[04:57] good morning [05:25] morning all [06:28] Hello everyone [06:28] When is the next meeting? [07:23] good mornings [07:34] morning [09:35] morning all and sundry [12:59] hi AtJack [12:59] Hi [12:59] you the same jack that has just moved to za [13:03] the one that enquired about the mailing list? [13:20] wazzuuppp peeps [13:37] hello AtJack and welcome to the channel. am not sure when is the next meeting, possibly 22nd Dec - we still have to discuss it or something... [13:37] bye all o/ [14:01] hi piet [14:02] Aai! === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [14:54] sjoe daily updates [15:27] Kilos: yeah, they going crazy again [15:27] is it all to keep things secure? [15:28] from bad guys i mean [15:29] depends [15:30] Kilos: what version of Ubuntu are you on? [15:30] i dont understand, because everything is working fine [15:30] 14.04 kde [15:31] and its not getting better i think so then it must be to keep it secure [15:32] Ubuntu Security Notices: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ [15:32] kde 14.04 has been great [15:33] Kilos: There are perhaps some niggles that you haven't come across that they fixed [15:33] Or to add features that you don't necessarily use [15:33] yay [15:33] each case has its own merits [15:33] Just because you don't see the changes, doesn't meant that they aren't there :P [15:33] just heavy on mobile data users [15:33] If you are curious to see what changed, you should look at the changelogs for each update [15:34] nana no energy [15:34] * inetpro often looks at changelogs just out of curiosity to see what changed [15:34] On an LTS distro you probably don't have to update that much. [15:50] [17:46] [Notice] -mist- [Global-ish notice] Hmm, appears a hub went boom. Services are unavailable whilst we figure out where it went. [15:50] hehe [16:07] wb gremble what did you break [16:07] i dropped down to 4 nicks here === MaNI is now known as Guest10614 [18:08] Hey guys [18:09] good mornings kulelu88 [18:10] howzit mates? [18:23] inetpro ping [18:24] Kilos: pong [18:24] im trying to help ian via cell [18:24] just do it! [18:24] to upgrade a lucid server [18:24] :-) [18:24] to 14.04 [18:24] dont be funny man [18:25] lucid is easy to understand [18:25] is there a command to upgrade please [18:25] Maaz: define lucid [18:25] inetpro: Lucid \Lu"cid\, a. [L. lucidus, fr. lux, lucis, light. See {Light}, n.] 1. Shining; bright; resplendent; as, the lucid orbs of heaven. [1913 Webster] Lucid, like a glowworm. --Sir I. Newton. [1913 Webster] A court compact of lucid marbles. --Tennyson. [1913 Webster] 2. Clear; transparent. " Lucid streams." --Milton. [1913 Webster] 3. [18:25] Presenting a clear view; easily understood; clear. [1913 Webster] A lucid and interestin… [18:26] oops, you mean Ubuntu Lucid [18:26] in update manager it does give he option yo upgrade [18:26] ya man [18:26] 10.04 [18:26] Lucid Lynx 10.04 [18:26] hmm... [18:26] can one upgrade 10.04 to 14.4 [18:27] from 10.04 to 14.04 is quite a jump... I wouldn't do it [18:27] is clean install better [18:27] why would he want to upgrade this way? [18:27] and rsync home [18:28] support ended [18:28] in other words how big is the risk of loosing something? [18:28] he has tonight to get it going [18:28] s/of/if/ [18:28] we rsyncing home [18:29] haha... you and your rsyncing of home... [18:30] you sure everything important is just in /home ? [18:30] i dunno [18:30] thats why im asking you [18:30] if you don't know, don't even try to start the upgrade [18:30] upgrading from 10 to 14 is dangerous [18:30] always backup first [18:30] then upgrade from disk [18:31] what about t0 12.04 then 14.04 [18:31] are they all 64-bit/32-bit? [18:32] easier to and quicker to re-install from scratch if you know where everything goes [18:32] how do you see 32 or 64 bit [18:33] ai! [18:33] uname -p [18:34] ty [18:34] or rather 'uname -i' [18:35] Kilos: but as mentioned above, 12/02 20:30:53 always backup first [18:36] gives nothing [18:36] you just need to backup your user-content and have a text file/screenshot showing what software you have installed [18:37] unknown [18:37] is all user content in /home [18:39] Kilos: arch [18:39] kulelu88 can i do all that with commands [18:39] go up to the root and then go back down [18:39] im on the fone to him [18:39] tell him to come here so we can help [18:44] lemme try get him here [18:48] something wrong there [18:49] 1g home has already rsynced 4 gig and still going [18:49] ohi [18:50] hey superfly [18:51] superfly did you see the comments about the ubuntu-za.org website on the mailing list? [18:51] magespawn: uh, I don't know. probably not. I'm quite behind with non-critical e-mail [18:52] It apparently reacts strangly with narrow resolutions [18:53] no worries, not that important, just at certain window sizes the top menu bar cuts the top heading [18:54] sjoe [18:55] i got a screen shot from lee, i will paste it for you [18:55] evening everyone [18:55] morning wolfeyes_is [18:55] kulelu88, here he is [18:56] evening [18:56] Hey kulelu88 [18:56] plus superfly is here, so you will get expert help wolfeyes_is [18:56] heya superfly [18:56] yo gremble [18:56] only the half of my brain not concentrating on DebConf [18:57] I know superfly is awesome ;-) [18:59] fuck I hate wordpress and magento even more [18:59] brb [18:59] ai [19:00] superfly: it's free right? when is debconf? [19:01] it's free [19:01] http://debconf16.debconf.org/ [19:02] kulelu88: you must come! [19:02] aah still long to go [19:02] I would like to [19:02] I'm going to get an anti-systemd tshirt printed also [19:03] I wonder if I can gather cash to go :o [19:03] how much help do you guys need? I can do bits and bobs if needed [19:04] kulelu88: right now we're looking for someone to help attendees get visas. http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20151126.153514.24934830.en.html [19:04] kulelu88: a good place to start is probably here: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16 [19:06] okay that is doable, but we all know that home affairs and their ilk can be assholes at the best of times [19:11] kulelu88: if you're interested, contact ginggs http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20151126.172801.09197c07.en.html [19:11] here you go superfly http://pasteboard.co/2zUXc7br.png [19:13] tumbleweed: were you at PyCon? [19:15] kulelu88: yep [19:15] Long hair and glasses? tumbleweed [19:15] that's me [19:15] aah small world :d [19:16] heh yeah, ZA tech world is [19:23] what do you do at your day job? tumbleweed [19:28] I run the ops team at Yola [19:33] aah that's cool [20:02] bed time for me, good night all [20:02] \/exit === Guest10614 is now known as MaNI [20:22] how do i get a list of installed packages please kulelu88 [20:22] ohi sup [20:22] ai [20:23] superfly [20:23] uhmmm [20:23] one hnd holding fone dont work [20:23] Maaz: google for ubuntu get a list of installed packages [20:23] superfly: "apt - How to list all installed packages? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages :: "dpkg - Get list of installed packages? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/327370/get-list-of-installed-packages :: "apt - How to list installed package and its details on ubuntu? - Ask ..." [20:23] http://askubuntu.com/questions/389715/how-to-list-installed-package-and-its-details-on-ubuntu :: "ListInstalledPa… [20:23] he can open ubuntu software centre and find it there [20:23] or that ^^^ [20:23] ty superfly [20:43] hey superfly . you ever worked with postfix before? [20:43] a bit [20:47] ty for the help guys [20:47] night all sleep tight [21:22] ian must battle on his own im tired [21:28] hmm [21:29] good night