| madd0g37 | hi all | 04:20 |
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| rritoch | Problem solved, I needed to delete ~/.local/share/kscreen . This bug was apparently already reported https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343674 | 05:52 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 343674 in general "Plasma is brought down by libqxcb segfaults with the screen locked & switched off" [Grave,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] | 05:52 |
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| MichaelP | Just upgraded plasma 5.4.2 to 5.4.3 now where can i find Qt 5.5.1 ? | 06:34 |
| MichaelP | Never mind found it ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/backup-qt551 | 06:38 |
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| nolsen | Is it normal for the kubuntu installation to take a long time on doing the next time? | 08:45 |
| nolsen | next step* | 08:45 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:38 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:01 |
| BluesKaj | Hi sick_rimmit`, hazamonzo | 12:02 |
| Odur | Hi BluesKaj | 12:06 |
| BluesKaj | Hi Odur | 12:07 |
| hazamonzo | BluesKaj: Hey there! | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | 0/ | 12:15 |
| k819k | Hi , i was trying to install minimal version of KDE (kde-plasma-desktop as described here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) but i get Unable to locate package kde-plasma-desktop.How do I install this? | 13:28 |
| h9xnotebook | hello | 13:33 |
| h9xnotebook | can any one help me | 13:33 |
| BluesKaj | no instant gratifiaction here | 13:36 |
| reaper_x | hello everyone :) | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | hi reaper_x | 14:41 |
| rly | I don't have any window decoration for some reason. How can I enable those? It's as if plasma just doesn't work. | 14:55 |
| Grandson | hello world, maybe you could lend a hand. Im looking for a distro for grandma, she's coming from XP. She's the furthest from computer savvy. After a few environments I abandoned the idea of pre-builds and settled on wmii with Arch Linux, and this time around likely dwb. I have zero experience with a KDE environment, but understand the difficulty for ludites switching and the many differences between OSs. Would you recommend Ku | 15:01 |
| rly | Grandson: Debian Stable with XFCE4 preconfigured or Mac OS X. | 15:02 |
| rly | Grandson: or just stay with Windows, as she is old and all. | 15:02 |
| rly | Grandson: "KDE" is way too unstable for my taste to be left alone with non-technical people. | 15:03 |
| rly | (Gnome is just an abonimation) | 15:03 |
| Grandson | My general thought is something that auto updates and is not a massive security risk... I think I actually upgraded it to XP from ME she was using for years. I wasnt sure, but I did think KDE may be too technical, I know that Gnome is a switchers nightmare and she didnt like my description of it off the top. I also find gnome now to be a bit resource heavy | 15:05 |
| Grandson | Doesnt help that her computer is worse off than the shitty Vaio netbook I turned into a little powerhouse. I love grandma, but not enough to build a custom environment > v < | 15:06 |
| rly | Grandson: one other piece of advice: do not change the desktop every few years. | 15:07 |
| rly | Grandson: they generally hate that. | 15:07 |
| rly | Grandson: or just buy an ipad. | 15:07 |
| Grandson | Lmao yea, she didnt notice with XP other than it was faster and crashed less :D | 15:07 |
| rly | Grandson: it's not like they want to use more features than that. | 15:07 |
| Grandson | Yea shes got a lenovo, but damned if I can convince her to do anything more than solitaire on it | 15:08 |
| rly | Grandson: old people love those Apple devices. | 15:08 |
| rly | Grandson: see? More arguments to not give her a real computer. | 15:08 |
| rly | Grandson: she is just a consumer and perhaps writes an e-mail. | 15:08 |
| rly | Grandson: or Skypes, etc. | 15:08 |
| rly | Grandson: old people don't care about the standard shell or whether you can install Cygwin ;) | 15:09 |
| rly | They just want to *use* the device. | 15:09 |
