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| unascribed | kdialog appears to be gone in Wily, are there any good replacements for it (that also use Qt)? | 00:37 |
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| keithzg | unascribed: I don't think it's gone, just tried from a Wily install in the building and it's indeed there. | 00:39 |
| unascribed | well, after doing the upgrade kdialog is missing and the package doesn't exist | 00:39 |
| unascribed | I'll check again | 00:39 |
| keithzg | unascribed: It isn't a separate package, appears to be provided by kde-baseapps-bin | 00:40 |
| keithzg | unascribed: Looks like krdc and konsole depend on that package, and those are both in turn dependencies of the kubuntu-desktop metapackage, so perhaps that metapackage got removed during your upgrade? | 00:42 |
| unascribed | no idea, but installing kde-baseapps-bin did fix it | 00:42 |
| unascribed | I just installed the package from Konsole, so no idea | 00:42 |
| unascribed | double no idea :P | 00:43 |
| keithzg | unascribed: You can check if it's installed (and what version and such) via the terminal with "apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop" | 00:43 |
| unascribed | oh, so there is a better way than just listing all installed packages via dpkg and grepping it | 00:44 |
| unascribed | it isn't installed. huh. | 00:44 |
| keithzg | hahaha yup (although I uhhh did that myself for many years before realizing) | 00:44 |
| keithzg | Yeah I bet that the root of the problem, then. Probably worth reinstalling it in case there are other surprise absences lurking! | 00:45 |
| unascribed | ohh, I think I know why it's missing | 00:45 |
| keithzg | Removed baloo? | 00:45 |
| unascribed | I installed MariaDB a while ago since I was testing applications, and Akonadi *requires* MySQL | 00:45 |
| unascribed | so I had to nuke Akonadi | 00:45 |
| keithzg | Ah | 00:45 |
| unascribed | though removing baloo sounds like a good idea too | 00:45 |
| unascribed | ...that would require removing dolphin and plasma | 00:46 |
| unascribed | how about no :P | 00:46 |
| keithzg | Haha | 00:46 |
| keithzg | Well it was still possible with 14.04, which is what I'm writing from right now. It's easy enough to disable if you dislike it, though, and on *most* of my systems it isn't a problem, just this one (which happens to have millions of files in a few folders...) | 00:47 |
| unascribed | yeah, pretty sure I have it disabled | 00:47 |
| keithzg | Hmm interesting that Akonadi depends on mysql. | 00:47 |
| unascribed | I'm running on a (degraded D:) RAID5 array, so my disk bandwidth is in short supply | 00:48 |
| unascribed | yeah, I found it weird too | 00:48 |
| unascribed | especially since it has an alternate SQLite backend | 00:48 |
| keithzg | And postgresql too | 00:48 |
| keithzg | Yeah you'd think it would just depend on something that could in turn be *provided* by MariaDB. | 00:49 |
| unascribed | yeah | 00:49 |
| unascribed | I assumed it depended on a virtual akonadi-backend package | 00:49 |
| unascribed | which in turn was supplied by mysql and sqlite | 00:49 |
| unascribed | apparently not | 00:49 |
| unascribed | maybe they fixed that in the Wily packaging, I haven't checked | 00:50 |
| keithzg | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746651 | 00:50 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 746651 in akonadi-backend-mysql "akonadi-backend-mysql: please make it possible to use with MariaDB packages" [Important,Fixed] | 00:50 |
| unascribed | oh, cool | 00:50 |
| keithzg | And yeah indeed, looking at the package on Wily it seems like one option for the dependency is virtual-mysql-server-core, so MariaDB should be fine now | 00:51 |
| unascribed | cool | 00:51 |
| unascribed | I don't use Akonadi, but nice to know they fixed it | 00:51 |
| keithzg | Yeah, definitely. | 00:51 |
| keithzg | Always nice when things get better over time rather than worse :) | 00:51 |
| * keithzg avoids making a quip about Gnome, kindof fails ;) | 00:52 | |
| bprompt | unascribed: akonadi is used by PIM apps, like kontact or kmail or knode or korganizer | 00:53 |
| unascribed | yeah, I found that out when trying to decide if it was safe to remove :P | 00:53 |
| bprompt | heheh | 00:53 |
| keithzg | bprompt: Yeah, that's what I use it for (wait, is knode still around?). KMail remains my favourite desktop email client. | 00:53 |
| bprompt | keithzg: IIRC knode hit the can in 15.04, or kde 5.x | 00:55 |
