[00:06] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[00:06] <lotuspsychje> * Connecting to barjavel.freenode.net (195.154.200.232:6667)
[00:06] <lotuspsychje> freenode under attack
[00:10] <daftykins> g'morn o/
[00:10] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[00:10] <daftykins> yeah it's been netsplitting goodness all night
[00:11] <lotuspsychje> they getting ddossed
[00:12] <daftykins> yip
[00:16] <lotuspsychje> oh oh hexchat lag
[00:19] <daftykins> i'll switch to morse code!
[00:19] <daftykins> ...
[00:19] <lotuspsychje> :p
[00:19] <lotuspsychje> _ _ _ ... _ _ _
[00:20] <daftykins> is that SOS ;D
[00:20] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[00:20] <daftykins> \o/
[00:21] <lotuspsychje> lol their getting wild in #freenode
[00:24] <daftykins> trolled?
[00:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[11:37] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, you are *late*
[11:37] <OerHeks> :-D
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> hexchat lag still dancing on the rythm of ddos
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> anyone got a stable ircd leaf without ddos?
[11:41] <OerHeks> currently that ddos is still going
[11:42] <OerHeks> so it is easy in #ubuntu :-D
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: i was here @ 1h00 this night lol
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> you are late!
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/popcorn-time-app-is-back-now-made-by-developers-from-around-the-world-496892.shtml
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> grmbl
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> your server stable? card.freenode.net?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> or also lags?
[11:46] <OerHeks> pretty stable here..
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> lemme try it
[11:47] <OerHeks> carefull with that popcorn thingy, even with vpn ...
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: they hunt it down?
[11:47] <OerHeks> Sure, i dropped it in april.
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[12:00] <TJ-> morning :)
[12:00] <OerHeks> :-)
[12:56] <TJ-> looks like pikapi is up to their usual breakage tricks again
[13:05] <cfhowlett> TJ-, he's invisible to me: hexchat /ignore is WONDERRFUL.
[13:07] <TJ-> haha I actually get a perverse pleasure in seeing how 1 person can break things in so many ways... and not realise its their fault!
[13:07] <TJ-> cfhowlett: oooo... I got that mobo to speak to me! It doesn't drive the motherboard speaker as I had expected, it drives the 'front' audio output ... currently says either (in a strident voice!) "CPU is missing" or "CPU failed self-test"
[13:08] <cfhowlett> that sounds SO cool!  put that on a host so I can hear it??
[13:08] <cfhowlett> mediagoblin.org
[13:09] <JanC> motherboard speakers are so 1980s  :P
[13:11]  * TJ- drops a sub-woofer in JanC's coffee
[13:12] <TJ-> cfhowlett: I'm going to do that later in the week. It helped me confirm the CPU was dead, not the mobo, so waiting for a replacement CPU then I'm hoping I can find, or write, Linux tools to program the WinBond chip with new messages
[13:12] <JanC> (more recent motherboards only come with a piezo buzzer instead of a real loudspeaker)
[13:13] <TJ-> I've spent part of the weekend using gEDA to draw the AMD K8 power control circuitry to figure it all out
[13:13] <cfhowlett> TJ-, if you succeed you MUST do a write up.  Hell, customized bios messages?  I would LOVE to play with that!
[13:13] <TJ-> Yeah, this board has a silk-screen for one but it isn't fitted
[13:13] <TJ-> cfhowlett: this isn't even in BIOS, the WinBond chip operates independently apparently.
[13:13] <cfhowlett> even beter
[13:14] <cfhowlett> better
[13:14] <TJ-> cfhowlett: obviously, since the BIOS code is executed by the CPU!
[13:14] <JanC> what architecture is that winbond chip?
[13:15] <TJ-> cfhowlett: that's why I want to set this up to confuse techies but having the mobo talk to them (with my customised recordings - 8-bit, 22kHz) without a CPU onboard, and ask them to find the hidden CPU :)
[13:16] <JanC> I know often Winbond chips are/were part of the chipset
[13:17] <JanC> I/O controllers & such
[13:20] <TJ-> see https://iam.tj/projects/misc/Winbond%20W83697HF.pdf
[13:20] <JanC> apparently they mostly make RAM & Flash nowadays?
[13:21] <JanC> "Forbidden"  :)
[13:21] <TJ-> lol did I upload as the wrong user?
