[00:03] <daftykins> hey it's monday morning! my arrays are verifying!
[00:03] <diddledan> \o/
[00:03] <penguin42> daftykins: Shouldn't you go to sleep now so you don't hear them scream?
[00:04] <daftykins> =]
[00:04] <diddledan> what do you drive them with?
[00:04] <diddledan> standard linux mdraid?
[00:05] <daftykins> hell no, 3ware cards
[00:05] <diddledan> aah
[00:05] <diddledan> hardware raid ftw?
[00:05] <daftykins> the way i figure it, would i rather be digging through logs when the proverbial hits the fan, or seeing things handled nicely? :D
[00:06] <diddledan> lol
[00:08] <daftykins> also, you can keep so much more a cooler head when dealing with someone elses data than your own
[00:08] <penguin42> 3ware normally does work nicely
[00:08] <daftykins> mine are pretty ancient now, but they're lovely
[00:08] <penguin42> but I haven't had to build big raids for quite a few years now, and it's so common to get 6 SATA ports on board now
[00:08] <daftykins> 9650SEs, mine has 12 ports... clients has 16
[00:09] <daftykins> 6 x 2TB RAID5 here, 8 x 4TB RAID6 there
[00:48] <penguin42> is www.bbc.co.uk dead for others as well?
[00:50] <zmoylan-1i> connecting...
[00:52] <zmoylan-pi> and finally... loaded
[00:52] <penguin42> still taking it's time here
[00:57] <daftykins> yep struggling
[00:57] <daftykins> maybe it's all the freenode DoS traffic :P
[00:58] <penguin42> or telehouse trying to fix their power again
[01:01] <zmoylan-pi> or they switched their servers to 10 rasp pi zeros that came on magazine covers last week in reception...
[01:02] <penguin42> haha
[01:19] <penguin42> ooh, now it's moved to having the beeb 500 page - the nice one with the testpage
[01:56] <diddledan_> good video from john oliver : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGY6DqB1HX8
[01:56] <diddledan_> about mental health programs in americy
[01:57] <diddledan_> also, https://node-os.com/ ??
[01:58] <penguin42> noh god, js took over the world....
[02:28] <diddledan_> damned DDoS
[02:29] <diddledan_> poor freenode is really suffering the last couple days
[02:33] <penguin42> yeh
[02:34] <penguin42> beebs website still seems to be borked
[02:34] <diddledan_> beeb been down?
[02:34] <penguin42> is for me
[02:36] <diddledan_> seems ok heer
[02:36] <diddledan_> here
[02:36] <penguin42> diddledan_: I'm getting either a connection reset, or just a hang
[02:37] <diddledan_> for the homepage it gave an error momentarily before chrome reloaded it and got the correct page
[02:37] <diddledan_> if I wasn't paying attention I'd not have seen the error at all
[02:37] <penguin42> curious
[02:39] <penguin42> still broken on my other PC
[02:40] <penguin42> and bytemark
[03:17]  * zmoylan-pi watches christina hendricks get married to captain mal...
[03:19] <diddledan_> who?
[03:19] <diddledan_> and who?
[03:19] <zmoylan-pi> go watch firefly
[03:19] <diddledan_> aah
[03:19] <diddledan_> I decided not to bother with that
[03:19] <zmoylan-pi> it is worth it
[03:20] <diddledan_> it was cancelled before I even started to watch it so I figured the stories would be left hanging so would be unsatisfying
[03:20] <zmoylan-pi> i felt the same way till i a gaming group i was in decided to watch an episode while we waited for a late arrival
[03:22] <zmoylan-pi> great show with great potential.  and still has a huge fanbase with 14 episodes and 1 movie
[03:28] <zmoylan-pi> lots of lag your way diddledan_ ?
[03:28] <diddledan_> it's freenode
[03:29] <diddledan_> under a DDoS according to reports
[03:29] <zmoylan-pi> was only you this time so might not be ddos
[03:29] <diddledan_> hmm
[03:29] <diddledan_> I suck
[03:57]  * zmoylan-pi puts on an episode of red dwarf with dwayne dibley... :-)
[04:01] <diddledan_> no, not dwayne dibley. I don't wanna be dwayne dibley!