| keithzg | bprompt: Yeah, I remembered it got dropped fairly recently. | 00:57 |
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| gabe_ | hello | 01:43 |
| gabe_ | i want to ask | 01:43 |
| gabe_ | i am using Kubuntu 15.10 | 01:44 |
| gabe_ | when i tried to connect on wifi Kubuntu said "IP configuration was unavailable" | 01:44 |
| gabe_ | but when i use other OS, i could connect to same SSID | 01:45 |
| gabe_ | how can i solve this ? | 01:45 |
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| Guest29310 | Hola | 01:55 |
| manuel | Hola | 02:17 |
| Guest29310 | Hey | 02:18 |
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| raul | Puto | 02:18 |
| manuel | :D | 02:18 |
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| BinaryC011010110 | Hello all I was wondering what the best software for photo editing and design are? Also, is there a way to check for Malware? I am new to Linux. | 02:37 |
| BinaryC011010110 | Um so yeah | 02:45 |
| BinaryC011010110 | Help? | 02:45 |
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| Jason____ | Hi I'm new to linux. can I run kubuntu as live persitence to try it before I put it on my hard drive? | 05:30 |
| mozg | yes,you can | 05:35 |
| ChronoToss | Hey, noob here; I got a question... I'm experancing a bit of a problem, with my NIC. Can someone help me? Or atleast point me in the direction of some reading source that can assist? | 05:48 |
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| parveen | hello | 07:14 |
| parveen | i can't install apps from muon software center. every time i click on the install button it shows installing but nothing is installing at all. can anyone help me on this | 07:16 |
| parveen | i am using kubuntu 15.10 | 07:16 |
| valorie | parveen: did you enter your user password? | 07:17 |
| valorie | nothing can install until you do that | 07:17 |
| valorie | i'm on 15.10 as well | 07:17 |
| parveen | yes | 07:22 |
| hateball | parveen: can you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" in a terminal? Reboot if prompted, then try Muon again | 07:25 |
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| denza242 | lordievader: so I think Kubuntu-CI is breaking my upgrade to wily | 10:05 |
| lordievader | denza242: So ppa-purge? | 10:05 |
| denza242 | :x | 10:05 |
| denza242 | but that would purge my entire desktop + some qt stuff | 10:05 |
| lordievader | No, it downgrades. It only removes if it ain't available in the 'normal' repos. | 10:06 |
| denza242 | ah | 10:06 |
| denza242 | hmm, so I should do that then, then upgrade, and then re-enable -ci? | 10:07 |
| lordievader | Or that and not re-enable ci. | 10:08 |
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| denza242 | :P | 10:09 |
| denza242 | lordievader: it won't blow up Konversation while it downgrades, right? | 10:10 |
| lordievader | No idea. | 10:12 |
| excalibr | fresh install is always fun | 10:12 |
| lordievader | I have no experience with ppa purging Kubuntu-CI. | 10:12 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:12 |
| Chris______ | hi. can anyone here help me with a fresh kubuntu install that never wakes from sleep? everything else seems fine. thanks | 13:01 |
| Chris______ | I can maybe make it more interesting by telling you I need to unplug it and remove the battery to get it to boot again? | 13:16 |
| hateball | Chris______: It is usually quite idle here, so dont feel ignored | 13:17 |
| hateball | And I do not know much about using suspend/hibernate | 13:18 |
| Chris______ | Thanks. Is there usually a chance of someone chiming in, or I should go look elsewhere? | 13:18 |
| Kwaadpepper | I think, for your problem to be solved, you would need to get specific info for logs likely | 13:20 |
| prof7bit | What is the correct place to report bugs against the german localisation of the upcoming Kubuntu 16.04? | 13:20 |
| Chris______ | I've been trying todo that, problem is I can't identify the log... /var/logs/pm-suspend.log is missing for me. Any other useful logs? | 13:21 |
| Kwaadpepper | journalctl | 13:21 |
| Kwaadpepper | i guess | 13:21 |
| hateball | prof7bit: check with #ubuntu+1 | 13:21 |
| Chris______ | if it's supposed to be in /var/log, then no, don't have it | 13:23 |
| BluesKaj | Chris______, did you get ris of the UEFI boot and gpt partiton table ? | 13:23 |
| Kwaadpepper | Chris______: journalctl is a program | 13:23 |
| BluesKaj | ris=rid | 13:23 |
| Chris______ | BlueKaj, I don't know what gpt is. I installed manually, had to create the EFI partition then copied an .efi file from the live cd to a boot file. then i could boot. | 13:24 |
