[01:29] <daftykins> half past 1 and not a creature is stirring... the shop alarm however, is singing out over the town
[03:07] <daftykins> where are my late night shift pals :(
[03:21] <m0nkey_> Mastur .. sleeping.
[03:22] <daftykins> :>
[07:16] <MooDoo> Morning all
[07:23] <daftykins> heya o/
[07:23] <daftykins> welcome to December!
[07:25] <MooDoo> yay
[07:46]  * zmoylan-pi notifies strategic air command, this'll be the year we bag santa...
[07:47] <daftykins> :)
[07:51] <zmoylan-pi> we now have surface to reindeer missiles... ho ho ho :-P
[07:52] <MooDoo> track him here later in the month :) - http://www.noradsanta.org/
[07:56] <zmoylan-pi> microsoft and norad.... makes me feel safer...
[09:05] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:06] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[09:06] <daftykins> \o
[09:10] <davmor2> Well it's officially Christmas Tunes Time by the sound of the radio
[09:11] <MooDoo> :)
[09:12] <MooDoo> Christmas 24 on the telly too :D
[09:19] <davmor2> MooDoo: that has been there for months, I think radio makes a concerted effort to not play Christmas Songs till the first though
[09:19] <daftykins> awww yis laptop delivered \o/
[09:22] <daftykins> lol amazon shipped me a laptop in its' box, in another box... wat
[09:22] <daftykins> such a waste
[09:25] <zmoylan-pi> that's the box liberation front in action...
[09:27] <daftykins> ooh this £200 Lenovo is very nice
[09:28] <daftykins> a lot thinner than some of the earlier B50 line
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> thin... see what the battery life is like...
[09:28] <daftykins> well it's a tiny battery and battery life isn't relevant to this guys needs, so why would that matter?
[09:28] <daftykins> horses for courses, sir
[09:29] <MooDoo> I've just received two my cloud hard drives in a big box, half of it was empty, another waste
[09:32] <foobarry> how can i check the TTL value of a record in the DNS server
[09:32] <foobarry> not the current secs , but the value stored in the config file
[09:33]  * bashrc_ is reminded that he still needs a new laptop
[09:34] <zmoylan-pi> wait till new year sales and get a bargain?
[09:35] <andylockran> Howdy guys
[09:39] <daftykins> heya
[09:39] <daftykins> ouch, 1TB spinner doing the initial Windows 8 setup... painfully slow :)
[09:39] <daftykins> sadly the postie didn't bring the SSD that despatched at the same time! perhaps it'll be a day behind :(
[09:40] <zmoylan-pi> it's been used as a doorstop in postal department.... :-)
[09:44]  * zmoylan-pi remembers using a full height 5mb hard drive as a door stop till we sent it out to a customer to replace their dead drive... :-) /they don't build them like that anymore
[09:46] <daftykins> with good reason!
[10:07] <daftykins> wow, give support for a while, not even a thanks
[10:07] <daftykins> good ol' #ubuntu
[10:08] <zmoylan-pi> people only seem to appreciate things they pay for, it's sad but true...
[10:08]  * daftykins starts charging in cookies
[10:09] <daftykins> US kid with a school provided laptop, he claims they won't replace the disk in it based on this - http://pastebin.com/zyQR6rnY
[10:09]  * zmoylan-pi gives daftykins huge pack of figrolls...
[10:09] <daftykins> mmmm fig rolls :D thank you!
[10:09]  * daftykins sings "fig-a-roll fig-a-roll fig-a-roooooooooll!"
[10:10] <awilkins> "But it's only pre-fail!"
[10:10] <awilkins> He should just back up, remove the disk, drop it on a hard floor a couple of times, and put it in and rejoice as it emits the click of death.
[10:11] <zmoylan-pi> i replaced drives depending on how they sounded... that's 1 reason i like hard drives over ssd so much :-)
[10:11] <zmoylan-pi> a rubber panel beaters mallet can hit the hard drive and leave no marks for percussive maintenance...
[10:11] <awilkins> I've never had an SSD fail so far
[10:11] <zmoylan-pi> don't type that!! :-)
[10:12] <daftykins> oh please, life is too short not to run SSDs
[10:12] <awilkins> Really cheap awful thumbdrives, yes
[10:12] <zmoylan-pi> that's asking the gods of mocking to kill a ssd for fun...
