[00:49] <darkxst> eliasps, you done any C programming?
[00:50] <eliasps> darkxst Yes, I have.
[00:50] <darkxst> eliasps, ok got a fairly simple bug for to work on then if you want
[00:51] <eliasps> Ok, good! I wanted to get involved with this. I'll work on it tomorrow morning first thing because it;s 3 am here. What is it?
[00:51] <darkxst> vino part of bug 1518813
[00:52] <eliasps> Ok, bookmarked :)!
[00:52] <darkxst> vino-server needs to be patch to ignore the gsettings "enabled" key at startup when running under GNOME
[00:53] <darkxst> you can get the current DE with XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[00:54] <eliasps> It's GNOME, on xenial, so it's ok.
[00:55] <darkxst> eliasps, I mean you can check it from the C code, and then ignore the gsetting and just run server anyway
[00:56] <darkxst> session = g_getenv ("XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP");
[00:56] <darkxst> if (session && strstr (session, "GNOME"))
[00:57] <eliasps> Oh, got it! Thanks. I'll ping you when I have something, because I might need some guidance on uploading the patch..
[00:58] <darkxst> simple patches can be done with quilt new
[00:58] <darkxst> but generally I just use git, then export to quilt
[00:59] <eliasps> I'll use git as well at first then.
[01:01] <freakyy> hi all. is there any way i can change the profile picture at the gdm login screen?
[01:02] <eliasps> freakyy hi, you can through system settings > user accounts
[01:02] <eliasps> users*
[01:05] <freakyy> eliasps: thank you :)
[01:05] <eliasps> no problem.
[01:07] <LinDol> hi all :)
[01:07] <LinDol> good morning freakyy , eliasps  :-)
[01:07] <eliasps> Good morning LinDol
[01:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Well, good evening, LinDol. :)
[01:08] <LinDol> Wow ;)
[01:08] <freakyy> hi LinDol
[01:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Central time, USA
[01:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Near Houston, TX.
[01:09] <LinDol> you are 8 PM?
[01:16] <darkxst> hey LinDol
[01:17] <LinDol> darkxst, hi :)
[01:25] <freakyy> what ubuntu gnome r u all using?
[01:26] <freakyy> i think i have .16 installed
[01:26] <LinDol> I have put ubuntu gnome 15.10( WW) :)
[01:26] <freakyy> yea smae here
[01:27] <freakyy> is there anyhting new ppl need to know?
[01:27] <LinDol> sorry, what does 'ppl' mean?
[01:27] <darkxst> freakyy, xenial
[01:27] <freakyy> whats xenial
[01:28] <LinDol> 16.004
[01:28] <darkxst> 16.04 development series
[01:28] <LinDol> :)
[01:28] <freakyy> ah ko
[01:28] <freakyy> ok
[01:28] <freakyy> i dotn want tht
[01:28] <freakyy> might be hanging in system and unable to do anything
[01:28] <LinDol> oh , on your 15.10?
[01:28] <freakyy> no on xenial
[01:29] <darkxst> freakyy, what do you want to know? just ask if you have questions
[01:29] <LinDol> ah... okay
[01:29] <freakyy> i was jsut curious if theres any must have app or something
[01:29] <darkxst> well we include app (what we believe) are must have apps in the default install
[01:29] <darkxst> anything else becomes, personal preference really
[01:30] <freakyy> ok
[01:30] <freakyy> are u from the dev team?
[01:30] <darkxst> freakyy, there is also lots of info on the wiki, but mostly aimed towards contributing to the project
[01:31] <darkxst> head dev
[01:31] <freakyy> oh ok nice ;D
[01:31] <freakyy> i like ubuntu-gnome
[01:31] <freakyy> but im really new to it so
[01:31] <freakyy> i cant say much
[01:31] <freakyy> may i tell u waht i dont like?
