[14:50] <balloons> flocculant, I guess a pad might be the way to go to get everything listed out
[16:48] <flocculant> balloons: started yesterday http://pad.ubuntu.com/qaGCI
[17:38] <balloons> flocculant, ack, thank you
[17:38] <flocculant> you'll see the importantest thing :D
[17:38] <balloons> lol, no this is good
[17:39] <balloons> any manual test cases needing written as well?
[17:39] <balloons> performing test runs are also helpful
[17:39] <balloons> just trying to jog up all the tasks that make sense
[17:39] <balloons> I'll highlight each of the bugs you mentioned specifically in there
[17:39] <flocculant> well I'd happily see a bunch of xub package tests run :D
[17:40] <flocculant> and the current emphasis on writing is with studio
[17:40] <flocculant> balloons: re the bugs - I would suspect that they'd all come together as one thing - but no coder :D
[17:41] <balloons> it's php, I think there's a good chance
[17:41] <balloons> I mean perhaps not, but it's worth trying
[17:42] <flocculant> personally getting a list of bugs, colour change when fixed, being able to filter the defect list would be my priorities :)
[17:44] <balloons> Would you be a mentor just to running xubuntu tests?
[17:44] <flocculant> I guess so
[17:44] <wxl> balloons: i would be happy to mentor someone in running lubuntu tests and perhaps bug triage
[17:45] <flocculant> balloons: so long as I don't need to join that m/l I refuse to read anymore ...
[17:49] <balloons> flocculant, nope, you do not
[17:49] <balloons> wxl, that's awesome as well!
[17:50] <balloons> I'm curious if lubuntu might have some other tasks like promotion, documentation, icons, etc as well
[17:50] <balloons> ahh, I see your response
[17:50] <wxl> balloons: my concern is i couldn't see how we could dedicate our time to help out except in little amounts. but if that's all you need, let me know how i can help, on any level, and i'll rally the troops.
[17:50] <wxl> so yeah i'm sure we could come up with some other stuff
[17:50] <wxl> you just want little bits, then?
[17:50] <balloons> wxl, yes it should be tiny. The idea is these are self-sufficent tasks
[17:50] <balloons> if you keep them straight-forward, the only thing you need to do is review the work
[17:52] <balloons> ie, for running tests as an example, you would simply need to review as you would normally. If someone makes a promotion video, review, blog post, etc, you review it
[17:53] <balloons> I think it would be a net benefit to flavors, and hopefully get some more help and love infused into your communities.
[17:53] <balloons> It's my first time doing this, but that's my thoughts
[17:53] <flocculant> :)
[17:54] <wxl> balloons: sounds good to me. so where do i go to submit tasks and such?
[17:56] <flocculant> isn't time running out for this?
[18:04] <balloons> wxl, I'll add you as a mentor
[18:04] <wxl> sounds good balloons
[18:04] <balloons> flocculant, I'll add you too. This is the last week before students begin. But you can add tasks all the way through
[18:05] <wxl> the more you can let me know about the process, i.e. where we actually go to add tasks, the better, balloons
[18:05] <balloons> wxl, flocculant https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn has the FAQ and summary of things
[18:05] <wxl> thx
[18:05] <balloons> I can answer anything beyond that of course :-)
[18:05] <flocculant> balloons: ack
[18:06] <wxl> oh and did you notice kde is going to be a part of it, balloons ?
[18:06] <balloons> wxl, indeed.
[18:07] <wxl> that being said i'm not sure kubuntu will have much to offer, as they're tightly integrated with kde upstream
[18:07] <wxl> duuuude metabrainz is involved. cool.
[18:07] <balloons> yes, I suppose the KDE participation might align more with kubuntu.. it's up to them :-)
[18:08] <wxl> yeah well, the lxde team and the lubuntu team are fairly separate, but kubuntu/kde seems a bit different
[18:10] <balloons> for you wxl, I'm adding a picture to the wiki page. If i can remember the syntax ;p
[18:11] <wxl> good luck, balloons
[18:11]  * wxl LOOOOOATHES moinmoin
[18:12] <balloons> ahh.. it's {{}} not [[]]
[18:13] <wxl> balloons: could you please send the invite to bikefridaywalter@gmail.com? that's the account associated with my g+
[18:16] <balloons> done
[18:16] <wxl> balloons: there appears to be a minimum of 75 tasks. is that the whole project or just me?