[10:12] <awilkins> 8GB Ones that were knocked down to £1.50 by Scan
[10:12] <awilkins> Presumably because they were so slow and bad and failure prone
[10:13] <awilkins> I have a 500GB SSD wired into my computer that I'm not using yet :-)
[10:13] <awilkins> Because reinstalling Windows is going to be such a hassle
[10:13] <daftykins> how come o0
[10:13] <daftykins> it's just lovely ;)
[10:14] <daftykins> i'm letting this new Lenovo backup its' factory image to a spare external HDD right now
[10:15] <awilkins> But but, you couldn't possibly want to *get rid of* the factory supplied OS ?!?!??!?!
[10:16] <awilkins> daftykins, in seriousness... I have a fairly old Ubuntu install on here as my main productivity OS, as well as Windows for the games
[10:16] <awilkins> I've got about a TB of installed games and a bunch of tweaks to my Ubuntu install
[10:16] <awilkins> Including software installed in /opt etc
[10:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Giving Tuesday, and happy Bifocals at the Monitor Liberation Day! 😃
[10:17] <awilkins> Just planning the new partition table and whether I go for plain SSD + Spinning rust or   SSD as  Intel RST cache / dm-cache for the spinning rust is daunting
[10:18] <davmor2> JamesTait: you're just going out of your way to be obtuse with these now aren't you
[10:19] <zmoylan-pi>  no no obtuse day is next year sometime :-)
[10:21] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, probably.
[10:21] <JamesTait> davmor2, I picked that one just for you. 😉
[10:23] <davmor2> JamesTait: this has to be the ultimate in glasses wearers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePiGVI2Hs-g  now to find a song
[10:24] <JamesTait> davmor2, if that's Timmy Mallett, I'm getting in my car and coming down the A38 to hit you.
[10:24] <davmor2> JamesTait: it was tempting but I went with the more bareable glasses wearer instead
[10:25] <JamesTait> How on earth did he wear those and keep a straight face?
[10:25] <JamesTait> Maybe didn't have a choice - he couldn't raise a smile under that weight.
[10:26] <zmoylan-pi> probably cocaine...
[10:33] <davmor2> JamesTait: got a song on glasses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ah9_cw7MS4
[10:33] <MooDoo> https://youtu.be/YiVMmAk45oY mwahahahahahahahaha
[10:34] <davmor2> MooDoo: czajkowski will send you to the naughty step
[10:36] <czajkowski> it's a full step at this stage
[10:38] <davmor2> czajkowski: here you go a song on glasses just for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8IEas-ou4c
[10:40] <davmor2> JamesTait: Hah just thought of the perfect song, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU that's me covered for the day thank you very much indeed
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> here, this'll get you in the mood... https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/sht-happens-sometimes-47.jpg?quality=94&strip=info&w=600 :-)
[10:44] <JamesTait> czajkowski, tell me you weren't singing along to Let It Go. 😉
[10:47] <davmor2> JamesTait: hey dude don't deny it you were dressed up prancing around your office to it, the web cam never lies ;)
[10:49] <JamesTait> davmor2, it's CD 2 Track 1 on a compilation my wife bought for the car.  The number of times I've trolled my boys with that - it just never gets old.  I've grown to like the song.
[10:49] <davmor2> JamesTait: and you can't help but sing to it, she can deny it all she wants but we know the truth
[10:50] <JamesTait> It is one to sing along to.
[10:51] <foobarry> perl weenies: how do i check if a variable contains the $ sign?
[10:52] <foobarry> do i need to escape it?
[10:54] <pwaring> foobarry: Depends how you're searching for it
[10:54] <pwaring> With a regex, yes you will need to escape it because $ has a special meaning
[10:55] <Laney> I need a hashing system for hostnames to terminal colours
[10:55] <Laney> so that I can colour them differently in prompts
[10:55] <Laney> anyone got such a thing?