[04:05] <diddledan_> time for a nap methinks
[07:55] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:25] <MooDoo> morning
[08:31] <zmoylan-pi> hmm not net splits but some sort sort of attack it would seem
[08:32] <Myrtti> ddos since Thursday, with intermittent sunny patches
[08:32] <Myrtti> then it all goes downhill again
[08:32] <zmoylan-pi> and a chance of lag
[08:33] <zmoylan-pi> i keep getting error messages that freenode is full
[08:33] <Myrtti> yeah...
[08:34] <pwaring> lag has gone away for me now, it was terrible yesterday though
[08:35] <zmoylan-pi> not as much lag for me today but still got bounced and couldn't reconnnect this morning
[08:36] <Myrtti> ever so sorry 😕 :-(
[08:40] <MooDoo> no lag for me, and no need to apologise myrtti, it's not your fault is it :)
[08:41] <Myrtti> well I feel responsible as member of the staff. It sucks when the skids decide to ruin things
[08:42] <zmoylan-pi> definitely no need to apologise.  i just see it as opportunity to learn more about irssi to make it get past the errors quicker :-)
[08:43] <zmoylan-pi> AND/OR find the eejits doing this and introduce them to the concept of annoyances...
[08:46] <MooDoo> zmoylan-pi: concept of annoyances = baseball bat :
[08:46] <MooDoo> :D
[08:47] <zmoylan-pi> that would be culturally inappropriate.... i'm not american... i prefer a hammer... :-P
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:11] <czajkowski> Aloha
[09:13] <davmor2> czajkowski: congrats by the way for getting on the board
[09:14] <czajkowski> davmor2: thank you
[09:14] <czajkowski> davmor2: how's life?
[09:15] <davmor2> czajkowski: busier than ever, but good thanks, oh and missing the caravan, you?
[09:19] <MooDoo> davmor2: I've not been to ours in yonks, must make an effort to get to bakewell more next yeat.
[09:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: I thought it was your dads?
[09:22] <czajkowski> davmor2: back afrter 4 days off so in my happy bubble
[09:22] <davmor2> MooDoo: we went every weekend because we got a seasonal pitch
[09:27] <MooDoo> davmor2: father in laws, but we didn't go much this year
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> wasn't caravaning weather this year
[09:29] <MooDoo> it's a static, so isn't too bad in the rain
[09:30] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: there is no such thing as caravanning weather it's a home on wheels, when it rains you stay in like you do at home :P
[09:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: Mine isn't but It is getting big enough to be :)
[09:32] <MooDoo> it's bakewell, it's a lovely break :)
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> and hope someone brought the travel scrabble and the scrabble...
[09:35] <davmor2> MooDoo: we got a seasonal at Ebury Hill it's like a 40 minute drive away but it is so peaceful :)
[09:37] <davmor2> MooDoo: it's nice because you feel refreshed after a weekend away :)
[09:42] <MooDoo> definately, nothing like a full english on the verander in the sunshine :)
[09:42] <bashrc_> decadence!
[09:44] <davmor2> bashrc_: I think you mean Luxury! then you burst into when I were lad you had no sunshine you were up before the sun and home after it were gone
[09:46]  * bashrc_ resets days since four yorkshiremen sketch counter
[09:48]  * davmor2 tries to break bashrc_ counter, When I were a Lad you had no counters if the number were bigger than the number of fingers you could count it anyway
[09:48] <davmor2> s/could/couldn't
[10:04] <zmoylan-pi> hmmm, listening to radio item about sales of sonic hedgehog games and megadrives been on the up...
[10:06] <SuperMatt> yes, I heard about that
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> i was never into sega but might be worth a look
[10:08] <SuperMatt> tbh, I have sonic on steam, don't need a megadrive to play it
[10:22] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Computer Security Day! 😃
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> it is the day after the nsa promised to stop one of their spying programs...
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> promise this time they mean it... ::wink wink::
[10:24] <davmor2> JamesTait: I give you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07cflKCl-Y
[10:34] <davmor2> JamesTait: I think that is a good enough reason to want security right :)
[10:37] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's not my usual thing, but I'm not disliking it. 😉
[10:45] <MooDoo> yay hackers
[10:45] <MooDoo> lol "nsa: yes we'll stop" lol ha ha ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[10:47] <zmoylan-pi> the soundtrack is the reason i bought the dvd, honest guv... :-)
[10:48] <zmoylan-pi> it's my 3rd favourite hacker movie...
[10:48] <zmoylan-pi> been so bad it's good sorta thing
[10:57] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: yeah right Angelina Jolie had nothing to do with it honest gov'nor
[10:58] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: sneakers and swordfish are they in there?
