/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/12/02/#ubuntu-za.txt

magespawngood morning04:57
pieter2627morning all05:25
AtJackHello everyone06:28
AtJackWhen is the next meeting?06:28
inetprogood mornings07:23
ateKoremorning07:34
Kilosmorning all and sundry09:35
Kiloshi AtJack 12:59
AtJackHi12:59
Kilosyou the same jack that has just moved to za12:59
Kilosthe one that enquired about the mailing list?13:03
antonwazzuuppp peeps13:20
pieter2627hello AtJack and welcome to the channel. am not sure when is the next meeting, possibly 22nd Dec - we still have to discuss it or something...13:37
pieter2627bye all o/13:37
Kilos-hi piet14:01
Kilos-Aai!14:02
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Kilossjoe daily updates14:54
inetproKilos: yeah, they going crazy again15:27
Kilosis it all to keep things secure?15:27
Kilosfrom bad guys i mean15:28
inetprodepends15:29
inetproKilos: what version of Ubuntu are you on?15:30
Kilosi dont understand, because everything is working fine15:30
Kilos14.04 kde15:30
Kilosand its not getting better i think so then it must be to keep it secure15:31
inetproUbuntu Security Notices: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/15:32
Kiloskde 14.04 has been great15:32
grembleKilos: There are perhaps some niggles that you haven't come across that they fixed15:33
grembleOr to add features that you don't necessarily use15:33
Kilosyay15:33
inetproeach case has its own merits15:33
grembleJust because you don't see the changes, doesn't meant that they aren't there :P15:33
Kilosjust heavy on mobile data users15:33
grembleIf you are curious to see what changed, you should look at the changelogs for each update15:33
Kilosnana no energy15:34
* inetpro often looks at changelogs just out of curiosity to see what changed15:34
grembleOn an LTS distro you probably don't have to update that much. 15:34
Kilos[17:46] [Notice] -mist- [Global-ish notice] Hmm, appears a hub went boom. Services are unavailable whilst we figure out where it went. 15:50
Kiloshehe15:50
Kiloswb gremble what did you break16:07
Kilosi dropped down to 4 nicks here16:07
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kulelu88Hey guys18:08
inetprogood mornings kulelu8818:09
kulelu88howzit mates?18:10
Kilosinetpro ping18:23
inetproKilos: pong18:24
Kilosim trying to help ian via cell18:24
inetprojust do it!18:24
Kilosto upgrade a lucid server18:24
inetpro:-)18:24
Kilosto 14.0418:24
Kilosdont be funny man18:24
inetprolucid is easy to understand18:25
Kilosis there a command to upgrade please18:25
inetproMaaz: define lucid18:25
Maazinetpro: Lucid \Lu"cid\, a. [L. lucidus, fr. lux, lucis, light. See {Light}, n.] 1. Shining; bright; resplendent; as, the lucid orbs of heaven. [1913 Webster]  Lucid, like a glowworm.               --Sir I. Newton. [1913 Webster]  A court compact of lucid marbles.     --Tennyson. [1913 Webster]  2. Clear; transparent. " Lucid streams." --Milton. [1913 Webster]  3.18:25
MaazPresenting a clear view; easily understood; clear. [1913 Webster]  A lucid and interestin…18:25
inetprooops, you mean Ubuntu Lucid18:26
Kilosin update manager it does give he option yo upgrade18:26
Kilosya man18:26
Kilos10.0418:26
inetproLucid Lynx 10.0418:26
inetprohmm...18:26
Kiloscan one upgrade 10.04 to 14.418:26
inetprofrom 10.04 to 14.04 is quite a jump... I wouldn't do it18:27
Kilosis clean install better18:27
inetprowhy would he want to upgrade this way?18:27
Kilosand rsync home18:27
Kilossupport ended18:28
inetproin other words how big is the risk of loosing something?18:28
Kiloshe has tonight to get it going18:28
inetpros/of/if/18:28
Kiloswe rsyncing home18:28
inetprohaha... you and your rsyncing of home...18:29
inetproyou sure everything important is just in /home ?18:30
Kilosi dunno18:30
Kilosthats why im asking you18:30
inetproif you don't know, don't even try to start the upgrade18:30
kulelu88upgrading from 10 to 14 is dangerous18:30
kulelu88always backup first18:30
kulelu88then upgrade from disk18:30
Kiloswhat about t0 12.04 then 14.0418:31
kulelu88are they all 64-bit/32-bit?18:31
inetproeasier to and quicker to re-install from scratch if you know where everything goes18:32
Kiloshow do you see 32 or 64 bit18:32
Kilosai!18:33
inetprouname -p18:33
Kilosty18:34
inetproor rather 'uname -i'18:34
