[16:32] <tsimonq2> ogra_: is there a more up-to-date release of Snappy that I can download? Maybe 15.10 or Xenial? The tutorial just says 15.04
[16:32] <ogra_> you can use rolling (xenial based)  when you build your own image with ubuntu-device-flash
[16:33] <tsimonq2> ogra_: how?
[16:34] <tsimonq2> ogra_: and isn't there just an equivelent to do-release-upgrade in snappy?
[16:34] <ogra_> updates are installed automatically when new images are released by default
[16:35] <ogra_> (you can turn that off with "snappy config ubuntu-core" if you do not want that)
[16:35] <tsimonq2> oh, so could I just do snappy update and it will automatically be rolling then?
[16:35] <ogra_> but they will only remain within the channel you originally instaleld
[16:35] <ogra_> no
[16:35] <ogra_> if you use a 15.04 image it will auto-update if there i a new 15..04
[16:35] <ogra_> you wont be able to switch over to the rolling channel
[16:36] <ogra_> (thins might change once we dropped all of system-image)
[16:37] <tsimonq2> ogra_: so there is NO way whatsoever to switch the channel? No sources.list change?
[16:37] <ogra_> not currently, no
[16:37] <tsimonq2> oh, ok
[16:37] <ogra_> as i said, that will likely change once we dropped system-image
[16:37] <tsimonq2> ogra_: is there a download link for a rolling amd64 image?
[16:37] <ogra_> no, there is no such thing, you have to create one yourself
[16:37] <ogra_>  sudo ubuntu-device-flash core --channel=edge --oem=generic-amd64 -o test.img rolling
[16:38] <ogra_> that should get you one
[16:38] <ogra_> (probably add --install=webdm)
[16:38] <ogra_> (and --enable-ssh)
[16:40] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, tsimonq2 it doesn't work on xenial, try on 14.04 Determining oem configuration
[16:40] <Guest74213> generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found
[16:40] <tsimonq2> Guest74213: I just did sudo apt -y install snappy
[16:41] <tsimonq2> oh...but one removes the other
[16:41] <Guest74213> :>]
[16:41] <tsimonq2> ogra_! what packages do I need installed for this? I am running xenial
[16:41] <ogra_> just ubuntu-device-flash should be enough ... it should pull the needed dependencies
[16:41] <Guest74213> ogra_, it doesn't work on xenial
[16:42] <tsimonq2> ogra_: this is what I am getting: generic-amd64 failed to install: snappy package not found
[16:42] <Guest74213> yes, me 2
[16:42] <ogra_> try adding https://launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+archive/ubuntu/image
[16:42] <tsimonq2> ok, trying now
[16:43] <ogra_> seems the last snappy upload FTBFS
[16:43] <ogra_> so it might be uninstallable atm
[16:43] <ogra_> (xenial is a devel release after all :P )
[16:44] <tsimonq2> ogra_: what do I have to do after the ppa? the package is already installed
[16:45] <Guest74213> The following packages will be upgraded:
[16:45] <Guest74213>   golang-snappy-dev ubuntu-snappy-cli
[16:46] <Guest74213> Warning: The home dir /nonexistent you specified can't be accessed: No such file or directory
[16:46] <Guest74213> The system user `snappypkg' already exists.  Exiting.
[16:46] <Guest74213> and the same error
[16:46] <tsimonq2> it went fine for me...
[16:46] <Guest74213> oh
[16:46] <Guest74213> so can you make the image now?
[16:46] <tsimonq2> nope
[16:47] <tsimonq2> still the same error
[16:47] <Guest74213> yeah :'(
[16:47] <tsimonq2> I'm wondering if I should just pull up a 14.04 VM and build it there, then transfer it over
[16:47] <tsimonq2> (to the host system)
[16:47]  * tsimonq2 trys that
[16:49] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, after that try to install this snap https://uappexplorer.com/app/classic.mvo
[16:50] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, https://uappexplorer.com/app/classic.mvo
[16:50] <Guest74213> sorry
[16:50] <Guest74213> tsimonq2, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2015-November/001290.html
[16:50] <tsimonq2> well stahp, let me get it installed first jeez us
[16:58] <Guest74213> :D
[16:58] <Guest74213> by all
[16:58] <tsimonq2> I have the Lubuntu 14.04.3 VM ready
[16:58] <tsimonq2> so what do I install?
[17:05] <ogra_> you enable the above PPA and install ubuntu-device-flash
[17:08]  * tsimonq2 met dependency errors and got frustrated, so he is going to give in to just using 15.04 for now
[17:33] <tsimonq2> ogra_: looking to build a snap for irssi, is it easy enough to just port it, or do I have to tweak it a lot?
[17:33] <tsimonq2> ogra_: and what do I do abou dependencies?
[17:33] <tsimonq2> *about
[17:34] <ogra_> create a snapcraft file, it will care for the deps any everything
[17:34] <tsimonq2> ok
[17:35] <ogra_> (for that you want to install snapcraft indeed ... there is some PPA for it too)
[17:40] <tsimonq2> already installed
[17:46] <tsimonq2> ogra_: following https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/packaging-format-apps/, running "snapcraft" in my irssi directory that I created with my snapcraft.yaml file just outputs that I am missing the parts property, but it isn't listed on that link. What's the reason?
[17:46] <ogra_> dunno, someone didnt update the docs yet  ?
[17:47] <tsimonq2> oh
[17:47] <ogra_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/+junk/ircproxy/files
[17:47] <ogra_> take a look at that snapcraft.yaml
[17:48] <ogra_> at the bottom you see the packages it is supposed to install
[17:48] <ogra_> so create your own parts block :)
[17:48]  * tsimonq2 already found it here: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/build-apps/your-first-snap/
[17:48] <tsimonq2> but thanks :)
[17:49] <tsimonq2> so I just need to list ALL of the dependencies?
[17:59] <tsimonq2> ogra_: ok, so irssi is on Github and requires some dependencies, is there any way that I could just clone it from Github, then add/edit some config files, and it will work?
[18:00] <tsimonq2> ogra_: or will it require a complete rewrite?
[18:18] <ogra_> tsimonq2, i think thats easy, but i have never done it ... my packages usually just use debs from the archive
[18:18] <ogra_> you dont need to llist any dependencies
[18:18] <tsimonq2> ogra_: well irssi IS in the repos, so I COULD do THAT too
[18:19] <ogra_> see my file above ... it onnly defines bip and openssl
[18:19] <ogra_> deps are pulled automatically into the snap
[18:20] <tsimonq2> oh cool