[01:31] <darkxst> sure
[01:32] <freakyy> i dont like the title bar of windows beeing so big and wasting space somehow ... first u have the taskbar then the title bar ... and the title bar is even extra big
[01:32] <freakyy> thats the only thing i dont like so far
[01:33] <darkxst> window titlebar or headerbar (the ones with buttons etc)
[01:33] <darkxst> there are probably themes that can make the window titlebar smaller
[01:34] <darkxst> the inconsistency of apps using titlebar vs headerbar is annoying, but can't do anything about that
[01:34] <freakyy> yes i need to ahve a look
[01:35] <darkxst> I have old school 4:3 monitors, so the height issue doesnt really bother me
[01:40] <freakyy> is this a theme i could use http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/zonColor+Themes+Pack?content=156189
[01:40] <freakyy> ? i mean its said to be for unity too
[01:42] <freakyy> and its from 2013?
[01:42] <darkxst> freakyy, it would need to specifically support GTK 3.16
[01:42] <freakyy> oh ok
[01:52] <freakyy> hm, i cant find a good theme
[01:52] <darkxst> numix is quite popular
[01:53] <freakyy> ok lemme check
[01:54] <darkxst> don't know if it resizes titlebars though
[02:04] <freakyy> no it doesnt resize title bars
[02:07] <freakyy> also firefox has a titlebar i dont think it should have one ... everywhere else the title bar was removed from firefox so itlooks like google chrome
[02:07] <freakyy> but yea i can live with it
[02:07] <freakyy> maybe one day it will get fixed ;D
[02:07] <freakyy> btw, is there any other popular theme?
[02:09] <LinDol> http://gnome-look.org/
[02:10] <LinDol> haha This is supported to you for modifying themes :)
[02:10] <darkxst> firefox still uses gtk2 on linux, so it will always have a titlebar
[02:11] <darkxst> one did when its ported to gtk3, it can be made to look like windows/chrome etc
[02:11] <darkxst> ^one day
[02:12] <darkxst> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/htitle/
[02:12] <darkxst> no idea if that still works though
[02:13] <freakyy> nah i dont wnna customize too much
[02:13] <freakyy> i will keep it like it is now
[02:14] <LinDol> oh
[02:15] <LinDol> darkxst, This extension will be hide THE titlebar that filefox has?
[02:15] <darkxst> LinDol, only when maximised and its old, don't know if it has been maintained for recent versions
[02:16] <darkxst> freakyy, try epiphany browser then ;)
[02:17] <LinDol> darkxst, thank you for your suggestion :) I will try to put this extextion ;-)
[02:19] <freakyy> darkxst: no id like to stay with firefox
[02:19] <freakyy> it has all my stuff synced through windows and linux
[02:19] <freakyy> and pcs
[02:25] <lindol> oh hohoho
[02:25] <lindol> When Firefox is maximized,
[02:25] <lindol> title bar has been hided :)
[02:25] <lindol> Thank you darkxst :)
[02:27] <lindol> oh yes yes good :)
[02:43] <darkxst> lindol, :)
[03:21] <freakyy> :)
[03:21] <freakyy> im off, good night all ;D
[03:22] <lindol> freakyy, have a great dream :)
[08:29] <lindol> I am translating WW release note to Korean.
[08:30] <lindol> After finishing to translate, Could i add link in original page?
[08:30] <lindol> because I didn't find any other languages on original page
[08:33] <darkxst_> lindol, I guess so, but don't really know
[08:33] <darkxst_> email the wiki/docs list perhaps?
[08:34] <darkxst_> there may even have been a translation team at one point?
[08:35] <lindol> um.. Okay, I am trying to translate release note to Korean first and then,
[08:35] <lindol> I will send email to mailing list to add link :)
[08:35] <lindol> for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME/ page :)
[08:36] <darkxst_> lindol, yea I got that, normally I would say just contact Ali, but think he is taking time off atm
[08:37] <darkxst_> lindol, we want better release notes for 16.04 if you interested ;) (english of course)
[08:37] <lindol> oh.
[08:38] <darkxst_> something more like a blog post, with screenshots capturing the new features ;)
[08:38] <lindol> 16.04 release note has been in our blog(ubuntu-gnome.org) already? :)
[08:39] <darkxst_> lindol, no, not yet
[08:39] <darkxst_> you could create it though
[08:39] <lindol> oh sorry for my misunderstanding
[08:39] <lindol> hahaha
[08:39] <lindol> i understood now
[08:40] <lindol> but I am not ready haha for creating original page :)
[08:47] <darkxst_> lindol plenty of time to learn
[08:48] <lindol> Thank you darkxst_  :)
[08:48] <lindol> you are my teacher haha
[08:48] <lindol> oh i have a good news.