[10:58] <zmoylan-pi> i fancied her risc laptop more :-)
[10:58] <zmoylan-pi> #2 sneakers.  never seen swordfish but have heard enough not to be bothered...
[11:00] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: Swordfish isn't that bad if you just treat it like all standard hollywood spy/thriller/action/hacker films you know complete fabrications
[11:01] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: what's number 1 then
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> you won't have seen it, it turns up everytime there's a big discussion on hacker movies. it has no computers... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091464/
[11:02] <zmoylan-pi> if you watch it you'll 1) agree it is a hacker movie 2) has an awesome soundtrack 3) laugh out loud
[11:03] <MooDoo> sneakers is great - no more secrets :)
[11:04] <zmoylan-pi> seetec astronomy
[11:04] <MooDoo> :)
[11:04] <zmoylan-pi> it's a wonderful movie but still only #2 on my hackers movie list
[11:04] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: looks more like D.A.R.Y.L
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> watch it and then tell me i'm wrong :-)
[11:05] <MooDoo> I like hackers, sneakers, antitrust
[11:05] <zmoylan-pi> i think i have anti trust on dvd, it was ok
[11:05] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: you're wrong, fullstop but I'll try and see it :)
[11:06] <davmor2> MooDoo: anitrust is just hackers 3 which makes me wonder why I haven't seen hackers 2 :)
[11:06] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: ex-mechina is good
[11:21] <awilkins> I love that movie! The whole car-that-splits-in-two-for-greater-backstreet-agility thing is ace
[11:21] <zmoylan-pi> shhhh!!!! spoliers!!!!
[11:22] <awilkins> There's a picture of it on the IMDB page.
[11:22] <zmoylan-pi> i know, but shhhhh
[11:22] <zmoylan-pi> and not done in cgi either...
[11:55] <davmor2> awilkins: Condorman did that too, and in bond it had a horse that turned into a plane :P
[11:56] <MooDoo> blimey condorman, that's a blast from the past :D
[11:56] <foobarry> dr who. can i discuss an issue
[11:56] <foobarry> condorman was the first film we had on vhs
[11:57] <MooDoo> foobarry: you have an issue with dr who?
[11:57] <zmoylan-pi> first film i had on vhs was life of brian. an illegal copy as it was banned in ireland...
[11:57] <foobarry> 2 billion years of skulls.
[11:57] <foobarry> probably 100 billion skulls
[11:57] <awilkins> davmor2, To be fair, it was just a horses ass that turned into a plane
[11:57] <foobarry> i think the castle would no longer be there
[11:57] <davmor2> MooDoo: I remember every film I ever watched it's worrying
[11:57] <MooDoo> davmor2: you're watching classics :)
[11:58] <foobarry> just covered in skulls
[11:58] <foobarry> no sea
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> the first film i stopped watching it was so bad... lost in space
[11:58] <MooDoo> it's gallifray, bigger on the inside tech :)
[11:58] <davmor2> MooDoo: No I remember condorman from the cinema it was that long ago
[11:59] <MooDoo> first film i saw at the cinema was the last starfighter :D
[12:11] <davmor2> MooDoo: first film I saw at the Cinema was Starwars Episode v my Mom is a Harrisonford fan, so indiana jones, starwars, blade runner all at the cinema
[12:14] <zmoylan-pi> the first film i saw in cinema was darby o'gill and the little people in very early 1970s
[12:31] <MooDoo> :)
[12:38] <foobarry> my first film was empire strikes back
[12:38] <foobarry> i was 5.
[12:39] <foobarry> this chrimstas i will be taking my son for the first time. he is 5.
