[00:00] <Kingsqueak> <- getting old, I guess startx isn't even a thing anymore? I just use a DM login
[00:00] <xyz__> k1l: sudo apt-get install lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter
[00:00] <oooo> display managers are memes
[00:00] <oooo> Did you turn it off and back on?
[00:01] <xyz__> do i need to: cd /etc/apt
[00:01] <xyz__> sudo nano apt.conf
[00:01] <xyz__> APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::Install-Suggests "0";
[00:01] <k1l> xyz__: what? what are youdoing there?
[00:02] <bekks> and why?
[00:02] <oooo> xyz__: I would recommend installing gentoo, it's really user friendly and doesn't have these problems!
[00:02] <k1l> oooo: stop that trolling in here
[00:03] <oooo> Well it doesn't have these problems that much is true
[00:03] <bekks> which isnt.
[00:03] <itson_> mcphail: Bashing-om: This boot was different from the other but not successful. And it's in black'n white. I'll have to upload a video of it since it's hard to discribe.
[00:04] <xyz__> brb...rebooting
[00:06] <Kingsqueak> xyz__: work?
[00:06] <xyz___> same error...still cant log in to xfce...:(
[00:06] <bekks> xyz__: Did you install xubuntu-desktop ?
[00:06] <k1l> xyz___: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[00:06] <ServantSaber> What exactly is the error
[00:06] <Kingsqueak> I seem to recall I had an issue with xfce4 a while back, but xubuntu-desktop worked
[00:06] <xyz___> bekks: yeah installed xffce-desktop
[00:07] <k1l> xyz___: do you use a DM? how did you start the other desktops before?
[00:07] <xyz___> its the mini.iso 14.04
[00:07] <Kingsqueak> just curious, have you done a full apt-get update and upgrade since base install yet?
[00:07] <k1l> xyz___: what exact error do you get? is the .Xauthority in your users home owned by that user? do other accounts like guest account work?
[00:07] <xyz___> this is fresh install...
[00:07] <Kingsqueak> do a full   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:08] <Kingsqueak> will probably have a million updates
[00:08] <k1l> Kingsqueak: needs apt-get dist-upgrade to install all new packages
[00:08] <Kingsqueak> true
[00:08] <xyz___> only one user
[00:08] <xyz___> error msg :"Unable to load a failsafe session Unable to determine failsafe session name. Possible causes xconfd isn't running (D-Bus setup problem); environment variable $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS is set incorrectly (must include "/etc") or xfce4-session is installed incorrectly."
[00:11] <xyz___> dunno what else to do now...:(
 xyz___: do you use a DM? how did you start the other desktops before?
 xyz___: what exact error do you get? is the .Xauthority in your users home owned by that user? do other accounts like guest account work?
[00:12] <k1l> still a lot of open questions
[00:12] <Kingsqueak> xyz___: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop && sudo shutdown -r now
[00:20] <Desu> sudo -i, because typing sudo 50 times is a waste of time
[00:20] <Desu> C-d when done
[00:21] <Ben64> Desu: because typing "sudo" is so hard? no
[00:22] <c|oneman> it is hard. I agree with Desu
[00:22] <genii> use sudo -i   then all the admin things. then type exit when done
[00:22] <k1l> safty is hard. but better to be safe then sorry.
[00:23] <c|oneman> I think you can create an alias though right?
[00:23] <k1l> this is a beginners channel, keep that in mind.
[00:24] <c|oneman> should I use sudo su or sudo -i
[00:24] <Ben64> should never use sudo su
[00:24] <genii> c|oneman: sudo -i
[00:25] <axelm7> hi guys, I have an ubuntu system with a 4 hard drive RAID 10 array. Two of the four drives are reporting issues with specific sectors. I'd like to be able to map the LBA address to a file on the md0 softraid device. Any ideas how I can do that?
[00:29] <itson_> mcphail: Bashing-om: Do you mind checking the video out that I recorded from the boot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR28V--tX9c&feature=youtu.be
[00:31] <Bashing-om> itson_: I can try ,,, my old graphic's card does not do vidoes .
