| mparillo | Generally, the LTS (14.04) and current (15.10) are available directly from kubuntu.org, and I would prefer either to 15.04, however ... | 00:08 |
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| mparillo | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.04/release/ | 00:09 |
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| Guest52963 | slt | 08:51 |
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| dv_ | is systray broken in kde5 / kubuntu 15.10? application systray icons dont seem to appear anymore | 12:36 |
| hateball | dv_: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ | 12:38 |
| hateball | that should be an automatic trigger | 12:39 |
| dv_ | hmm. okay | 12:40 |
| dv_ | I had the issue with dropbox last time | 12:40 |
| hateball | yep that is one such app | 12:41 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:39 |
| === Guest72345 is now known as lordievader | ||
| jubo2 | Is there a command that will list all software installed with apt so I can just grab that and use that to 'sudo apt install...' on another system | 15:40 |
| jubo2 | I think I want once again to install clean | 15:41 |
| jubo2 | that or I want to move existing partitions to a bigger hard disk | 15:41 |
| lordievader | dpkg -l, but you don't want to copy paste that list. | 15:41 |
| lordievader | Manually installed dependencies won't be uninstalled by apt-get autoremove. | 15:42 |
| Geowany | jubo2: You can try this: dpkg --get-selections > packages.list | 15:45 |
| jubo2 | ok | 15:45 |
| Geowany | On another machine, you can install with this command | 15:45 |
| Geowany | sudo dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade | 15:45 |
| Geowany | It works for me. =) | 15:46 |
| jubo2 | Geowany: Thanks! Saved to ~/Documents/commands/ | 15:48 |
| jubo2 | I mean to get some useful command or list of commands on irc and not to make a recording of it in one way or another is just bad manners.. they come back for the same command when they've forgotten it and didn't save it in a retrievable place | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | like a cli-commands textfile, everyone should have one | 15:51 |
| BluesKaj | mine's so old ai have to periodically edit it for commands the no longer apply | 15:52 |
| BluesKaj | still had some aptitude commands the last tinme I edited | 15:53 |
| Geowany | When commands are useful for others, I write at our blog of community local. But it is written in portuguese. | 15:55 |
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| jubo2 | I want to reinstall clean Kubuntu15 with minimal hassle on this one 500GB disk | 16:39 |
| jubo2 | So I am thinking.. | 16:41 |
| jubo2 | get configuration from dpkg on old system | 16:42 |
| jubo2 | install Kubuntu | 16:42 |
| jubo2 | plug in old disk and transfer all of /home to the newly created /home partition via temporary mount | 16:42 |
| jubo2 | and then give the dpkg generated list to the apt to install all apt'able software | 16:43 |
| jubo2 | does this make sense? | 16:44 |
| jubo2 | I need to Gparted it | 16:51 |
| jubo2 | the disk.. It contains some relic Kubuntu14.04LTS 40GB partition | 16:51 |
| jubo2 | or is the KDE partition tool kewler than Gparted? | 16:51 |
| francis_ | Hi! My Ktorrent app always lags. Is it a hardware problem? | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | dunno why you don't use separate / and /home partitions, jubo2 | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | francis_, lags, how? | 16:53 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: I use | 16:54 |
| jubo2 | just not in 2014 | 16:54 |
| francis_ | Ktorrent always stops | 16:54 |
| jubo2 | so I could just move the partition with dd or instead of mount-and-copy | 16:54 |
| jubo2 | but that doesn't matter does it? | 16:55 |
| francis_ | the app stops, downloading stops | 16:55 |
| francis_ | it automatically resumes though | 16:55 |
| BluesKaj | `dd will copy, but make sure the of partition is almost the same size ..has to be a bit larger for safety's sake | 16:56 |
| jubo2 | uh-oh.. KDE Partition Editor says about the NTFS: "0 Bytes used" | 16:56 |
| jubo2 | that's not right | 16:56 |
| jubo2 | I just checked it is using 78GB | 16:56 |
| BluesKaj | francis_, downloading is a function of the torrent sources, most likely not ktorrent itself | 16:57 |
| jubo2 | hmmm... | 16:58 |
| jubo2 | the Live CD has mounted /dev/sda6 as SWAP | 16:58 |
| jubo2 | I don't want this. I want to get rid of those unused Linux partitions | 16:58 |
| francis_ | but Ktorrent hangs quite a lot! I have used it before, it never did before! | 16:59 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: Should I be worried / vary of resizing the NTFS disk with any of these tools that report 0 bytes used | 16:59 |
