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diddledan_oh no! humpty dumpty fell off his wall!03:09
daftykinsdiddledan_: D: not his wall!04:54
daftykinsalso you appear to have clones04:54
diddledanyes! his wall!04:54
zmoylan-pithat's just diddledan, always cloning around...04:55
daftykinshehe yeah, if i had a guernsey £1 note for every time...04:55
daftykinshmm i'm debating going down the working man's cafe when it opens at 6am for a good fry up!04:55
zmoylan-piyou'd have a lot of money that would take forever to spend on mainland as you'd have to explain it's real money each and every time... :-)04:57
daftykinsit's refused :(04:57
zmoylan-pii thought it was like northern ireland or scottish money, legit in england?04:58
diddledandon't be silly. he prints them himself05:00
daftykinsi got roped into going to a clients' cleaners place to look at a dodgy router in a house shared by about 8 Latvian immigrant folks05:01
daftykinshalp...05:01
diddledanoh dear05:04
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daftykinshmm some place predicts that by 2017 SSDs will cost only 7p per GB more than HDDs05:15
MartijnVdSsounds  about right05:16
zmoylan-pii _might_ have ssd by then :-)05:16
MartijnVdS1TB SSDs are €200 now05:16
daftykins3D NAND has been the saviour for sure05:19
daftykinsso Mozilla are giving Thunderbird the chop :O05:20
zmoylan-pii miss hardcards... a hard disk stuck on a wafer thin daughter board wobbling over your mother board like a sword of damocles... :-)05:20
diddledanI want an NVMe epeen05:25
diddledanmoar disk!05:25
daftykinsi find it odd how i had to update that thar Surface05:26
daftykinsstill had to select to murder the old OS backup in disk cleanup, too05:26
daftykinsdo the factory reset type options do much on surfaces?05:27
diddledanI'm dirty06:09
diddledanI'm messing about with visual studio06:09
daftykinsD:06:10
daftykinsnever played with surface wiping options then, sir?06:10
diddledannope06:10
daftykinsyour kitchen must be a bacteria playground! ;D06:11
diddledan:-p06:11
zmoylan-piit hardens the immune system... and they have shares in andrex... :-P06:12
MooDoohello all09:04
davmor2Morning all09:05
MooDoohowdy davmor209:05
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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:46
bashrc_g'day09:47
daftykinso/09:48
brobostigonmorning bashrc_ and daftykins09:48
daftykinsno sign of the posties :(09:49
brobostigon:(09:50
MooDoodaftykins: waiting for goodies?09:51
daftykinsmmhmm09:52
daftykinsan SSD that was on amazon's deals, a Nexus 5 LCD from China and more09:54
MyrttiI was impressed by the speed the Moto360 made its way from China09:59
MyrttiI think we ordered it on Thursday evening and it arrived yesterday09:59
daftykinsfree shipping off ebay here, so it said 1-17 December10:03
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy International Day for the Abolition of Slavery! 😃10:27
davmor2JamesTait: not exactly slavery but I think the sentiment is right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgcTvoWjZJU10:47
davmor2JamesTait: and then there is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1CMCtV4to which is a slavery people don't mind so much ;)10:48
MyrttiI can't remember the name of the pdf annotation app that I used years and years ago... gah10:58
davmor2Myrtti: foxit/okular/xournal/evince all do it off the top of my head11:03
Myrttixournal, thassit11:03
MyrttiI don't think evince does any11:04
davmor2Myrtti: https://help.gnome.org/users/evince/stable/annotations.html.en11:06
davmor2Myrtti: just not so pretty11:06
davmor2Myrtti: glad to be of help anyway :)11:07
Myrttiah right11:08
Myrttithank you11:08
awilkinsIME Okular is the best Linux PDF viewer that does annotations11:16
awilkinsThe evince annotations are done in an external file and don't translate to Adobe's PDF reader11:16
awilkinsOkular annotations are done in the standard PDF/A way and do carry over11:16
davmor2awilkins: personally I think pdftk is the best ;)11:24
davmor2awilkins: xournal is the same iirc11:25
awilkinsXournal is a PDF viewer?11:25
awilkinsAnd pdftk is Windows only AFAICT11:26
Myrttidoctor's wants some of my papers and I needed to translate them a bit, so annotations it is11:26
davmor2awilkins: sudo apt install pdftk it was on linux first ;)11:27
awilkinsThose wags at PDF Labs11:28
davmor2awilkins: it's a cli tool that uses cat seriously you think that was a windows only tool :)11:28
awilkinsI think combined media notetaking apps are sadly deficient, TBH11:28
awilkinsBut I don;t have a coherent plan to improve them without thinking hard about it11:28