[00:33] <itson_> Bashing-om: let me know if you can watch it.
[00:35] <Bashing-om> itson_: Yeah .. I did .. no idea what the errors are .. As you can boot to the boot menu . what results " check disk for defects " ?
[00:38] <itson_> Bashing-om: Thanks for trying. I'll have to give up for tonight tho. It's 01.37 here. GN and thanks.
[00:38] <bprompt> itson_:     I'd say.. check with smartmontools for the hdd S.M.A.R.T. status
[00:38] <bprompt> !smartmontools | itson_
[00:38] <Bashing-om> itson_: np .. I did nada .
[00:39] <itson_> bpromt: I'll ad that to my list of stuff to do tomorrow. Thanks.
[00:42] <T3CHY> Hello!
[01:24] <Jakfro> hi guys
[01:24] <Jakfro> anyone around here has knowledge on boot -flag?
[01:24] <k1l> linux doesnt need the boot flag
[01:25] <Jakfro> when i run boot-repair they tell me GPT is detected
[01:25] <Jakfro> in other words i cant boot up my grub. Whenever i boot they push me into grub rescue, using a live boot usb i have ran boot-repair
[01:26] <Jakfro> and yeah they tell me it is GPT is dtected. i have ogg-ed the secure boot and as well as UEFI boots. On Legacy now. Been stuck with this problem for like 7 hours now
[01:32] <Jakfro> can anyone help on this?
[01:42] <Gallomimia> Ummmm. I have grub on a system with drives formatted GPT. I thik it works. i do have trouble getting it fixed tho
[02:00] <cristian_> Good nigth
[02:11] <jesuslovesyouthi> The -r and -b feature aren't working correctly with macchanger on ubuntu 14.04 lts. Is there a temporary workaround/ way to make it work for now?
[02:12] <nicomachus> what do you mean "aren't working correctly"?
[02:16] <jesuslovesyouthi> nicomachus: After 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 down' and I run either 'sudo macchanger -r wlan0' or 'sudo macchanger -br wlan0' the output indicates that the mac is identical to the original, factory, burned in mac.
[02:17] <jesuslovesyouthi> in other words, the mac was not changed at all
[02:17] <nicomachus> well I don't see a -b option on the manpage
[02:17] <jesuslovesyouthi> there is
[02:17] <jesuslovesyouthi> for "burned in" option
[02:18] <jesuslovesyouthi>  -b, --bia
[02:18] <jesuslovesyouthi>               When setting fully random MAC pretend to be a burned-in-address. If not used, the MAC will have the locally-administered bit set.
[02:19] <jesuslovesyouthi> nicomachus: ^  (sorry, I forget to flag with username sometimes)
[02:23] <nicomachus> sorry man, I have no idea. never used macchanger before.
[02:24] <jesuslovesyouthi> nicomachus: oh, I see : https://github.com/alobbs/macchanger/issues/11   <-- which I'm surprised there anything at all out there about it. I'll see what that says bc it is my identical problem
[02:41] <chinaski> #grass
[02:50] <truexfan81> any idea why apt-get dist-upgrade grabbed 2 kernels on 14.04.3?
[02:51] <truexfan81> 3.19.0.37.24 and generic-lts-vivid
[02:53] <chinaski> \msg antonioflavio
[02:54] <BinaryC011010110> Hello can someone help with a query?
[02:54] <BinaryC011010110> I am new to Linux
[02:55] <Bashing-om> BinaryC011010110: One can but ask, and see .
[02:56] <BinaryC011010110> ok I am trying to set up a photo editing/art/graphical design layout
[02:57] <BinaryC011010110> What are the best applications for doing such things?
[02:58] <BinaryC011010110> Aka I know nothing.
[02:58] <cfhowlett> binary01, layout for a website?
[02:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> define layout
[02:59] <BinaryC011010110> I have read a lot but, yeah
[02:59] <BinaryC011010110> well I want to start a website.
[03:00] <SchrodingersScat> !info nginx | BinaryC011010110
[03:00] <cfhowlett> BinaryC011010110, wordpress.com has several templates for highlighting
[03:01] <BinaryC011010110> Oh what about photo editing/graphic designing apps? What are the best?
