOfBorg1: yw, thanks to you ;) | 15:27 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I really hope next time to use requestsync pbuilder ;) | 15:27 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | mapreri, ^^^ :D | 15:27 |
| didrocks | LocutusOfBorg1: that would be great, indeed! | 15:28 |
| hallyn_ | cjwatson: hm, yeah, that should be fixed upstream | 15:44 |
| hallyn_ | (qemu, seccomp detection in configure) | 15:48 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | mvo, what about an apt plain sync? | 15:57 |
| mddubs | Hi all, anyone online who's contributed to the codebase before? | 16:00 |
| brendand | mddubs, just a few of us :) | 16:03 |
| brendand | mddubs, do you have a question, please feel free to ask it | 16:03 |
| mddubs | OK thanks :) | 16:04 |
| mddubs | I want the alt-tab switcher to always appear in my center primary monitor, or all monitors. I can't get used to it always moving around depending on where the mouse is. | 16:06 |
| mddubs | I've searched pretty extensively and don't think there's currently a way to resolve this, so I thought over the holidays I'd attempt to contribute that. I have 10 years open-source web development experience and I'd really like to try committing something small to a large project like this. | 16:07 |
| mddubs | So I'm looking for a little direction, I realize Ubuntu itself might not be the place to make the change. Unity? Compiz? Any advice would be appreciated. | 16:08 |
| didrocks | @pilot out | 16:10 |
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| * dholbach hugs didrocks | 16:10 | |
| mvo | LocutusOfBorg1: we still have a small delta, I hope I can kill that but right now it still exists | 16:12 |
| * didrocks hugs dholbach back | 16:12 | |
| dholbach | :) | 16:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, good job! ;-) | 16:15 |
| mvo | LocutusOfBorg1: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/apt/apt.git/tree/debian/changelog?h=ubuntu/master has the details, not much left to merge upstream | 16:16 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | indeed, I looked at the current apt in xenial (the delta) | 16:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | and it was "droppable" to me | 16:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I didn't think about a new delta lol | 16:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | thanks! | 16:17 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I really like the new apt | 16:17 |
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| brendand | mddubs2, i'm pretty sure that can be set | 16:54 |
| brendand | mddubs2, ah you said the alt-tab switcher | 16:54 |
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| lamont | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13529194/ is why I care about ibus | 17:56 |
| lamont | (intellij) | 17:56 |
| seb128 | but I would expect you to use a qwerty keybord and no im? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | or is ibus used even for non-im users? | 17:57 |
| lamont | seb128: I think it is... dunno. my keyboard lang choices in the pull down are "English" | 17:58 |
| seb128 | lamont, is ibus active? does intellij works if you kill ibus-daemon? | 17:59 |
| seb128 | lamont, anyway happyaron said he has the merge ready and he would upload this w.e | 17:59 |
| lamont | pycharm . | 18:01 |
| lamont | log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger (io.netty.util.internal.logging.InternalLoggerFactory). | 18:01 |
| lamont | log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly. | 18:01 |
| lamont | log4j:WARN See http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/faq.html#noconfig for more info. | 18:01 |
| lamont | [ 17554] WARN - ConfigurableExtensionPointUtil - ignore deprecated groupId: editor for id: editor.preferences.import | 18:01 |
| lamont | now it just locks up without the intellij errors... I thin kwe can call this progress | 18:01 |
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| Unit193 | LocutusOfBorg1: It's a nice start, but yeah it usually needs a few args, for example the init script I'm using sources /etc/default/virtualbox, where you need to set the user to that which uses virtualbox. You can also set host there, which is needed if, say phpvirtualbox is on a different host on the network. | 20:06 |
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| slangasek | @pilot in | 23:04 |
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| LocutusOfBorg1 | Unit193, can you please push the changes on virtualbox.git repo? | 23:28 |
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