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balloons | flocculant, I guess a pad might be the way to go to get everything listed out | 14:50 |
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flocculant | balloons: started yesterday http://pad.ubuntu.com/qaGCI | 16:48 |
balloons | flocculant, ack, thank you | 17:38 |
flocculant | you'll see the importantest thing :D | 17:38 |
balloons | lol, no this is good | 17:38 |
balloons | any manual test cases needing written as well? | 17:39 |
balloons | performing test runs are also helpful | 17:39 |
balloons | just trying to jog up all the tasks that make sense | 17:39 |
balloons | I'll highlight each of the bugs you mentioned specifically in there | 17:39 |
flocculant | well I'd happily see a bunch of xub package tests run :D | 17:39 |
flocculant | and the current emphasis on writing is with studio | 17:40 |
flocculant | balloons: re the bugs - I would suspect that they'd all come together as one thing - but no coder :D | 17:40 |
balloons | it's php, I think there's a good chance | 17:41 |
balloons | I mean perhaps not, but it's worth trying | 17:41 |
flocculant | personally getting a list of bugs, colour change when fixed, being able to filter the defect list would be my priorities :) | 17:42 |
balloons | Would you be a mentor just to running xubuntu tests? | 17:44 |
flocculant | I guess so | 17:44 |
wxl | balloons: i would be happy to mentor someone in running lubuntu tests and perhaps bug triage | 17:44 |
flocculant | balloons: so long as I don't need to join that m/l I refuse to read anymore ... | 17:45 |
balloons | flocculant, nope, you do not | 17:49 |
balloons | wxl, that's awesome as well! | 17:49 |
balloons | I'm curious if lubuntu might have some other tasks like promotion, documentation, icons, etc as well | 17:50 |
balloons | ahh, I see your response | 17:50 |
wxl | balloons: my concern is i couldn't see how we could dedicate our time to help out except in little amounts. but if that's all you need, let me know how i can help, on any level, and i'll rally the troops. | 17:50 |
wxl | so yeah i'm sure we could come up with some other stuff | 17:50 |
wxl | you just want little bits, then? | 17:50 |
balloons | wxl, yes it should be tiny. The idea is these are self-sufficent tasks | 17:50 |
balloons | if you keep them straight-forward, the only thing you need to do is review the work | 17:50 |
balloons | ie, for running tests as an example, you would simply need to review as you would normally. If someone makes a promotion video, review, blog post, etc, you review it | 17:52 |
balloons | I think it would be a net benefit to flavors, and hopefully get some more help and love infused into your communities. | 17:53 |
balloons | It's my first time doing this, but that's my thoughts | 17:53 |
flocculant | :) | 17:53 |
wxl | balloons: sounds good to me. so where do i go to submit tasks and such? | 17:54 |
flocculant | isn't time running out for this? | 17:56 |
balloons | wxl, I'll add you as a mentor | 18:04 |
wxl | sounds good balloons | 18:04 |
balloons | flocculant, I'll add you too. This is the last week before students begin. But you can add tasks all the way through | 18:04 |
wxl | the more you can let me know about the process, i.e. where we actually go to add tasks, the better, balloons | 18:05 |
balloons | wxl, flocculant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn has the FAQ and summary of things | 18:05 |
wxl | thx | 18:05 |
balloons | I can answer anything beyond that of course :-) | 18:05 |
flocculant | balloons: ack | 18:05 |
wxl | oh and did you notice kde is going to be a part of it, balloons ? | 18:06 |
balloons | wxl, indeed. | 18:06 |
wxl | that being said i'm not sure kubuntu will have much to offer, as they're tightly integrated with kde upstream | 18:07 |
wxl | duuuude metabrainz is involved. cool. | 18:07 |
balloons | yes, I suppose the KDE participation might align more with kubuntu.. it's up to them :-) | 18:07 |
wxl | yeah well, the lxde team and the lubuntu team are fairly separate, but kubuntu/kde seems a bit different | 18:08 |
balloons | for you wxl, I'm adding a picture to the wiki page. If i can remember the syntax ;p | 18:10 |
wxl | good luck, balloons | 18:11 |
* wxl LOOOOOATHES moinmoin | 18:11 | |
balloons | ahh.. it's {{}} not [[]] | 18:12 |
wxl | balloons: could you please send the invite to bikefridaywalter@gmail.com? that's the account associated with my g+ | 18:13 |
