[02:53] <Canon> Hello all... I am trying to scan an external drive with rkhunter... and ideas
[03:18] <wfreeman> I have just installed kubuntu 15.10 and the system boots to a black desktop with a mouse cursor; no KDE panels, desktop, etc. are visible. How can I fix this?
[03:18] <wfreeman> I can run commands with alt-f2 but that's it,.
[03:34] <finetundra> wfreeman: What have you tried so far?
[03:43] <nolsen> What the hell.
[03:44] <nolsen>  welp, got to hardshutdown kubuntu again
[03:44] <nolsen> Because I can't even escape hexchat.
[03:44] <nolsen> oh, nvm. but my taskbar is gone xD
[03:47] <nolsen> My taskbar is ded: http://i.imgur.com/wJ4bpkI.png
[04:13] <finetundra> nolsen: ctrl+alt+f1, login, sudo poweroff, insert password
[05:36] <Canon> hello all
[05:37] <Canon> whats the package that minicom is in
[11:16] <lordievader> !info minicom
[11:16] <lordievader> Hmm, guess I'm a bit late.
[11:58] <benve> !list
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:49] <Guest53458> Hi, do anyone knows a openpgp help channel?
[13:12] <lordievader> I'm sure alis does.
[13:12] <lordievader> !alis
[13:53] <jubo2> hi
[13:53] <jubo2> I have a Lenovo X201 1st generation i5
[13:54] <jubo2> it overheats, a lot whenever I boot into Kubuntu
[13:54] <jubo2> 'sudo sensors-detect' show an Intel-made sensor unit that has been assigned to 'coretemp' driver
[13:55] <jubo2> With no load on CPU it goes to 80'ish and with load it goes to 90's till shutdown from temperature alarm trigger level reached
[13:56] <jubo2> Waits for someone to say "Just boot it to Windows if it works so fine there."
[14:00] <lordievader> How dusty is your machine?
[14:12] <jubo2> lordievader: I'm not very interested in that
[14:12] <jubo2> One of my key concerns is that the Intel-buit thermal sensor apprears to be lying
[14:13] <jubo2> that or something or someone is injecting voltage peaks or summ shit like that to the CPU
[14:13] <jubo2> Windows runs ~ 57C plus minus 2
[14:14] <jubo2> Kubuntu runs 85-90 plus minus 11C
[14:14] <jubo2> enough to force shutdown
[14:15] <jubo2> the peaks and valleys can be like 15-20C
[14:15] <jubo2> the shit doesn't make any sense or Intel Corporation hates me
[14:15] <lordievader> jubo2: It could explain why it reports 90 on idle...
[14:16] <jubo2> There are newer governors available for Sandy and Ivy Bridge and later
[14:17] <jubo2> Here instructions to install and activate Intel P-State governor for Sandy Bridge and later systems
[14:17] <jubo2> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/prevent-your-laptop-from-overheating.html
[14:19] <jubo2> I'm going to get 23nm litography system next
[14:19] <jubo2> one that supports 3 displays and 32GB RAM
[14:21] <jubo2> not that I'll ever need to put more than 16GB
[14:21] <lordievader> Bit offtopic.. don't you think?
[14:21] <jubo2> That runs 2 OS and bunch off apliance servers
[14:21] <jubo2> lordievader: Yea
[14:21] <jubo2> So
[14:21] <jubo2> I boot the system to windows because Kubuntu cannot handle something
[14:22] <lordievader> Does a live-cd have the same problem? Also which version of Kubuntu?
[14:22] <jubo2> Kubuntu15.10
[14:23] <jubo2> I have never installed Psensor in Live-CD but it has never shutdown from overheating
[14:23] <jubo2> Maybe I should
[14:24] <lordievader> What temperatures does the live cd report?
[14:24] <jubo2> I reboot the X201 to Live CD now
[14:28] <jubo2> now apt installing it
[14:28] <jubo2> ok. now Psensor started
[14:28] <lordievader> You don't need to give updates at every action ;)
[14:30] <jubo2> What? No action commentary by jubo-jubo required for channel comfort
[14:30] <lordievader> No, saves the both of us time.
[14:33] <jubo2> temperature is stable at 66C plusminus 2 degrees
[14:35] <jubo2> now 70C when I put some youtube playing
[14:36] <lordievader> Right, so your install does something that either really gets the temp up or, like you said, the reporting is wrong. How is the cpu utilization in your install?
[14:37] <jubo2> It appears to vary only 1C up or down now ~ 70C
[14:37] <jubo2> should I 'sudo apt install stress' ?
[14:39] <lordievader> For the live env? Sure would tell you more.
[14:39] <jubo2> 2 CPU hogs
[14:39] <jubo2> TEMP GOES UPPPP
[14:39] <lordievader> 2 cores no hyper threading?
