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balloonsflocculant, I guess a pad might be the way to go to get everything listed out14:50
flocculantballoons: started yesterday http://pad.ubuntu.com/qaGCI16:48
balloonsflocculant, ack, thank you17:38
flocculantyou'll see the importantest thing :D17:38
balloonslol, no this is good17:38
balloonsany manual test cases needing written as well?17:39
balloonsperforming test runs are also helpful17:39
balloonsjust trying to jog up all the tasks that make sense17:39
balloonsI'll highlight each of the bugs you mentioned specifically in there17:39
flocculantwell I'd happily see a bunch of xub package tests run :D17:39
flocculantand the current emphasis on writing is with studio17:40
flocculantballoons: re the bugs - I would suspect that they'd all come together as one thing - but no coder :D17:40
balloonsit's php, I think there's a good chance17:41
balloonsI mean perhaps not, but it's worth trying17:41
flocculantpersonally getting a list of bugs, colour change when fixed, being able to filter the defect list would be my priorities :)17:42
balloonsWould you be a mentor just to running xubuntu tests?17:44
flocculantI guess so17:44
wxlballoons: i would be happy to mentor someone in running lubuntu tests and perhaps bug triage17:44
flocculantballoons: so long as I don't need to join that m/l I refuse to read anymore ...17:45
balloonsflocculant, nope, you do not17:49
balloonswxl, that's awesome as well!17:49
balloonsI'm curious if lubuntu might have some other tasks like promotion, documentation, icons, etc as well17:50
balloonsahh, I see your response17:50
wxlballoons: my concern is i couldn't see how we could dedicate our time to help out except in little amounts. but if that's all you need, let me know how i can help, on any level, and i'll rally the troops.17:50
wxlso yeah i'm sure we could come up with some other stuff17:50
wxlyou just want little bits, then?17:50
balloonswxl, yes it should be tiny. The idea is these are self-sufficent tasks17:50
balloonsif you keep them straight-forward, the only thing you need to do is review the work17:50
balloonsie, for running tests as an example, you would simply need to review as you would normally. If someone makes a promotion video, review, blog post, etc, you review it17:52
balloonsI think it would be a net benefit to flavors, and hopefully get some more help and love infused into your communities.17:53
balloonsIt's my first time doing this, but that's my thoughts17:53
flocculant:)17:53
wxlballoons: sounds good to me. so where do i go to submit tasks and such?17:54
flocculantisn't time running out for this?17:56
balloonswxl, I'll add you as a mentor18:04
wxlsounds good balloons18:04
balloonsflocculant, I'll add you too. This is the last week before students begin. But you can add tasks all the way through18:04
wxlthe more you can let me know about the process, i.e. where we actually go to add tasks, the better, balloons18:05
balloonswxl, flocculant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn has the FAQ and summary of things18:05
wxlthx18:05
balloonsI can answer anything beyond that of course :-)18:05
flocculantballoons: ack18:05
wxloh and did you notice kde is going to be a part of it, balloons ?18:06
balloonswxl, indeed.18:06
wxlthat being said i'm not sure kubuntu will have much to offer, as they're tightly integrated with kde upstream18:07
wxlduuuude metabrainz is involved. cool.18:07
balloonsyes, I suppose the KDE participation might align more with kubuntu.. it's up to them :-)18:07
wxlyeah well, the lxde team and the lubuntu team are fairly separate, but kubuntu/kde seems a bit different18:08
balloonsfor you wxl, I'm adding a picture to the wiki page. If i can remember the syntax ;p18:10
wxlgood luck, balloons18:11
* wxl LOOOOOATHES moinmoin18:11
balloonsahh.. it's {{}} not [[]]18:12
wxlballoons: could you please send the invite to bikefridaywalter@gmail.com? that's the account associated with my g+18:13
balloonsdone18:16
wxlballoons: there appears to be a minimum of 75 tasks. is that the whole project or just me?18:16
balloonswxl, that's the whole project18:17
wxlballoons: so what would be a reasonable goal for lubuntu?18:17
balloonsno worries. You can add as many or as little tasks as you'd like. Bear in mind, some of the tasks you ask for can be completed by more than one person18:17
wxlok18:17
balloonswxl, there's not goal or requirement. I appreciate any tasks you wish to add18:17
wxlare translation tasks reasonable?18:18
flocculantballoons: I assume that tasks can be added later on?18:19
flocculantwe've got a meeting on Friday - if we can add stuff later on then I'll bring it up18:19
balloonsflocculant, yes indeed. We'll need more tasks as we go18:20
* balloons is updating the FAQ with your questions :-)18:21
flocculant:)18:21
flocculantdon't ask me too - don't have time left today to try logging into ubuntu wiki :D18:21
balloonsnope, I'm on oit18:22
balloonsyou've supplied the questions, so I am already indebted to you18:22
wxlwell i'm going to add translation tasks18:22
balloonswxl, that is another thing I should add18:23
flocculantballoons: and where does one see what tasks are listed?18:23
balloonsI found out translation tasks aren't allowed for GCI. I was surprised, but they say it's hard to control the quality so it's best to not have them18:23
balloonswxl ^^18:23
balloonsflocculant, good question. When you login, you should be able to see the list under manage tasks.18:24
balloonscan you confirm you can indeed see it? I can, but then again, I'm an admin18:24
wxlthat sucks, balloons18:25
balloonsyea, it really does18:25
flocculantlogin where ?18:27
balloonshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn#Where_can_I_see_the_current_tasks\.3F18:28
balloonssee if that answers it18:28
flocculant403. That's an error.18:29
flocculantYour client does not have access to this page.18:29
flocculantassume not a mentor18:29