[03:03] <BinaryC011010110> I have photoshop on my windows partition...but I hate Windows
[03:03] <cfhowlett> BinaryC011010110,  gimp for photo editing.  inkscape/krita for graphics.  blender for 3d graphics.  also:   www.ubuntustudio.org          #ubuntustudio
[03:03] <cfhowlett> darktable for photos
[03:03] <BinaryC011010110> Thank you very much!
[03:03] <cfhowlett> happy2help! BinaryC011010110
[03:05] <BinaryC011010110> Um is there a way to contact/make "friends" on Linux?
[03:05] <Hitechcg> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:05] <cfhowlett> BinaryC011010110, ^^ this
[03:06] <Gallomimia> hi can someone tell me the command to unlock a LUKS volume in CLI?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> BinaryC011010110, while we're at it: www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads       get #0, read, get #1, read ... by the time you finish, you will know more buntu than most.
[03:08] <Gallomimia> ^^^ best advice i've gotten in 2y of coming here
[03:08] <BinaryC011010110> Thank you cfhowlett! can I add you as a contact?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> BinaryC011010110, sure.
[03:09] <Gallomimia> BinaryC011010110: i didn't ask you before sending a private message. it seems lost in my client now...
[03:10] <BinaryC011010110> thanks
[03:10] <BinaryC011010110> huh?
[03:13] <BinaryC011010110> psm Gallomimia, how do you send private messages?
[03:13] <BinaryC011010110> Well not that way
[03:13] <Gallomimia> um i used /m yourname amessage
[03:14] <Gallomimia> maybe /msg is needed. ircfu is lacking
[03:14] <BinaryC011010110> Soka
[03:14] <Gallomimia> ./m BinaryC011010110 hi i like making friends on linux.
[03:15] <ryclik> ./msg should send a private message. /query will send a private message in it's own window
[03:16] <ryclik> afaik, the only difference is the own window part
[03:20] <unwizard> If I use an alternate window manager -- forsaking Unity, KDE, Cinnamon and the like -- what is the effective difference between Ubuntu and Mint?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> !mint | unwizard, mint is not supported here.
[03:21] <TrivialGravitas> cfhowlett, ubottu 'what is the difference' is as much an Ubuntu question as a Mint ont
[03:21] <ryclik> unwizard: Different package repositories perhaps?
[03:21] <k1l> unwizard: start at the original ubuntu repo and the update policy over to the support community.
[03:21] <ryclik> TrivialGravitas: I believe those are bots.
[03:22] <uiopeer> Wow Islamic terrorist strike san Bernardino ca. And terror supporter Obama calls it work place Who'd figure. They said Bengahzi terrorists strike was because of a YouTube video
[03:22] <Gejt> Gallomimia: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdX "name"        - to decrypt
[03:22] <cfhowlett> uiopeer, don't spam here.
[03:22] <TrivialGravitas> unwizard, as far as I know Mint is just Ubuntu with some things that aren't strictly legal to distribute with linux but are convenient to have preinstalled, media codecs flash
[03:22] <Gallomimia> thanks gejt
[03:22] <Gejt> Gallomimia: sudo mount /dev/mapper/"name" /mnt               - to mount
[03:23] <unwizard> k1l: er sorry I don't really understand your sentence, starting at "update policy over"
[03:23] <Gallomimia> oh. yeah two operations. it's simpler in GUI but... would like to learn both. thanks. it was hard to find
[03:23] <Hitechcg> Ooh, Linux Mint is illegal!
[03:24] <k1l> unwizard: starting at the handling from the repos and updates then ending at the support from the community.
[03:24] <Gejt> Gallomimia: for sure, definitely worth knowing
[03:24] <cfhowlett> mint is completely off-topic.  take this to #ubuntu-offtopic or to private messaging please.
[03:24] <Gallomimia> especially if running such things on what's supposed to be my primary PC
[03:25] <k1l> unwizard: for a "non biased" comparison better ask in ##linux butwe all know why that much users with mint issues come in to this channel for help.