[08:48] <lindol> when i was try to test for english specking,
[08:48] <lindol> I have gotten new grade
[08:48] <lindol> ;)
[08:48] <darkxst_> lindol, great!
[08:49] <lindol> Opic IM1 level
[08:49] <lindol> Thank you for your teaching and all of member in ubuntu gnome community :)
[08:50] <darkxst_> lol, you realise I am trying to recruit you for english tasks ;)
[08:50] <freakyy> hm i just installed http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Faenza?content=128143
[08:50] <freakyy> this icon theme
[08:50] <freakyy> it looks really good :)
[08:50] <lindol> darkxst_, haha thank you :)
[08:51] <lindol> freakyy, i think it was good
[08:53] <lindol> I think that icon theme looks like android or i os icon style
[08:56] <freakyy> lindol: i don tknow i like it. it are small handy icons and even the battery icon i didnt like was replaced ;D
[08:59] <lindol> haha
[08:59] <lindol> that is ok.
[09:00] <lindol> :) but I tend to like defaut theme haha,
[09:00] <freakyy> i have a question
[09:00] <freakyy> can i use this gtk3 theme, even though it is .18 and not .16? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/White?content=173840
[09:00] <lindol> After Ubuntu Gnome having a dark-themes.
[09:01] <lindol> I think it is possible
[09:02] <darkxst_> lindol, that is up to the artwork team
[09:02] <lindol> White   3.18.novo
[09:02] <lindol> GTK 3.x Theme/Style
[09:02] <lindol> ummm.
[09:04] <lindol> ohh :) time to have some dinner :) have a good time.  :)
[09:11] <freakyy> ok i used another theme
[09:11] <freakyy> it looks really good
[09:11] <freakyy> u lov eit
[09:12] <freakyy> its called cetic-2 ... i use the ubuntu repo http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ceti-2+-+Theme?content=167528
[09:14] <darkxst_> freakyy, the only them I use, is the solarized terminal theme
[09:14] <freakyy> how does it look can u give me a screenshot?
[09:14] <freakyy> i use normal terminal with background
[09:14] <darkxst_> freakyy, just try it! its shipped with gnome-terminal
[09:16] <freakyy> oh how to?
[09:16] <freakyy> ah found it
[09:16] <freakyy> no ill stay with black on gray
[09:16] <freakyy> a bit transparent background
[09:16] <freakyy> and everything looks nice
[09:17] <freakyy> im here connected over ssh with my server, set up screen and in ther ei run weechat
[09:17] <freakyy> and thatshow i got o irc ;D
[09:23] <darkxst_> just saying solarized and powerline, make for a pretty nice terminal ;)
[09:24] <freakyy> :)
[09:28] <freakyy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9PxjOw3B_A heres my terminal ... the gtk theme etc. arent recent anymore
[09:28] <freakyy> i now use the vertex theme
[09:29] <freakyy> its more recent than the celtic one and look very smilar
[09:29] <freakyy> i mvery happy with gnome now ;D
[09:30] <freakyy> now id only need the very latest gnome but yea ...
[09:30] <freakyy> in 5 months there will be a new lts version anyway so
[09:30] <freakyy> i think im gonna wait for that
[09:30] <darkxst_> you can get 3.18 from gnome3-staging ppa
[09:32] <darkxst_> that is pretty stable now
[09:32] <freakyy> darkxst_: do u work on gnome-3 staging?
[09:33] <darkxst_> freakyy, its maintained by the ubuntu GNOME team, so yea
[09:33] <freakyy> my problem is, i have ppa-purge installed but ... when i upgrade im scared ill forget purging the ppas
[09:33] <freakyy> and even if i dont forget i need to collect th einformation how to remove the ppas
[09:34] <freakyy> ok ill add gnome staging repos now
[09:34] <freakyy> i also ahve to add gnome3 other repos aswell right?