| BluesKaj | Chris______, are you sure the OS i in sleep mode? | 13:25 |
| Chris______ | I can click sleep, it seems to go there (flashing led on power button), but never wakes up. fan spins up, screen is black | 13:26 |
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| Chris______ | Ctrl+Alt+F1/F6 does nothing | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | f7 | 13:27 |
| Chris______ | ok | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | for a desktop | 13:27 |
| Chris______ | it's a lenovo ideapad s205 laptop | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | F1 to F6 are VT/TTYs | 13:28 |
| fier | mozg: you should create a csetting model | 13:28 |
| Kwaadpepper | http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lenovo_ideapad_s205 | 13:29 |
| Kwaadpepper | could use google translate | 13:29 |
| Chris______ | either way, they don't do anything. doesn't look like the hdd does anything. strange thing is, if i forceit to power off, I need to take out the battery to get it to start up again | 13:29 |
| Chris______ | tried changing the video drivers (selecting between the three options I have in "Driver Manger") | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | I have the same problem with my lenovo G500, but I don't put the laptop to sleep , it just won't show grub. I have to either remove the baterry for few mins or use usb stick to boot grub. My HDD is no longer using the Windows GPT partitioning , it's DOS since I wiped the disk of all UEFI boot etc and use legacy mode...which i do not recommend. | 13:32 |
| Chris______ | never seen grub myself. ever. shift doesn't work | 13:34 |
| Chris______ | dont' need any other os, i don't plan to dual boot | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | you probly have no timeout in grub | 13:35 |
| Chris______ | how would i force that? | 13:36 |
| lordievader | Chris______: Just hold shift after the bios screen. Grub checks if shift is pressed. | 13:36 |
| BluesKaj | do you have autologin ? | 13:37 |
| Chris______ | shift does nothing. no autologin | 13:37 |
| BluesKaj | left shift | 13:38 |
| lordievader | What version of Kubuntu do you run? | 13:38 |
| Chris______ | really? let me try | 13:38 |
| Chris______ | latest kubuntu, just got it | 13:38 |
| Chris______ | no, no shift works | 13:39 |
| lordievader | Chris______: Right, so systemd is responsible for standby (unless Kubuntu does that differently). What happens when you invoke sleep through 'sudo systemctl' can it awake from that? | 13:39 |
| Chris______ | hold on | 13:40 |
| lordievader | Chris______: 'sudo systemctl standby' to be precise. | 13:40 |
| Chris______ | a ton of output happens. let me try again with standby | 13:41 |
| Chris______ | unknown operation standby. am i missing a dash or somehting? | 13:41 |
| lordievader | Hmm, no I guess Kubuntu doesn't use that (yet). Run 'sudo pm-suspend' and see if it can awake from that. | 13:43 |
| Chris______ | ha! yes, it can | 13:44 |
| Chris______ | i also have a pm-suspend.log for the first time | 13:45 |
| lordievader | Interesting... | 13:45 |
| Chris______ | and all the stuff in there seems to include "success", i see no errors | 13:45 |
| Chris______ | I usually try to sleep it by App-Launcher -> Leave -> Sleep (suspend to RAM) | 13:46 |
| lordievader | Chris______: What happens when you run 'qdbus org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement /org/kde/Solid/PowerManagement/Actions/SuspendSession org.kde.Solid.PowerManagement.Actions.SuspendSession.suspendToRam'? | 13:47 |
| Chris______ | Wow, it started working | 13:47 |
| Chris______ | could that have been some sort of permissions error about the log file? | 13:47 |
| Chris______ | should I still try the command above? | 13:48 |
| lordievader | Chris______: Yes. | 13:48 |
| Chris______ | ok, let me figure that out, i'm on a different computer, copy/paste won't work :) | 13:50 |
| Chris______ | ok, it sleeps and wake up normally from the qdbus thing | 13:51 |
| lordievader | That is strange... | 13:52 |
| Chris______ | what's strange? it seems to work now? i wanna try a reboot to see if this still works after | 13:52 |
| lordievader | Hitting the sleep button in the menu does pretty much the same thing.. | 13:52 |
| Chris______ | i understand. the menu button works too now. gimme a minute to reboot | 13:53 |
| lordievader | Wierd stuff! | 13:53 |
| Chris______ | ok, still weird. it only when the laptop is not plugged in to power | 13:56 |