[03:25] <waressearcher2> is that legal command: "mv directory /dev/null" ?
[03:26] <k1l> waressearcher2: that will delete that directory
[03:26] <Hitechcg> No. /dev/null is a block device, not a regular file
[03:26] <unwizard> I think asking about the differences is legit on-topic here. The use of bots is kind of off-putting.
[03:26] <waressearcher2> k1l: but it says: "mv: cannot overwrite non-directory `/dev/null' with directory `1111111111'"
[03:26] <ryclik> Gallomimia: I learned in my time working with other more "barebones" distributions. You may find it interesting to read ArchLinux's and Gentoo's wikis on the subject of dmcrypt/LUKS
[03:27] <waressearcher2> k1l: if I do: "mv 1111111111 /dev/null"
[03:27] <Gallomimia> ryclik i've been reading the arch wiki on GRUB actually. i've been finding it confusing.
[03:27] <cfhowlett> unwizard, read the channel topic please: UBUNTU support.  mint is not ubuntu and is not supported so please - take this someplace else.
[03:27] <k1l> waressearcher2: ah yes, it blocks moving stuff to it
[03:27] <ryclik> Gallomimia: Because GRUB is quite confusing :)
[03:27] <waressearcher2> k1l: so why is that page: http://www.tecmint.com/10-most-dangerous-commands-you-should-never-execute-on-linux says it should work ? when will it work ?
[03:28] <unwizard> cfhowlett: asking about the differences is not a "support" question, please be less serious.
[03:28] <Gallomimia> unwizard: if you want something off-putting, try helping 1700 people in one channel who all want to talk about not-ubuntu.
[03:29] <k1l> waressearcher2: the 1) on that site for / doesnt work on ubuntu neither.
[03:30] <ryclik> waressearcher2: Ubuntu has it's own protections against such commands
[03:32] <waressearcher2> k1l: what is the alternative for "rm -rf /" in ubuntu ?
[03:32] <k1l> man rm should list it
[03:32] <Gallomimia> yes. GRUB is very confusing. anyone want to try to teach me about it? i need to install some customized grub configs
[03:34] <ryclik> Typically when using my own setup for a bootloader (on other distros) I would go with something more simple to configure by hand such as syslinux or gummiboot
[03:34] <B4sh> anyone familiar with easy engine?
[03:35] <ryclik> But I believe for grub, you would start by playing with /etc/default/grub, maybe some files in /etc/grub.d/
[03:35] <aspire> hello, currently running ubuntu 14.04 lts looking to switch from unity to gnome 3
[03:35] <ryclik> And if you really wanted to get your hands dirty, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:35] <aspire> from what i've gathered, if you do it from the ppa it will mess stuff up
[03:36] <aspire> was just wondering how do i correctly use gnome 3 instead of unity without it breaking anything
[03:37] <cfhowlett> aspire, install gnome-ubuntu, do not format your /home
[03:37] <B4sh> 2015-12-02 17:19:17,391 (DEBUG) ee : Command Output: ,
[03:37] <B4sh> Command Error: /usr/bin/env: php: No such file or directory
[03:37] <aspire> cfhowlett, as in 'sudo apt-get install gnome-ubuntu' ?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> aspire: Consider : http://ubuntugnome.org/download/ .
[03:37] <aspire> Bashing-om, it's too late for that, i fear
[03:38] <ryclik> http://itsfoss.com/how-to-install-gnome-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[03:39] <ryclik> according to that, its "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop"
[03:39] <ryclik> Switching between gnome and unity will probably be done in a dropdown box or similar at the login screen
[03:39] <aspire> i need to install both of these?
[03:40] <aspire> gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop right?
[03:40] <ryclik> You probably want just ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[03:40] <ryclik> If you want the full-fledged Gnome desktop
[03:40] <aspire> what will gnome-shell do?
[03:41] <ryclik> I imagine gnome-shell comes as a dependency to ubuntu-gnome-desktop automatically
[03:41] <samy1028> Does anyone have a pointer on best practices when increasing allocated HD in an Ubuntu Server VM using LVM?