[13:22] <TJ-> try now
[13:22] <TJ-> it only have u+r for some reason
[13:23]  * TJ- hides from motaka2 ... the session from hell on Saturday!
[13:24] <JanC> http://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-users-considering-class-action-lawsuit-against-microsoft-for-poor-system-performance-496880.shtml
[13:24] <JanC> """Plus, as far as the unauthorized access by Microsoft is concerned, the company has already explained that it doesn’t collect more than error information and app crash data, so no personal details are being sent from your computer."""
[13:24] <TJ-> JanC: I'm not 100% sure how the 'talking' is done, the Asus manual says its something to do with the Winbond chip, but I think there must be something else. It also says/illustrate Windows software to reprogram the sound files
[13:24] <JanC> journalists not aware that crash data often contains personal data?  :P
[13:25] <TJ-> haha 'poor system performance' - so don't install crap on top of the OS!
[13:25] <JanC> TJ-: automatic updates
[13:26] <JanC> ah, like I thought it's a Winbond Super I/O chip
[13:26] <TJ-> JanC: right, but I've not yet seen a vanilla Windows OS system that suffers if it is kept with just the MS updaets to the OS. The problems usually develop when the users being installing various bloatware applications
[13:27] <JanC> well, if that hardware is old enough, Windows 10 is bloatware
[13:28] <TJ-> This motherboard includes the Winbond speech controller to support a
[13:28] <TJ-> special feature called the ASUS POST ReporterTM. This feature gives you
[13:28] <TJ-> vocal POST messages and alerts to inform you of system events and boot
[13:28] <TJ-> status. In case of a boot failure, you will hear the specific cause of the
[13:28] <TJ-> problem.
[13:28] <TJ-> It comes with software called "Winbond Voice Editor"
[13:29] <JanC> that Winbond chip does a lot more than just speech  :)
[13:30] <TJ-> well obviously :)
[13:38] <JanC> really funny how half of the functionality of that chip was obsolete for a decade when that chip was made...
[13:38] <JanC> like the tape drive controller  :P
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:45] <TJ-> I think the 'voice' support is in the custom 'Asus AS018 Deluxe', or the GPIO+Flash support of the Winbond chip is used
[13:54] <JanC> normally the "beeper" speaker/buzzer is attached to the Winbond, so it's likely involved, but it seems like some other chip would have to steer it
[13:59] <TJ-> Oh! the wronh ship! there's another much smaller one, W83791SD that does the speech. Didn't notice it skulking away at the back of the board with an unclear label
[14:01] <TJ-> https://iam.tj/projects/misc/Winbond%20W83791SD.pdf
[14:02] <TJ-> it can handle 133 different events; I'm going to be having a LOT of fun with this
[14:04] <TJ-> OK, and it uses an external - DIP8 socketed - serial flash memory. Fab!
[14:06] <TJ-> That means I can externall read and program it. Get some of those and keep the original untouched, and write the digitised sound into the new chips
[14:07] <TJ-> The installed chip is a 10A - that's 1Mbit
[14:13] <TJ-> Hmm, I'm seriously considering this mobo as the core of the monitoring system, seeing as it is active on +5VSB
[14:15] <JanC> TJ-: so the actual voice programming is just writing to the EEPROM that should be close to the W83791SD?
[14:15] <JanC> you could probably connect that chip & the EEPROM to an Arduino or something too (if you can unsolder them)  :)
[14:20] <TJ-> haha maybe, but I am recommissioning this old mobo because it has a good mix of older disk controllers, so it can replace 2 others. These are kept to enable recreation of original hardware configurations for difficult disk forensics or recovery
[14:21] <TJ-> JanC: once I looked in the correct area of the mobo it all became clear :) I've been focused on drawing a schematic of the K8 power sequencing circuitry so hadn't given this 'fun' side much attention
[14:24] <TJ-> The serial Flash is on the IIC bus, so shouldn't be too difficult to create tools for it, if they don't alreayd exist
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> nasty lags
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol that motaka guy has been wining for days when youl be online :p
[15:10] <TJ-> From what I could tell the problems stem from trying and aborting a 12.04>14.04 upgrade
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: he showed me his grub previous kernels, he got 300
[15:11] <TJ-> I spent about 6, maybe 8, hours Saturday just getting him to have a remote PuTTY SSH link from a Vista PC, to enable collecting the logs
[15:11] <TJ-> 300!?!?