| BluesKaj | francis_, check your ktorrent internet and speed settings | 16:59 |
| jubo2 | If I know I'm making it big enough to fit all the stuff there | 17:00 |
| jubo2 | francis_: Some operators may throttle p2p network activity | 17:00 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, not if you have lots of unused space | 17:00 |
| BluesKaj | on the ntfs partition | 17:00 |
| jubo2 | It was packed | 17:00 |
| jubo2 | I hit the unpack but cancelled it because it was taking forever | 17:01 |
| BluesKaj | unpack? | 17:01 |
| francis_ | I'm afraid you really don't understand. the app itself stops. the APP oitself hangs! | 17:01 |
| francis_ | the app itself! | 17:01 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: uncompress | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | francis_, do you mean it fails to load? | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, encrypted? | 17:02 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: no, just compressed | 17:03 |
| francis_ | It loads, it functions, but it STOPS! | 17:03 |
| francis_ | it hangs! | 17:03 |
| BluesKaj | francis_, what stops? | 17:03 |
| francis_ | maybe the word "hangs" is only on Windows, not on Linux | 17:03 |
| BluesKaj | it greys out ? | 17:03 |
| francis_ | sometimes it greys out, | 17:04 |
| francis_ | sometimes totally blank | 17:04 |
| BluesKaj | hangs means fails to load and start properly | 17:04 |
| francis_ | okay, it loads but then suddenly stops. Only Ktorrent | 17:04 |
| BluesKaj | francis_, have you updated and upgraded your packages lately ? | 17:05 |
| francis_ | Yes, it did | 17:05 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: no install targets for ntfsprogs and ntfs-3g is already the latest version | 17:06 |
| jubo2 | but still cannot resize that disk | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | francis_, are you on a work or school network ? | 17:06 |
| jubo2 | except grow it | 17:06 |
| jubo2 | but I want to shrink it | 17:06 |
| francis_ | home | 17:07 |
| jubo2 | I guess I need to boot to Windows and run the uncompression till the end | 17:07 |
| francis_ | i will restart | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, then shrink the 14.04 partition to make small enough to copy over withdd | 17:07 |
| francis_ | if an extended test on HDD did not detect any error, then my drive has no bad sector? | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, don't get side tracked , bad sectors are auto skipped | 17:08 |
| jubo2 | I reboot to Kubuntu with the USB hard drive and the to-be-shrunk NTFS in /dev/sda | 17:08 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, no need for too many details | 17:09 |
| jubo2 | mi irc logs need an exabyte of details | 17:09 |
| jubo2 | "Ubi-partman failed with exit code 141" | 18:34 |
| jubo2 | I'm trying to install Kubuntu on by the side of Windows | 18:35 |
| jubo2 | I've put /-partition to end of disk, then SWAP and /home in the middle of the disk | 18:35 |
| jubo2 | this way I can grow and shrink the NTFS and the EXT4 partitions as needed | 18:35 |
| jubo2 | could this order have something to do with that ubi-partman failing? | 18:36 |
| jubo2 | could the installation media be defective? | 18:38 |
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| BluesKaj | jubo2, here are some suggestions https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/945027 | 18:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 945027 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "ubi-partman failed with exit code 141" [High,Fix released] | 18:44 |
| jubo2 | is there a limit how many raw partitions there can be? | 18:44 |
| jubo2 | I'm looking at the situation in KDE Partition Manager | 18:45 |
| jubo2 | and it put the swap and /home on an extended partition | 18:45 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: Should I put all needed partitions into an Extended partition? | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, don't use the kde partition manager , it's buggy , install gparted , use that | 18:47 |
| jubo2 | ok | 18:48 |
| svend-ev | Good morning | 18:51 |
| jubo2 | g'morning svend-ev | 18:51 |
| jubo2 | I get error from Gparted | 18:57 |
| jubo2 | "mkfs.ext4 -L "" /dev/sda6" (error) | 18:57 |
| jubo2 | is the disk broken? | 19:01 |
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| jubo2 | How do I check if the installation media is broken or if the target media is broken? | 19:06 |
| jubo2 | Huhuu? | 19:10 |
| jubo2 | Is there a way to check installation media for errors | 19:10 |
