[00:08] <mparillo> Generally, the LTS (14.04) and current (15.10) are available directly from kubuntu.org, and I would prefer either to 15.04, however ...
[00:09] <mparillo> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.04/release/
[08:51] <Guest52963> slt
[12:36] <dv_> is systray broken in kde5 / kubuntu 15.10? application systray icons dont seem to appear anymore
[12:38] <hateball> dv_: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[12:39] <hateball> that should be an automatic trigger
[12:40] <dv_> hmm. okay
[12:40] <dv_> I had the issue with dropbox last time
[12:41] <hateball> yep that is one such app
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[15:40] <jubo2> Is there a command that will list all software installed with apt so I can just grab that and use that to 'sudo apt install...' on another system
[15:41] <jubo2> I think I want once again to install clean
[15:41] <jubo2> that or I want to move existing partitions to a bigger hard disk
[15:41] <lordievader> dpkg -l, but you don't want to copy paste that list.
[15:42] <lordievader> Manually installed dependencies won't be uninstalled by apt-get autoremove.
[15:45] <Geowany> jubo2: You can try this: dpkg --get-selections > packages.list
[15:45] <jubo2> ok
[15:45] <Geowany> On another machine, you can install with this command
[15:45] <Geowany> sudo ﻿﻿dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[15:46] <Geowany> It works for me. =)
[15:48] <jubo2> Geowany: Thanks! Saved to ~/Documents/commands/
[15:49] <jubo2> I mean to get some useful command or list of commands on irc and not to make a recording of it in one way or another is just bad manners.. they come back for the same command when they've forgotten it and didn't save it in a retrievable place
[15:51] <BluesKaj> like a cli-commands textfile, everyone should have one
[15:52] <BluesKaj> mine's so old ai have to periodically edit it for commands the no longer apply
[15:53] <BluesKaj> still had some aptitude commands the last tinme I edited
[15:55] <Geowany> When commands are useful for others, I write at our blog of community local. But it is written in portuguese.
[16:39] <jubo2> I want to reinstall clean Kubuntu15 with minimal hassle on this one 500GB disk
[16:41] <jubo2> So I am thinking..
[16:42] <jubo2> get configuration from dpkg on old system
[16:42] <jubo2> install Kubuntu
[16:42] <jubo2> plug in old disk and transfer all of /home to the newly created /home partition via temporary mount
[16:43] <jubo2> and then give the dpkg generated list to the apt to install all apt'able software
[16:44] <jubo2> does this make sense?
[16:51] <jubo2> I need to Gparted it
[16:51] <jubo2> the disk.. It contains some relic Kubuntu14.04LTS 40GB partition
[16:51] <jubo2> or is the KDE partition tool kewler than Gparted?
[16:52] <francis_> Hi! My Ktorrent app always lags. Is it a hardware problem?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> dunno why you don't use separate / and /home partitions, jubo2
[16:53] <BluesKaj> francis_, lags, how?
[16:54] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I use
[16:54] <jubo2> just not in 2014
[16:54] <francis_> Ktorrent always stops
[16:54] <jubo2> so I could just move the partition with dd or instead of mount-and-copy
[16:55] <jubo2> but that doesn't matter does it?
[16:55] <francis_> the app stops, downloading stops
[16:55] <francis_> it automatically resumes though
[16:56] <BluesKaj> `dd will copy, but make sure the of partition is almost the same size ..has to be a bit larger for safety's sake
[16:56] <jubo2> uh-oh.. KDE Partition Editor says about the NTFS: "0 Bytes used"
[16:56] <jubo2> that's not right
[16:56] <jubo2> I just checked it is using 78GB
[16:57] <BluesKaj> francis_, downloading is a function of the torrent sources, most likely not ktorrent itself
[16:58] <jubo2> hmmm...
[16:58] <jubo2> the Live CD has mounted /dev/sda6 as SWAP
[16:58] <jubo2> I don't want this. I want to get rid of those unused Linux partitions
[16:59] <francis_> but Ktorrent hangs quite a lot! I have used it before, it never did before!