davmor2awilkins: I think most of the tutuorials you find online are windows only cause linux users know how to read man pages and use --help :)11:29
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foobarrywow, good guy zuckerburg13:31
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* SuperEngineer notices his name must be in code in Zuckerburg's letter as it's not mentioned specifically- supposes he doesn't want to embarrass me13:42
foobarrypeople need to stop using foo13:44
foobarryfound a file /tmp/foo with 2 different logs in13:44
foobarrysomebody did a blah > /tmp/foo13:44
foobarrysomebody else did a script that opened /tmp/foo and wrote more stuff13:44
SuperEngineerwould you rather they used /tmp/barry foobarry?13:45
foobarryyes13:45
SuperEngineer;-)13:45
davmor2they could use foobar13:57
foobarryits all naughty13:57
foobarryuse proper file names in production13:58
davmor2foobarry: no13:58
foobarry:013:58
davmor2foobarry: the issue is lots of people just copy paste  the examples from the internet without thinking I'll call the file x.log instead of foo13:59
foobarrythis was a script written inhouse14:00
foobarrynot sure if my biggest gripe is that foo is undescriptive as a log name, or is common so might get splatted by another unimaginative person14:01
diploBit of nboth probably foobarry14:07
diplo-n14:07
diploYou would hate to see all our internal and customer servers, you'd probably scream ( i do :D )14:12
foobarrybeen screaming a lot already today14:18
foobarryny NFS server is extremly slow14:45
foobarrylike bytes/sec instead of 1Gb/s14:45
foobarrysomething is afoot14:45
diploI've never got on with NFS, then again not used it in years14:46
diploAlways had issues with speeds14:46
MooDooI use NFS for my storage/backup solutions, it seems ok for what I want until I just get a single NAS and remove all my servers14:51
foobarrygonna use async option14:52
diplobigcalm: hadn't checked on letsencypt for a while, ta fanx15:02
diploSet up and ready to try tomorrow night :)15:02
SuperMattmy website is signed by let's encrypt15:06
SuperMattI found a bug in it, submitted a patch, and then got it accepted :)15:06
SuperMattit didn't like TLDs longer than 6 characters, but with the new TLDs, they can be as long as 6315:07
SuperMatt.digital was just too longer for LE until I came along ;)15:07
diploGood man :) opensource in action15:07
SuperMattI was dead proud of myself :)15:10
SuperMattit's a shame it's still in closed beta, but it's quite easy to find the form15:10
diddledanm0015:12
diddledanit goes public tomorrow afaik15:13
foobarryhow do i know if my nfs mount is async or sync?15:14
foobarrydoesn't want to tell me15:14
diployup it does, at 6pm on the 3rd GMT15:14
SuperMattif it doesn't tell you, it's the default15:14
SuperMattwhich you could probably find by running "man mount.nfs"15:14
foobarryyeah, nothing there15:15
* diddledan still messing in MS Visual Studio >.<15:15
diddledanit's actually not bad15:15
SuperMattfoobarry: man nfs might tell you15:16
davmor2diddledan: don't make me get out of this chair.....15:16
SuperMattI think it's in async mode15:16
SuperMatt"If neither sync nor async is specified (or if the async option is specified), the NFS client..."15:16
diddledandavmor2, I hear that. sitting ftw15:16
SuperMattwhich suggests async is the default15:17
foobarryi was just reading that bit15:17
foobarrydoesn't look like async is my problem then15:17
SuperMatthave you tried doing cat /etc/mtab?15:18
SuperMattthat should expand all the options beyond just their defaults15:18
SuperMattthough I could be wrong15:18
foobarryrw,relatime,vers=4.0,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,port=0,timeo=600,retrans=2,sec=sys,clientaddr=192.168.42.15,local_lock=none,addr=192.168.42.21 0 015:18
foobarrywin 915:18
SuperMattI'm almost certain async is the default15:19
SuperMattbut you've moved on past that, obviously15:19
diddledanoh dear, that global-ish message doesn't sound fun15:50
diddledan"appears a hub went boom"!!15:51
SuperMattthey're pretty quick kon the notification there15:55
SuperMatt10 minutes it's very good15:55
diddledanindeed. very good response for a volunteer effort15:56
daftykinswussat?15:57
diddledandaftykins, freenode is broke15:58
diddledandaftykins, someone lost a hub15:58
daftykinsah15:59
* daftykins checks the status window15:59
daftykinsthere it is!15:59
zmoylan-pithey've been taken over by the peoples front of judea...16:01
diddledanthe popular peoples front of judea**16:01
diddledannot to be confused with the peoples front of popular judea16:01
zmoylan-pinah, they're just splitters...16:02
diddledanbignose!16:02
zmoylan-piblessed are the cheesemakers...16:03
zmoylan-pi /n16:09
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