[00:08] Generally, the LTS (14.04) and current (15.10) are available directly from kubuntu.org, and I would prefer either to 15.04, however ... [00:09] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.04/release/ === Giraffe__ is now known as Giraffe_ === Giraffe__ is now known as Giraffe_ === Suspiria is now known as suspirial === Uptime- is now known as Uptime === Guest28436 is now known as IdleOne === kubuntu is now known as Guest52963 [08:51] slt === dv__ is now known as dv_ [12:36] is systray broken in kde5 / kubuntu 15.10? application systray icons dont seem to appear anymore [12:38] dv_: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ [12:39] that should be an automatic trigger [12:40] hmm. okay [12:40] I had the issue with dropbox last time [12:41] yep that is one such app [13:39] Hey all === Guest72345 is now known as lordievader [15:40] Is there a command that will list all software installed with apt so I can just grab that and use that to 'sudo apt install...' on another system [15:41] I think I want once again to install clean [15:41] that or I want to move existing partitions to a bigger hard disk [15:41] dpkg -l, but you don't want to copy paste that list. [15:42] Manually installed dependencies won't be uninstalled by apt-get autoremove. [15:45] jubo2: You can try this: dpkg --get-selections > packages.list [15:45] ok [15:45] On another machine, you can install with this command [15:45] sudo dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade [15:46] It works for me. =) [15:48] Geowany: Thanks! Saved to ~/Documents/commands/ [15:49] I mean to get some useful command or list of commands on irc and not to make a recording of it in one way or another is just bad manners.. they come back for the same command when they've forgotten it and didn't save it in a retrievable place [15:51] like a cli-commands textfile, everyone should have one [15:52] mine's so old ai have to periodically edit it for commands the no longer apply [15:53] still had some aptitude commands the last tinme I edited [15:55] When commands are useful for others, I write at our blog of community local. But it is written in portuguese. === balloons_ is now known as balloons === rattking_ is now known as rattking [16:39] I want to reinstall clean Kubuntu15 with minimal hassle on this one 500GB disk [16:41] So I am thinking.. [16:42] get configuration from dpkg on old system [16:42] install Kubuntu [16:42] plug in old disk and transfer all of /home to the newly created /home partition via temporary mount [16:43] and then give the dpkg generated list to the apt to install all apt'able software [16:44] does this make sense? [16:51] I need to Gparted it [16:51] the disk.. It contains some relic Kubuntu14.04LTS 40GB partition [16:51] or is the KDE partition tool kewler than Gparted? [16:52] Hi! My Ktorrent app always lags. Is it a hardware problem? [16:52] dunno why you don't use separate / and /home partitions, jubo2 [16:53] francis_, lags, how? [16:54] BluesKaj: I use [16:54] just not in 2014 [16:54] Ktorrent always stops [16:54] so I could just move the partition with dd or instead of mount-and-copy [16:55] but that doesn't matter does it? [16:55] the app stops, downloading stops [16:55] it automatically resumes though [16:56] `dd will copy, but make sure the of partition is almost the same size ..has to be a bit larger for safety's sake [16:56] uh-oh.. KDE Partition Editor says about the NTFS: "0 Bytes used" [16:56] that's not right [16:56] I just checked it is using 78GB [16:57] francis_, downloading is a function of the torrent sources, most likely not ktorrent itself [16:58] hmmm... [16:58] the Live CD has mounted /dev/sda6 as SWAP [16:58] I don't want this. I want to get rid of those unused Linux partitions [16:59] but Ktorrent hangs quite a lot! I have used it before, it never did before! [16:59] BluesKaj: Should I be worried / vary of resizing the NTFS disk with any of these tools that report 0 bytes used [16:59] francis_, check your ktorrent internet and speed settings [17:00] If I know I'm making it big enough to fit all the stuff there [17:00] francis_: Some operators may throttle p2p network activity [17:00] jubo2, not if you have lots of unused space [17:00] on the ntfs partition [17:00] It was packed [17:01] I hit the unpack but cancelled it because it was taking forever [17:01] unpack? [17:01] I'm afraid you really don't understand. the app itself stops. the APP oitself hangs! [17:01] the app itself! [17:02] BluesKaj: uncompress [17:02] francis_, do you mean it fails to load? [17:02] jubo2, encrypted? [17:03] BluesKaj: no, just compressed [17:03] It loads, it functions, but it STOPS! [17:03] it