[14:39] <jubo2> 2 cores 2 threads per core
[14:39] <jubo2> The fan controller is not doing it's job
[14:40] <jubo2> 4,000RPM
[14:40] <jubo2> and shutdown
[14:40] <lordievader> So why not --cpu 4? Anyhow that is besides the point. I'll ask my first question again, how dusty is the machine?
[14:41] <jubo2> not externally
[14:41] <jubo2> P-;
[14:41] <lordievader> ...
[14:42] <lordievader> How old is the laptop?
[14:42] <jubo2> 4 yrs
[14:42] <lordievader> Hmm, there is a chance the cooling paste hardened.
[14:42] <jubo2> I got cooling paste
[14:43] <jubo2> It is just very very complicated to get to the cooling fan
[14:43] <jubo2> you have to strip even the mainboard and the display before you can access it
[14:44] <lordievader> I know. So first make sure your machine is dust free. Get a can of compressed air and blow out the heatsink.
[14:50] <jubo2> lordievader: I got compressed air
[14:50] <jubo2> into the heatsink without removing it?
[14:50] <jubo2> machine on or off?
[14:51] <lordievader> Off, ofcourse.
[14:59] <jubo2> food time
[15:18] <jubo2> Finally figured how to operate the pressure air can
[15:25] <jubo2> It seems to be running cooler no
[15:26] <jubo2> *now
[15:26] <jubo2> has peaked at 78C moderate load
[15:35] <lordievader> Lots of dust came out?
[15:36] <clivejo> dust would cause over heating :/
[15:37] <jubo2> some dust came out
[17:25] <yotux> is there a way to get icons in kmymoney2?
[17:39] <yotux> anyone else having icon problems in 15.10
[17:53] <mparillo> I had icon problems on my favorites when I upgraded (I believe they moved or something), but not on a fresh install.
[17:55] <yotux> I have missing icons on the fav menu and in kmymoney,  when I change icon themes some icons come back
[17:56] <yotux> wondering if reseting the .kde folder would be useful
[18:56] <Draggin> Good evening! I've put this off for a long time, since I have this laptop and could go on with work, but I've severely messed up my desktop machine during an Ubuntu upgrade, and I'm not even sure where to start. I was running Kubuntu Utopic for a very long time and ifnally decided to upgrade to Vivid, but my machine is a little the worse for wear after doing so. It still boots, all services etc. work. I can log in from command line, but there seems to be
[18:56] <Draggin> an absolute tonne of broken dependencies and X doesn't start, no matter what. It's an old machine - Pentium IV, 2.4GHz with 2GB RAM and an old nVidia 6200 AGP card (which I suspect is where the issues started).
[18:57] <Draggin> Which logs do I start looking at?
[19:22] <lordievader> Wow, didn't think I'd ever see the 6200 again. What driver are you using for it?
[19:25] <Draggin> Haha! lordievader - I was using the nVidia 304 drivers, but I've been mucking around now trying to get the machine back up and running, so at the moment, I've purged nvidia
[19:25] <lordievader> I'm pretty sure that the closed source drivers dropped support for it a long time ago.
[19:25] <lordievader> Does a live cd work with it?
[19:27] <Draggin> Does a live CD work with the graphics card?
[19:28] <Draggin> Haven't actually tested recently... Let me see if I have one lying around nearby
[19:28] <clivejo> might have to use the nomodeset option
[19:29] <Draggin> But lordievader - it *was* quite a mission to get the graphics card up and running. I had to end up using a different driver to the one recommended by Ubuntu itself
[19:30] <lordievader> Oh, I bet. And even if you do get it working, you don't want to work with it...
[19:30] <Draggin> clivejo, I was using that
[19:30] <clivejo> sometimes upgrades lose it
[19:31] <clivejo> have you double checked its still being passed to the kernel?
[19:31] <Draggin> lordievader, at this point, I'm less concerned with getting the nVidia drivers up and running than just being able to boot into my machine normally again :) I'll worry about the drivers later.
[19:32] <Draggin> I figured I'd like to be able to get into Kubuntu properly again, then upgrade to the latest release
[19:32] <lordievader> That wasn't what I meant. It will be slow as heck :P
[19:32] <lordievader> Anyhow, with the nouveau driver you might have a chance.
[19:32] <Draggin> clivejo, not sure how to do that, but like I said, I've actually purged all nVidia stuff at the moment, but Nouveau isn't booting the system either.
[19:34] <Draggin> Well, believe it or not, I was actually using this machine for limited gaming o_O and it worked beautifully (on some games). But now the machine is close to being a brick. And I don't have enough external storage space to do a full backup and rerun a clean install, so I'd like to try and fix it
[19:35] <lordievader> Are the drive(s) Sata?