| rly | They don't generally know that a machine comes out of the store in a pretty useless state without any configuration. | 15:10 |
| Grandson | lol Yea thats about it, email, and copious online purchases, of which when I walk by I still have to tell her to use firefox equiped with HTTPS everywhere. Ive been thinking about grabbing one of those monocle styled restrictive OSs the forces everything on her, a premise of computer nowadays I very much opposed but for her pushed updates would be a good thing. Id grab windows 10 if her computer would support it, but Im not usre | 15:12 |
| Grandson | I don't know irc too well, so apologies for bad format rly. Thanks for the info | 15:18 |
| MichaelP | How do i stop 15.10 from annoying me with popping up fglrx driver ready to install ? | 16:25 |
| rly | MichaelP: install an operating system with better configuration options, like NixOS. | 16:26 |
| rly | MichaelP: or if that's not what you wanted to hear, find the pid of the window. | 16:26 |
| rly | MichaelP: then find the package name via apt-file. | 16:26 |
| MichaelP | rly: i am on NixoS Kubuntu 15.10 | 16:27 |
| rly | MichaelP: that makes no sense. | 16:27 |
| rly | MichaelP: then uninstall that package. | 16:27 |
| rly | MichaelP: NixOS is the name of an operating system, like Ubuntu also is. | 16:27 |
| rly | MichaelP: in my experience all the addon Ubuntu crap is well... crap. | 16:28 |
| MichaelP | Ubuntu is the worst... Everything built off it is better | 16:28 |
| rly | MichaelP: Debian is also better. | 16:29 |
| rly | MichaelP: but even Debian packagers make mistakes. | 16:29 |
| MichaelP | of course debian is | 16:29 |
| rly | MichaelP: I prefer to run a system with as little human involvement as possible. | 16:29 |
| rly | MichaelP: unless I know who those people actually are. | 16:29 |
| MichaelP | what package do i remove to stop thise notifications | 16:29 |
| rly | MichaelP: I gave you the instructions to do that. | 16:30 |
| rly | MichaelP: just Google until you understand what my instructions are. | 16:30 |
| rly | MichaelP: a machine would be able to understand these instructions in two decades. | 16:30 |
| rly | MichaelP:so, good luck. | 16:30 |
| MichaelP | Im use to arch for the last year... Just giving something else a shot | 16:30 |
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| odmen | vd | 17:43 |
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| gh0st1ng | hey guys, any way to get the front audio jack working togheter with the back audio jack? | 19:10 |
| Algot | Apologies. Long time absent. Recent Kubuntu 15.10 install. What is Meta Key? Win does not seem to work. | 19:18 |
| Algot | Want to be able to do accents easily and it used to work for me in older Kubuntu versions. | 19:19 |
| lordievader | Meta is the Windows key, indeed. | 19:19 |
| lordievader | The compose key is disabled by default, iirc. | 19:20 |
| Algot | :lordievader thank you. I tracked it down in system settings. I'm back in business. | 19:26 |
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| nolsen | I keep having a problem with KDE, it keeps crashing with a segfault error, for plasma and some other thing that I forgot. | 20:37 |
| nolsen | and the slow login. | 20:41 |
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| zleap | anyone here, | 21:30 |
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| clivejo | hi zleap | 21:52 |
| zleap | hi | 21:52 |
| clivejo | how are you? | 21:52 |
| zleap | i am just seeting if someoe can help jubo2 with the temp / fan control issues | 21:52 |
| zleap | clivejo: i am good thanks | 21:52 |
| xixor | awwww yeah, wassup nerds | 21:53 |
| zleap | jubo2: says there is a problem with how kubuntu handles temperature sensing and fan control, as in the cpu overheats | 21:53 |
| xixor | is there a default way to launch dolphin with a keyboard shortcut? Similar to windows+E in windows? | 21:54 |
| clivejo | jubo2 seems to be having a lot of issues with Kubuntu | 21:55 |
| clivejo | xixor: you could probably configure a shortcut for it | 21:57 |