hangs! [17:03] francis_, what stops? [17:03] maybe the word "hangs" is only on Windows, not on Linux [17:03] it greys out ? [17:04] sometimes it greys out, [17:04] sometimes totally blank [17:04] hangs means fails to load and start properly [17:04] okay, it loads but then suddenly stops. Only Ktorrent [17:05] francis_, have you updated and upgraded your packages lately ? [17:05] Yes, it did [17:06] BluesKaj: no install targets for ntfsprogs and ntfs-3g is already the latest version [17:06] but still cannot resize that disk [17:06] francis_, are you on a work or school network ? [17:06] except grow it [17:06] but I want to shrink it [17:07] home [17:07] I guess I need to boot to Windows and run the uncompression till the end [17:07] i will restart [17:07] jubo2, then shrink the 14.04 partition to make small enough to copy over withdd [17:07] if an extended test on HDD did not detect any error, then my drive has no bad sector? [17:08] jubo2, don't get side tracked , bad sectors are auto skipped [17:08] I reboot to Kubuntu with the USB hard drive and the to-be-shrunk NTFS in /dev/sda [17:09] jubo2, no need for too many details [17:09] mi irc logs need an exabyte of details [18:34] "Ubi-partman failed with exit code 141" [18:35] I'm trying to install Kubuntu on by the side of Windows [18:35] I've put /-partition to end of disk, then SWAP and /home in the middle of the disk [18:35] this way I can grow and shrink the NTFS and the EXT4 partitions as needed [18:36] could this order have something to do with that ubi-partman failing? [18:38] could the installation media be defective? === eddie is now known as Guest18944 [18:44] jubo2, here are some suggestions https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/945027 [18:44] Launchpad bug 945027 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "ubi-partman failed with exit code 141" [High,Fix released] [18:44] is there a limit how many raw partitions there can be? [18:45] I'm looking at the situation in KDE Partition Manager [18:45] and it put the swap and /home on an extended partition [18:47] BluesKaj: Should I put all needed partitions into an Extended partition? [18:47] jubo2, don't use the kde partition manager , it's buggy , install gparted , use that [18:48] ok [18:51] Good morning [18:51] g'morning svend-ev [18:57] I get error from Gparted [18:57] "mkfs.ext4 -L "" /dev/sda6" (error) [19:01] is the disk broken? === SaarTYR is now known as SaarTYR_on_Air [19:06] How do I check if the installation media is broken or if the target media is broken? [19:10] Huhuu? [19:10] Is there a way to check installation media for errors [19:10] checksum calculation of some sorts === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [19:21] I think that stick is faulty [19:21] I try another stick [19:34] yeah.. looks like the stick was faulty [19:34] use dd to copy the iso to the usb stick, it's be bootable [19:35] jubo2,^ [19:36] it will be bootable, that is [19:36] BluesKaj: I did but the stick was faulty [19:37] ok [19:37] I copied it over an El Capitan installer now and problems are gone [19:37] ok I did take an dd image of that before I destroyed it === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [19:37] who knows how crappy that Cupertino software is [19:37] maybe I need to isntall it again for mi mum [19:43] yeah [19:43] running glitchlessly now [19:59] damn [19:59] now I'm getting "Hash Sum Mismatched" running 'sudo apt update' [19:59] 's bad [20:02] I ixquick.com for it [20:07] I didn't find any [20:07] turned to googel [20:08] I found advice saying to delete /var/apt/lists/* and run 'sudo apt update' to rebuild [20:09] sounds legit [20:10] sorry /var/lib/apt/lists/* I meant [20:10] I was confusing those with sources.list [20:11] it's gonna use the repos described in sources.list and rebuild /var/lib/apt/lists [20:11] I must just say that this was the cleanest of clean installs after the faulty memory stick was discarded [20:12] so it's kinda weird that I should have wrong checksums [20:12] First thing I did was open a shell with the K-menu and type 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' [20:13] the right thing to do when trying to get the cleanest of the clean installs [20:13] I don't delete. I move dir [20:15] done [20:15] looks to be running fine the most useful computer tip ever: 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' [20:16] jubo2, I'm surprised you didn't know that command [20:16] Find the little black screen. Enter the commands with && in between them. [20:17] "... and here in the K-menu you can find LibreOffice writer you gonna need" [20:17] ok [20:17] the system is the latest clean latest [20:18] now I