[00:28] <daftykins> yay done at last :P
[00:29] <penguin42> hehe
[00:31] <daftykins> didn't take that long naturally, just #ubuntu support delays me :>
[00:31] <daftykins> midnight of monday morning is the new time \o/
[01:33] <wizzkidd> penguin42: hi, are you still around? i just managed to boot from my usb at last. lol
[01:33] <penguin42> heyhey
[01:34] <penguin42> wizzkidd: However back a few hours ago you thought you'd just lost two or three files and that's an easy fix, but then we figured out that everything was segfaulting left and right
[01:34] <wizzkidd> penguin42: indeed, so I guess the path I need to go down, and do with some assistance with is, reinstalling over the top? is that possible?
[01:35] <penguin42> wizzkidd: Why over-the-top rather than nuke and start from clean?
[01:35] <wizzkidd> penguin42: tbh I have installed and configured so much, and really didnt want to start from fresh :/
[01:35] <daftykins> wizzkidd: long drive out to it, was it? :(
[01:36] <penguin42> wizzkidd: That might be tricky unless you've got /home on a separate partition and it's still risky
[01:36] <wizzkidd> penguin42: i have a backup of home :)
[01:36] <penguin42> wizzkidd: OK, so nuke it and reinstall home
[01:37] <wizzkidd> *gulp*
[01:44] <wizzkidd> a question a little off track... i've previously installed xrdp and xfce onto ubuntu server 15.10 and can rdp from my windows machine to the serverf fine.  In the past I made sure that I had installed the "ubuntu-desktop" package as a pre-req assuming this is probably vital (or contains vital packages) for the xrdp to work.  Does anyone know if "ubuntu-desktop" is required for xrdp to work (bearing in mind that I use xrdp with t
[01:45] <daftykins> that's a bit of a shotgun approach
[01:46] <daftykins> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that contains all the cruft like libre-office and so on
[01:46] <daftykins> but you have a remotely hosted server and you're installing GUI components? i would not be doing that :)
[01:52] <wizzkidd> daftykins: its not remotely hosted, its my own physical machine, although i hardly physically use it, i tend to use web gui's and ssh as much as possible
[01:53] <daftykins> so when you said you couldn't reset it earlier, it was just in another room?
[01:54] <wizzkidd> daftykins: I was at work, so yeah.  I was asking in order to see if I could learn something new, as you do :)
[01:54] <wizzkidd> daftykins: i found it hard to lessen the amount of urgency in my voice(typing) lol
[01:56] <daftykins> experiment on non-vital systems XD
[01:56] <wizzkidd> daftykins: agreed!!
[01:57] <wizzkidd> daftykins: although we all learn from our mistakes.  I'm in the process of rebuilding the physical, but also rebuilding a VM too :)
[01:58] <daftykins> sounds like a plan, i nearly said if it were a VM there'd have been a method of control
[01:59] <wizzkidd> daftykins: If i screwed up again in the future, I'm hoping that with the VM, I can possibly V2P it which hopefully would speed up the rebuild process (should it ever need to be done AGAIN)
[02:00] <daftykins> that sounds pretty odd an approach to me
[02:00] <daftykins> run the services in a VM, snapshot prior to doing risky things
[02:00] <daftykins> or backup often :>
[02:01] <wizzkidd> daftykins: yes, of course I will snapshot as and when.  But im talking about a way to do DR on the physical server in the shortest time frame
[02:02] <wizzkidd> if the VM dies, thats no big deal cause I can roll back
[02:03] <daftykins> well if you really cared, you'd have a reliable disk setup with some redundancy
[02:06] <wizzkidd> i have zfs setup for raid0 and my backups save to that location
[02:06] <daftykins> RAID 0? you've got to be kidding
[02:07] <wizzkidd> sorry, RAID1
[02:07] <daftykins> i'm going to sleep now, DR has nothing to do with that setup :>
[02:07] <wizzkidd> ok
[10:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[13:10] <foobarry> brrrr
[16:00] <knightwise> hey peeps
[16:08] <zmoylan-pi> i think everyone is out looting, pillaging and christmas shopping
[16:09] <knightwise> lol
[16:09] <knightwise> its not even december yet !
[16:09] <knightwise> I did my (company) xmass shopping
[16:10] <knightwise> bought a surface pro 4
[16:10] <zmoylan-pi> the early looter gets no concussion :-P
[16:12] <knightwise> true. I'm shopping online this year
[16:12] <zmoylan-pi> try not to get burned sipping your cocoa :-)
[16:13] <knightwise> Been to Aachen today
[16:13] <knightwise> too crowded for my case
[16:13] <knightwise> my taste
[16:29] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:49] <knightwise> hey sebsebseb
[16:52] <sebsebseb> knightwise: seems can get mouse and keyboard working on Ubuntu phone via a device
[16:53] <knightwise> via what device ?
[16:55] <sebsebseb> knightwise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pur-e0eZR80
[16:55]  * sebsebseb is thinking of  buying an otg device now
[16:55] <sebsebseb> hub I should say
[16:58] <SuperEngineer> wow! I've always wanted to a device and device working on device via a device ;-)
[16:58] <SuperEngineer> to  ^ have
[17:00] <sebsebseb> SuperEngineer: yeah it's a way to have the mouse and keyboard working,  before the real convergence comes I guess
[17:00] <sebsebseb> hence needing to to use certain things
[20:50] <wizzkidd> hi i recently performed a reinstallation of ubuntu 15.10 over the top of my current 15.10 install which I was having problems with.  I'm just reinstalling some of the programs I had previously, however I think my previous OS had a newer kernel, uname -r shows me "4.2.0-040200-generic" but I think when I compile anything, it is using the currently installed kernel which is "4.2.0-18-generic".  Can anyone assist me out of this sti