[03:41] <cfhowlett> samy1028, #ubuntu-server would know the best practices
[03:41] <lunatic-> good evening
[03:42] <aspire> i'll just install both then
[03:42] <lunatic-> i need help creating a boot usb stick on mac, to install on a MS-dos PC
[03:43] <ryclik> aspire: Again, gnome-shell comes with vubuntu-gnome-desktop
[03:43] <ryclik> so no need to install both, just do the ubuntu one
[03:43] <aspire> oh ok
[03:44] <ryclik> you would just install gnome-shell if you wanted less "stuff".. ubuntu-gnome-desktop probably comes with all the standard apps and things that make it work well
[03:45] <lunatic-> How do I create a bootable usb stick that has ubuntu studio on mac?
[03:48] <aspire> turns out i actually prefer unity over gnome
[03:49] <ryclik> Have you tried any others? KDE? XFCE? etc
[03:49] <aspire> i've tried pantheon before
[03:49] <ryclik> I've never heard of that one :P
[03:50] <cfhowlett> sounds ... greek?
[03:51] <aspire> i just discovered this site: http://www.ubuntuthemes.org/
[03:51] <ryclik> cfhowlett: looks like a OSX lookalike
[03:51] <aspire> are those kind of like desktop environments or do i have the wrong impression
[03:51] <cfhowlett> aspire, no those are only themes
[03:51] <aspire> how do i apply these
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !changethemes | aspire
[03:54] <aspire> oh ok thanks
[03:54] <ryclik> aspire: Most of the time, the theme is in a zip file that can be extracted. Then move the stuff to their respective places. ie: /usr/share/themes or /usr/share/icons
[03:56] <bluzeo> hey guys very irc client wont let me change font or size of fun any ideas??? i tried preference but i cant get it to work - really like this distro other wise
[03:56] <cfhowlett> bluzeo, what irc client???
[03:56] <aspire> ryclik, and where can i set it
[03:56] <aspire> i see a 'themes' dropdown box under appearance
[03:57] <aspire> but it only has 3. when i look in my /usr/share/themes folder, there's like 15
[03:57] <bluzeo> cfhowlett - i was using hexchat now im using Smuxi same problem - i new i shouldnt have install gnome....
[03:57] <aspire> do you guys use the default file manager for ubuntu?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> bluzeo, hexchat lets me change font size no problem ...
[03:59] <bluzeo> cfhowlett - i dont haven an ok button or change button on the buttom
[03:59] <ryclik> They are possibly themes for Gnome? Dunno. In Linux theming it's best to realize all the different parts. Understand the difference between GTK, qt, and desktop env. themes.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> bluzeo, 2 steps> hexchat > settings > preferences > change the number in the Font box, hit OK at the bottom
[04:00] <ryclik> In XFCE, for example, XFCE themes are changed in "Window Manager" and GTK is changed in "Appearance.
[04:00] <ryclik> So there may be a couple places
[04:01] <cfhowlett> art.gnome.org   ryclik
[04:01] <bluzeo> no button on the bottom man cfhowlett
[04:01] <ryclik> cfhowlett: hm?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> bluzeo, should be there.  I'm on xubuntu so possibly it's different - but it shouldn't be.
[04:03] <Gejt> aspire: no, I use thunar
[04:04] <ryclik> aspire: I think its nautilus?
[04:04] <nicomachus> yes, aspire.
[04:04] <cfhowlett> aspire, thunar is the default for xubuntu
[04:05] <ryclik> I believe aspire is using unity
[04:05] <bluzeo> lol it was too big - i dont no how to fix that in gnome - i may try ubuntu mate but i want something like linux lite
[04:06] <Gejt> lxappearance is an easy way to change gtk themes/icons etc
[04:06] <cfhowlett> bluzeo, hold right mouse button, roll your mouse wheel to change size
[04:13] <bluzeo> cfhowlett - on my laptop - really love this distro but two things wrong the irc and app center .... im getting an mate disc ready - i almost found my laptop distro
[04:14] <cfhowlett> bluzeo, it's ubuntu.  you can add / swap / change / customize until it's the way YOU want it!