| Chris______ | if it's plugged in it doesn't work. i just never thought to check that way | 13:57 |
| Chris______ | i've rebooted and am testing it again on battery power just to make sure | 13:58 |
| Chris______ | yeah, it works fine, can sleep and wake up when on battery power, but not if plugged in | 13:59 |
| lordievader | Does the 'sudo pm-suspend' still work on battery? | 14:00 |
| Chris______ | yes, when on battery everyting is fine | 14:00 |
| Chris______ | so, pm-suspend, qdbus and menu button all work on battery. | 14:01 |
| Chris______ | just tested pm-suspend while on power. it's stuck... | 14:02 |
| Chris______ | in power management i have identical settings for battery and AC power | 14:03 |
| lordievader | Oh, I interpreted that wrong. I thought it didn't work on battery. Hmm. How odd that standby doesn't work when powered. | 14:11 |
| Chris______ | i have no usb stuff atached to it, by the way | 14:16 |
| Doyle | Replaced the AMD gpu with an NVIDIA and the world is immediately a better place. I can lock the system without it freezing for 5 minutes now. ^_^ | 15:05 |
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| ntkubuntu | hi there, I've just installed kubuntu. Now I'm facing the problem that if I remove an usb stick then the complete system seems to freeze | 17:22 |
| ntkubuntu | can anybody help me with that? | 17:23 |
| ntkubuntu | If I apply the usb stick everything works fine. I can read any data stored on that stick. But if I release/remove the usb stick ... everything seems to crash | 17:26 |
| denza242 | well I seem to be in a pickle | 18:36 |
| denza242 | my upgrade to wily was interrupted and the only thing that changed was that my sources were bumped to wily | 18:37 |
| BluesKaj | denza242, you set the sources.list to any OS repos with sed, "example" sudo sed -i 's/saucy/trusty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list | 18:40 |
| BluesKaj | then apt update it and try again | 18:40 |
| denza242 | so I downgrade it first, then update it? | 18:41 |
| BluesKaj | that would probly be best, yes | 18:41 |
| BluesKaj | you can't skip OS releases, thatwill surely break your install | 18:42 |
| BluesKaj | like vivid to xenial for example | 18:43 |
| denza242 | nah, just vivid -> wily | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj | ok good | 18:43 |
| denza242 | BluesKaj: if some packages have already been updated, would it be best to manually "upgrade" it to Wily | 18:44 |
| BluesKaj | denza242, yes, sudo do-release-upgrade | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | if you get a message saying , already upgraded , then run, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | that should finish upgrading any missing packages | 18:48 |
| ted586947 | using 15.10 sound output has died recently and fixes are not working - how can i reset the sound settings to their default values again? | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, which audio chip? | 19:47 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: not sure -its a dell latitude e6410 laptop | 19:48 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, type alsamixer in the terminal , the audio chip will show in th ewupper left. Also if scroll across to audiomute, make sure it's disabled by using down arrow key | 19:50 |
| denza242 | um is this normal | 19:50 |
| denza242 | Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version | 19:50 |
| denza242 | Installing for i386-pc platform. | 19:51 |
| BluesKaj | denza242, yes | 19:51 |
| denza242 | bah, forgot to remove newlines | 19:51 |
| denza242 | BluesKaj: even if I have a 64 bit CPU? | 19:51 |
| BluesKaj | denza242, you can opt out if you want and keep your perwsent config | 19:52 |
| BluesKaj | present/current | 19:52 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: HDA Intel MID - IDT 92HD81B1C5 - audiomute is not enabled | 19:52 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, ok in the terminal do: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, after certain upgrades to alsa or pulseaudio the intel audio driver fails to load | 19:55 |
| denza242 | BluesKaj: er, I already accepted... | 19:56 |
| denza242 | ...it'll work though still, right? | 19:56 |
| BluesKaj | you'll need to reboot | 19:56 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: I did that sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel - hit return - no output in the shell | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj | there is no output from the modprobe command if the driver loads properly | 19:57 |