balloonsflocculant, did you accept my invite?18:29
flocculantnot seen it18:30
balloonsyea, I don't see you in the list yet18:30
wxlso balloons my biggest problem is that most of our developers (all like 2 of them) are very busy. do you think i could find some co-mentor within the ubuntu community to help out with tasks? i know our big needs, code-wise, but don't feel like i can adequately help someone.18:30
balloonsI sent it again18:30
balloonswxl, having someone to help out is a good idea. Hmm. What sort of coding tasks are you thinking18:31
flocculantballoons: probably gmx bottlenecking it18:31
wxlballoons: bug fixes, really.18:31
wxlballoons: although i could probably find some tasks from the upstream team to work on XD18:33
balloonswxl, those sound like good options. Is there someone else knowledgable who could help out? I guess I'm curious where the gap lies. Many folks can help with generic questions like how to use launchpad, get code, submit an mp, etc18:33
balloonsif you can sub for the lubuntu specific bits (and of course, the devs will end up reviewing things I suspect right?)18:34
wxlyeah i can help with all that stuff18:34
wxli'm just not the local c++ wizard18:35
wxland yeah i can make sure the reviews get fasttracked through the devs18:35
balloonsI think you'll be ok. And don't worry, we won't abandon you if you need help or get stuck18:36
wxlok, good18:36
balloonsThe entire commmunity will still be here. I plan to draw upon them for help as needed18:36
wxlgreat, then i'm excited!18:37
balloons:-) me too!18:37
wxlthanks for reaching out18:37
balloonsflexiondotorg, think I can persuade you as well to consider adding some tasks?18:37
wxli looked at that page several times and couldn't figure out how to make it work18:37
balloonswxl, which page exactly?18:38
balloonsand thank you for volunteering!18:38
wxlthe faq18:38
balloonsahh.. Is it better now?18:38
flocculantballoons: oh18:38
balloonsit's hard to write good faq's without feedback18:38
wxli just kept thinking about having each member of my team be mentors and i couldn't necessarily see how i could make that happen18:38
wxlbut if i'm acting as a liason for the team and also getting help from the community at large, no big deal18:39
flocculantballoons: it needs my address18:39
flocculantno way that I'm letting google know that :|18:39
balloonsflocculant, your address? odd18:39
balloonsohh.. perhaps for the t-shirt. I think everyone gets one18:39
wxlso maybe adding some text that relates to that specific concern might be helpful, balloons18:40
flocculantevery field is required18:40
wxlnot EVERY team is overflowing in resources, nor does every team have paid canonical contributors XD18:40
flocculantphone number18:40
balloonsflocculant, let me ask real quick about what to do with that. I have an idea though18:40
flocculantballoons: sorry - not giving any of that out18:41
wxlhave it go to canonical XD18:42
balloonsseems wxl and I are on the same wavelength18:42
wxlgreat minds think alike, balloons18:42
wxlor put in my address so i can get another shirt hahahahah18:42
balloonshehe18:43
wxlballoons: you should note on there what i said above about not being alone and/or being a liason. also note asomething about no translations.18:50
balloonswxl, ack, editing away18:51
wxlballoons: writing email to team whilst you finish :)18:51
wxlballoons: cycle-wise, any work done will be ready in time for 16.04 then?18:57
balloonswxl, yes I don't see why not18:58
balloonsit wraps up in JHan18:58
wxlballoons: yeah that's what i expected, but just wanted to be sure i wasn't missing anything18:58
flocculantballoons: not sure what I could actually add and then mentor now ...20:10
flocculantbug 1510939 would be nice to fix, but I assume that drupal and launchpad api - no good me doing that :p20:10
ubot5bug 1510939 in Ubuntu QA Website "Bug colours" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151093920:10
flocculantballoons: what about a 2 pronged thing - do an install, then try and confirm some bugs in an app - thinking thunar as that's problematic20:15
balloonsflocculant, I think doing a basic testcase is an excellent beginner task20:32
balloonsfrom there, confirming bugs, triaging, verifying, etc. All good stuff20:32
balloonsrunning the entire application testsuite is a good one20:32
balloonsthat's non-trivial20:32
flocculantyep20:33
flocculantso 1 - install test, 2 - application tests, 3 - confirm (or not) say 10 bugs in a specific app20:33
tewardflocculant: with regard to your email: USC = software center?22:25
flocculantyea22:26
tewardcool :)22:26
flocculantI know the *plan* tbh22:26
flocculantbut it's a mystical thing :D22:26
* balloons feels lost22:30
flocculantwell don't rely on me to help you find the way back :D22:30
flocculantthat way lies a world of pain :p22:31
balloonsahh, I see the mail22:31
* teward uses advanced alien technology to beam balloons back to reality22:31
flocculantballoons: that helps :)22:31
* teward wants to know this plan you speak of22:32
flocculantsome gnome thing22:32
flocculantwhich xubuntu is really looking forward to ...22:32
balloonsyes, moving to more upstream stuff22:33
balloonswhich is a good thing really22:33
flocculantwell22:33
flocculantluckily I don't use USC and am rather unlikely to use this new thing22:33
balloonshttps://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software22:35
flocculantdoesn't seem like a good scenario for us to keep usc if canonical don't want to use it - can't see any resources landing to fix it for anyone else22:35
tewardi use the command line directly and synaptic still cause oldschool22:36
flocculantyea22:36
flocculantfrankly most new stuff just seems like a triumph of form over function22:37
flocculantwith that I'm off up the wooden hill22:37
balloonscheers gents22:39
* tsimonq2 chhers for balloons 22:41
tsimonq2s/chhers for/ cheers with/22:41

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