[16:59] <jubo2> BluesKaj: Should I be worried / vary of resizing the NTFS disk with any of these tools that report 0 bytes used
[16:59] <BluesKaj> francis_, check your ktorrent internet and speed settings
[17:00] <jubo2> If I know I'm making it big enough to fit all the stuff there
[17:00] <jubo2> francis_: Some operators may throttle p2p network activity
[17:00] <BluesKaj> jubo2, not if you have lots of unused space
[17:00] <BluesKaj> on the ntfs partition
[17:00] <jubo2> It was packed
[17:01] <jubo2> I hit the unpack but cancelled it because it was taking forever
[17:01] <BluesKaj> unpack?
[17:01] <francis_> I'm afraid you really don't understand. the app itself stops. the APP oitself hangs!
[17:01] <francis_> the app itself!
[17:02] <jubo2> BluesKaj: uncompress
[17:02] <BluesKaj> francis_, do you mean it fails to load?
[17:02] <BluesKaj> jubo2, encrypted?
[17:03] <jubo2> BluesKaj: no, just compressed
[17:03] <francis_> It loads, it functions, but it STOPS!
[17:03] <francis_> it hangs!
[17:03] <BluesKaj> francis_, what stops?
[17:03] <francis_> maybe the word "hangs" is only on Windows, not on Linux
[17:03] <BluesKaj> it greys out ?
[17:04] <francis_> sometimes it greys out,
[17:04] <francis_> sometimes totally blank
[17:04] <BluesKaj> hangs means fails to load and start properly
[17:04] <francis_> okay, it loads but then suddenly stops. Only Ktorrent
[17:05] <BluesKaj> francis_, have you updated and upgraded your packages lately ?
[17:05] <francis_> Yes, it did
[17:06] <jubo2> BluesKaj: no install targets for ntfsprogs and ntfs-3g is already the latest version
[17:06] <jubo2> but still cannot resize that disk
[17:06] <BluesKaj> francis_, are you on a work or school network ?
[17:06] <jubo2> except grow it
[17:06] <jubo2> but I want to shrink it
[17:07] <francis_> home
[17:07] <jubo2> I guess I need to boot to Windows and run the uncompression till the end
[17:07] <francis_> i will restart
[17:07] <BluesKaj> jubo2, then shrink the 14.04 partition to make small enough to copy over withdd
[17:07] <francis_> if an extended test on HDD did not detect any error, then my drive has no bad sector?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> jubo2, don't get side tracked , bad sectors are auto skipped
[17:08] <jubo2> I reboot to Kubuntu with the USB hard drive and the to-be-shrunk NTFS in /dev/sda
[17:09] <BluesKaj> jubo2, no need for too many details
[17:09] <jubo2> mi irc logs need an exabyte of details
[18:34] <jubo2> "Ubi-partman failed with exit code 141"
[18:35] <jubo2> I'm trying to install Kubuntu on by the side of Windows
[18:35] <jubo2> I've put /-partition to end of disk, then SWAP and /home in the middle of the disk
[18:35] <jubo2> this way I can grow and shrink the NTFS and the EXT4 partitions as needed
[18:36] <jubo2> could this order have something to do with that ubi-partman failing?
[18:38] <jubo2> could the installation media be defective?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> jubo2, here are some suggestions  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/945027
[18:44] <jubo2> is there a limit how many raw partitions there can be?
[18:45] <jubo2> I'm looking at the situation in KDE Partition Manager
[18:45] <jubo2> and it put the swap and /home on an extended partition
[18:47] <jubo2> BluesKaj: Should I put all needed partitions into an Extended partition?
[18:47] <BluesKaj> jubo2, don't use the kde partition manager , it's buggy , install gparted , use that
[18:48] <jubo2> ok
[18:51] <svend-ev> Good morning
[18:51] <jubo2> g'morning svend-ev
[18:57] <jubo2> I get error from Gparted
[18:57] <jubo2> "mkfs.ext4 -L "" /dev/sda6" (error)
[19:01] <jubo2> is the disk broken?
[19:06] <jubo2> How do I check if the installation media is broken or if the target media is broken?
[19:10] <jubo2> Huhuu?