| jubo2 | checksum calculation of some sorts | 19:10 |
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| jubo2 | I think that stick is faulty | 19:21 |
| jubo2 | I try another stick | 19:21 |
| jubo2 | yeah.. looks like the stick was faulty | 19:34 |
| BluesKaj | use dd to copy the iso to the usb stick, it's be bootable | 19:34 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2,^ | 19:35 |
| BluesKaj | it will be bootable, that is | 19:36 |
| jubo2 | BluesKaj: I did but the stick was faulty | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 19:37 |
| jubo2 | I copied it over an El Capitan installer now and problems are gone | 19:37 |
| jubo2 | ok I did take an dd image of that before I destroyed it | 19:37 |
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| jubo2 | who knows how crappy that Cupertino software is | 19:37 |
| jubo2 | maybe I need to isntall it again for mi mum | 19:37 |
| jubo2 | yeah | 19:43 |
| jubo2 | running glitchlessly now | 19:43 |
| jubo2 | damn | 19:59 |
| jubo2 | now I'm getting "Hash Sum Mismatched" running 'sudo apt update' | 19:59 |
| jubo2 | 's bad | 19:59 |
| jubo2 | I ixquick.com for it | 20:02 |
| jubo2 | I didn't find any | 20:07 |
| jubo2 | turned to googel | 20:07 |
| jubo2 | I found advice saying to delete /var/apt/lists/* and run 'sudo apt update' to rebuild | 20:08 |
| jubo2 | sounds legit | 20:09 |
| jubo2 | sorry /var/lib/apt/lists/* I meant | 20:10 |
| jubo2 | I was confusing those with sources.list | 20:10 |
| jubo2 | it's gonna use the repos described in sources.list and rebuild /var/lib/apt/lists | 20:11 |
| jubo2 | I must just say that this was the cleanest of clean installs after the faulty memory stick was discarded | 20:11 |
| jubo2 | so it's kinda weird that I should have wrong checksums | 20:12 |
| jubo2 | First thing I did was open a shell with the K-menu and type 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' | 20:12 |
| jubo2 | the right thing to do when trying to get the cleanest of the clean installs | 20:13 |
| jubo2 | I don't delete. I move dir | 20:13 |
| jubo2 | done | 20:15 |
| jubo2 | looks to be running fine the most useful computer tip ever: 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' | 20:15 |
| BluesKaj | jubo2, I'm surprised you didn't know that command | 20:16 |
| jubo2 | Find the little black screen. Enter the commands with && in between them. | 20:16 |
| jubo2 | "... and here in the K-menu you can find LibreOffice writer you gonna need" | 20:17 |
| jubo2 | ok | 20:17 |
| jubo2 | the system is the latest clean latest | 20:17 |
| jubo2 | now I download from server the file where output of 'dpkg --get-selections > packages.list' is | 20:18 |
| jubo2 | then run the command 'dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' | 20:19 |
| jubo2 | Then I copy everything over that /home dir from the old /home dir to get the configs I want | 20:19 |
| jubo2 | not to mention the documents and pics | 20:19 |
| BluesKaj | so this has become your personal blog for installing kubuntu | 20:20 |
| shaun__ | hi guys my /usr/local is only 239MB its entirely too small and now i cant install anything cause ive run out of space how do i increase the space | 20:22 |
| jubo2 | it's the best | 20:22 |
| jubo2 | shaun__: laptop or desktop? | 20:22 |
| jubo2 | if you have a partition for /usr/local you must make it bigger | 20:23 |
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| _shaun_ | laptop. how do i go about it | 20:23 |
| jubo2 | do you have many partitions or just one ? | 20:23 |
| _shaun_ | i think a couple i cant remember how to check | 20:24 |
| jubo2 | _shaun_: I'd get 2.5" migration kit with suitable size HDD or SSD | 20:24 |
| _shaun_ | so theres no other way? | 20:25 |
| jubo2 | Migration kit would include a 2.5" USB-to-SATA enclosure, the hard drive and a software you can use to move your partitions | 20:25 |
| BluesKaj | _shaun_, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean | 20:25 |
| jubo2 | _shaun_: I was just about to suggest what BluesKaj said | 20:25 |
| _shaun_ | my suspicion is pip is installng all its packages there | 20:26 |
| jubo2 | but wouldn't have remembered the command | 20:26 |
| jubo2 | _shaun_: SSD is no longer very expensive | 20:26 |
| jubo2 | and it is faster | 20:26 |
| jubo2 | I totally understand if people take a cheaper 1,000GB HDD then an expensive 512GB SSD | 20:27 |
| _shaun_ | ok i understand, i probably need to figure out how to configure pip to install its stuff elsewhere | 20:27 |
| _shaun_ | ok i need to take the ssd into consideration i wouldnt have thought of it before | 20:28 |