balloons | done | 18:16 |
wxl | balloons: there appears to be a minimum of 75 tasks. is that the whole project or just me? | 18:16 |
balloons | wxl, that's the whole project | 18:17 |
wxl | balloons: so what would be a reasonable goal for lubuntu? | 18:17 |
balloons | no worries. You can add as many or as little tasks as you'd like. Bear in mind, some of the tasks you ask for can be completed by more than one person | 18:17 |
wxl | ok | 18:17 |
balloons | wxl, there's not goal or requirement. I appreciate any tasks you wish to add | 18:17 |
wxl | are translation tasks reasonable? | 18:18 |
flocculant | balloons: I assume that tasks can be added later on? | 18:19 |
flocculant | we've got a meeting on Friday - if we can add stuff later on then I'll bring it up | 18:19 |
balloons | flocculant, yes indeed. We'll need more tasks as we go | 18:20 |
* balloons is updating the FAQ with your questions :-) | 18:21 | |
flocculant | :) | 18:21 |
flocculant | don't ask me too - don't have time left today to try logging into ubuntu wiki :D | 18:21 |
balloons | nope, I'm on oit | 18:22 |
balloons | you've supplied the questions, so I am already indebted to you | 18:22 |
wxl | well i'm going to add translation tasks | 18:22 |
balloons | wxl, that is another thing I should add | 18:23 |
flocculant | balloons: and where does one see what tasks are listed? | 18:23 |
balloons | I found out translation tasks aren't allowed for GCI. I was surprised, but they say it's hard to control the quality so it's best to not have them | 18:23 |
balloons | wxl ^^ | 18:23 |
balloons | flocculant, good question. When you login, you should be able to see the list under manage tasks. | 18:24 |
balloons | can you confirm you can indeed see it? I can, but then again, I'm an admin | 18:24 |
wxl | that sucks, balloons | 18:25 |
balloons | yea, it really does | 18:25 |
flocculant | login where ? | 18:27 |
balloons | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn#Where_can_I_see_the_current_tasks\.3F | 18:28 |
balloons | see if that answers it | 18:28 |
flocculant | 403. That's an error. | 18:29 |
flocculant | Your client does not have access to this page. | 18:29 |
flocculant | assume not a mentor | 18:29 |
balloons | flocculant, did you accept my invite? | 18:29 |
flocculant | not seen it | 18:30 |
balloons | yea, I don't see you in the list yet | 18:30 |
wxl | so balloons my biggest problem is that most of our developers (all like 2 of them) are very busy. do you think i could find some co-mentor within the ubuntu community to help out with tasks? i know our big needs, code-wise, but don't feel like i can adequately help someone. | 18:30 |
balloons | I sent it again | 18:30 |
balloons | wxl, having someone to help out is a good idea. Hmm. What sort of coding tasks are you thinking | 18:31 |
flocculant | balloons: probably gmx bottlenecking it | 18:31 |
wxl | balloons: bug fixes, really. | 18:31 |
wxl | balloons: although i could probably find some tasks from the upstream team to work on XD | 18:33 |
balloons | wxl, those sound like good options. Is there someone else knowledgable who could help out? I guess I'm curious where the gap lies. Many folks can help with generic questions like how to use launchpad, get code, submit an mp, etc | 18:33 |
balloons | if you can sub for the lubuntu specific bits (and of course, the devs will end up reviewing things I suspect right?) | 18:34 |
wxl | yeah i can help with all that stuff | 18:34 |
wxl | i'm just not the local c++ wizard | 18:35 |
wxl | and yeah i can make sure the reviews get fasttracked through the devs | 18:35 |
balloons | I think you'll be ok. And don't worry, we won't abandon you if you need help or get stuck | 18:36 |
wxl | ok, good | 18:36 |
balloons | The entire commmunity will still be here. I plan to draw upon them for help as needed | 18:36 |
wxl | great, then i'm excited! | 18:37 |
balloons | :-) me too! | 18:37 |
wxl | thanks for reaching out | 18:37 |
balloons | flexiondotorg, think I can persuade you as well to consider adding some tasks? | 18:37 |
wxl | i looked at that page several times and couldn't figure out how to make it work | 18:37 |
balloons | wxl, which page exactly? | 18:38 |
balloons | and thank you for volunteering! | 18:38 |
wxl | the faq | 18:38 |
balloons | ahh.. Is it better now? | 18:38 |
flocculant | balloons: oh | 18:38 |
balloons | it's hard to write good faq's without feedback | 18:38 |