[19:10] <jubo2> Is there a way to check installation media for errors
[19:10] <jubo2> checksum calculation of some sorts
[19:21] <jubo2> I think that stick is faulty
[19:21] <jubo2> I try another stick
[19:34] <jubo2> yeah.. looks like the stick was faulty
[19:34] <BluesKaj> use dd to copy the iso to the usb stick, it's be bootable
[19:35] <BluesKaj> jubo2,^
[19:36] <BluesKaj> it will be bootable, that is
[19:36] <jubo2> BluesKaj: I did but the stick was faulty
[19:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:37] <jubo2> I copied it over an El Capitan installer now and problems are gone
[19:37] <jubo2> ok I did take an dd image of that before I destroyed it
[19:37] <jubo2> who knows how crappy that Cupertino software is
[19:37] <jubo2> maybe I need to isntall it again for mi mum
[19:43] <jubo2> yeah
[19:43] <jubo2> running glitchlessly now
[19:59] <jubo2> damn
[19:59] <jubo2> now I'm getting "Hash Sum Mismatched" running 'sudo apt update'
[19:59] <jubo2> 's bad
[20:02] <jubo2> I ixquick.com for it
[20:07] <jubo2> I didn't find any
[20:07] <jubo2> turned to googel
[20:08] <jubo2> I found advice saying to delete /var/apt/lists/* and run 'sudo apt update' to rebuild
[20:09] <jubo2> sounds legit
[20:10] <jubo2> sorry /var/lib/apt/lists/* I meant
[20:10] <jubo2> I was confusing those with sources.list
[20:11] <jubo2> it's gonna use the repos described in sources.list and rebuild /var/lib/apt/lists
[20:11] <jubo2> I must just say that this was the cleanest of clean installs after the faulty memory stick was discarded
[20:12] <jubo2> so it's kinda weird that I should have wrong checksums
[20:12] <jubo2> First thing I did was open a shell with the K-menu and type 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'
[20:13] <jubo2> the right thing to do when trying to get the cleanest of the clean installs
[20:13] <jubo2> I don't delete. I move dir
[20:15] <jubo2> done
[20:15] <jubo2> looks to be running fine the most useful computer tip ever: 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'
[20:16] <BluesKaj> jubo2, I'm surprised you didn't know that command
[20:16] <jubo2> Find the little black screen. Enter the commands with && in between them.
[20:17] <jubo2> "... and here in the K-menu you can find LibreOffice writer you gonna need"
[20:17] <jubo2> ok
[20:17] <jubo2> the system is the latest clean latest
[20:18] <jubo2> now I download from server the file where output of 'dpkg --get-selections > packages.list' is
[20:19] <jubo2> then run the command 'dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade'
[20:19] <jubo2> Then I copy everything over that /home dir from the old /home dir to get the configs I want
[20:19] <jubo2> not to mention the documents and pics
[20:20] <BluesKaj> so this has become your personal blog for installing kubuntu
[20:22] <shaun__> hi guys my /usr/local is only 239MB its entirely too small and now i cant install anything cause ive run out of space how do i increase the space
[20:22] <jubo2> it's the best
[20:22] <jubo2> shaun__: laptop or desktop?
[20:23] <jubo2> if you have a partition for /usr/local you must make it bigger
[20:23] <_shaun_> laptop. how do i go about it
[20:23] <jubo2> do you have many partitions or just one ?
[20:24] <_shaun_> i think a couple i cant remember how to check
[20:24] <jubo2> _shaun_: I'd get 2.5" migration kit with suitable size HDD or SSD
[20:25] <_shaun_> so theres no other way?