download from server the file where output of 'dpkg --get-selections > packages.list' is [20:19] then run the command 'dpkg --set-selections < /tmp/packages.list && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' [20:19] Then I copy everything over that /home dir from the old /home dir to get the configs I want [20:19] not to mention the documents and pics [20:20] so this has become your personal blog for installing kubuntu [20:22] hi guys my /usr/local is only 239MB its entirely too small and now i cant install anything cause ive run out of space how do i increase the space [20:22] it's the best [20:22] shaun__: laptop or desktop? [20:23] if you have a partition for /usr/local you must make it bigger === shaun__ is now known as _shaun_ [20:23] <_shaun_> laptop. how do i go about it [20:23] do you have many partitions or just one ? [20:24] <_shaun_> i think a couple i cant remember how to check [20:24] _shaun_: I'd get 2.5" migration kit with suitable size HDD or SSD [20:25] <_shaun_> so theres no other way? [20:25] Migration kit would include a 2.5" USB-to-SATA enclosure, the hard drive and a software you can use to move your partitions [20:25] _shaun_, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean [20:25] _shaun_: I was just about to suggest what BluesKaj said [20:26] <_shaun_> my suspicion is pip is installng all its packages there [20:26] but wouldn't have remembered the command [20:26] _shaun_: SSD is no longer very expensive [20:26] and it is faster [20:27] I totally understand if people take a cheaper 1,000GB HDD then an expensive 512GB SSD [20:27] <_shaun_> ok i understand, i probably need to figure out how to configure pip to install its stuff elsewhere [20:28] <_shaun_> ok i need to take the ssd into consideration i wouldnt have thought of it before [20:28] _shaun_: if you ever feel like changing your HDD for bigger and/or faster just get the kit. You could purchase the USB-to-SATA enclosure separately but you'll pay $20 for it [20:29] _shaun_: with the kit of enclosure, bigger hard drive you can use the GNU/Linukka standard tools Gparted and dd to do the dirty work [20:30] or use the supplied by disk maker of the kit [20:30] _shaun_: with dd you can move the partitions to the new hard drive and with Gparted you can grow them [20:31] <_shaun_> ok ill do enquiries at the local shops here thanks [20:31] HDD for large data storage, SSD for everyday appd usage [20:31] <_shaun_> so these partitions can mirate to and fro? [20:31] <_shaun_> migrate [20:33] !info dd [20:33] Package dd does not exist in wily [20:36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29 [20:42] trying to run 'sudo dpkg --set-selections < packages.2015-11-30.list' === sarah__ is now known as endrialdo [20:42] I get bunch of lines like 'dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 17: apache2' [20:43] then at the end of the printout it puts [20:44] ' [20:44] dpkg: warning: found unknown packages; this might mean the available database [20:44] is outdated, and needs to be updated through a frontend method [20:44] I don't get it why wouldn't the dpkg see package 'apache2' [20:48] this would be simple if I knew what dpkg is and its relation to apt [20:50] Dpkg is the package manager. Apt is merly used as a way to get the packages to the local system. Dpkg actually installs them and keeps track of what is installed. [20:50] kewl.. thought so [20:51] Debian PacKaGe management [20:51] or something like that [20:52] !info dpkg [20:52] dpkg (source: dpkg): Debian package management system. In component main, is required. Version 1.18.2ubuntu5.1 (wily), package size 2063 kB, installed size 6660 kB [20:52] Yes. [20:52] lordievader: there seems to be switches to do with setting and getting available info [20:53] I don't get this.. Why would it not see that "apache2" is available [20:53] I want it to rebuild its database of known available products [20:55] what happens if I run 'sudo dpkg --clear-avail' ? [20:55] The man page will likely tell you. [20:58] mmm.. [20:58] installed dselect [20:58] now gonna attempt to fix problem with 'sudo dselect update' [21:03] oh yes [21:03] 'sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade' runs [21:07] I have a machine I have set up as nfs server, and another as nfs client if I can call it that, it mounts a couple of directories exported from the server [21:07] this usually works fine [21:08] but sometimes my network connection drops and then everything freezes [21:08] then I can issue a command to the server: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart [21:08] heinkel_111: I guess you are using hard mounts, perhaps you need to consider using soft