[04:14] <aspire> so, i don't like nautilus because the pantheon file explorer had tabs
[04:15] <bluzeo> cfhowlett - i am thinking of plian ubuntu and install moska or bundgie
[04:15] <ryclik> aspire: Figure out what explorer pantheon had and install it
[04:16] <aspire> i will try to find it
[04:16] <aspire> another thing, i hate how win+t does not open terminal
[04:16] <mxp>  trying to look for good ubuntu icon pack
[04:16] <somsip> aspire: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/03/elementary-os-file-manager-pantheon.html and see !ppa
[04:17] <aspire> neat
[04:18] <mxp> how can I get dockbar like elementary OS on linux mint?
[04:18] <mxp> ubuntu*
[04:18] <cfhowlett> you jhave mint mxp?
[04:19] <mxp> ubuntu i confused with cinamon
[04:19] <mxp> :P
[04:20] <mxp> anyhow
[04:20] <mxp> ideas on dock bar
[04:20] <somsip> mxp: http://ubuntu.itsprite.com/ubuntuhow-to-install-the-pantheon-desktop-environment/
[04:20] <mxp> awesome
[04:21] <somsip> mxp: that is recent, but other sources suggest pantheon-dock, not plank. So maybe research more
[04:21] <mxp> somsip: would look more into it
[04:31] <samthewildone> I'm typing "ifcong" and get another interface instead of the typical eth0, any reasons why ?
[04:31] <samthewildone> only two interfaces I'm getting is enp2s0, lo
[04:39] <OptimizedCoder> I effed up with a s/w upgrade, I was on 14.04 - wanted an upgrade, 'do-release-upgrade' found nothing, went ahead and did a 'do-release-upgrade -d' and didn't realize that upgrades you to 16.04 - I was looking at going to 15.10. Now XFCE crashes at boot (yay mir?), all s/w that depended on upstart scripts get borked up (yay systemd!) - and I can't even find the KOdi binary anymore.
[04:39] <OptimizedCoder> Who decided 16.04 was ready for even alpha?
[04:40] <Bashing-om>  samthewildone Check out : /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules .
[04:42] <k1l> OptimizedCoder: dont blindly use commands you dont know what they do. the useage of the -d switch for "Developer Version" should have been a warning.
[04:43] <OptimizedCoder> k1l, understood, but there was no other way to go to 15.10 form 14.04
[04:43] <OptimizedCoder> *from
[04:43] <k1l> OptimizedCoder: that -d command works as early as the repos are opened for the next development stage. even pre-alpha
[04:44] <k1l> OptimizedCoder: there is. but since 14.10 is EOL alread you would have needed to use the old-releases repos
[04:44] <samthewildone> Bashing-om, there is nothing in there.
[04:44] <OptimizedCoder> k1l, I agree I effed up, Is there anyway that I can revert one ver back now (say, to 15.10)?
[04:44] <k1l> non LTS versions only got 9 months support now
[04:45] <k1l> OptimizedCoder: apt works in that way, that it will install the most recent versionnumber of a package. so downgrading a whole system doesnt really work.
[04:45] <Bashing-om> samthewildone: Sure there is .. read .. it tells where the naming comes from .. and if you want you can change the 'name' .
[04:46] <OptimizedCoder> k1l, sigh okay.. I believe 16.04 has a long way to go then .. to atleast be usable..
[04:46] <k1l> OptimizedCoder: MIR is not standard in 16.04. neither is wayland. its just the latest xorg releases
[04:47] <k1l> and systemd is the standard since 15.04 already
[04:47] <samthewildone> okay another question before I dive in.
[04:48] <samthewildone> Is it possible to automatically copy text from terminal ?
[04:48] <SchrodingersScat> samthewildone: xclip close enough?
[04:48] <samthewildone> for example, I just ran "$cat document | less" however, I want to copy the text in the
[04:48] <SchrodingersScat> !info xclip | samthewildone
[04:49] <samthewildone> interesting, let me give it a try.
