[02:27] <pmatulis> stokachu: ping?
[02:28] <pmatulis> stokachu: hey. with the openstack-installer, where does the juju bootstrap server end up? i can't find it anywhere :)
[02:56] <stokachu> pmatulis: single is in a container
[03:03] <pmatulis> stokachu: i looked at the containers that got built on the node that the installer grabbed. i don't see a ~/.juju anywhere
[03:07] <pmatulis> i want to be able to do 'juju ssh landscape-server/0'
[09:37] <eatingthenight> any way that i can mount a new drive to something like /. say / is currently a 8GB volume and I want to mount a 500GB volume on / without losing any data or having to reboot
[09:37] <bekks> You cant.
[09:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:39] <lordievader> eatingthenight: Do you use LVM?
[09:40] <eatingthenight> lordievader: let me check... just started at a new job and am really not liking how the ops guys have these servers setup
[09:40] <bekks> 11"not really liking" :D
[09:41] <lordievader> That is inevitable :P
[09:41] <bekks> Thats not a valuable argument for changing things in a production environment :)
[09:41] <bekks> On a server, 8GB / is most likely more than enough :)
[09:42] <lordievader> Agreed.
[09:43] <eatingthenight> i'm not going to argue with them it's just not how i have set them up in the past
[09:43] <bekks> Yes. And maybe your way of setting up servers doesnt match the requirements of your new job.
[09:44] <lordievader> Anyhow, to more or less answer your question. If you do not use lvm your idea is (likely) not going to work.
[09:44] <bekks> That is what I meant with "not really liking" is not a justification for anything else but a personal opinion.
[09:46] <eatingthenight> ok so instead of trying to do the above i'll give an example. I am using docker and when pulling down containers i'll eat up the 8GB provided for / fast. Would you instead partition another drive and make a storage volume and configure docker in the instance to use that storage volume?
[09:47] <lordievader> I'll just compare it to our lxc setup. Each lxc container has its own logical volume.
[09:48] <bekks> eatingthenight: I'm not using partitions for a decade now, I am using LVM.
[09:49] <bekks> And I am using setups not requiring insanely large / volumes.
[09:53] <eatingthenight> is it common to setup the root mount as 'none on / type tmpfs'
[09:54] <bekks> Depends on the setup.
[09:56] <eatingthenight> hmm guess i'm really not sure how mounting with a virtual filesystem all works
[09:56] <eatingthenight> i'll have to read up
[09:56] <disposable> eatingthenight: look up overlayfs and have a look here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/109413/how-do-i-use-overlayfs
[09:56] <bekks> eatingthenight: Maybe you should investigate the entire setup of your production servers before changing it.
[09:57] <eatingthenight> bekks: i mean i am i haven't changed everything yet. but we have virtual 0 docs on the setup
[09:57] <lordievader> Investigate why things are set up the way they are.
[09:57] <disposable> bekks: also, what bekks said. (i've personally never had more than 4GB for /)
[09:57] <eatingthenight> i read all the provided ones already
[12:34] <bekks> eatingthenight: Well, then you have to investigate how things are setup.
[12:35] <bekks> eatingthenight: Forget the docs of your admin, grab a ssh shell and start investigating things.
[15:31] <sexywoodenspoon> Afternoon all! Postfix question here- Looking for a way to log all email addresses that have received an email. At the moment I've got a small postfix server with forwarding set up (no mailboxes). Got a wildcard set up to forward all mail to one address for a domain and it'd be really cool if I could log those email addresses that receive an email to a file... if that's possible. Anyone got any id
[15:31] <sexywoodenspoon> eas?
[15:43] <mrbrdo> hey guys. I have a /64 block of IPv6s and want to bind all of them to my ubuntu server. I only found instructions on how to add specific IPs but not how to add the whole range. Since these are billions of IPs, is there a way to add the whole range instead of individual IPs? Could someone point me in the right direction?
[17:14] <JuanDaugherty> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+question/259165 anybody know how to deal with that?
[17:14] <JuanDaugherty> (aside from the obvious: build the module myself and adjust the config manually)
[17:22] <JuanDaugherty> wow it looks like there's nothing ubuntu for building apache modules
[17:22] <JuanDaugherty> just a branded apache-dev with nuthin to go with it
[17:32] <maxb> JuanDaugherty: I was curious, so I looked around. Looks like imagemap was demoted from the 'most' set to the 'never build unless explicitly requested' set during 2.3 development
[17:32] <JuanDaugherty> does ubuntu have anything specific to it for building apache modules?