[20:25] <jubo2> Migration kit would include a 2.5" USB-to-SATA enclosure, the hard drive and a software you can use to move your partitions
[20:25] <BluesKaj> _shaun_, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[20:25] <jubo2> _shaun_: I was just about to suggest what BluesKaj said
[20:26] <_shaun_> my suspicion is pip is installng all its packages there
[20:26] <jubo2> but wouldn't have remembered the command
[20:26] <jubo2> _shaun_: SSD is no longer very expensive
[20:26] <jubo2> and it is faster
[20:27] <jubo2> I totally understand if people take a cheaper 1,000GB HDD then an expensive 512GB SSD
[20:27] <_shaun_> ok i understand, i probably need to figure out how to configure pip to install its stuff elsewhere
[20:28] <_shaun_> ok i need to take the ssd into consideration i wouldnt have thought of it before
[20:28] <jubo2> _shaun_: if you ever feel like changing your HDD for bigger and/or faster just get the kit. You could purchase the USB-to-SATA enclosure separately but you'll pay $20 for it
[20:29] <jubo2> _shaun_: with the kit of enclosure, bigger hard drive you can use the GNU/Linukka standard tools Gparted and dd to do the dirty work
[20:30] <jubo2> or use the supplied by disk maker of the kit
[20:30] <jubo2> _shaun_: with dd you can move the partitions to the new hard drive and with Gparted you can grow them
[20:31] <_shaun_> ok ill do enquiries at the local shops here thanks
[20:31] <BluesKaj> HDD for large data storage, SSD for everyday appd usage
[20:31] <_shaun_> so these partitions can mirate to and fro?
[20:31] <_shaun_> migrate
[20:33] <BluesKaj> !info dd
[20:36] <BluesKaj> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[20:42] <juboxi> trying to run 'sudo dpkg --set-selections < packages.2015-11-30.list'
[20:42] <juboxi> I get bunch of lines like 'dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 17: apache2'
[20:43] <juboxi> then at the end of the printout it puts
[20:44] <juboxi> '
[20:44] <juboxi> dpkg: warning: found unknown packages; this might mean the available database
[20:44] <juboxi> is outdated, and needs to be updated through a frontend method
[20:44] <juboxi> I don't get it why wouldn't the dpkg see package 'apache2'
[20:48] <juboxi> this would be simple if I knew what dpkg is and its relation to apt
[20:50] <lordievader> Dpkg is the package manager. Apt is merly used as a way to get the packages to the local system. Dpkg actually installs them and keeps track of what is installed.
[20:50] <juboxi> kewl.. thought so
[20:51] <juboxi> Debian PacKaGe management
[20:51] <juboxi> or something like that
[20:52] <lordievader> !info dpkg
[20:52] <lordievader> Yes.
[20:52] <juboxi> lordievader: there seems to be switches to do with setting and getting available info
[20:53] <juboxi> I don't get this.. Why would it not see that "apache2" is available
[20:53] <juboxi> I want it to rebuild its database of known available products
[20:55] <juboxi> what happens if I run 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail' ?
[20:55] <lordievader> The man page will likely tell you.
[20:58] <juboxi> mmm..
[20:58] <juboxi> installed dselect
[20:58] <juboxi> now gonna attempt to fix problem with 'sudo dselect update'
[21:03] <juboxi> oh yes
[21:03] <juboxi> 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' runs
[21:07] <heinkel_111> I have a machine I have set up as nfs server, and another as nfs client if I can call it that, it mounts a couple of directories exported from the server
[21:07] <heinkel_111> this usually works fine
[21:08] <heinkel_111> but sometimes my network connection drops and then everything freezes
[21:08] <heinkel_111> then I can issue a command to the server: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[21:08] <lordievader> heinkel_111: I guess you are using hard mounts, perhaps you need to consider using soft mounts.
[21:09] <heinkel_111> lordievader, thank for the hint, I am not an expert on this
[21:10] <lordievader> heinkel_111: https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8787
[21:10] <heinkel_111> in fact there are a lot of disciplines I do not consider myself an expert in ...
[21:11] <heinkel_111> lordievader: that problem description in the first sentence...it is that
[21:11] <heinkel_111> lordievader: thank you
[21:11] <lordievader> heinkel_111: What do you mean?
[21:12] <heinkel_111> "I have had the situation where I had been using an NFS server when something happened, the client lost connection with the server, and the entire system froze."
[21:13] <heinkel_111> it is written so I understand he is talking about precisely the same problem, even if the information is technically insufficent to confirm that :)
[21:13] <lordievader> Yes. But the actual reason I linked to it, is that it describes the differences between the two methods.
[21:13] <heinkel_111> which was what I neeeded, precisely, thank you
[21:13] <heinkel_111> +:)
[22:00] <nolsen> Is there a way to repair plasma?