[10:56] <pwaring> hmm, I think you can do that in zsh
[10:56] <diddledan_> foobarry: a quick easy web-based way of determining the ttl of a dns record: http://api.statdns.com/example.com/a where /example.com is the domain to check and /a is the record-type to check
[10:56] <davmor2> JamesTait: that's not trolling them, making them sing "The timewarp" In costume that's trolling them
[10:56] <foobarry> diddledan_: thanks i was missing the -v on the host cmd
[10:56] <diddledan_> aah
[10:57] <diddledan_> foobarry: the web-thingy I linked can be used by a lot of stuff due to being JSON output, but for human readable I would guess host would be simpler and quicker
[10:58] <diddledan_> here's ubuntu.com for example usage: http://api.statdns.com/ubuntu.com/a
[11:00] <diddledan_> looks like I was wrong tho - the ttl used to be static on that api but now seems to be changing per cache
[12:00] <Laney> pwaring: reference appreciated if you have one :)
[12:00]  * Laney is playing Godspeed at 11
[12:00] <Laney> it's making my desk vibrate
[12:01] <Laney> bet this sounds like terrible noise to anyone else
[12:01] <pwaring> Laney: I haven't used zsh much but I have these links bookmarked
[12:01] <pwaring> https://github.com/zsh-users/zsh-syntax-highlighting
[12:01] <pwaring> https://git.gitano.org.uk/personal/dsilvers/resources.git/tree/zsh
[12:03] <Laney> some people spend a lot of time tweaking these things
[12:03]  * Laney is thankful for such people
[12:51] <MooDoo> :)
[12:53] <daftykins> Laney: ...you black emperor?
[12:53] <Laney> indeed
[12:53] <daftykins> \o/
[12:54] <daftykins> The car is on fire, there's no driver at the wheel.
[12:55] <diddledan_> o_O
[12:57] <daftykins> hi dan!
[12:57] <DJones> Ugh....Windows 10 update
[12:57] <daftykins> on 7? 8?
[12:57] <DJones> Gone from 7 to 10
[12:58] <DJones> Works laptop
[12:58] <awilkins> Did you upgrade, or fresh install?
[12:58] <awilkins> Apparently the installer permits an activation with a Win7 key now
[12:58] <DJones> Its an upgrade, first impressions are that its not too bad, just feels slow
[12:59] <awilkins> I just think NTFS gets slow unless you bleach it once in a while
[13:00] <awilkins> Is it indexing things?
[13:00] <DJones> Doesn't seem to be
[13:00] <awilkins> My Win7 install spends about 5 minutes churning the disk when I start up, gets so slow that even keypresses take a few seconds to register while you're typing
[13:02] <daftykins> :( smells like a horrid mechanical disk to me, that :D
[13:02] <MooDoo> dpeends on memory as well, my laptop with a upgrade and 8gb seems ok
[13:02] <awilkins> 16GB in both my main GUI machines
[13:03] <awilkins> Mostly so I can run a Windows VM in Linux and give it enough RAM not to chug
[13:06] <awilkins> (4GB seems to be the minimum these days)
[13:06] <pwaring> 4GB is enough to run Windows 8
[13:06] <pwaring> At least in a VM on my machine
[13:06] <awilkins> Yeah, 2GB and it was swapping to disk when you started a productivity app
[13:06] <awilkins> (Win 7 pro in a VM)
[13:07] <awilkins> And 4GB and it was crowding my available RAM on Linux (at 8GB of physical RAM) so I shoved a couple more sticks in there
[13:19] <diddledan_> adobe are renaming flash to adobe animate cc
[13:19] <diddledan_> ref: https://blogs.adobe.com/flashpro/welcome-adobe-animate-cc-a-new-era-for-flash-professional/
[13:23] <awilkins> That's just the creation app, though, no hint they're renaming Flash Player
[13:24] <awilkins> As much as I'd like to say "Look! They want to get away from the negative image of Flash!!!"
[13:25] <daftykins> i suppose there'll be no more quiet eminatings of "ah-aaaaaaah" in our heads anymore without flash :(
[13:25] <diddledan_> I'm more interested in their effort to move to html5 output rather than swf than bashing the flash player
[13:26] <awilkins> I'm.... concerned
[13:26] <awilkins> It would be terrible to be inundated with thousands of enormous HTML5 ads that you can't block with FlashBlock any more...
[14:20]  * zmoylan-pi fires up lynx browser and awaits the onslaught of html5 adverts... :-)
[14:38] <diddledan_> deadpool looks hilarious
[15:21] <brobosti1on> good afternoon all.