| jubo2 | _shaun_: if you ever feel like changing your HDD for bigger and/or faster just get the kit. You could purchase the USB-to-SATA enclosure separately but you'll pay $20 for it | 20:28 |
| jubo2 | _shaun_: with the kit of enclosure, bigger hard drive you can use the GNU/Linukka standard tools Gparted and dd to do the dirty work | 20:29 |
| jubo2 | or use the supplied by disk maker of the kit | 20:30 |
| jubo2 | _shaun_: with dd you can move the partitions to the new hard drive and with Gparted you can grow them | 20:30 |
| _shaun_ | ok ill do enquiries at the local shops here thanks | 20:31 |
| BluesKaj | HDD for large data storage, SSD for everyday appd usage | 20:31 |
| _shaun_ | so these partitions can mirate to and fro? | 20:31 |
| _shaun_ | migrate | 20:31 |
| BluesKaj | !info dd | 20:33 |
| ubottu | Package dd does not exist in wily | 20:33 |
| BluesKaj | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29 | 20:36 |
| juboxi | trying to run 'sudo dpkg --set-selections < packages.2015-11-30.list' | 20:42 |
| === sarah__ is now known as endrialdo | ||
| juboxi | I get bunch of lines like 'dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 17: apache2' | 20:42 |
| juboxi | then at the end of the printout it puts | 20:43 |
| juboxi | ' | 20:44 |
| juboxi | dpkg: warning: found unknown packages; this might mean the available database | 20:44 |
| juboxi | is outdated, and needs to be updated through a frontend method | 20:44 |
| juboxi | I don't get it why wouldn't the dpkg see package 'apache2' | 20:44 |
| juboxi | this would be simple if I knew what dpkg is and its relation to apt | 20:48 |
| lordievader | Dpkg is the package manager. Apt is merly used as a way to get the packages to the local system. Dpkg actually installs them and keeps track of what is installed. | 20:50 |
| juboxi | kewl.. thought so | 20:50 |
| juboxi | Debian PacKaGe management | 20:51 |
| juboxi | or something like that | 20:51 |
| lordievader | !info dpkg | 20:52 |
| ubottu | dpkg (source: dpkg): Debian package management system. In component main, is required. Version 1.18.2ubuntu5.1 (wily), package size 2063 kB, installed size 6660 kB | 20:52 |
| lordievader | Yes. | 20:52 |
| juboxi | lordievader: there seems to be switches to do with setting and getting available info | 20:52 |
| juboxi | I don't get this.. Why would it not see that "apache2" is available | 20:53 |
| juboxi | I want it to rebuild its database of known available products | 20:53 |
| juboxi | what happens if I run 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail' ? | 20:55 |
| lordievader | The man page will likely tell you. | 20:55 |
| juboxi | mmm.. | 20:58 |
| juboxi | installed dselect | 20:58 |
| juboxi | now gonna attempt to fix problem with 'sudo dselect update' | 20:58 |
| juboxi | oh yes | 21:03 |
| juboxi | 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' runs | 21:03 |
| heinkel_111 | I have a machine I have set up as nfs server, and another as nfs client if I can call it that, it mounts a couple of directories exported from the server | 21:07 |
| heinkel_111 | this usually works fine | 21:07 |
| heinkel_111 | but sometimes my network connection drops and then everything freezes | 21:08 |
| heinkel_111 | then I can issue a command to the server: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart | 21:08 |
| lordievader | heinkel_111: I guess you are using hard mounts, perhaps you need to consider using soft mounts. | 21:08 |
| heinkel_111 | lordievader, thank for the hint, I am not an expert on this | 21:09 |
| lordievader | heinkel_111: https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8787 | 21:10 |
| heinkel_111 | in fact there are a lot of disciplines I do not consider myself an expert in ... | 21:10 |
| heinkel_111 | lordievader: that problem description in the first sentence...it is that | 21:11 |
| heinkel_111 | lordievader: thank you | 21:11 |
| lordievader | heinkel_111: What do you mean? | 21:11 |
| heinkel_111 | "I have had the situation where I had been using an NFS server when something happened, the client lost connection with the server, and the entire system froze." | 21:12 |
| heinkel_111 | it is written so I understand he is talking about precisely the same problem, even if the information is technically insufficent to confirm that :) | 21:13 |
| lordievader | Yes. But the actual reason I linked to it, is that it describes the differences between the two methods. | 21:13 |
| heinkel_111 | which was what I neeeded, precisely, thank you | 21:13 |
| heinkel_111 | +:) | 21:13 |
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| nolsen | Is there a way to repair plasma? | 22:00 |