[12:39] <foobarry> the film? STAR WARS
[12:39] <foobarry> the circle is complete
[12:47] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: man you're old
[12:48] <davmor2> foobarry: as long as he stays on the side of jedi's it's fine
[12:50] <foobarry> i did
[13:01] <davmor2> foobarry: That way leads to the darkside it does, full of windows and apples it is, no need for weapons, just a usb stick with ubuntu on it
[13:09] <zmoylan-pi> if i had to peg an os for yoda i'd put him down as an os/2 user :-)
[13:10] <awilkins> An elegant weapon, from a more civilized age
[13:11] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: No os/2 is more a captain kirk/scotty thing what with all that warp
[13:12] <awilkins> Yoda is all about commands that have a --force option
[13:12] <zmoylan-pi> and klingon and ferengi versions
[13:12] <penguin42> forth yoda is
[13:13]  * davmor2 is waiting for the starbucks and costa use the froth cups on starwars release
[13:14] <penguin42> ouch
[13:14] <zmoylan-pi> it'll be star wars on everything for months in a few weeks
[13:15] <davmor2> penguin42: don't act like it won't happen ;)
[13:15]  * penguin42 sighs
[13:17] <davmor2> penguin42: it'll be may the froth be with you, or use the froth, guaranteed
[13:18] <penguin42> davmor2: You should register the domain now
[13:25] <andylockran> afternoon peeps
[13:33] <diddledan_> https://grahamcluley.com/2015/11/hello-barbie-brings-smiles-kids-nightmares-privacy-advocates/
[13:35] <zmoylan-pi> helping kids get used to the idea of no privacy
[13:37] <awilkins> Slashdot ran an article about people haxx0ring them to spy on your kids
[13:38] <awilkins> Totally missing the point that THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE FOR
[14:25] <mapps> yay
[14:25] <mapps> got my router user/pass
[14:25] <mapps> ;D
[14:46] <diddledan_> what was it?
[14:46] <zmoylan-pi> 1234... :-)
[14:46] <diddledan_> hunter2?
[14:47] <davmor2> password
[14:47] <davmor2> admin
[14:47] <davmor2> Admin
[14:52] <mapps> umeecpe was pass
[14:52] <mapps> heh
[14:57] <MooDoo> diddledan_: what was that password I only see ******** ;)
[15:03] <diddledan_> this got assigned to someone. I wonder if that means my idea is being actively worked on? https://github.com/PowerShell/Win32-OpenSSH/issues/35
[15:03] <zmoylan-pi> fingers crossed
[15:05] <diddledan_> I'm actually quite proud of the thoroughness I put into writing that issue
[15:06] <zmoylan-pi> covered all the ground from what i could see
[15:06] <diddledan_> oftentimes when I file a bug/improvement I do as little effort as possible :-p
[15:06] <diddledan_> I'm inherently laxy
[15:06] <diddledan_> lazy
[15:07] <zmoylan-pi> a rolled up newspaper hitting the developer on the nose *IS* a legitimate bug report :-D
[15:07] <pwaring> I put in a lot of effort, which is why I get annoyed when people close something as WONTFIX
[15:07] <pwaring> But I have a trick to avoid that now
[15:07] <pwaring> Make first bug report a trivial documentation fix - if that's ignored do not contribute further
[15:08] <diddledan_> lol, zmoylan-pi, that sounds fun
[15:08] <zmoylan-pi> it's suggesting they're like a happy puppy sitting beside a big pile of poo that they made...
[15:10] <zmoylan-pi> bad developer *smack*
[15:13] <penguin42> heck it's wet out there
[15:14]  * zmoylan-pi checks forecast for the week and only friday looks like it'll be a no rain day...
[15:14] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: where do live the sahara?
[15:14] <mapps> hmm
[15:14] <diddledan_> I haven't opened the curtains
[15:15] <zmoylan-pi> dublin.  you don't get 40 shades of green without a little rain
[15:15] <mapps> can someone try my ip 1194 forwarded port but cant connect
[15:16] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: You'd think Manchester would be greener then
[15:17] <mapps> piVPN	Port-Range	1194	1194	UDP	eth0.v1804	192.168.1.13	
[15:17] <mapps> hm
[15:17] <penguin42> oh just UDP?
[15:17] <mapps> ya
[15:17] <davmor2> pfff 50 shades of grey was named after the writer saw this sky
[15:17] <mapps> i set the proto as UDP in server conf
[15:19] <mapps> wonder if its to do with the nat interface it was set at
[15:19] <mapps> i left it as default
[15:19] <mapps> eth0.v1804 or eth0.v804.ppp
[15:19] <mapps> ugh
[15:20] <mapps> yea need 2nd i think
[15:21] <mapps> nope still nothing;/
[15:23] <mapps> anyone got any suggestions? openvpn is running and both server/client config looks ok
[15:26] <penguin42> use TCP :-)
[15:26] <diddledan_> what are you trying to get running?