[15:27] <DJones> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/google-decides-to-end-support-for-google-chrome-on-32-bit-linux-oses-496934.shtml
[15:28] <zmoylan-pi> lynx it is :-)
[15:28] <DJones> But they're still supporting the 32 bit Chromium builds
[15:28] <SuperMatt> now that chrome are doing it, it's about time that *everything* dropped 32 bit
[15:29] <SuperMatt> google are well in tune with 2 things, technology and money. If they've decided it's too expensive to support 32 bit, it's probably too expensive for everyone else
[15:30] <DJones> I wonder what my chances of getting Google Chrom for an 8 bit Commodore Vic 20 are
[15:30] <diddledan_> \o/
[15:30] <zmoylan-pi> there is a web browser for c64 iirc
[15:30] <zmoylan-pi> but it need those extra 60k of ram...
[15:31] <SuperMatt> just reading through the announcement, it seems that they're just dropping support for 32bit Ubuntu, and for 12.04 and below, so it's not really killing off 32 bit for everyone
[15:31] <diddledan_> I don't get why 32bit is still the default for lots of software - even 64bit packages on windows usually have 32bit software with maybe one or two supporting things that are 64bit - e.g. drivers: the driver itself is 64bit enough to get loaded into windows' kernel but everything else is 32bit
[15:32] <SuperMatt> 32 bit has got to go :(
[15:32] <diddledan_> ^ that!
[15:32] <diddledan_> I think intel had the right idea with replacing x86 entirely with itanium
[15:32] <zmoylan-pi> nothing wrong with 32bit... more than enough
[15:32] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: you still use a nokia tho
[15:33] <zmoylan-pi> i may be a *smidge* biased :-)
[15:33] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: so I'm not sure you're quite the target audience for "modern"
[15:33] <zmoylan-pi> doesn't make me wrong though...
[15:34] <diddledan_> you need to listen to linux luddites podcast which has the tagline "we review all the new stuff and decide we like the old stuff better"
[15:34] <awilkins> Naah, I've been dealing with problem domains that definitely need 64-bit address spaces
[15:34] <zmoylan-pi> at least with open source the problem solves itself as the commercial market moves on a small goup of dedicated nutters keeps 32 bit afloat :-)
[15:34] <awilkins> Just Java programs that need a large heap are an example
[15:34] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: you're referring to yourself with the term "nutters"?
[15:35] <diddledan_> java >.<
[15:35] <awilkins> e.g. dealing with a large graph like SNOMED CT which has ~ 500k nodes and 1.5M edges
[15:35] <zmoylan-pi> no no, i prefer 8 bit instead of this fancy schmancy 32 silliness :-D
[15:35] <awilkins> On Windows, 32-bit java heap space is limited to around 1.2GB
[15:35] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: I believe there's still 8088 chips available
[15:36] <diddledan_> java is a pain with it's memory allocator from what I can tell
[15:36] <awilkins> You can DO things with SNOMED CT in that space, if you write really tight code (I wrote a special collection class)
[15:36] <diddledan_> it refuses to let the OS do it's job with allocations and just reserves a chunk which it carves-up internally
[15:36] <awilkins> The Hotspot VM wants contiguous address space : Windows plonks a massive block in the middle of address space you're not allowed to use
[15:37]  * zmoylan-pi waits for https://github.com/EtchedPixels/FUZIX to become viable... :-)
[15:37] <diddledan_> yeah, I just don't get why that's a good idea on the part of the Hotspot VM
[15:37] <awilkins> Presumably it's because the VM is essentially pretending to be a computer
[15:38] <awilkins> And having to deal with the different malloc() quirks of different OSs is annoying
[15:39] <awilkins> Having a VM that can reserve multiple blocks of RAM is probably regarded as a moot point now
[15:39] <awilkins> Because 64-bit is a thing
[15:39] <zmoylan-pi> and 128bit last time i looked at processors talk
[15:39] <awilkins> 128-bit address spaces are for the insane physics professors
[15:40] <zmoylan-pi> or the cosmologists...
[15:40] <awilkins> I was lumping them in with the former
[15:40] <diddledan_> physicians :-p
[15:40] <zmoylan-pi> then the use of word insane is redundant :-)
[15:42] <diddledan_> you might get away with using the term "wonks"?