| BluesKaj | good no errors, ted586947 | 19:58 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: OK if I start VLC and play a video there is no sound but - now if I got to Audio Device and select one for my chip as above it starts working but | 19:59 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, vlc has it's own settings oprions in audio and tools | 20:00 |
| ted586947 | there is another device default HDA NVIDIA HDMI 0 | 20:01 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: yes I've tried resetting all VLC prefs to default but there was no impact | 20:01 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, well, what kind of sound system are you connecting to the pc? | 20:03 |
| ted586947 | nothing - btw if i open System settingsdouble click on multimedia it crashes - tried it several times - not good | 20:05 |
| ted586947 | but its been a fairly stable system usually and audio worked out of the box so i expect some sort of reset would work | 20:06 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, make sure your packages are up to date, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade | 20:07 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: done that just now - all up to date | 20:07 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 20:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | Kubuntu Podcast link: http://youtu.be/eZH6b6hJi2o It's live right now | 20:08 |
| ted586947 | i have something called Cadence installed that I think manages JACK could that be connected - clutching at straws here | 20:09 |
| BluesKaj | use the analog audio choces in pulseaudio/pavucontrol if you pavu installed | 20:10 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: installing now - sudo apt-get install pavucontrol | 20:12 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: $ pavucontrol produces "Fatal Error unable to connect to PulseAudio OK" | 20:13 |
| BluesKaj | perhaps you don't have pulseaudio installed | 20:13 |
| BluesKaj | you don't really need it with intel audio unless you want simultaneous audio sources playing | 20:14 |
| keithzg | Hmm, any particular reason why in Wily kstart is installed by kde-runtime while kstart5 is installed by kde-cli-tools? What's the difference? | 20:16 |
| BluesKaj | but if you have jack installed it could be redirecting the signal to the wrong output | 20:17 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947,^ | 20:17 |
| keithzg | Oh, huh, kde-runtime is still Qt/KDE 4 based even on Wily? I guess a lot of stuff isn't ported yet, so fair enough. | 20:18 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: ahh - i think that could be it - would you suggest uninstalling JACK ? Willing to try anything really | 20:18 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, jack is mostly used for pro audio or recording | 20:19 |
| BluesKaj | from mixers etc | 20:20 |
| ted586947 | yeah i installed a package of audio progs - i think it came with hydrogen and cadence - but i havent use them much | 20:22 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, i use both analog and digital/spdif outputs on my intel chip soundcard ..no pulseaudio or jack | 20:22 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: ok im going to try uninstalling JACK and whatever goes with it via synaptic - i can always reinstall later | 20:24 |
| BluesKaj | both spdif digital and analog go to my audio receiver, but the analog could run a powered speaker system if needed | 20:25 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, yes good idea | 20:25 |
| BluesKaj | !hydrogen | 20:28 |
| BluesKaj | !info hydrogen | 20:28 |
| ubottu | hydrogen (source: hydrogen): advanced drum machine/step sequencer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6.1-1build1 (wily), package size 4799 kB, installed size 18368 kB | 20:28 |
| BluesKaj | !info cadence | 20:28 |
| ubottu | Package cadence does not exist in wily | 20:28 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: kxstudio meta packages going with removal of JACK - i must have got them in a PPA | 20:29 |
| ted586947 | right thats all done - quite a lot gone - should it need a reboot | 20:30 |
| BluesKaj | do you have pulseaudio installed ? | 20:31 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947,^ | 20:32 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: how would I know? | 20:32 |
| BluesKaj | just type it in the terminal or search in the package manager | 20:33 |