[15:26] <mapps> just enabled DMZ on the pi IP and still cant connect
[15:26] <mapps> trying to forward 1194 to the pi so i can connect to my vpn from my phone
[15:27] <diddledan_> UDP doesn't "connect" because it's UDP
[15:27] <davmor2> mapps: is the port actually open on the pi
[15:28] <mapps> davmor2 should be only iptables rule is iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.1.13
[15:28] <diddledan_> mapps: iptables -L INPUT --verbose | pastebinit
[15:29] <diddledan_> (pastebinit is available on pi?)
[15:29] <mapps> eya
[15:29] <mapps> *sec and yea
[15:30] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339958/
[15:31] <diddledan_> ok, your policy is set to accept - that's what I was wanting to verify
[15:31] <diddledan_> hmm
[15:31] <diddledan_> the daemon is running ? :-p
[15:31] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339959/
[15:32] <diddledan_> </mr stating mcobvious>
[15:32] <mapps> and yep
[15:32] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339961/
[15:32] <mapps> can see it's running
[15:32] <diddledan_> does your openvpn.log show the connection arriving?
[15:32] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339960/
[15:32] <mapps> sec
[15:33] <diddledan_> oops
[15:33] <diddledan_> you'll need to regen your certs
[15:33] <jpds> mapps: Oh, thanks for the private key
[15:33] <mapps> nope nothing at all
[15:33] <mapps> haha it doesnt matter for now;p
[15:33] <mapps> cant connect anyway;)
[15:33] <mapps> il regen later
[15:34] <mapps> everything looks fine though? server/client config..iptables rules
[15:34] <mapps> ipv4 forwarding enabled in sysctl.conf
[15:34] <diddledan_> yeah
[15:34] <jpds> I don't understand what this SNAT is about
[15:35] <jpds> All I have on my VPN is a MASQUERADE rule
[15:35] <mapps> http://paste.debian.net/339963/
[15:35] <mapps> would nmap show udp?
[15:36] <diddledan_> no it wouldn't
[15:36] <jpds> mapps: netstat -lnptu
[15:36] <diddledan_> udp can't be verified due to being connectionless
[15:36] <mapps> ssh doesnt work..even though it says open? and ive set a DMZ up?
[15:36] <diddledan_> are you sure your router can forward udp ports?
[15:37] <mapps> yea it allows it
[15:37] <mapps> so why cant i even ssh in...says port open but wont work
[15:38] <mapps> could it be their end?
[15:39] <diddledan_> your router might not do NAT-reflection, so if you're trying to ssh to your own public IP that might be the issue
[15:39] <penguin42> mapps: Because the ssh is tcp ?
[15:39] <mapps> but i set a DMZ
[15:39] <mapps> can someone try ssh to my ip then please
[15:41] <jpds> mapps: Can I have your private ssh key?
[15:42] <mapps> i dont use ssh keys
[15:42] <jpds> ...
[15:42] <mapps> ?:|Z
[15:43] <mapps> can someone please help
[15:43] <diddledan_> :();:|:
[15:43] <mapps> diddledan_ ??:(
[15:44] <diddledan_> !danger
[15:44] <diddledan_> ^
[15:45] <mapps> this sucks, no idea why i cant connect
[15:45] <diddledan_> it's a forkbomb
[15:45] <mapps> if it was their end, nmap wouldnt show as open would it?
[15:46] <penguin42> diddledan_: It's impressively short
[15:46] <diddledan_> if nmap shows it open then it's open
[15:46] <diddledan_> penguin42: I think I got it wrong
[15:46] <mapps> so if its open why cant i ssh even? i tried from my phone uing 3g
[15:46] <mapps> as you mentioned nat reflection
[15:46] <mapps> this is annoying:)
[15:47] <diddledan_> penguin42: I think it should be :(){:|:};:
[15:47] <diddledan_> again heed the warning of lubotu3
[15:47] <diddledan_> !danger
[15:48] <Seeker`> diddledan_: why are you writing out forkbombs in here?
[15:48] <diddledan_> Seeker`: it was a response to a weird series of characters that mapps wrote
[15:49] <Seeker`> yeah, don't.
[15:49] <mapps> maybe il reboot it
[15:49] <mapps> although that wont do anything
[15:49] <mapps> lol
[15:50] <davmor2> mapps: are you reading the right guide for the os you have on the device for setting this all up or are you making it up as you go along
[15:51] <mapps> lol yes im not a fool
[15:51] <mapps> switched back to 3g and it's working
[15:51] <mapps> so diddledan_ could be right?
