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Guest8846Good morning05:34
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Unit193pitti_: Looking for /msg nickserv releaes pitti <password>  ?06:12
pitti_Unit193: no, looking for what causes "read(fd=4): Connection error: Connection reset by peer" with bip when trying to connect to freenode..06:12
pitti_I'm connected directly now, I keep "pitti" for bip when it starts succeeding again06:13
pitti_Unit193: well, I tried that now, maybe it's related06:14
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pittiah thanks, that was it!06:21
Unit193...Weeeird, well that's bip for you I guess.06:22
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dholbachgood morning08:40
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caribouDDOS on Freenode this morning08:59
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cpaelzerit seems I have to add debian/compat for a merge (as documented in man debhelper)09:48
cpaelzerwith xenial my sbuild and man debhelper are telling me to add a debian/compat but it also wants "Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9)"09:48
cpaelzerNow this package doesn't have debhelper as a dependency yet, only dh-autoreconf.09:48
cpaelzerWould it be more sufficient to add the (>= 9) to dh-autoreconf instead of adding debhelper?09:49
pittidh-autoreconf depends on debhelper09:49
pittidh-autoreconf (>= 9) doesn't change anything in that regard09:49
cpaelzerpitti, thanks that solves my thoughts, so I can add "debhelper (>= 9)" without actually adding a new dep09:50
pittiso if you set debian/compat to 9, you have to b-dep on debhelper (>= 9) too; or use a lower compat level (but at least 7 please)09:50
pitticpaelzer: yes; it's irrelevant for xenial, but important for backports and the like09:50
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jamespagemvo, hey - are you aware of any issues with apt 1.1 in Debian unstable? all my sid chroots starting failing to update last night - stalling on '0% [Working]'12:16
jamespageI tried a downgrade to the 1.0 release and that unblocked me for now12:16
cjwatsonjamespage: Would it be possible for somebody to have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/charms/trusty/ubuntu-repository-cache/xz-indexes/+merge/277880 ?  The CI failures don't make any sense to me (testbed problems?), and it'll need a charmer to review and merge12:27
jamespagecjwatson, taking a look now12:27
jamespagecjwatson, urgh the logs cycled out on the archiving policy on the review-queue jenkins - poking with a resubmit but I can't see why your change would cause a failure....12:29
mvojamespage: yes, fix is in git12:47
mvojamespage: I will upload that later today (in ~2-3h)12:47
cjwatsondoko: I just noticed by accident, when you tried to enable seccomp on all arches in qemu/wily, you actually ended up disabling it on all arches - because the magic "parse configure options out of debian/control" thing in qemu wants "linux-*" on the --enable-seccomp line there, not "linux-any"12:56
cjwatsonhallyn_: ^-12:56
cjwatsonstill true in xenial as well by the looks of things12:57
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didrocks@pilot in13:01
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cjwatsondoko,hallyn_: also, qemu's configure script has seccomp detection hardcoded to only work on x86 anyway ...13:51
dokocjwatson, I'll have a look on Monday13:59
mvodoko: will you (or anyone else) hate me if I upload http://paste.ubuntu.com/13526521/ ? i.e. add UBUNTU_CODENAME to /etc/os-release?14:02
dokomvo, hmm, maybe we could coordinate with Debian to use the same name for this var? isn't that owned by systemd maintainers/ pitti?14:03
dokomvo, will you merge apt?14:04
ogra_into snappy !14:04
juliankMaybe delay the  APT merge for ~24 hours, we still discover issues in reverse dependencies.14:05
mvodoko: are you trying to make a deal with me? like "you can have UBUNTU_CODENAME= if you merge apt" ;)?14:05
mvodoko: but yeah, I have a merge ready14:05
mvodoko: https://launchpad.net/~mvo/+archive/ubuntu/apt-xenial has it mostly prepared, its now a bit dated because of $OMG (as juliank said)14:05
juliankmvo: You can also sync libept 1.1+nmu2 as soon as it is in unstable14:06
juliankWell, with the rest of the APT stuff14:06