| ted586947 | yes pulseaudio is installed according to synaptic | 20:33 |
| BluesKaj | it's your choice , it can help in some cases, don't let my prejudices affect your choices :-) | 20:35 |
| BluesKaj | but if you decide to uninstall it use purge | 20:36 |
| ted586947 | bit bizzare - reset vlc prefs to default - launched it on a video - audio played - the VLC preferences popped up i clicked on and they disappearted - the audio stopped | 20:36 |
| ted586947 | im happy to purge pulseaudio | 20:36 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, check audio devices | 20:37 |
| BluesKaj | on vlc | 20:37 |
| BluesKaj | ok purge pulse then reboot | 20:37 |
| ted586947 | in vlc theres a list of about 30 audio devices - most of them duplicates | 20:38 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, just choose the first analog | 20:39 |
| BluesKaj | and in the tools/audio choose alsa output in the drop down | 20:40 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: that works - it always resets to the notworking one | 20:40 |
| ted586947 | purging pulseaudio now then rebooting - hope to see you on the other side, tx for the guidance so far | 20:42 |
| BluesKaj | once the tools/audio settings are saved then go back to audio devices and choose one analog , it could be your choice in system settings multimedia needs to be changed to alsa | 20:43 |
| BluesKaj | once the tools/audio settings are saved then go back to audio devices and choose one analog , it could be your choice in system settings multimedia needs to be changed to alsa | 20:47 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947,^ | 20:47 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, just ignore the pulse option...it still shows up due to the bluetooth libs I think | 20:53 |
| ted586947 | rebooted with progress - now - youtube audio working fine - dragon player audio working fine - System Settings Audio the tests play fine - vlc still no audio until I select the correct audio device | 20:53 |
| BluesKaj | yeah that's a problem with vlc, my setup requires the same reset | 20:54 |
| BluesKaj | if i want to listen thru my wireless headphones I use the analog setting in vlc audio devices | 20:55 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: its so odd - its still defaults to the not working NVIDIA device despite resetting | 20:56 |
| ted586947 | just vlc - the rest seems to be working fine - odd cos VLC has been such a reliable prog for me for years | 20:57 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, are you saving the setting in vlc/tools/audio? | 20:57 |
| BluesKaj | make sure alsa is the default at the top of the list in systemsettings>multimedia>devicepreference>music | 20:59 |
| ted586947 | i jusdt did that - restarted vlc - launched a file in vlc got 1 second of audio then silence - like my just set vlc prefs got overridden somehow just after launch | 21:00 |
| ted586947 | i only have one now in systemsettings>multimedia>devicepreference>music just "Default" - but the test on it plays audio fine | 21:01 |
| ted586947 | purging vlc then reinstalling just to check if that makes a difference | 21:03 |
| finetundra | ted586947: have you already tried deleting your config data for, it's vlc right? | 21:04 |
| ted586947 | yep tried that a few times unfortunately | 21:05 |
| finetundra | Ok | 21:05 |
| ted586947 | somewhere VLCs prefs are getting overridden - so even if i save the correct ones a second after launch they are reset back to the broken option - well getting all my audio bar vlc working is good progress :) | 21:07 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, http://imgur.com/MqyYXYm and http://imgur.com/4jtjEdh | 21:09 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: first pic (VLC) is the same as mine - second pic SystemSettings all I got is "Default" - no "alsa" or "pulseaudio" options | 21:13 |
| BluesKaj | ted586947, just ignore the pulse audio when it appears, alsa should show up after a reboot | 21:15 |
| ted586947 | i could purge reinstall alsa ? | 21:16 |
| BluesKaj | no need | 21:16 |
| BluesKaj | make sure you have alsa and alsa-utils installed | 21:17 |
| BluesKaj | alsa-base | 21:17 |
| BluesKaj | too | 21:17 |
| ted586947 | yes all three are there | 21:18 |
| BluesKaj | oops no more alsa base, I forgot | 21:18 |
| BluesKaj | ok I | 21:18 |
| BluesKaj | I'm on a dev OS so things have changed here | 21:19 |
| ted586947 | thanks for your help mate | 21:19 |