[15:51] <mapps> id never ever had that before, an issue connecting to the public ip locally:)
[15:52] <mapps> yep and vpn working
[15:52] <mapps> wow, how odd
[15:53] <Azelphur> Anyone handy with monit? I've looked at the documentation on this page for pushover notifications, https://mmonit.com/wiki/MMonit/PushoverNotification (scroll to the bottom)
[15:54] <davmor2> mapps: yay diddledan_ good guesswork dude ;)
[15:54] <Azelphur> and I've wrote something similar for pushbullet, http://pastebin.com/QDhGLtcE but whenever I get an alert, I literally just get "$MONIT_SERVICE - $MONIT_DESCRIPTION" sent
[15:55] <mapps> :D
[15:55] <mapps> has anyone else had that before where you cant connect to the public ip locally?
[15:56] <davmor2> mapps: I have on an old router but not for a while but then I run openwrt on ip-link routers pretty much since :)
[15:57] <mapps> this is just the router i got given when i signed up to umee;)
[15:57] <Azelphur> Oo, this is actually officially now a shell scripting error
[15:57] <Azelphur> I stuck echo "$MONIT_HOST" | wall in the shell script, it walls "server", so the variables are definitely set
[15:59] <popey> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06rkc60 was interesting to listen to. maybe of interest to some here... "John Harris from the Guardian talks to university researcher, Penny Andrews, who, after a difficult childhood and adolescence, was finally diagnosed as autistic in her early thirties"
[16:00] <Seeker`> I've got a friend that was officially diagnosed at 26
[16:02] <Azelphur> I was diagnosed pretty late myself, didn't get diagnosed until 16
[16:03] <davmor2> I didn't get diagnosed with dyslexia till I was in Highschool and a supply teacher decided there was something up with me being in top set maths and science and bottom set English and French
[16:04]  * penguin42 should probably get himself checked at some point, I'm fairly sure I tick most of the boxes
[16:05] <Seeker`> penguin42: There's a difference between "not being very social" and "autistic"
[16:05] <penguin42> Seeker`: Yes, I realise that
[16:06] <davmor2> ah that is the polite way of putting it thanks Seeker`
[16:07] <Azelphur> The take home here is that UKs mental health services are fairly useless, I've had some real bad experiences with them
[16:16] <Azelphur> In other news, people noticed the 1TB Samsung EVOs on Amazon? so cheap, I picked one up
[16:18] <Azelphur> I've been looking for 2TB HDD deals too, nobody has any good deals on them, seen 1TB, 3TB, 4TB and 5TB, SSDs of all sizes, and no 2TB deals :<
[16:19] <penguin42> the flash prices seem to have fallen through the floor
[16:21] <Azelphur> I'm having fun this black friday, my boss is late paying me so he gets to buy me whatever I want off Amazon at purse 50% rates until he pays me
[16:21] <Azelphur> so I got that 1TB Samsung drive for £120
[16:22] <marshmn> hi all; I have a few games which I *believe* were developed using the 'Unity 3d' cross-platform games engine; these seem to run pretty slowly on Linux though; does anyone have similar experience and/or know tips to make them playable?
[16:22] <davmor2> penguin42: they will, they should get cheaper too, more bulk of chips less overall cost they will limit it at some point to make the maximum amount of profit
[16:23] <Azelphur> marshmn: have you tried other games? do you get poor performance across the board, or only in Unity?
[16:23] <marshmn> Azelphur: I have other games which seem more native and which seem to be fine; the machine is quite powerful too (i7 w/16GB RAM and Nvidia 750M)
[16:23] <penguin42> davmor2: The 3d structure stuff might have helped recently, but it's more process steps so I'm not sure how much price wise it helps
[16:24] <Azelphur> marshmn: are you using Unity?
[16:24] <marshmn> not Unity desktop, no
[16:24] <marshmn> I'm in Gnome
[16:24] <Azelphur> Are you using a desktop with a compositor?
[16:24] <marshmn> how to tell?
[16:25] <davmor2> Azelphur: he is using gnome so it is using clutter iirc
[16:25] <Azelphur> marshmn: hmm, do you have transparent windows anywhere?
[16:26] <marshmn> Azelphur: I can run terminal with a transparent background if that's what you mean?
[16:26] <Azelphur> marshmn: probably have composite enabled then, somewhere there will be a setting to turn that off
[16:26] <Azelphur> you loose a few shiny effects, but composite hurts game performance
[16:27] <Azelphur> Look for Window manager settings, Composite , etc. Dunno where it is in gnome, maybe someone else does.