[09:34] <freakyy> lemme do it now
[09:34] <darkxst_> thats probably less of a problem these days since we just backprort most packages after release
[09:36] <darkxst_> during development though its a minefield
[09:36] <darkxst_> that will start soon for xenial/staging
[09:40] <freakyy> lk i added both repos and created an unisntall-upgrade.txt file where i collect the repos i need to purge
[09:40] <freakyy> btw, if i press alt-tab and have 2 terminals open, how do i switch between the two terminals, pressing alt tab just continues to the next program open
[09:41] <darkxst_> alt-~
[09:41] <freakyy> i have a german keyboard
[09:41] <darkxst_> freakyy, the key left of 1
[09:41] <freakyy> thanks :D
[09:42] <freakyy> ok now the apt-get update
[09:42] <darkxst_> that will switch between the instances of current focused app
[09:43] <freakyy> ok so let's see if this works with my laptop ;D
[09:43]  * darkxst_ goes, night
[09:43] <freakyy> good night darkxst_  and thank you fro your help :)
[09:54] <freakyy> my windows 10 when i upgraded to win10 ... trashed my sound driver everything cam eout scratched etc. like if the sound was too loud now in ubuntu everything works fine ;D
[17:25] <freakyy> darkxst: r u there? i have a problem. http://postimg.org/image/o2ojj7fl5/ <-- as u can see, in ubuntu software center the entries are white on white :(
[17:25] <freakyy> im using a theme
[17:25] <freakyy> do i have to report that to the theme author?
[17:46] <freakyy> i posted a bug report at their github
[18:26] <freakyy> hm i cant find a good cursor theme ill stick to the default
[21:30] <freakyy> ah it installed itself again
[21:31] <freakyy> i hope i have everything recent installed now ;D
[21:31] <freakyy> ok guys, im gonna take a shower now
[21:31] <freakyy> l8r all
[21:48] <freakyy> darkxst: ive installed the latest gnome from the ppas but still i cant set dim screen on battery mode?
[21:57] <darkxst> freakyy, brightness?
[21:59] <freakyy> darkxst: yea
[21:59] <freakyy> in settings --> Battery
[21:59] <freakyy> or Power
[21:59] <freakyy> wait
[22:00] <freakyy> in Power
[22:00] <freakyy> gnome .18 has a new feature to automatically reduce the brightness when u are on battery
[22:01] <freakyy> but i dont have that listed?
[22:01] <darkxst> i don't know about that either, file a bug
[22:04] <freakyy> or wait maybe i need to restart
[22:04] <freakyy> ?
[22:05] <freakyy> ill do that ina minute
[22:05] <freakyy> first ill isntall qweechat
[22:50] <darkxst> freakyy, does you laptop have a light sensor?
[22:52] <freakyy> darkxst: no
[22:52] <freakyy> but its said to dim the light when on battery mode
[22:52] <darkxst> then you won't see that new option
[22:52] <freakyy> oh ok
[22:52] <freakyy> ;D
[22:52] <freakyy> sorry
[22:52] <freakyy> i have spaghetties ;D
[22:52] <freakyy> with sauce
[22:52] <freakyy> :) *eats*
[22:53] <freakyy> i love my new desktop
[22:53] <freakyy> i only have to boot into windows if i wanna play guildwars 2
[22:54] <darkxst> I don't even have a windows partition here ;)
[22:57] <freakyy> darkxst: yes u probably dont play games. even with fglrx driver the game runs slow as it can only be run in wine
[22:59] <freakyy> i use weechat on server and go to irc ssh --> screen --> weechat
[22:59] <freakyy> i think its the best way so i never have to set up irc anywhere
[23:09] <freakyy> now im connected to my weechat using glowing-bear ... but its no standalone client sadly
[23:09] <freakyy> ok maybe the wrong channel to talk about that
[23:09] <freakyy> sorry
[23:11] <freakyy> darkxst: what langauge do u code in for gnome?
[23:11] <freakyy> c++?
[23:41] <darkxst> freakyy, mostly its C, but some apps use vala and gnome-shell uses javascript for the UI
[23:41] <freakyy> hm ok ;)
[23:41] <freakyy> i know a bit java
[23:41] <freakyy> but i dont know what i could code
[23:42] <darkxst> no I don't really play games
[23:42] <freakyy> darkxst: ;)
[23:42] <freakyy> i only play gw2
[23:42] <freakyy> but i own a minecraft server - but i only administrate it
[23:43] <darkxst> best place to start is too find and fix bugs ;)
[23:55] <freakyy> test
[23:55] <freakyy> wrong channel