[18:17] <balloons> wxl, that's the whole project
[18:17] <wxl> balloons: so what would be a reasonable goal for lubuntu?
[18:17] <balloons> no worries. You can add as many or as little tasks as you'd like. Bear in mind, some of the tasks you ask for can be completed by more than one person
[18:17] <wxl> ok
[18:17] <balloons> wxl, there's not goal or requirement. I appreciate any tasks you wish to add
[18:18] <wxl> are translation tasks reasonable?
[18:19] <flocculant> balloons: I assume that tasks can be added later on?
[18:19] <flocculant> we've got a meeting on Friday - if we can add stuff later on then I'll bring it up
[18:20] <balloons> flocculant, yes indeed. We'll need more tasks as we go
[18:21]  * balloons is updating the FAQ with your questions :-)
[18:21] <flocculant> :)
[18:21] <flocculant> don't ask me too - don't have time left today to try logging into ubuntu wiki :D
[18:22] <balloons> nope, I'm on oit
[18:22] <balloons> you've supplied the questions, so I am already indebted to you
[18:22] <wxl> well i'm going to add translation tasks
[18:23] <balloons> wxl, that is another thing I should add
[18:23] <flocculant> balloons: and where does one see what tasks are listed?
[18:23] <balloons> I found out translation tasks aren't allowed for GCI. I was surprised, but they say it's hard to control the quality so it's best to not have them
[18:23] <balloons> wxl ^^
[18:24] <balloons> flocculant, good question. When you login, you should be able to see the list under manage tasks.
[18:24] <balloons> can you confirm you can indeed see it? I can, but then again, I'm an admin
[18:25] <wxl> that sucks, balloons
[18:25] <balloons> yea, it really does
[18:27] <flocculant> login where ?
[18:28] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GoogleCodeIn#Where_can_I_see_the_current_tasks\.3F
[18:28] <balloons> see if that answers it
[18:29] <flocculant> 403. That's an error.
[18:29] <flocculant> Your client does not have access to this page.
[18:29] <flocculant> assume not a mentor
[18:29] <balloons> flocculant, did you accept my invite?
[18:30] <flocculant> not seen it
[18:30] <balloons> yea, I don't see you in the list yet
[18:30] <wxl> so balloons my biggest problem is that most of our developers (all like 2 of them) are very busy. do you think i could find some co-mentor within the ubuntu community to help out with tasks? i know our big needs, code-wise, but don't feel like i can adequately help someone.
[18:30] <balloons> I sent it again
[18:31] <balloons> wxl, having someone to help out is a good idea. Hmm. What sort of coding tasks are you thinking
[18:31] <flocculant> balloons: probably gmx bottlenecking it
[18:31] <wxl> balloons: bug fixes, really.
[18:33] <wxl> balloons: although i could probably find some tasks from the upstream team to work on XD
[18:33] <balloons> wxl, those sound like good options. Is there someone else knowledgable who could help out? I guess I'm curious where the gap lies. Many folks can help with generic questions like how to use launchpad, get code, submit an mp, etc
[18:34] <balloons> if you can sub for the lubuntu specific bits (and of course, the devs will end up reviewing things I suspect right?)
[18:34] <wxl> yeah i can help with all that stuff
[18:35] <wxl> i'm just not the local c++ wizard
[18:35] <wxl> and yeah i can make sure the reviews get fasttracked through the devs
[18:36] <balloons> I think you'll be ok. And don't worry, we won't abandon you if you need help or get stuck
[18:36] <wxl> ok, good
[18:36] <balloons> The entire commmunity will still be here. I plan to draw upon them for help as needed
[18:37] <wxl> great, then i'm excited!
[18:37] <balloons> :-) me too!
[18:37] <wxl> thanks for reaching out
[18:37] <balloons> flexiondotorg, think I can persuade you as well to consider adding some tasks?
[18:37] <wxl> i looked at that page several times and couldn't figure out how to make it work
[18:38] <balloons> wxl, which page exactly?
[18:38] <balloons> and thank you for volunteering!
[18:38] <wxl> the faq
[18:38] <balloons> ahh.. Is it better now?