[16:27] <marshmn> Azelphur: ok, that's interesting, will look into it
[16:27] <marshmn> ta
[16:30] <diddledan_> does anyone know about https://atraci.github.io/Atraci-website/ ?
[16:31] <diddledan_> aah it uses youtube
[16:31] <diddledan_> I was wondering where they source their catalogue from
[17:17] <Laney> bleh it looks grim outside
[17:17] <awilkins> I went outside. It WAS grim.
[17:18] <awilkins> However, as reward for my persistence, I now have a box of stroopwafel
[17:19] <Laney> was intending to ride into town
[17:20] <davmor2> awilkins: you get waffles for having a strop man there is something wrong with this world ;)
[17:20] <Laney> but that is up and down TWO whole hills
[17:21] <Laney> http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
[17:21] <davmor2> Laney: they're call sleeping policemen, or speed humps, not hills honest gov ;)
[17:24] <Seeker`> awilkins: gief
[19:18] <knightwise> hey everyone
[19:18] <knightwise> anyone in ?
[19:20] <DJones> Nope
[19:20] <zmoylan-pi> no one here but us chickens
[19:21] <saur0> i'm not here
[19:29] <diddledan_> quck
[19:29] <diddledan_> quack
[19:31] <penguin42> nope, definitely not
[20:32] <diddledan_> I'm confused how a person at chromium thinks that the bug I filed isn't the bug I filed and therefore I should file a bug: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=557087
[20:33] <diddledan_> #6 was me, as was the original bug report
[20:35] <diddledan_> oh well, I guess I'll file an exact copy?
[20:36] <penguin42> diddledan_: I guess it's a simpler case
[20:36] <diddledan_> but it's the exact thing that I wanted fixed
[20:36] <diddledan_> why should I have to file a second bug to get the thing fixed that I've already filed a bug to get the thing fixed?
[20:37] <penguin42> diddledan_: It sounds to me like you're asking for it to 1) Prompt the user and 1a) Proide the cert if asked for 1b) connet anyway if the user says no
[20:37] <penguin42> diddledan_: It sounds like they're asking for a bug filing for just 'connect anyway without the client cert'
[20:37] <penguin42> diddledan_: Which without understanding the details of SSL, does sound simpler
[20:38] <penguin42> anyway, time to poweroff brain, back to work tomorrow
[21:23] <DeaDSouL> hi, i have a lycamobile number... and I would like to purchase a voucher from their website.. there a lot of categories and plans... which one allows me to send an internation SMS ?
[21:25] <directhex> um........... i don't know?
[21:26] <diddledan_> ask them?
[21:26] <directhex> like, why does this seem like something anyone in here would know?
[21:26] <diddledan_> what is lycamobile, anyway?
[21:28] <directhex> diddledan_: they basically do PAYG SIMs for people whose families are far outside the EU, so need mostly international calls
[21:29] <directhex> you'll find posters for them in most independent corner shops or ethnic food stores
[21:29] <diddledan_> aah
[21:30] <DeaDSouL> directhex: i'm out of uk now.. and i need to purchase voucher online... but i don;t know which one should i get ?
[21:32] <intrbiz> DeaDSouL: I doubt anyone here will know
[21:42] <daftykins> DeaDSouL: this is not a shop.
[21:42] <intrbiz> is it me, or is this channel quiet of late
[21:43] <daftykins> err, doesn't feel like anything beyond usual
[21:43] <intrbiz> hmm, fair enough
[21:43] <intrbiz> semed busier earlier in the summer
[21:44] <daftykins> probably the winter blues and preparations for Christmas for all the family folk :)
[21:44] <intrbiz> true
[21:44] <intrbiz> TBF I've been pretty crap at being online the last few months
[21:46] <daftykins> i'm keeping quite the funky hours myself :(
[21:48] <intrbiz> yes, my monday mornings are all to funky hours these days
[22:02] <DeaDSouL> intrbiz: thanks
[22:02] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: really ?!
[22:02] <daftykins> indeed!
[22:03] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: smart boy
[22:04] <daftykins> hey DeaDSouL let's go and ask in ##windows about good car insurance providers
[22:04] <daftykins> i feel like i'm on a roll
[22:05] <DeaDSouL> daftykins: i asked this channel because of the "uk" ... i thought someone knows