[15:42] <diddledan_> i.e. physics wonks
[15:42] <zmoylan-pi> boffins has unfortunately fallen out of favour...
[15:42] <diddledan_> :-(
[15:43] <diddledan_> boffin or "boff" was used as an insult when I was at school :-(
[15:45] <diddledan_> https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/671716706717446145
[15:46] <awilkins> Kittens : http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06qzmw4/meet-the-kittens-episode-1
[15:46] <awilkins> (have just get_iplayered the lot, so I can go "Awwwwwwwww" and cheer myself up)
[15:47] <awilkins> Episode 1 is a bit pants
[15:47] <awilkins> They're too small and not active enough to be interesting
[15:50] <zmoylan-pi> then watch simons cat... https://www.youtube.com/user/simonscat
[15:54] <diddledan_> lol @ microsoft trying to be friendly: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/12/01/microsofts-holiday-ad-peace/
[15:58] <awilkins> Would love it if Apple responded to "Peace" with "WAR"
[15:58] <zmoylan-pi> would have loved if some crazy tux costumed linux user legged it in and photobombed the shoot :-)
[16:05] <daftykins> i have just been to pinch the Surface Pro 4 :o
[16:05] <daftykins> wow it's light
[16:09] <diddledan_> :-)
[16:14] <daftykins> they're very snazzily made
[16:14] <daftykins> this pen thing is quite funny :P
[16:14] <daftykins> i'm using it to avoid smudging up the screen
[16:15] <diddledan_> draw us a picture :-)
[16:15]  * zmoylan-pi remembers using stylus on psions and palms and cleaning the screen maybe once a week at most..,
[16:16] <diddledan_> pen != stylus :-p
[16:16] <zmoylan-pi> but android and iphones are icky and need to be wiped much more often...
[16:22] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yx5by5jfb1dq4nq/IMG_20151201_162115.jpg?dl=0
[16:22] <daftykins> *cough*
[16:24] <diddledan_> :-p
[16:25] <daftykins> well err, there's a new one on me
[16:25] <daftykins> i got it to boot the newer win10 build flash drive, but naturally no input works ;)
[16:27] <awilkins> The Palm screen was grey/green at the back though
[16:27] <awilkins> Wouldn't show the fingerprints
[16:28] <zmoylan-pi> oh it did but the os was designed to be more efficent with stlus
[16:28] <zmoylan-pi> *stylus
[16:28] <awilkins> Yeah, I liked Graffiti (1)
[16:28] <awilkins> Such a pity they had to alter it because of a patent claim
[16:29] <daftykins> the above drawing was really impressive, it genuinely felt like i had a pen on paper
[16:30] <zmoylan-pi> which was eventually ruled bogus but they stuck with grafitti 2
[16:33] <awilkins> Happily you could plunk a copy of the old library on and get Graffiti 1 (at least on the Palm III(
[16:33] <awilkins> I still have my Palm III somewhere
[16:34] <awilkins> And because it used removable AAA batteries, it doesn't have a dead battery pack.
[16:34] <awilkins> I so wanted them to port PalmOS to the Nintendo DS
[16:34] <zmoylan-pi> i had a visor neo with an added sd card slot... great device
[16:35] <daftykins> :)
[16:36] <zmoylan-pi> after my iiic after my iiix
[16:36] <diddledan_> daftykins: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkw7wyaxstadh24/Microsoft-Edge-Web-Notes--ubuntu-u171008984.jpg?dl=0
[16:37] <diddledan_> heh @ my email
[16:37] <diddledan_> oops :-p
[16:37] <daftykins> XD
[16:37] <daftykins> we knew it anyway ;)
[16:37] <diddledan_> lol
[16:37] <diddledan_> tis fairly guessable :-D
[16:38] <zmoylan-pi> and in response to your greeting... http://imgur.com/feMoCPI :-D
[16:38] <diddledan_> I find it odd that some services use knowing the email address as a viable proof that you're allowed to reset a password
[16:39] <diddledan_> especially when they say something like "complete the email 'da*********@bowlhat.net'"
[16:41] <diddledan_> I wonder how much a 48inch super-wide touchscreen would cost
[16:42] <diddledan_> (to combine with a surface)
[16:42] <zmoylan-pi> depends on the truck it fell out of the back off... :-)
[16:42] <diddledan_> I like lots of desktop
[16:42] <zmoylan-pi> you'd be scrolling for days to get the mouse cursor all the way from one side of screen to other...