mvodoko: but yeah, I can wait for pitti and his opinion on http://paste.ubuntu.com/13526521/14:07
dokomvo: well, I'd like to see something more like DISTRO_CODENAME14:07
ogra_cat pics ?14:07
juliankmaybe DISTRO_SHORT_CODENAME or something14:07
mvodoko: I think that would make sense, however the freedesktop spec recommends prefixing with $distro if its not an official key. but then… it does make sense14:07
pittimvo: seems okay, but you can't rely on it in earlier releases, so for the time being we'd still need an lsb_release -sc fallback14:08
pittimvo: long-term that seems fine, though14:08
ogra_mvo, we might also wnat a snappy specific key too ... currently there is no easy way to find you are in a snappy system14:08
pittiyes, DISTRO_SHORT_CODENAME should rather be added to the spec itself first (certainly preferrable)14:08
ogra_(iirc there was a bug open for that)14:08
pittiogra_: `which snappy` or so? which bears the question, what a "snappy system" actually is14:09
ogra_pitti, a system totally without dpkg :)14:09
pittisnappy installed? dpkg not installed? classic env on snappy? snappy env on classic? etc.14:10
ogra_pitti, mvo bug 148108614:11
ubottubug 1481086 in Snappy "Need API/cli method to know if "is_snappy"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148108614:11
ogra_yeah, that would be fine14:12
juliankYou could also try upstreaming DISTRO_PACKAGE_TYPE={deb,rpm,snappy,...}14:14
juliankor something like that14:14
juliankMaybe someone has a use for that14:15
pittiogra_: so, Fedora? :-)14:15
pittinah, this is too convoluted14:15
pittithere's no reason in principle why you couldn't have more than one14:16
pittiif you want to use dpkg or snappy, check for dpkg or snappy, let's not try to do abstractions where they don't make much sense14:16
xnoxmvo, there is a new codename things in os-release no?!14:16
mvoxnox: since when? do you have a pointer?14:17
mvoxnox: and WELCOME BACK, really good to see you14:17
xnoxwell. i think i mixed it up a little.14:17
xnoxthere is new VARIANT= and VARIANT_ID= which fedora uses for desktop/server et.al. and i guess for us maps to "desktop/kubuntu/xubuntu/etc."14:18
xnoxand there is also CPE_NAME=14:18
juliankWell, if you wanted VARIANT, you could not have it in base-files anymore14:18
xnoxexample is given as "CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:fedoraproject:fedora:17"" but i don't know if we want that.14:18
ogra_xnox, yeah, that is why i mentioned VARIAND and VARIANT_ID in treh bug14:18
ogra_seems sabdfl didnt like that though14:19
ogra_wanting something stronger14:19
xnoxmvo, i'd vote to use VARIANT='Xenial Xerus' and VARIANT_ID=xenial14:19
juliankDon't do that14:19
juliankMaybe the best option is actually to introduce DISTRO_CODENAME and DISTRO_PRETTY_CODENAME14:20
xnoxCODENAME= & CODENAME_ID sounds good to me.14:21
juliankThat'd work too14:21
xnoxmvo, do you need it in /etc/os-release? we already have14:21
xnoxDISTRIB_CODENAME=wily in /etc/lsb-release14:21
ogra_xnox, lsb-release depnds on python14:21
ogra_long term we want to dorop that from the snappy image14:22
juliankIs the file there too?14:22
juliankWhy not move that to base-files?14:22
ogra_os-release is in base-files14:22
xnoxthe file is there.... it's not meant to be parsed directly, however in snappy case i don't see why not =)14:22
ogra_xnox, why would we, os-release is a req. od systemd anyway14:23
xnoxogra_, fyi /etc/lsb-release file is in base-files and always has been.14:23
ogra_so no need for lsb-release at all14:23
ogra_oh, thanks14:23
* ogra_ wasnt sure where it actually comes from 14:23
juliankogra_: It at least seems like a good workaround until it's in os-release, and usable on old releases too14:24
xnoxi'm not talking about lsb-release package, or lsb_release programme =)14:24
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xnoxjpds, are you planning to merge strongswan? debian is at 5.3.4-1 and we are at 5.1.2-0ubuntu714:32
LocutusOfBorg1Unit193, https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-virtualbox/virtualbox.git/commit/?id=328a07c9e74d831a64f5f95294ac020a23c3296615:02
LocutusOfBorg1the problem is that it doesn't work15:02
LocutusOfBorg1also lintian complains... I had to revert the change, but if you have a trick I'll be happy to apply it15:03