[17:33] <JuanDaugherty> (ie. specific to ubuntu)
[17:34] <maxb> Seems unlikely, the Ubuntu packages aren't modified much compared to Debian
[17:34] <JuanDaugherty> what one expects is that apache2-dev would be coordinated with the apache usage in the distro
[17:34] <JuanDaugherty> acknowledged
[17:35] <maxb> I don't understand what you mean about 'coordinated'. There is an apache2-dev package and it contains apxs, so..... what?
[17:40] <JuanDaugherty> ok, it's been a few years since I build apache modules
[17:41] <JuanDaugherty> coordinated basically means documentation and fitting the thing within ubuntus offerings
[17:41] <JuanDaugherty> *ubuntu's
[17:42] <JuanDaugherty> *built
[17:44] <quantic> JuanDaugherty: the apache2-dev package contains the dev headers and apxs2 binary. Also has the debhelper stuff. What else are you expecting to be there?
[17:45] <JuanDaugherty> well I'm familiar with the apache build env
[17:46] <JuanDaugherty> if the concept of ubuntu coordination with the pkgs it redistributes is too much, peccavi
[17:46] <JuanDaugherty> and nvm
[17:47] <quantic> JuanDaugherty: The problem isn't necessarily the concept, it's how you're communicating it.
[17:47] <JuanDaugherty> ah, good
[17:47] <quantic> JuanDaugherty: But hey, if you want to be snarky instead of explain, that's your right, of course.
[17:48] <JuanDaugherty> well conceptual clarity is paramount
[17:48] <JuanDaugherty> clarity/cogency
[17:49] <maxb> I really have no idea what you are wanting right now, you seem to have veered off into a deeply abstract discussion
[17:50] <JuanDaugherty> no worries
[17:50] <quantic> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[17:52] <JuanDaugherty> but here's another way of putting it
[17:53] <JuanDaugherty> should I on the base of my knowledge of apache internals and by virtue of having installed the appropriate pkgs in synaptic
[17:53] <JuanDaugherty> be able to get the source for the module, move it into a file structure of the pkg(s) or find that it was included with one
[17:54] <JuanDaugherty> and then build and move the move the module to the working config on the same machine in a straightforward way?
[17:55] <JuanDaugherty> s/move the//
[17:55] <JuanDaugherty> alternatively
[17:55] <maxb> If you happened to be an expert in the use of apxs, you could probably manage it
[17:55] <maxb> Otherwise, probably not
[17:56] <JuanDaugherty> is there any documentation for the use of the apache2-dev module or for building apache modules which ubuntu isn't distributing?
[17:57] <JuanDaugherty> so as I say clarity and cogency of concepts is paramount
[17:57] <JuanDaugherty> the other is that emotional intelligence bullshit
[17:58] <maxb> You've gone back to abstract-meaningless land
[17:58] <JuanDaugherty> as part of my survey may I ask if you are a native speaker of English?
[17:58] <maxb> As for documentation, you're working with an area of complexity where you'd want to look at Apache httpd upstream documentation rather than Ubuntu/Debian stuff, I think
[17:59] <maxb> I am a native speaker of English
[17:59] <JuanDaugherty> or if you are in the right end of the political spectrum in whatever country you're from?
[18:00] <maxb> I am the kind who mostly ignores politics entirely
[18:00] <JuanDaugherty> you vote tory?
[18:01] <JuanDaugherty> or not at all?
[18:01]  * JuanDaugherty checks UK turnout rates.
[18:01] <JuanDaugherty> about same as here (US)
[18:02] <JuanDaugherty> so that's the crisis of democracy
[18:03] <JuanDaugherty> 65% turnout with the winner seldom getting more than 50% of that
[18:03] <JuanDaugherty> which would be OK if people were satisified and that's why they didn't bother to vote
[19:26] <MACscr> is it just me or do none of the current NFS server/client tutorials for Ubuntu have detailed iptables info? Most of the tutorials that i have found that include that info are for rhel/centos and obviously some of the settings paths are different where some of those ports are set
[20:38] <JuanDaugherty> ha looks like the same thing can be done with cgi
[22:10] <JuanDaugherty> and forgot about client side