| ted586947 | BluesKaj: ^^^ | 21:19 |
| BluesKaj | it's been a long day, think i'm done | 21:20 |
| BluesKaj | np ted586947 , hope it works out | 21:20 |
| ted586947 | been quite a journey :) but all of it is now working so | 21:20 |
| ted586947 | its just a minor glitch in vlc left but | 21:21 |
| ted586947 | i needed to clear out a lot of the cruft that was in there anyway to narrow it down | 21:21 |
| ted586947 | and you helped a lot so cheers and have a good night ;) | 21:22 |
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| somebodyunimport | test | 21:24 |
| somebodyunimport | ok cool | 21:24 |
| Chris______ | hi again. back trying to get some help with my kubuntu problem: once my laptop goes to sleep, it never wakes up. and that only happens when it's plugged into ac power. reinstalled everything once more a couple of hours ago. same behavior on the live cd. once it freezes, i have to take out the battery, otherwise it's stuck and won't boot anything, can't even get into bios. i'm on the latest kubuntu on a lenovo ideapad s205 | 21:26 |
| Chris______ | i got some help earlier today from someone who helped me figure out it only happend on ac power. but i'm still stuck | 21:28 |
| Chris______ | anyone have any ideas? already tried different video drivers | 21:31 |
| Chris______ | ctrl+alt+f1/f7 does nothing when it's frozen, no hdd activity or anything | 21:31 |
| Chris______ | i'm not feeling ignored, i know it's pretty idle here | 21:47 |
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| regedit | what causes Kubuntu's Dolphin view to refresh when file actions are taken (like create/move file etc) ? | 22:55 |
| Benny_ | Hallo i've got a big problem. I startet sudo apt-get remove java* Now many system files are gone and i dont knoe how to repair. | 22:55 |
| regedit | i'm not seeing that happen in KDE on other distros, it seems to be an open bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244163 | 22:55 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 244163 in general "Dolphin doesn't refresh the folder list until I press F5" [Normal,Reopened] | 22:55 |
| regedit | how come it seems to work on Kubuntu? | 22:55 |
| Benny_ | Nobody with an idea? | 22:57 |
| regedit | sudo apt-get -f install ? | 22:57 |
| regedit | not sure how much that helps | 22:57 |
| Benny_ | I can not start kubuntu any more | 22:58 |
| Benny_ | i'm hier with live cd | 22:58 |
| regedit | did you really literally type "sudo apt-get remove java*" ? or did you type it a little different | 22:58 |
| regedit | ah well then recovery measures need to be taken, bit out of my area of knowledge | 22:59 |
| Benny_ | exactly sudo apt-get remove java* | 22:59 |
| Benny_ | i think it was a very bad idea :( | 23:00 |
| Benny_ | if i do a reinstallation, all my installed programes are away? | 23:01 |
| regedit | unless your various installation directories ( /usr /opt etc) were on a separate partition, yup | 23:04 |
| regedit | and even if they are - i barely know what i'm talking about | 23:05 |
| regedit | if there are specific startup messages/errors feel free to ask/research about them | 23:06 |
| regedit | it could be an easily remediable issue, could be not | 23:06 |
| regedit | the more info you dig up & share the better chances someone actually bothering to help :) | 23:06 |
| Benny_ | Dolphin, ocular had been deletet. but widows of both applications were still running. after a reboot. im am able to get access trough network. but there ist just a x for my mouse and nothing else | 23:08 |
| Benny_ | i need to get access to network during recovery mode. nut teher it failed | 23:09 |
| Benny__ | i will rebbot my other pc now for detailed info | 23:11 |
| Benny__ | Would it be helpfull if i save all data from / into /home which is on a seperate partition | 23:13 |
| Benny__ | error: unable to launch "/usr/bin/startkde" X session --- "/usr/bin/startkde" not found; falling back to default session | 23:19 |
| Benny__ | does anybody know how to get a terminal? | 23:21 |
| regedit | ctrl+alt+F1? | 23:22 |
| Benny__ | yes...thank you very much | 23:22 |
| regedit | does apt-get have a history/log of installs/uninstalls? maybe you can see the list of packages that may have gotten uninstalled and simply apt-get install them | 23:23 |
| regedit | in openSUSE YaST2 has a nice history log of every update/install/uninstall action that happens, whether automatically or from command line | 23:23 |
| Benny__ | Thats a very good idea. | 23:24 |
| regedit | (or is it zypper) | 23:24 |