[16:43] <diddledan_> I've got two 24inch thingies right now so it wouldn't be anything different
[16:43] <zmoylan-pi> i used to have a little program that would change the sensitivity for people i liked to annoy... :-P
[16:44] <diddledan_> isn't that built-in?
[16:44] <zmoylan-pi> 1-2 a week set to slow.... at random...
[16:44] <zmoylan-pi> kept my boss amused...
[16:44] <zmoylan-pi> he kept thinking it was a faulty mouse and had a huge pile on his desk
[16:45] <zmoylan-pi> that and using vnc to move his mouse cursor a few mm to the right just before he clicked...
[16:51] <diddledan_> oh dear : https://twitter.com/WhatsTrending/status/671705583800688640
[16:52] <awilkins> Hahahahahah
[16:53] <zmoylan-pi> not the only ones to slip up... http://s198.photobucket.com/user/dailyfuzzone/media/brown.png.html
[16:55] <diddledan_> I think that one is fake
[16:55] <zmoylan-pi> http://uk.complex.com/style/2014/08/logos-that-are-accidentally-sexually-explicit/deccan-engineering-enterprise
[16:55] <zmoylan-pi> no it's just a mirror image of the zune logo.  i remember it on the day it was launched as someone noticed it reflection of their bag and pointed it out online iirc
[16:56] <zmoylan-pi> and once you've seen it you can't unsee it...
[17:04] <diddledan_> I really should stop following sourceforge on the twits
[17:04] <diddledan_> https://twitter.com/sourceforge/status/671736313503195136 <-- apparently customising your web browser involves completely replacing
[17:05] <diddledan_> I'm betting they're promoting that because they have a spyware/adware in the installer
[17:14] <pwaring> diddledan_: I no longer download anything from SF
[17:14] <pwaring> Which is sad, because it was once the old GitHub
[17:15] <diddledan_> yeah
[17:16] <diddledan_> hmm, so if a hard disk dies and I've not backed-it-up can I sue Western Digital for compensation now? re: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/pensioner-wins-compensation-after-apple-wipes-his-photos/ar-AAfSTJm?ocid=spartandhp
[17:39] <diddledan_> http://definitelyrealquotes.com/?id=10_7
[17:39] <diddledan_> deary be
[17:41] <diddledan_> lol @ http://definitelyrealquotes.com/?id=0_11
[17:41] <daftykins> domain seems legit
[17:42] <diddledan_> NSFW, but I can totally see winston saying this: http://definitelyrealquotes.com/?id=12_1
[17:43] <daftykins> he was quite lost if he needed to call the US services
[17:43] <diddledan_> http://definitelyrealquotes.com/?id=2_6
[17:43] <diddledan_> good ol' aristotle
[17:44] <diddledan_> then there's gandhi: http://definitelyrealquotes.com/?id=5_5
[17:45] <diddledan_> from clicking a few times, the id is <person>_<quote>
[17:46] <diddledan_> so http://definitelyrealquotes.com/?id=5_6 is the same quote as aristotle
[17:54] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:04] <diddledan_> I love these two geeks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSjL1lrNAx4
[18:05] <diddledan_> "a browser could send a message to say 'could you not, mate?'."
[18:10] <diddledan_> https://twitter.com/shanselman/status/671752256975323136
[18:11] <daftykins> i had to tag in iTunes for Windows the other day
[18:11] <daftykins> if you have "Artist blah" and you want to delete blah, it won't let you highlight " blah"
[18:11] <daftykins> or rather it does, but pressing delete or backspace does nothing
[18:11] <daftykins> it was a fine experience
[18:12] <daftykins> oh then i plugged in the clients' 3 iPods and it recognised none, so all 3 had to be wiped and synced from scratch
[18:12] <daftykins> :D
[18:14] <bittin> http://foss-sthlm.haxx.se/rms2016.html
[18:17] <diddledan_> yeah, we don't speak swedish
[18:18] <zmoylan-pi> bork? :-P
[18:18] <diddledan_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE
[18:18] <diddledan_> der popper der corn
[18:30] <diddledan_> I need to watch the start warts saga from end-to-end before the new film drops in a couple weeks
[18:31] <diddledan_> ergh, and it's my brother's birthday soon. need to find something gifty
[18:37] <daftykins> :D
[18:52] <diddledan_> don't you love how supervillians have as their real names things like "victor von doom"
[18:53] <diddledan_> (/me watching fantastic four)
[18:53] <zmoylan-pi> it's the number of them who seem to have phd's that worries me.  what sort of people are colleges and universities accepting?!