[04:49]  * SchrodingersScat uses that to paste in 'authentication' codes generated via means we shouldn't talk about here
[04:49] <k1l> samthewildone: no need to cat then | and then less. you can less directly
[04:49] <SchrodingersScat> k1l: thank you, I wan't be a catlesser now
[04:51] <samthewildone> k1l, bad habits
[04:58] <aldanon> anyone here able to give me a hand an apache server running wordpress?
[04:59] <aldanon> when putting in the IP in a browser, I get the confirmation the apache is running..but can't get the install wordpress page to come up
[04:59] <aldanon> i've got this install within virtualbox
[05:03] <SchrodingersScat> aldanon: so isit something like http://127.0.0.1/wordpress/install.php ?
[05:07] <aldanon> let me give that a shot schrodingscat
[05:08] <aldanon> yeah just a 404 again
[05:08] <aldanon> it's almost as if the mysql isnt working right
[05:10] <aldanon> SchrodingerScat: i'm not sure what to do
[05:11] <aldanon> I've gotta have this ready by Friday for work ;/
[05:11] <bisch> aldanon, maybe  http://localhost/wordpress/wp-admin/install.php
[05:12] <aldanon> dude thank you
[05:12] <aldanon> don't go any where lol
[05:12] <bisch> What are you using for installation instructions?
[05:12] <aldanon> all over the damn web lol
[05:15] <aldanon> bisch: i
[05:16] <Hund> aldanon: Why not use Digial Ocean or something?
[05:16] <aldanon> bisch: i've got access to it in virtualbox, question is now how do I access it outside
[05:16] <aldanon> hund: actually that was one of the ones I went through
[05:17] <bisch> That's where I got the wp-admin idea from...  Anyway, you want to access it from your vbox host or another pc on your network?
[05:17] <aldanon> so i got my user created, now i've gotta figure out how to access that same page from outside of virtualbox but still on my local network
[05:17] <Hund> aldanon: And? You didnt like them? :P
[05:17] <aldanon> it got me this far
[05:17] <bisch> You know the ip address of your virtual machine?
[05:17] <aldanon> aye
[05:18] <bisch> http://192.168.0.99/wordpress or something like that where the 192.168.0.99 is the ip address of your virtual machine.
[05:19] <bisch> assuming you set the vm up to use "bridging" or something that will cause it to get an ip address on the local network.
[05:20] <aldanon> yeah i changed it to bridging some time ago in the process
[05:21] <bisch> then: ifconfig should show you the ip address.
[05:22] <aldanon> this must be where i'm missing something
[05:22] <Hitechcg> aldanonL I just did this yesterday. You just need to go to adapter settings> advanced>port forwarding and enter the port you want to access in both boxes. name it what you want, and leave the addresses blank.
[05:22] <aldanon> i'm getting a neither /etc/wordpress/config-ip address nor /etc/wordpress/config-168.1.15.php could be found
[05:23] <Hitechcg> nevermind, you already solved it. my way i just left it on NAT.
[05:24] <aldanon> virtalbox is the guest, os x is the host
[05:24] <aldanon> and yeah...bridged
[05:24] <Hitechcg> VirtualBox itself is not the guest, the guest is probably Linux.
[05:24] <bisch> Port forwarding would work too though.
[05:24] <aldanon> well right..ubuntu server
[05:25]  * Hitechcg facepalms
[05:25] <Hitechcg> I knew it was Ubuntu
[05:25] <aldanon> yeah not by choice trust me lol
[05:25] <bisch> So, sounds like you can access it but you botched the "config"?
[05:25] <aldanon> no idea honestly
[05:25] <aldanon> locally in virtualbox it appears to be working, i'm able to access wordpress
[05:26] <aldanon> both the config page and the actual page
[05:26] <Hitechcg> You can access the Apache webserver from OS X, right?
[05:26] <aldanon> but when i try from os x, i'm still only able to access apache
[05:27] <aldanon> well it's the "it works!" page
[05:27] <aldanon> confirming it is connecting, just no wordpress
[05:28] <bisch> aldanon, even if you use http://192.168.0.99/wordpress/wp-admin ?