| regedit | not sure if such concepts exist in the *buntus with apt-get tho | 23:24 |
| Benny__ | im trying to do apt-get update but ist doesnt work | 23:25 |
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| regedit | Benny__: "it doesnt work" is never helpful, always gather and report much more information than that | 23:28 |
| regedit | if your system sounds horribly broken it might indeed be time to copy away your important data and reformat | 23:29 |
| Benny__ | :( | 23:29 |
| valorie | in a console, please try `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop` | 23:30 |
| regedit | again - unless you can roll up your sleeves & get down 'n dirty doing a lot of googling, trying things, and researching error message output | 23:31 |
| valorie | Benny__: ^^^ | 23:31 |
| valorie | that should restore you to a working system | 23:31 |
| valorie | and then you can fix further from there | 23:31 |
| Benny__ | My problem: there are nor error messages | 23:31 |
| regedit | please describe what *does* happen then | 23:32 |
| Benny__ | now i've got accsess to terminal and network | 23:33 |
| Benny__ | only gui ist broken | 23:33 |
| regedit | the less you keep us guessing the less patience we lose :) | 23:33 |
| Benny__ | it says 10 packages can bee updated | 23:33 |
| valorie | then paste or type exactly what I put between the tick marks, Benny__ | 23:33 |
| valorie | of course don't put in the ticks ` | 23:34 |
| Benny__ | ok | 23:34 |
| valorie | regedit: I've been where Benny__ is, and it's sort of scary | 23:34 |
| regedit | i remember that too, that's when i started keeping data safely separate from OS installations, and don't get very attached to OS installations anymore | 23:35 |
| regedit | i reformat regularly now | 23:35 |
| Benny__ | My Data ist safe. but i have to install everything again and that takes lots of time | 23:36 |
| Benny__ | So, what should i type in valorie? | 23:36 |
| Benny__ | i think i'll try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 23:40 |
| valorie | `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop` | 23:40 |
| valorie | that entire thing, you can copy/paste or just copy if you are on a different computer | 23:40 |
| bprompt | Benny__: when you removed java, how many files it listed it was going to remove? like 20 or 75? | 23:41 |
| bprompt | also.. why did you remove java? :/ | 23:41 |
| Benny__ | very much | 23:41 |
| Benny__ | i wantet to install version 8 | 23:42 |
| Benny__ | and remove 7 | 23:42 |
| bprompt | Benny__: you mean, it was like 100 files to remove? | 23:42 |
| Benny__ | ja | 23:42 |
| Benny__ | yes | 23:42 |
| bprompt | hmmm I see.... hmmm | 23:42 |
| bprompt | likely apt-get, removed a bunch of dependencies that weren't java specific, but system, usually | 23:43 |
| Benny__ | yes i thik so too | 23:43 |
| bprompt | yes, I've seen it doing that, I think is some flaw in apt-get when removing packages, it hoses unspecific ones | 23:44 |
| bprompt | Benny__: well, that means.. you hosed kubuntu pretty much :/ | 23:44 |
| Benny__ | yes i did | 23:45 |
| bprompt | Benny__: hmmm you could just do a reinstall.... as far as installing everything... what does that mean? how many packages? do you even keep a list of what packages you ever installed? | 23:45 |
| Benny__ | but im looking hopefully on valories tips | 23:45 |
| Benny__ | no i dont have such a list. but there is a log file somewhere | 23:46 |
| bprompt | well, I'd think a dist-upgrade, will simply do, over a network, what you can do with the usb installation, only difference is, that the usb will do it 25times faster | 23:46 |
| Benny__ | it's back again. Thank you very much | 23:47 |
| bprompt | Benny__: what you can salvage is your $HOME directory, that one keeps all your configurations, which are a hassle to redo, font settings, session settings, workspace, themes, caches, aliases and such, so... you'd want to back that up before a reinstall | 23:48 |
| Benny__ | No reinstall nessecary. ist works fone again | 23:48 |
| bprompt | alrite, all's well that ends well :) | 23:49 |
| bprompt | Benny__: now as far as java, just install on top of older version, it'll get updated in place | 23:50 |
| bprompt | Benny__: btw, you'd want to make an image of the system, and keep it around, so you can put it back when something happens | 23:51 |
| bprompt | with something like Clonezilla | 23:51 |
| Benny__ | i'll do this soon. now i have to work. :( | 23:52 |
| bprompt | k | 23:52 |
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