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> yes
[15:11]  * TJ- falls off the chair
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> and he tested few of them, none boot into his system
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> he refuses to clean install lol
[15:12] <TJ-> Right. That's the last thing I said if trying to fix the broken upgrade with 'apt-get dist-upgrade' doesn't work
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> mixxed previous kernels with 3.2.. and pae
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> he totaly borked his system
[15:14] <TJ-> My problem was as soon as I gave support he stopped thinking for himself, I was pretty sure he was just sat there staring at the screen and waiting to be told everything
[15:14] <BluesKaj> should have had a separate /home partition
[15:14] <TJ-> He's in Iran, so I think there are some issues with censorship, HTTP proxy interceptions maybe
[15:16] <lotuspsychje>  <motaka2> lotuspsychje:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hlyu24or7uib64/IMG_20151129_132848.jpg?dl=0
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yeah, I ponted a Iran user to PIA vpn ..he couldn't beleive how inexpensive it is
[15:18] <BluesKaj> an Iranian iuser, even
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok it looks like the DDOS attacks are over for now, bbl
[15:20] <TJ-> BluesKaj sounds disappointed :D
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> i thought freenode would be handling this more professional
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> somebody must be really angry
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ok , konverstaion finally connects from Xenial
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: cool :p
[15:29] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, guess the DDOS attacka were preventing our servers here from connecting so i added a couple euro servers to my list
[15:29] <BluesKaj> and kornbluth connected, finally
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> i cant connect card.freenode.net
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> im on barjavel france
[15:30] <TJ-> if you use irc.freenode.net DNS will round-robin the server
[15:31] <BluesKaj> yeah , I used to use irc.freenode, but switched to NA servers, but it's so long ago I've forgotten why :-)
[15:32] <lotuspsychje_> ok on wolfe now
[15:32] <BluesKaj> card worked here
[15:36] <lotuspsychje_> seems like roundrobin is filling joins again
[15:39] <BluesKaj> ok, added irc.freenode.net to the bottom of the server list
[15:39] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[15:39] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:41] <BluesKaj> now I recall why I switched ...some servers were very laggy, so I added servers that  were under 100ms  from my location
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> ah ic
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> 0sec lag now
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> seems ddos is over
[15:42] <BluesKaj> yeah I have 30ms lag with card
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ms=millisecs
[15:42] <BluesKaj> thousands of a second
[15:44] <BluesKaj> it's a decent connection
[15:45] <BluesKaj> using a vpn slows it down somewhat, but it's still quite good at 250ms or 1/4th of a second or so
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> lol TJ- you cant hide!
[16:04] <JanC> I don't think irc.freenode.net is simple round-robin?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> yes
[16:07] <Pici> its just a bunch of cnames
[16:07] <TJ-> it is round-robin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13578022/
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> my irc was constantly de- and reconnecting, then lagging, just now
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: freenode had ddos attack
[16:11] <TJ-> I think we should rename that now, after all it's 20 years since DOS. It's now officially to be known as "DWinLoss"
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> ddos, exciting!
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> i want a ddos attack for xmas
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: and where have you been the last few hours!!!....
[16:13] <BluesKaj> and I'm trying to keep up with my Windows user friends, upgraded W7 to 10, but I"m confiicted by it :-)
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> the privacy nightmare will continue
[16:14]  * TJ- wraps a 5.25" DR-DOS floppy and puts it under lotuspsychje's christmas tree
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> lol lol
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: throws back an amiga500
[16:15] <TJ-> Oooo yeah, I did some fab machine-code programming on the old amiga
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> ok and now i have to go to the dentist, another nightmare
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> cya guys in a bit :p
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: ill ask santa on my way out ok!
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> what got Motaka2's system in that state?
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> he's been struggling for days now
[17:11] <BluesKaj> refuses to do a clean install and has no clue how to back up his data ?
[17:15] <TJ-> seems to be an aborted 12.04 > 14.04 release-upgrade
[17:19] <EriC^^> how's it going with motaka
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> bacon and eggs, at ease, as always
[17:38] <BluesKaj> looks like the ddos attacks are back up... card wenr down
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> good evening
[19:04] <GrizzlyKolsch> lotuspsychje, hi
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> hi GrizzlyKolsch
[19:05] <GrizzlyKolsch> lotuspsychje, how goes it?