inetproKilos: but as mentioned above, 12/02 20:30:53 <kulelu88> always backup first18:35
Kilosgives nothing18:36
kulelu88you just need to backup your user-content and have a text file/screenshot showing what software you have installed18:36
Kilosunknown18:37
Kilosis all user content in /home18:37
inetproKilos: arch18:39
Kiloskulelu88 can i do all that with commands18:39
kulelu88go up to the root and then go back down18:39
Kilosim on the fone to him18:39
kulelu88tell him to come here so we can help18:39
Kiloslemme try get him here18:44
Kilossomething wrong there18:48
Kilos1g home has already rsynced 4 gig and still going18:49
superflyohi18:49
magespawnhey superfly18:50
magespawnsuperfly did you see the comments about the ubuntu-za.org website on the mailing list?18:51
superflymagespawn: uh, I don't know. probably not. I'm quite behind with non-critical e-mail18:51
grembleIt apparently reacts strangly with narrow resolutions18:52
magespawnno worries, not that important, just at certain window sizes the top menu bar cuts the top heading18:53
Kilossjoe18:54
magespawni got a screen shot from lee, i will paste it for you18:55
wolfeyes_isevening everyone18:55
superflymorning wolfeyes_is18:55
wolfeyes_iskulelu88, here he is18:55
kulelu88evening18:56
grembleHey kulelu88 18:56
kulelu88plus superfly is here, so you will get expert help wolfeyes_is 18:56
wolfeyes_isheya superfly 18:56
kulelu88yo gremble 18:56
superflyonly the half of my brain not concentrating on DebConf18:56
wolfeyes_isI know superfly is awesome ;-)18:57
kulelu88fuck I hate wordpress and magento even more18:59
wolfeyes_isbrb18:59
Kilosai18:59
kulelu88superfly: it's free right? when is debconf?19:00
tumbleweedit's free19:01
tumbleweedhttp://debconf16.debconf.org/19:01
superflykulelu88: you must come!19:02
kulelu88aah still long to go19:02
kulelu88I would like to19:02
kulelu88I'm going to get an anti-systemd tshirt printed also19:02
grembleI wonder if I can gather cash to go :o19:03
kulelu88how much help do you guys need? I can do bits and bobs if needed19:03
tumbleweedkulelu88: right now we're looking for someone to help attendees get visas. http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20151126.153514.24934830.en.html19:04
superflykulelu88: a good place to start is probably here: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf1619:04
kulelu88okay that is doable, but we all know that home affairs and their ilk can be assholes at the best of times19:06
tumbleweedkulelu88: if you're interested, contact ginggs http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20151126.172801.09197c07.en.html19:11
magespawnhere you go superfly http://pasteboard.co/2zUXc7br.png19:11
kulelu88tumbleweed: were you at PyCon?19:13
tumbleweedkulelu88: yep19:15
kulelu88Long hair and glasses? tumbleweed 19:15
tumbleweedthat's me19:15
kulelu88aah small world :d19:15
tumbleweedheh yeah, ZA tech world is19:16
kulelu88what do you do at your day job? tumbleweed 19:23
tumbleweedI run the ops team at Yola19:28
kulelu88aah that's cool19:33
magespawnbed time for me, good night all20:02
magespawn\/exit20:02
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Kiloshow do i get a list of installed packages please kulelu88 20:22
Kilosohi sup20:22
Kilosai20:22
Kilossuperfly 20:23
kulelu88uhmmm20:23
Kilosone hnd holding fone dont work20:23
superflyMaaz: google for ubuntu get a list of installed packages20:23
Maazsuperfly: "apt - How to list all installed packages? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages :: "dpkg - Get list of installed packages? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/327370/get-list-of-installed-packages :: "apt - How to list installed package and its details on ubuntu? - Ask ..."20:23
Maazhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/389715/how-to-list-installed-package-and-its-details-on-ubuntu :: "ListInstalledPa…20:23
kulelu88he can open ubuntu software centre and find it there20:23
kulelu88or that ^^^20:23
Kilosty superfly 20:23
kulelu88hey superfly . you ever worked with postfix before?20:43
superflya bit20:43
Kilosty for the help guys 20:47
Kilosnight all sleep tight20:47
Kilosian must battle on his own im tired21:22
inetprohmm21:28
inetprogood night 21:29

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