[18:38] <flocculant> balloons: oh
[18:38] <balloons> it's hard to write good faq's without feedback
[18:38] <wxl> i just kept thinking about having each member of my team be mentors and i couldn't necessarily see how i could make that happen
[18:39] <wxl> but if i'm acting as a liason for the team and also getting help from the community at large, no big deal
[18:39] <flocculant> balloons: it needs my address
[18:39] <flocculant> no way that I'm letting google know that :|
[18:39] <balloons> flocculant, your address? odd
[18:39] <balloons> ohh.. perhaps for the t-shirt. I think everyone gets one
[18:40] <wxl> so maybe adding some text that relates to that specific concern might be helpful, balloons
[18:40] <flocculant> every field is required
[18:40] <wxl> not EVERY team is overflowing in resources, nor does every team have paid canonical contributors XD
[18:40] <flocculant> phone number
[18:40] <balloons> flocculant, let me ask real quick about what to do with that. I have an idea though
[18:41] <flocculant> balloons: sorry - not giving any of that out
[18:42] <wxl> have it go to canonical XD
[18:42] <balloons> seems wxl and I are on the same wavelength
[18:42] <wxl> great minds think alike, balloons
[18:42] <wxl> or put in my address so i can get another shirt hahahahah
[18:43] <balloons> hehe
[18:50] <wxl> balloons: you should note on there what i said above about not being alone and/or being a liason. also note asomething about no translations.
[18:51] <balloons> wxl, ack, editing away
[18:51] <wxl> balloons: writing email to team whilst you finish :)
[18:57] <wxl> balloons: cycle-wise, any work done will be ready in time for 16.04 then?
[18:58] <balloons> wxl, yes I don't see why not
[18:58] <balloons> it wraps up in JHan
[18:58] <wxl> balloons: yeah that's what i expected, but just wanted to be sure i wasn't missing anything
[20:10] <flocculant> balloons: not sure what I could actually add and then mentor now ...
[20:10] <flocculant> bug 1510939 would be nice to fix, but I assume that drupal and launchpad api - no good me doing that :p
[20:15] <flocculant> balloons: what about a 2 pronged thing - do an install, then try and confirm some bugs in an app - thinking thunar as that's problematic
[20:32] <balloons> flocculant, I think doing a basic testcase is an excellent beginner task
[20:32] <balloons> from there, confirming bugs, triaging, verifying, etc. All good stuff
[20:32] <balloons> running the entire application testsuite is a good one
[20:32] <balloons> that's non-trivial
[20:33] <flocculant> yep
[20:33] <flocculant> so 1 - install test, 2 - application tests, 3 - confirm (or not) say 10 bugs in a specific app
[22:25] <teward> flocculant: with regard to your email: USC = software center?
[22:26] <flocculant> yea
[22:26] <teward> cool :)
[22:26] <flocculant> I know the *plan* tbh
[22:26] <flocculant> but it's a mystical thing :D
[22:30]  * balloons feels lost
[22:30] <flocculant> well don't rely on me to help you find the way back :D
[22:31] <flocculant> that way lies a world of pain :p
[22:31] <balloons> ahh, I see the mail
[22:31]  * teward uses advanced alien technology to beam balloons back to reality
[22:31] <flocculant> balloons: that helps :)
[22:32]  * teward wants to know this plan you speak of
[22:32] <flocculant> some gnome thing
[22:32] <flocculant> which xubuntu is really looking forward to ...
[22:33] <balloons> yes, moving to more upstream stuff
[22:33] <balloons> which is a good thing really
[22:33] <flocculant> well
[22:33] <flocculant> luckily I don't use USC and am rather unlikely to use this new thing
[22:35] <balloons> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software
[22:35] <flocculant> doesn't seem like a good scenario for us to keep usc if canonical don't want to use it - can't see any resources landing to fix it for anyone else
[22:36] <teward> i use the command line directly and synaptic still cause oldschool
[22:36] <flocculant> yea
[22:37] <flocculant> frankly most new stuff just seems like a triumph of form over function
[22:37] <flocculant> with that I'm off up the wooden hill
[22:39] <balloons> cheers gents
[22:41]  * tsimonq2 chhers for balloons 
[22:41] <tsimonq2> s/chhers for/ cheers with/