mounts. [21:09] lordievader, thank for the hint, I am not an expert on this [21:10] heinkel_111: https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8787 [21:10] in fact there are a lot of disciplines I do not consider myself an expert in ... [21:11] lordievader: that problem description in the first sentence...it is that [21:11] lordievader: thank you [21:11] heinkel_111: What do you mean? [21:12] "I have had the situation where I had been using an NFS server when something happened, the client lost connection with the server, and the entire system froze." [21:13] it is written so I understand he is talking about precisely the same problem, even if the information is technically insufficent to confirm that :) [21:13] Yes. But the actual reason I linked to it, is that it describes the differences between the two methods. [21:13] which was what I neeeded, precisely, thank you [21:13] +:) === vi is now known as vilevi === keithzg_ is now known as keithzg [22:00] Is there a way to repair plasma? [22:01] Because plasma is just constantly failing, killing it and executing it doesn't fix it. [22:02] These dam segfault errors. [22:46] hi guys, when opening a file named in arabic language from dolphin, it won't open, but i open it instead from the video player [22:46] a media file [22:49] hmmm w0t? [22:52] i can't open an arabic named file directly from dolphin [23:00] hay207: how about ... any other file manager? [23:02] give me a minute or two [23:06] bprompt: i tried rox-filler, works normally [23:08] any file, not just a media file, won't open directly from dolphin [23:08] named in arabic [23:09] hmmm [23:10] hay207: ok... now ...hmm check rox-filler .desktop file, and dolphin's, they'd be at /usr/share/applications/rox.filler.desktop and /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop , you might be missing quotes in the Exec= line I"d think, or something is missing from there, that's breaking out on the characters [23:12] hay207: mine reads -> Exec = dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <---- keep in mind that, %u is the "selected file entries in the window" [23:13] Exec=dolphin %i -caption %c %u [23:15] rox has no desktop icon [23:15] well, it does, it may just have a different name there [23:16] window manager menus use it, as well as other menus [23:16] it has no menu item [23:16] i opened rox from terminal [23:17] hay207: try with --> Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <--- you can override /usr/share/applications .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so [23:17] hay207: hmmmm pretty sure it'd have one.... tis there somewhere...anyhow... try the edited dolphin's .desktop [23:18] hay207: try first with "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u" [23:21] so i cp dolphin desktop file to ~/.local? [23:21] and try with %c only? [23:21] cp= copy and paste [23:22] hay207: try with --> Exec=dolphin %i -caption "%c" %u <--- you can override /usr/share/applications .desktop files by simply using your own at ~/.local/share/applications, so, copy over Dolphin's .desktop and edit it like so [23:22] well, "cp' it, sure, or just drag/drop as well, and then edit the local .desktop [23:25] fails [23:25] let me explain the problem more [23:26] vlc shows error opening ???? <-- [23:29] hay207: which means the %u isn't picking up the full filename [23:29] hay207: try first with "%c" only, if no dice, try then with "%c" "%u" [23:29] just the arabic name [23:32] no luck [23:33] hmm [23:34] hay207: do you have the dolphin in arabic language? [23:34] no [23:34] in english [23:36] i m installing konqueror [23:38] hmmm [23:38] k [23:38] same error :( [23:38] hmmm [23:39] i will fill a bug [23:39] report [23:41] hmm [23:41] well [23:41] hay207: try adding the Arabic Language first, through -> System Settings > Locale > System Languages [23:42] when i add it, some UI elements change to arabic, and [23:43] i see a program in mixed english and arabic [23:43] :) [23:47] ok, thanks bpromptfor trying to help [23:48] hmmm [23:50] hay207: was thinking, you can, once it's added, go to the same spot System Settings > Locale > Country/Region & Language > Language <-- tab, to add the arabic language support for kde apps [23:52] As i said, if i added arabic language, i see some programs in mixed english and arabic [23:54] hmmm [23:55] well....the issue seems to be something with DCOP in kde apps only [23:56] doesn't happen to rox-filler or the media player, likely because they're not using the kde dialog subroutine [23:56] could be a bug, yes [23:56] ok [23:58] !bug | hay207 [23:58] hay207: If you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers. [23:59] !cockroaches