[18:53] <diddledan_> lol
[18:53] <diddledan_> good point
[18:54] <zmoylan-pi> so under goals on your admission forms you have 'world conquest' fair enough we have lectures on doomsday devices once a week...
[18:54] <diddledan_> :-)
[18:55] <diddledan_> "I see you have a lack of empathy listed in your psychological profile. how would you like a team to boss around?"
[18:56] <zmoylan-pi> all new team members get a free t-shirt with their blood group printed on it...
[18:58] <zmoylan-pi> of course if they try and sign up for a msce then we would know they are going to do evil... :-P
[18:58] <diddledan_> oh god, that's a whole different level of evil altogether
[18:59] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: oh just seen that from earlier, well I do speak SWedish
[19:00] <diddledan_> anyone who can subject themselves to that amount of self-flagellation is destined to subject the world to unheard-of pain
[19:00] <zmoylan-pi> they'd use ms office with clippy turned *ON*...
[19:01] <diddledan_> sebsebseb: can you translate the swedish chef in the muppets?
[19:01] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: O..M..G!!
[19:01] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: some of it just sound stupid, but I got TV on in background to so
[19:01] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: but yes I could transltae most actsual Swedish into ENglish
[19:01] <sebsebseb> speech
[19:02] <zmoylan-pi> and if that's not a straight to a rubber room with a stick between their teeth i don't know what is...
[19:02] <diddledan_> lol @ actual swedish - I'm guessing the chef isn't actual then
[19:02] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: I'll watch it properly hold on
[19:02] <sebsebseb> or properly enough
[19:02] <sebsebseb> ,but some of it just sound stupid
[19:02] <diddledan_> der poppen der korn
[19:02] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: there's also ENglish in the video you linked to as well by the way
[19:03] <diddledan_> der shrimpie
[19:05] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: yes the chef is just speaking made up stuff it seems, that's not SWedish
[19:07] <diddledan_> I figured :-)
[19:08] <sebsebseb> who has a Ubuntu phone here :d ?
[19:08] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: look what Youtube bought up after the muppet video heh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-MbfHFUqs
[19:09] <diddledan_> lol
[19:09] <diddledan_> gotta love prediction algorithms
[19:09] <sebsebseb> diddledan_: used to hear that one in the car sometimes, as a kid, on the way to the zoo :d heh
[20:26] <diddledan_> oh dear: http://www.geek.com/games/amds-new-crimson-drivers-are-overheating-and-damaging-graphics-cards-1640676/
[21:08] <daftykins> apparently nvidia did it once too
[21:09] <diddledan_> yey?
[21:10] <diddledan_> surely on these cold nights it's good to have a few extra watts of heat, no?
[21:11] <daftykins> not when the machine topples over i suppose :>
[21:12] <daftykins> hmm, i never really thought about it before but if you've got some general compute task running on a graphics card, can the rest lock up and yet the program keep going on the card? :D
[21:12] <diddledan_> no idea
[21:12] <daftykins> then the result is trapped!
[21:15] <diddledan_> don't you love how politicians think it's best not to investigate politicians? https://twitter.com/the_intercept/status/671788224117874693
[21:19] <diddledan_> ouch, popey has a terrible connection speed today according to his twits!
[21:19] <diddledan_> (almost wrote that as "according to his tits" before I spotted and corrected)
[21:19] <diddledan_> ref: https://twitter.com/popey/status/671765284689158144
[21:20] <diddledan_> 0.4Mbps is TERRIBLE
[21:20] <diddledan_> still there's a whole 31% of the UK that are slower than that?!
[21:21] <diddledan_> yeesh
[21:25] <popey> stupid internets
[21:25]  * diddledan_ pets
[21:25] <diddledan_> perhaps you've been overworking it and it needs a rest
[21:26] <diddledan_> anthropomorphic modems for the win!