wxl | i just kept thinking about having each member of my team be mentors and i couldn't necessarily see how i could make that happen | 18:38 |
wxl | but if i'm acting as a liason for the team and also getting help from the community at large, no big deal | 18:39 |
flocculant | balloons: it needs my address | 18:39 |
flocculant | no way that I'm letting google know that :| | 18:39 |
balloons | flocculant, your address? odd | 18:39 |
balloons | ohh.. perhaps for the t-shirt. I think everyone gets one | 18:39 |
wxl | so maybe adding some text that relates to that specific concern might be helpful, balloons | 18:40 |
flocculant | every field is required | 18:40 |
wxl | not EVERY team is overflowing in resources, nor does every team have paid canonical contributors XD | 18:40 |
flocculant | phone number | 18:40 |
balloons | flocculant, let me ask real quick about what to do with that. I have an idea though | 18:40 |
flocculant | balloons: sorry - not giving any of that out | 18:41 |
wxl | have it go to canonical XD | 18:42 |
balloons | seems wxl and I are on the same wavelength | 18:42 |
wxl | great minds think alike, balloons | 18:42 |
wxl | or put in my address so i can get another shirt hahahahah | 18:42 |
balloons | hehe | 18:43 |
wxl | balloons: you should note on there what i said above about not being alone and/or being a liason. also note asomething about no translations. | 18:50 |
balloons | wxl, ack, editing away | 18:51 |
wxl | balloons: writing email to team whilst you finish :) | 18:51 |
wxl | balloons: cycle-wise, any work done will be ready in time for 16.04 then? | 18:57 |
balloons | wxl, yes I don't see why not | 18:58 |
balloons | it wraps up in JHan | 18:58 |
wxl | balloons: yeah that's what i expected, but just wanted to be sure i wasn't missing anything | 18:58 |
flocculant | balloons: not sure what I could actually add and then mentor now ... | 20:10 |
flocculant | bug 1510939 would be nice to fix, but I assume that drupal and launchpad api - no good me doing that :p | 20:10 |
ubot5 | bug 1510939 in Ubuntu QA Website "Bug colours" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510939 | 20:10 |
flocculant | balloons: what about a 2 pronged thing - do an install, then try and confirm some bugs in an app - thinking thunar as that's problematic | 20:15 |
balloons | flocculant, I think doing a basic testcase is an excellent beginner task | 20:32 |
balloons | from there, confirming bugs, triaging, verifying, etc. All good stuff | 20:32 |
balloons | running the entire application testsuite is a good one | 20:32 |
balloons | that's non-trivial | 20:32 |
flocculant | yep | 20:33 |
flocculant | so 1 - install test, 2 - application tests, 3 - confirm (or not) say 10 bugs in a specific app | 20:33 |
teward | flocculant: with regard to your email: USC = software center? | 22:25 |
flocculant | yea | 22:26 |
teward | cool :) | 22:26 |
flocculant | I know the *plan* tbh | 22:26 |
flocculant | but it's a mystical thing :D | 22:26 |
* balloons feels lost | 22:30 | |
flocculant | well don't rely on me to help you find the way back :D | 22:30 |
flocculant | that way lies a world of pain :p | 22:31 |
balloons | ahh, I see the mail | 22:31 |
* teward uses advanced alien technology to beam balloons back to reality | 22:31 | |
flocculant | balloons: that helps :) | 22:31 |
* teward wants to know this plan you speak of | 22:32 | |
flocculant | some gnome thing | 22:32 |
flocculant | which xubuntu is really looking forward to ... | 22:32 |
balloons | yes, moving to more upstream stuff | 22:33 |
balloons | which is a good thing really | 22:33 |
flocculant | well | 22:33 |
flocculant | luckily I don't use USC and am rather unlikely to use this new thing | 22:33 |
balloons | https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software | 22:35 |
flocculant | doesn't seem like a good scenario for us to keep usc if canonical don't want to use it - can't see any resources landing to fix it for anyone else | 22:35 |
teward | i use the command line directly and synaptic still cause oldschool | 22:36 |
flocculant | yea | 22:36 |
flocculant | frankly most new stuff just seems like a triumph of form over function | 22:37 |
flocculant | with that I'm off up the wooden hill | 22:37 |
balloons | cheers gents | 22:39 |
* tsimonq2 chhers for balloons | 22:41 | |
tsimonq2 | s/chhers for/ cheers with/ | 22:41 |
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