[19:35] <lordievader> If so, you can then just transfer them to a newer machine ;)
[19:36] <Draggin> Oh… The hard drive situation, yes... Need to fill you in on that, I think
[19:38] <yotux> I think he has old IDE drives
[19:39] <Draggin> Oh - something I should probably also mention (and an error that I've seen pop up here and there) is that I'm running this machine on a WD Blue Advanced Format 1TB drive using GPT (that's what it's called, right...? As in not MBR) Took me two days to read up about properly initialising, formatting and installing it, but it's worked beautifully ever since. Now, I seem to be getting error messages possibly relating to that
[19:40] <Draggin> I see messages about sda1 VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem, qnx4 no qnx4 filesystem (no root dir), ufs: you didn't specify the type of your ufs filesystem.
[19:43] <lordievader> Where do you see those messages?
[19:44] <Draggin> terminal
[19:46] <lordievader> Sure, but where? Reading logs, at boot, etc?
[19:48] <Draggin> No - it's being output to the screen during the process
[19:48] <lordievader> During what process?
[19:48] <Draggin> That's why I asked what logs and things I should be looking at - I have no idea where to start troubleshooting this mess
[19:48] <Draggin> lordievader, during an apt-get
[19:48] <lordievader> Wut? That is really strange...
[19:49] <lordievader> Good logs for this kind of things is the syslog, kern and dmesg logs.
[19:49] <Draggin> Oh - the other thing that happens (after getting rid of nVidia), when I boot, I see the kubuntu loader screen, but immediately afterwards, it gets stuck on a screen that just says "starting version 219" in the top left corner. Nothing else happening. I have to ctrl+alt+f1 to get to another tty to be able to log in to do anything
[19:50] <Draggin> Okay. lordievader - they're all in /var/log?
[19:51] <lordievader> Yes, that is where the logs go.
[19:52] <Draggin> I do see a sda3 re-mounted opts: errors=remount-ro message in the kern.log...
[19:53] <lordievader> Time to check your disks.
[19:54] <Draggin> That's fsck, right...?
[19:57] <lordievader> Yes. But you likely need a live-cd for it. Or at least I guess the root-fs is on sda3.
[19:58] <Draggin> Can confirm that - the root filesystem is on sda3 according to fstab
[19:58] <Draggin> Where can I see *what* errors caused it to be remounted as RO
[20:00] <lordievader> A read/write error...
[20:00] <Draggin> lordievader, I also just got these same messages in the terminal when I ran sudo update-grub
[20:00] <lordievader> I bet.
[20:00] <lordievader> It is time to fsck and check the smart data.
[20:00] <lordievader> I suspect a failing disk.
[20:00] <kaddi_> Smurphy, just wanted to let you know that the bluetooth is working now.. Not sure what happened, I tried to fix it for an entire day.. the next day I booted and the bluetooth was automatically detected
[20:00] <Draggin> Why the need for a live CD? Can't I run fsck here?
[20:01] <lordievader> No, fsck requires the filesystem to be unmounted/unused.
[20:01] <kaddi> still don't know what happened, but it wasn't a defective device in the end
[20:02] <Draggin> Ohhh, I see... Darn
[20:02] <lordievader> You can check the smart data in your install though.
[20:03] <Draggin> I have a Knoppix disc here somewhere, let me dig
[20:03] <lordievader> Install smartmontools if smartctl ain't available, else: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[20:03] <lordievader> !pastebin
[20:17] <Draggin> lordievader, https://paste.kde.org/ppmbaeeln
[20:20] <lordievader> Apart from the command_timeout it looks to be in good-health.
[20:21] <Draggin> I have no idea how to read that output :)
[20:21] <Draggin> This drive is less than a year old though, so it shouldn't have problems, really...
[20:24] <lordievader> Well, the important part are the reallocated sectors and pending sectors (these should be zero). Also anything with error in the tile (these should be as low as possible).
[20:26] <Draggin> What are all those "pre-fail" and "old-age" headings?
[20:28] <Draggin> lordievader, so what now…? fsck?
[20:30] <lordievader> Yes.
[20:30] <lordievader> Draggin: Those pre-fail/old-age you can ignore. Even new drives have those labels...
[20:31] <Draggin> Phew... Was just worrying there...
[20:33] <Draggin> Kay. I'll have to go read up on fsck then and find a bloody live CD in my mess somewhere
[20:46] <Draggin> lordievader, thanks for your assistance thus far.
[20:46] <lordievader> No problem.
[20:46] <Draggin> I'm going to have to get to bed though. Hopefully I can locate one of my live CDs tomorrow and see if fsck turns up something
[20:46] <Draggin> thanks again :)
[20:46] <Draggin> Good night!
[21:16] <hudsonkem> kde plasma 5.4.2 and 5.4.3, cannt change desktop layout to folder view.
[21:19] <hudsonkem> sorry my mistake, forgot to unlock widgets -_-
[23:48] <Carol> how can I download Kubuntu 15.04?
[23:49] <Carol> I want to put it in my pendrive
[23:49] <Carol> anyone can tell me? I see no links to download it anywhere