| nolsen | Because plasma is just constantly failing, killing it and executing it doesn't fix it. | 22:01 |
| nolsen | These dam segfault errors. | 22:02 |
| hay207 | hi guys, when opening a file named in arabic language from dolphin, it won't open, but i open it instead from the video player | 22:46 |
| hay207 | a media file | 22:46 |
| bprompt | hmmm w0t? | 22:49 |
| hay207 | i can't open an arabic named file directly from dolphin | 22:52 |
| bprompt | hay207: how about ... any other file manager? | 23:00 |
| hay207 | give me a minute or two | 23:02 |
| hay207 | bprompt: i tried rox-filler, works normally | 23:06 |
| hay207 | any file, not just a media file, won't open directly from dolphin | 23:08 |
| hay207 | named in arabic | 23:08 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 23:09 |
| bprompt | hay207: ok... now ...hmm check rox-filler .desktop file, and dolphin's, they'd be at /usr/share/applications/rox.filler.desktop and /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop , you might be missing quotes in the Exec= line I"d think, or something is missing from there, that's breaking out on the characters | 23:10 |
| bprompt | hay207: mine reads -> Exec = dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <---- keep in mind that, %u is the "selected file entries in the window" | 23:12 |
| hay207 | Exec=dolphin %i -caption %c %u | 23:13 |
| hay207 | rox has no desktop icon | 23:15 |
| bprompt | well, it does, it may just have a different name there | 23:15 |
| bprompt | window manager menus use it, as well as other menus | 23:16 |
| hay207 | it has no menu item | 23:16 |
| hay207 | i opened rox from terminal | 23:16 |
| bprompt | hay207: try with --> Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <--- you can override /usr/share/applications .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so | 23:17 |
| bprompt | hay207: hmmmm pretty sure it'd have one.... tis there somewhere...anyhow... try the edited dolphin's .desktop | 23:17 |
| bprompt | hay207: try first with "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u" | 23:18 |
| hay207 | so i cp dolphin desktop file to ~/.local? | 23:21 |
| hay207 | and try with %c only? | 23:21 |
| hay207 | cp= copy and paste | 23:21 |
| bprompt | hay207: try with --> Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <--- you can override /usr/share/applications .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so | 23:22 |
| bprompt | well, "cp' it, sure, or just drag/drop as well, and then edit the local .desktop | 23:22 |
| hay207 | fails | 23:25 |
| hay207 | let me explain the problem more | 23:25 |
| hay207 | vlc shows error opening ???? <-- | 23:26 |
| bprompt | hay207: which means the %u isn't picking up the full filename | 23:29 |
| bprompt | hay207: try first with "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u" | 23:29 |
| hay207 | just the arabic name | 23:29 |
| hay207 | no luck | 23:32 |
| bprompt | hmm | 23:33 |
| bprompt | hay207: do you have the dolphin in arabic language? | 23:34 |
| hay207 | no | 23:34 |
| hay207 | in english | 23:34 |
| hay207 | i m installing konqueror | 23:36 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 23:38 |
| bprompt | k | 23:38 |
| hay207 | same error :( | 23:38 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 23:38 |
| hay207 | i will fill a bug | 23:39 |
| hay207 | report | 23:39 |
| bprompt | hmm | 23:41 |
| bprompt | well | 23:41 |
| bprompt | hay207: try adding the Arabic Language first, through -> System Settings > Locale > System Languages | 23:41 |
| hay207 | when i add it, some UI elements change to arabic, and | 23:42 |
| hay207 | i see a program in mixed english and arabic | 23:43 |
| hay207 | :) | 23:43 |
| hay207 | ok, thanks bpromptfor trying to help | 23:47 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 23:48 |
| bprompt | hay207: was thinking, you can, once it's added, go to the same spot System Settings > Locale > Country/Region & Language > Language <-- tab, to add the arabic language support for kde apps | 23:50 |
| hay207 | As i said, if i added arabic language, i see some programs in mixed english and arabic | 23:52 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 23:54 |
| bprompt | well....the issue seems to be something with DCOP in kde apps only | 23:55 |
| bprompt | doesn't happen to rox-filler or the media player, likely because they're not using the kde dialog subroutine | 23:56 |
| bprompt | could be a bug, yes | 23:56 |
| hay207 | ok | 23:56 |
| bprompt | !bug | hay207 | 23:58 |
| ubottu | hay207: If you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers. | 23:58 |
| bprompt | !cockroaches | 23:59 |
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