[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:36] <clivejo> valorie: ping
[16:51] <sgclark> clivejo: I suspect valorie will still be asleep for some time yet.
[16:51] <clivejo> asleep?
[16:51] <clivejo> where is she?
[16:59] <sgclark> clivejo: we are both west coast US. But she stays up insanely late.
[17:21] <clivejo> now unstable
[17:21] <clivejo> what does that mean?!?
[17:22] <clivejo> sgclark: oh so its only morning for you now?
[17:22] <clivejo> I thought you guys were east coast, so only about 5 hours behind
[17:23] <sgclark> it is 920 am
[17:24] <clivejo> ah 8 hours behind
[20:53] <clivejo> sgclark: do you know why the i386 build of kdeconnect-plasma is failing in xenial?
[20:53] <clivejo> Buildlog - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/227923544/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-i386.kdeconnect-plasma_0.9%2Bgit20151129.1550%2B16.04-0_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:59] <sgclark> clivejo: at first glance you have a dependency problem. It looks like frameworks is your problem. I dunno where you are pulling them from. With that said, that is all I can say today. Sundays are my only day that I try to claim work free.
[21:01] <clivejo> I cant figure out why it builds in amd64, but not in i386
[21:02] <sgclark> i386 is much slower. sometime stuff fails because deps are not built yet. Make sure the ppa does not have i386 failed builds is where I would start
[21:02] <clivejo> its the KCI PPA's
[21:02] <sgclark> uhh yeah, then that is your problem.
[21:03] <sgclark> there is broken stuff in there atm.
[21:03] <sgclark> fixing it would likely fix your issue.
[21:03] <sgclark> I will work on that tomorrow, but not today. >.<
[21:04] <clivejo> the KCI has so many errors, I cant see where the problem is
[21:05] <sgclark> well I am staarting debian merges tomorrow, should clear it all up. But not till tomorrow... sorry
[21:05] <clivejo> ok
[21:55] <valorie> clivejo: I think I tested it all....
[21:55] <clivejo> 2.9.9?
[21:56] <valorie> yes
[21:56] <valorie> last night 
[21:56] <clivejo> any issues?
[21:56] <valorie> I told my issues in the PM
[21:57] <clivejo> I logged off
[21:57] <valorie> some of the components still have that weird "I can't save this" error
[21:57] <valorie> ah
[21:57] <valorie> 01:25] <valorie> so, same crap with saving in Words 2.9.9, but somehow I got it to save
[21:57] <valorie> [01:25] <valorie> what an icky bug that is
[21:57] <valorie> [01:32] <valorie> and open, and not automatically in lo either
[21:57] <valorie> [01:33] <valorie> perhaps I don't have LO installed?
[21:57] <valorie> [01:33] <valorie> yup, that's it
[21:57] <valorie> [01:42] <valorie> stage works, no problem saving, and oddly, I do have LO even though apt-cache policy says no....
[21:57] <valorie> [01:45] <valorie> sheets still doesn't save the text I added, but maybe I'm doing it wrong
[21:58] <valorie> [01:45] <valorie> even in sheets it doesn't show
[21:58] <valorie> [01:48] <valorie> author works, opens fine in lo
[21:58] <valorie> [01:51] <valorie> flow, lovely
[21:58] <valorie> [01:51] <valorie> imo 2.9.9 winz
[21:58] <valorie> [01:51] <valorie> niters
[21:58] <valorie> oh, forget about the silliness about not have LO installed
[21:58] <valorie> I'll talk to the Calligra devels and find out what that "no formatting" bug is about
[21:58] <clivejo> I dont have that
[21:58] <valorie> users should be prompted for what they need to do, IMO
[21:59] <valorie> I think I'm a bad tester in one way, since I never use office-type products
[21:59] <valorie> beyond text editing
[21:59] <valorie> otoh, I face what a new user would face
[21:59] <valorie> how do you test?
[22:00] <clivejo> by using it :P
[22:00] <valorie> I open each component, and try to make some file, usually by typing something
[22:00] <clivejo> I reply on Kontact
[22:00] <valorie> and then saving it
[22:00] <clivejo> rely
[22:00] <valorie> and then open that file
[22:01] <clivejo> the vivid build failed
[22:01] <valorie> well, kmail was my beloved
[22:01] <valorie> until sometime years ago when it would report that the mail was sent
[22:01] <valorie> but it wasn't
[22:05] <clivejo> valorie: in vivid, do you know why LibWps is missing?  <http://libwps.sourceforge.net/>  Microsoft Works Document Library required by the Words WPS import filter
[22:07] <valorie> no idea -- why is code on sourceforge?!
[22:07] <valorie> this ain't the 90s
[22:08] <clivejo> its a lib that calligra uses to open Microsoft rubbish
[22:10] <valorie> bizarre that one of their *libs* wouldn't be on kde infra
[22:10] <valorie> one must open MS stuff if one is to play in the Office space
[22:11] <clivejo> should I just build it without the import tool?
[22:11] <valorie> I would discuss with the callig folks
[22:12] <valorie> probably in #calligra
[22:12] <clivejo> not really their fault, just for some reason the tool isnt in vivid
[22:12] <clivejo> works fine in wily and xenial
[22:13] <valorie> well, they might be able to tell you why it has to be pulled from *sourceforge*
[22:17] <clivejo> !info libwps-doc
[22:32] <valorie> !info libwps-doc vivid
[22:32] <valorie> clivejo: ^^^
[22:34] <clivejo> !info libwps-dev vivid
[22:39] <clivejo> ah, needs package 'libwps-0.4'
[22:39] <clivejo> vivid is only 0.3