| xixor | clivejo: yes, I do this every time I install kubuntu. Just seems like one of the useability things that should be default. The whole 'everything under the sun' is configuration gets tiresome the 40th time you do things | 21:57 |
| clivejo | System Settings > Shortcuts | 21:58 |
| xixor | alright, next question, how to reset kde/plasma settings? the old mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old no longer seems to work? | 22:00 |
| valorie | xixor: I wasn't here, can you say again what is the problem? | 22:03 |
| xixor | valorie: sup | 22:04 |
| xixor | valorie: no problem really | 22:04 |
| valorie | I couldn't connect to freenode for a couple of days on my bnc | 22:04 |
| valorie | so i"m here without it | 22:04 |
| xixor | bnc? | 22:04 |
| valorie | and no backlog | 22:04 |
| valorie | it's a type of bouncer -- I connect to it; it connects to freenode | 22:05 |
| clivejo | valorie: is there a way to pipe the install with a config file to setup Kubuntu with a certain config? | 22:05 |
| valorie | only it wasn't | 22:05 |
| valorie | hmmm | 22:05 |
| clivejo | I know Ive heard of sys admins in uni's doing something like that | 22:05 |
| valorie | we set the defaults | 22:05 |
| valorie | but I think that is in kubuntu-settings or so | 22:05 |
| clivejo | xixor would like a default shortkey to launch dolphin | 22:06 |
| lordievader | clivejo: Suppose you could do that if you have a puppet infrastucture. | 22:06 |
| valorie | well, there is a way to roll your own ISO | 22:06 |
| valorie | !custom iso | 22:06 |
| valorie | !iso | 22:06 |
| ubottu | To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. | 22:06 |
| valorie | pff | 22:06 |
| lordievader | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 22:06 |
| valorie | that's it, thanks lordievader | 22:07 |
| lordievader | ;) Got it among my favorites. Came in handy when I messed with netboot images. | 22:07 |
| clivejo | he also asked "how to reset kde/plasma settings? the old mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old no longer seems to work?" | 22:07 |
| clivejo | I just tend to create a new account :/ | 22:07 |
| valorie | ah, they are now in ~/.config or ~/.local | 22:07 |
| xixor | .config seems to have a ton of settings | 22:08 |
| valorie | best to try to find the actual file and mv only that one | 22:08 |
| valorie | yes, it's default and we now follow it | 22:08 |
| xixor | so does one then pick and choose the particular file(s) that correspond to plasma/kde? | 22:08 |
| clivejo | xixor: is there something broken? | 22:08 |
| valorie | same with .local | 22:08 |
| xixor | clivejo: I'm interested in experiencing virgin kubuntu 15.10, which I just upgraded to, see what the raw, unaltered user experience is like | 22:09 |
| xixor | I guess I could just make a new user and login | 22:09 |
| valorie | that's the easiest, yeah | 22:10 |
| clivejo | Id create a new user | 22:10 |
| xixor | so, for my own user, my 2 year old son has had his way with this machine quite severely, and icons are all over the place, the taskbar is all messed up for example | 22:11 |
| xixor | so if I want to just reset kwin/plasma/kde settings only, I have to selectively identify the dozen or so files and directories in .config? | 22:11 |
| valorie | in general, yes | 22:12 |
| valorie | sometimes you can even just edit them | 22:12 |
| valorie | usually just text files | 22:12 |
| valorie | and surprisingly interesting and boring simultaneously | 22:13 |
| xixor | so, if for an existing user, if you wanted to start with a clean/wiped kde/plasma, there is no real way? | 22:13 |
| clivejo | that would be a question for the plasma channel I reckon | 22:14 |
| xixor | my comment about dolphin is just that, some level of standardization is useful. Gaming on PCs got generally a lot better once every game settled on wasd+mouse, cntrl+jump,space activate, mouse look/shoot rather than inventing their own custom keyboard mappings | 22:17 |
| valorie | sure, although it would be good to do that at the KDE level | 22:18 |
| xixor | A prime example of this is alt+tab | 22:18 |
| valorie | rather than just Kub. | 22:18 |
| xixor | or meta+tab | 22:19 |
