[15:40] <NOOB> so i can assign it
[15:42] <NOOB> please ping me if you can help
[18:40] <cimbakahn> Is there any reason for the screensaver to activate at startup?
[18:41] <wxl> cimbakahn: the dæmon runs so it can turn on at the specified interval.
[18:47] <bioterror> wxl, I like your, maybe danish accent ;)
[18:47] <wxl> XD
[19:49] <Loke-ion> hello, wondering if anyone can help me. I decided to try some linux distro on my old notebook. I have tried ubuntu (lags a bit), lubuntu, lxle. Notebook has a n280 1.6GHz 1c/2t cpu, 2GB ram, nvidia ION LE gpu
[19:50] <wxl> Loke-ion: not sure what your question is.
[19:50] <Loke-ion> on pretty much all of them LTS or latest seems there is not full driver support for the gpu. Also I am unable to change the brightness. Changing from nouveau to nvidia doesn't help
[19:50] <wxl> Loke-ion: what makes you think driver support is lacking?
[19:50] <bioterror> propietary driver should support Ion quite well?
[19:51] <bioterror> I have Ion2 board
[19:51] <Loke-ion> outside brightness, when I login I get broken bits of stuff that look from my windows 7 partition
[19:51] <Loke-ion> a friend said it's unassigned memory something
[19:51] <wxl> screenshot might be helpful
[19:52] <Loke-ion> https://i.lokie.eu/eCU2mXvf1UYX.mp4 this is from when I tried lubuntu
[19:53] <wxl> is a screenshot possible? i don't feel like downloading an mp4.
[19:53] <Loke-ion> you can stream it normally
[19:53] <Loke-ion> here you go https://i.lokie.eu/t/llyrrBPLc4IM.png
[19:54] <wxl> desktop seems fine
[19:54] <wxl> what's it look like when opening a window?
[19:54] <Loke-ion> after it finishes login in it's fine
[19:55] <Loke-ion> a friend who is a software engineer said the above is: uninitialized video card memory
[19:55] <Loke-ion> which means lack of full driver support
[19:55] <wxl> Loke-ion: sounds like you should have your friend submit some patches XD
[19:55] <bioterror> are you using porpietary driver or the opensource one?
[19:56] <Loke-ion> bioterror nouveau, tried the propietary driver too
[19:56] <Loke-ion> latest and legacy
[19:56] <Loke-ion> on lubuntu and lxle
[19:56] <bioterror> and same?
[19:56] <Loke-ion> wxl yea well doubt he will be very interested
[19:57] <Loke-ion> I think so yea, have done so many reinstalls I am losing count
[19:57] <wxl> Loke-ion: if that is the problem, someone either needs to fix the problem in nouveau or you can hope and pray nvidia fixes it
[19:57] <wxl> Loke-ion: chances with the latter are small, of course
[19:58] <wxl> Loke-ion: nouveau is not an ubuntu product
[19:58] <Loke-ion> I get systemd failed to load /path/video card something while it loads
[19:58] <wxl> you can report a bug here" https://wiki.freedesktop.org/nouveau/Bugs/
[19:58] <Loke-ion> to load ACL*
[19:58] <Loke-ion> ok driver aside
[19:58] <wxl> "something" is not very descriptive. we'd need the full details
[19:59] <Loke-ion> any idea about the brightness problem?
[19:59] <Loke-ion> let me reboot it again wxl didn't have enough time to read it
[19:59] <wxl> they may be related actually
[19:59] <wxl> Loke-ion: don't
[19:59] <wxl> Loke-ion: you should be able to find it in /var/log/dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[19:59] <Loke-ion> well too late
[20:00] <wxl> i don't see an ION LE here https://wiki.freedesktop.org/nouveau/CodeNames/
[20:01] <wxl> Loke-ion: from what i see nouveau doesn't fully support the ion
[20:01] <Loke-ion> systemd-udevd[413]: Failed to apply ACL on /dev/dri/card1: No such file or directory
[20:02] <Loke-ion> doubt if even nvidia fully does :P looks more like a one time thing they did for net/note books
[20:02] <wxl> Loke-ion: doubtful that's related.