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caribouwhat would be a good way to debug ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends} expansion ?15:15
caribouLP: #1506550 is caused by a different expansion b/w Debian & Ubuntu15:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1506550 in quassel (Ubuntu) "quassel can't play audio notifications in wily" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150655015:16
LocutusOfBorg1thanks didrocks  :)15:26
didrocksLocutusOfBorg1: yw, thanks to you ;)15:27
LocutusOfBorg1I really hope next time to use requestsync pbuilder ;)15:27
LocutusOfBorg1mapreri, ^^^ :D15:27
didrocksLocutusOfBorg1: that would be great, indeed!15:28
hallyn_cjwatson: hm, yeah, that should be fixed upstream15:44
hallyn_(qemu, seccomp detection in configure)15:48
LocutusOfBorg1mvo, what about an apt plain sync?15:57
mddubsHi all, anyone online who's contributed to the codebase before?16:00
brendandmddubs, just a few of us :)16:03
brendandmddubs, do you have a question, please feel free to ask it16:03
mddubsOK thanks :)16:04
mddubsI want the alt-tab switcher to always appear in my center primary monitor, or all monitors.  I can't get used to it always moving around depending on where the mouse is.16:06
mddubsI've searched pretty extensively and don't think there's currently a way to resolve this, so I thought over the holidays I'd attempt to contribute that.  I have 10 years open-source web development experience and I'd really like to try committing something small to a large project like this.16:07
mddubsSo I'm looking for a little direction, I realize Ubuntu itself might not be the place to make the change.  Unity?  Compiz?  Any advice would be appreciated.16:08
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* dholbach hugs didrocks16:10
mvoLocutusOfBorg1: we still have a small delta, I hope I can kill that but right now it still exists16:12
* didrocks hugs dholbach back16:12
seb128didrocks, good job! ;-)16:15
mvoLocutusOfBorg1: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/apt/apt.git/tree/debian/changelog?h=ubuntu/master has the details, not much left to merge upstream16:16
LocutusOfBorg1indeed, I looked at the current apt in xenial (the delta)16:17
LocutusOfBorg1and it was "droppable" to me16:17
LocutusOfBorg1I didn't think about a new delta lol16:17
LocutusOfBorg1I really like the new apt16:17
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brendandmddubs2, i'm pretty sure that can be set16:54
brendandmddubs2, ah you said the alt-tab switcher16:54
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lamontseb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13529194/ is why I care about ibus17:56
seb128but I would expect you to use a qwerty keybord and no im?17:57
seb128or is ibus used even for non-im users?17:57
lamontseb128: I think it is... dunno. my keyboard lang choices in the pull down are "English"17:58
seb128lamont, is ibus active? does intellij works if you kill ibus-daemon?17:59
seb128lamont, anyway happyaron said he has the merge ready and he would upload this w.e17:59
lamontpycharm .18:01
lamontlog4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger (io.netty.util.internal.logging.InternalLoggerFactory).18:01
lamontlog4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.18:01
lamontlog4j:WARN See http://logging.apache.org/log4j/1.2/faq.html#noconfig for more info.18:01
lamont[  17554]   WARN - ConfigurableExtensionPointUtil - ignore deprecated groupId: editor for id: editor.preferences.import18:01
lamontnow it just locks up without the intellij errors... I thin kwe can call this progress18:01
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Unit193LocutusOfBorg1: It's a nice start, but yeah it usually needs a few args, for example the init script I'm using sources /etc/default/virtualbox, where you need to set the user to that which uses virtualbox.  You can also set host there, which is needed if, say phpvirtualbox is on a different host on the network.20:06
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slangasek@pilot in23:04
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LocutusOfBorg1Unit193, can you please push the changes on virtualbox.git repo?23:28

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