| xixor | sure, alt+tab, meta+tab, cntrl+tab and shift+tab behaviour are all completely customizable. But rational defaults have been established to follow what almost everyone uses | 22:20 |
| xixor | imagine if every kde user had to go settings->shortcuts to configur alt+tab keyboard shortcuts on every kde/kubuntu installation | 22:20 |
| nolsen | I keep having a problem with KDE, it keeps crashing with a segfault error, for plasma and some other thing that I forgot. | 22:21 |
| nolsen | and the slow login. | 22:21 |
| clivejo | my main "short code is ALT+SPACE# | 22:23 |
| clivejo | that gives me access to everything I want | 22:23 |
| xixor | cmd+space triggers spotlight in osx, so there is cross-platform standardization there as well | 22:24 |
| clivejo | Alt + Space then Do gets me doplhin | 22:24 |
| xixor | cmd/alt+space is becoming the universal standard for "search for shit" | 22:25 |
| clivejo | very handy :) | 22:25 |
| xixor | only problem is it requires two hands to do quickly | 22:25 |
| clivejo | my keyboard it just takes two fingers | 22:26 |
| clivejo | are you a one finger typer? | 22:26 |
| xixor | if you have one hand on the mouse for instance, on a qwerty keyboard, alt+space d,o requires quite a bit of movement | 22:26 |
| xixor | but anyhoo, you have reaffirmed my experiences of discussing useability issues of linux with linux users | 22:28 |
| xixor | cheers | 22:28 |
| nolsen | I don't see it as good as just pulling up start menu and start typing | 22:30 |
| nolsen | Maybe because I'm used to searching shit through a start menu (windows) | 22:30 |
| nolsen | wtf, plasmashell was using a chunk of my RAM, killing it frees about a GB of RAM. | 22:32 |
| valorie | best is krunner: alt+space, start typing | 22:33 |
| valorie | no mousing needed | 22:33 |
| nolsen | But is anyone having sigterm problems related with plasmashell? | 22:33 |
| clivejo | I wonder will Mycroft actually deliver | 22:33 |
| nolsen | Because randomly it crashes with a sigterm error. | 22:34 |
| clivejo | nolsen: not I | 22:36 |
| valorie | me either -- no crashes of plasma for .... 18 months or so | 22:37 |
| nolsen | What version you using? | 22:37 |
| valorie | used to crash frequently | 22:37 |
| nolsen | How did you fix it? | 22:37 |
| valorie | 15.10 on this box, Xenial on my travel laptop | 22:37 |
| nolsen | Now I have another problem, it's using a lot of RAM. | 22:37 |
| valorie | very early 16.04 | 22:38 |
| valorie | nolsen: update, update, update | 22:38 |
| nolsen | I have 5.4.3 | 22:38 |
| nolsen | plasmashell 5.4.3 | 22:38 |
| nolsen | valorie: It's the latest according to APT | 22:38 |
| valorie | 22:40 | |
| valorie | $ plasmashell --version | 22:40 |
| valorie | plasmashell 5.4.3 | 22:40 |
| valorie | often it isn't plasma causing the crash, but drivers | 22:40 |
| bprompt | *cough* | 22:41 |
| bprompt | nolsen: methinks your issue, as valorie pointed out, is a matter of the drivers shipped, and your hardware compatibility | 22:42 |
| nolsen | Well, I thought I installed flgrx or whatever it's called for my AMD APU | 22:42 |
| nolsen | Does it not have good support with AMD? | 22:45 |
| nolsen | s/flgrx/fglrx | 22:45 |
| bprompt | dunno... on the amd drivers myself, for one I run an intel chipset and 12.04, and runs smooth :) | 22:46 |
| valorie | I also have intel | 22:48 |
| Algot | /part | 23:18 |
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| BanHammo_ | Hello. My NVidia doesn't recognize the CRT i connected to it via a DVI/D-Sub connector | 23:40 |
| BanHammo_ | and only suggests 640x480 mode for it | 23:41 |
| BanHammo_ | Can I solve this somehow? | 23:41 |
| valorie | hmmm, doesn't sound like a KDE or Kubuntu problem... | 23:43 |
| valorie | np, you left before an answer | 23:43 |
| valorie | whatevs | 23:43 |
| bprompt | yet another drive-by | 23:46 |
| bprompt | hehehe | 23:46 |
| clivejo | probably expected an answer yesterday | 23:46 |
| bprompt | well, he/she's over at #ubuntu now =) | 23:47 |
| finetundra | I don't think CRT's get above that do they? | 23:47 |
| bprompt | CRT monitors? I think they have even bigger resolutions than flatscreens | 23:48 |
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