[20:02] <wxl> yeah this is the problem with nvidia unfortunately
[20:03] <Loke-ion> so I am stuck changing brightness from the terminal
[20:03] <wxl> well it's possible the media key isn't recognized
[20:03] <Loke-ion> if I use the brightness app on lxle it changes it but to me looks more like it applies a gray filter on it
[20:03] <Loke-ion> cause the mouse pointer stays the same "bright"
[20:04] <wxl> you can use the openbox settings to change what keys do what
[20:04] <wxl> you just need to find out what key you have
[20:05] <Loke-ion> mm on other distro fn was being registered as in I got the pop up with the bar
[20:06] <Loke-ion> but no real change was happening
[20:06] <Loke-ion> also fn for audio works in lxle
[20:06] <wxl> so steal the openbox settings from lxle and apply them to lubuntu
[20:06] <wxl> but change the program used to the one you use on the command line
[20:09] <wxl> ugh finally found it. xev will report what key is being input, Loke-ion
[20:10] <wxl> Loke-ion: or evtest
[20:10] <wxl> Loke-ion: or xinput test
[20:11] <wxl> Loke-ion: xinput is a little weird to use, though, as you need the id of the device from xinput list
[20:12] <Loke-ion> um thanks though that will take some time
[20:12] <Loke-ion> not familiar with all that
[20:14] <Loke-ion> anyway wxl thank you, will try to play around a bit and see what I manage
[20:15] <Loke-ion> btw if I remember correctly on ubuntu 15.10 brightness worked fine anyway to find out what it has the others don't?
[20:15] <wxl> Loke-ion: after you get some output back on what key is being used, i can help you hack your confgig
[20:16] <wxl> Loke-ion: sure. just find where all the hotkeys are defined and see what keycodes and what-have-you it uses
[20:16] <Loke-ion> :P
[20:16] <Loke-ion> yea that's well out of my skill level but I 'll see what I can do
[20:17] <wxl> Loke-ion: unfortunately, i don't know where that is as i don't use ubuntu, but you could ask on #ubuntu
[20:18] <Loke-ion> alright will see if I can do it on weekend, got the logs from here so I should probably manage to explain myself
[20:35] <Gnjurac> hi
[20:36] <Gnjurac> leafpad is 700kb and when i try to install gedit it asks for 47mb wtf, is gedit that big or is id downloading whole gnome tree or somthign
[20:37] <bioterror> gedit likes gnome packages
[20:38] <bioterror> how about apt-get install --no-install-recommends gedit
[20:38] <bioterror> does it make the size smaller?
[20:45] <Gnjurac> w8
[20:45] <Gnjurac> i check
[20:45] <Gnjurac> sorry waz other tab
[20:46] <Gnjurac> yes now its 9733kB
[20:52] <Gnjurac> in the end i installed mausepad
[20:52] <Gnjurac> i only wnated sytacs highling
[21:00] <Gnjurac> how to make
[21:00] <Gnjurac> binbash script
[21:01] <Gnjurac> not ask on duble click to execute or not
[21:42] <caraka> Greetings. I maintain a PPA for a prject, and I have a lubuntu user who insists that the .desktop launcher doesn't exist, but I know it does. Where does one find them in lubuntu? in /usr/share/applications like the other flavours?
[21:56] <Techno568> Hello. Is lbuntu better than ubuntu for old computers
[21:57] <genii> Yes.
[22:01] <caraka> that was quick'
[22:20] <genii> caraka: Short and sweet ;)
[22:21] <caraka> yes. and I got my lubuntu user sorted out too. Of course it's all in the default directory :P
[22:22] <caraka> thank goodness for lightweight distros. More linux converts by the day
[22:22] <genii> Gives more life to old equipment, simpler to understand
[22:23] <caraka> exactly