[22:01] <nolsen> Because plasma is just constantly failing, killing it and executing it doesn't fix it.
[22:02] <nolsen> These dam segfault errors.
[22:46] <hay207> hi guys, when opening a file named in arabic language from dolphin, it won't open, but i open it instead from the video player
[22:46] <hay207> a media file
[22:49] <bprompt> hmmm w0t?
[22:52] <hay207> i can't open an arabic named  file  directly from dolphin
[23:00] <bprompt> hay207:  how about ... any other file manager?
[23:02] <hay207> give me a minute or two
[23:06] <hay207> bprompt: i tried rox-filler, works normally
[23:08] <hay207> any file, not just a media file, won't open directly from dolphin
[23:08] <hay207> named in arabic
[23:09] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:10] <bprompt> hay207:     ok... now ...hmm check rox-filler .desktop file, and dolphin's, they'd be at /usr/share/applications/rox.filler.desktop   and /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop , you might be missing quotes in the Exec= line I"d think, or something is missing from there, that's breaking out on the characters
[23:12] <bprompt> hay207:    mine reads    ->   Exec = dolphin %i -caption "%c"  %u   <---- keep in mind that, %u is the "selected file entries in the window"
[23:13] <hay207> Exec=dolphin %i -caption %c %u
[23:15] <hay207> rox has no desktop icon
[23:15] <bprompt> well, it does, it may just have a different name there
[23:16] <bprompt> window manager menus use it, as well as other menus
[23:16] <hay207> it has no menu item
[23:16] <hay207> i opened rox from terminal
[23:17] <bprompt> hay207:    try with -->  Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <---    you can override /usr/share/applications   .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so
[23:17] <bprompt> hay207:   hmmmm pretty sure it'd have one.... tis there somewhere...anyhow... try the edited dolphin's .desktop
[23:18] <bprompt> hay207:   try first with  "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u"
[23:21] <hay207> so i cp dolphin desktop file to ~/.local?
[23:21] <hay207> and try with %c only?
[23:21] <hay207> cp= copy and paste
[23:22] <bprompt> hay207:    try with -->  Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <---    you can override /usr/share/applications   .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so
[23:22] <bprompt> well, "cp' it, sure, or just drag/drop as well, and then edit the local .desktop
[23:25] <hay207> fails
[23:25] <hay207> let me explain the problem more
[23:26] <hay207> vlc shows error opening ???? <--
[23:29] <bprompt> hay207:    which means the %u isn't picking up the full filename
[23:29] <bprompt> hay207:   try first with  "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u"
[23:29] <hay207> just the arabic name
[23:32] <hay207> no luck
[23:33] <bprompt> hmm
[23:34] <bprompt> hay207:   do you have the dolphin in arabic language?
[23:34] <hay207> no
[23:34] <hay207> in english
[23:36] <hay207> i m installing konqueror
[23:38] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:38] <bprompt> k
[23:38] <hay207> same error :(
[23:38] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:39] <hay207> i will fill a bug
[23:39] <hay207> report
[23:41] <bprompt> hmm
[23:41] <bprompt> well
[23:41] <bprompt> hay207:     try adding the Arabic Language first, through -> System Settings > Locale > System Languages
[23:42] <hay207> when i add it, some UI elements change to arabic, and
[23:43] <hay207> i see a program in mixed english and arabic
[23:43] <hay207> :)
[23:47] <hay207> ok, thanks bpromptfor trying to help
[23:48] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:50] <bprompt> hay207:     was thinking, you can, once it's added, go to the same spot   System Settings > Locale > Country/Region & Language > Language <-- tab, to add the arabic language support for kde apps
[23:52] <hay207> As i said, if i added arabic language, i see some programs in mixed english and arabic
[23:54] <bprompt> hmmm
[23:55] <bprompt> well....the issue seems to be something with DCOP in kde apps only
[23:56] <bprompt> doesn't happen to rox-filler or the media player, likely because they're not using the kde dialog subroutine
[23:56] <bprompt> could be a bug, yes
[23:56] <hay207> ok
[23:58] <bprompt> !bug | hay207
[23:59] <bprompt> !cockroaches