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx GrizzlyKolsch
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/libreoffice-now-has-more-than-1-million-of-active-users-496910.shtml
[19:16] <DJones> lotuspsychje: sokoll has already been banned from #httpd
[19:17] <DJones> As complained about in #freenode
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> DJones: oh tnx for letting us know
[19:17] <DJones> No worries
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> DJones: his question doesnt look very specicious here though?
[19:20] <DJones> No, not sure why they got banned
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> ok, as long as he keeps polite here :p
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> good evening EriC^^ and pauljw
[19:47] <EriC^^> evening lotuspsychje
[19:48] <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje  :)
[19:48] <EriC^^> guess what, i fixed my iphone's wifi recently
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> nice!
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you open the device?
[19:48] <EriC^^> it was grayed out, it's a bug in the iphone
[19:49] <EriC^^> nope, i tried something from youtube, you get a hairdryer and put it on the top part until the phone says "warning temperature very high you must turn off the phone to use it"
[19:49] <pauljw> brb...
[19:49] <EriC^^> then you turn it off and put it in the fridge for 5-10mins, turn it back on, and ta-da! it works!
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:50] <EriC^^> i was a little skeptical at first, but everyone was saying it worked, so i went for it :D
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> im not gonna put my bq 4.5 in the fridge :p
[19:50] <EriC^^> well, refrigerator :P
[19:55] <EriC^^> i found a 0day (by now like a 40-60day :P) on youtube, for ubuntu 14.04.2
[19:55] <EriC^^> easy root access from any user, it's a bug in fusermount
[19:56] <EriC^^> i tried it on a vm, it works!
[19:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: is there no USB for it?
[20:00] <EriC^^> TJ-: what do you mean?
[20:00] <EriC^^> the iphone?
[20:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: sorry, I meant to type "is there no USN for it?"
[20:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: Ubuntu Security Notice
[20:00] <EriC^^> the cve number?
[20:00] <EriC^^> hmm i think so, i checked 14.04.3 and it has a newer version and it doesn't work
[20:00] <EriC^^> holdon
[20:01] <EriC^^> http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/05/21/9
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> wb MonkeyDust
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> does somemone remember my password?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> erm
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> :p
[20:17] <pauljw> :)
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> think it was ddos666
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> great, tnx
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> active night after ddos :p
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: you can shutdown your botnet now :p
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i told him to put lubuntu on his laptop to speed things, and backup his data to there
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> but his laptop has broken usb and dvd lol
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> motaka
[20:34] <TJ-> really?
[20:34] <TJ-> this is the laptop with Vista + PuTTY on
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> not sure
[20:35] <TJ-> I know it took about 3 hours to get PuTTY installed and working
[20:35] <TJ-> most of the problem being he failed to install openssh-server as instructed in the beginning, and then was reporting connection refused messages!
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:42] <Pici> o.O
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> Pici: this guy has been asking for whole week now :p
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[20:46] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje my connections drops after I disconnect the vpn server, but it autoconnects after 3 minutes
[20:46] <BluesKaj> on konversation
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: to freenode?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> weird
[20:50] <BluesKaj> not really, i"m connected the web and irc thru the vpn server if I choose to use it , otherwise it's just an ordinary ISP connection
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> kk
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> nite nite
[22:12] <pauljw> dinner-time, bbl...
[22:54] <daftykins> always the way, ask two questions - only get one response
[23:14] <DosTuMai> !song
[23:14] <DosTuMai> Oops. Sorry, wrong channel. >_>
[23:22] <daftykins> it should be the right channel!
[23:22] <daftykins> we'll get lotus back in the morning to sing
[23:24]  * OerHeks plays airguitar
[23:25] <daftykins> :D
[23:26]  * daftykins air drums
[23:29] <TJ-> I'm sorry, you need an OTA update to drums v2.01-beta3
[23:30]  * OerHeks downloads a double-airguitar patch from piratebay
[23:31]  * daftykins works out how to SSH into his air drums
[23:31] <TJ-> uhoh, was that symbals v0.99-rc2 I heard crashing there?
[23:31]  * OerHeks hands a displayport cable to daftykins 
[23:32]  * daftykins chuckles