[05:29] <aldanon> when i put that in I get /etc/wordpress-ip address.php nor /etc/wordpress/config-168.1.15.php
[05:29] <aldanon> could not be found
[05:29] <bisch> Actually, it might restrict access to wp-admin to the local machine
[05:30] <bisch> The 168.1.15 looks like a PARTIAL ip address...  Did you enter that somewhere?
[05:30] <aldanon> it says ensure one of them exists, is readable by the webserver and contains the right password/username
[05:30] <bisch> maybe you left out a ".0"
[05:31] <bisch> Whats the ip address of the VM?  192.168.1.15 maybe?
[05:32] <Hitechcg> I thought VBox used 10.0.2.x.
[05:32] <Hitechcg> nvm
[05:32] <aldanon> yeap
[05:33] <bisch> What's in /etc/wordpress?  any config* files?
[05:34] <aldanon> there's a config-localhost.php and htaccess
[05:34] <aldanon> just those two
[05:34] <aldanon> no other files
[05:35] <bisch> ah... that's probably why it works with "localhost"
[05:36] <aldanon> there was a step where it was asking me to enter a url, but I don't have a real one to attach to this
[05:37] <aldanon> I'm thinking that may be related
[05:37] <bisch> I'm not really a wordpress expert.  Did you create a wp-config.php file somewhere along the way?  Yes... that could be related.  What did you enter?
[05:37] <aldanon> that and www-data doesn't seem to exist
[05:38] <aldanon> i didn't do the step, the instruction was "if you're in a virtual box and know what your domain name is going to be, do this here"
[05:38] <bisch> Maybe try going through: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-14-04
[05:38] <bisch> and making sure you hit all the steps?
[05:39] <bisch> But, I don't see much about urls or ip addresses.
[05:41] <bisch> You could take a wild guess and try something like: cp /etc/wordpress/config-localhost.php /etc/wordpress/config-168.1.15.php
[05:42] <bisch> Or, there is a #wordpress channel
[05:43] <SchrodingersScat> !info wordpress | I didn't even think to check if this is a package.
[05:43] <Hitechcg> is it outdated?
[05:48] <sudomarize> How can I clean space on /boot to install kernal updates?
[05:49] <sudomarize> kernel*
[05:49] <somsip> sudomarize: did you try the approaches in the link I gave you yesterday?
[05:51] <sudomarize> somsip: ah no, didn't get around to it. Lemme give it a shot
[05:51] <somsip> sudomarize: best to follow the advice you've been given rather than asking for the same advice again
[05:52] <sudomarize> somsip: just wanted to clarify and get some consensus before deleting kernel images
[05:53] <aldanon> i got it through wget
[05:53] <sudomarize> fucked around with stuff like this before without having a good understanding of what i was doing or without verification of advice, and it hasn't ended well
[05:53] <aldanon> i've completely screwed it now though anyhow..tried changing the web address from the wordpress config page
[05:53] <somsip> sudomarize: the first answer on that link has 353 upvotes. Consensus is pretty much there. and no need for bad language in here
[05:56] <goddard> how can i figure out how many out of tree modules i have?
[05:57] <somsip> goddard: does this help? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/196616/identify-out-of-tree-modules
[05:58] <goddard> somsip: perfect that is actually exactly why i need to figure it out
[05:58] <goddard> trying to install a newer kernel from the repos
[05:58] <somsip> goddard: np
[05:59] <sudomarize> somsip: that doesn't clarify on whether that advice was the correct advice for my particular situation, only that the advice given correct for some particular situation (which may or may not be the same as mine). As to the language, it's the same meaning as to play/muck/screw around with, there was no malicious intent behind it and thus no reason to censor it. We're all mature, and anyone mature enough to use
[05:59] <sudomarize> IRC can handle it
[05:59] <somsip> sudomarize: on the language, personally I do not care. But you're in a communityhere and you should respect the rules of the community. Simple as that
[06:00] <somsip> !guidelines | sudomarize
[06:00] <sudomarize> somsip: anyway removing the previous kernel images worked, so thanks for that
[06:01] <somsip> sudomarize: np - I appreciate it can be unnerving because of the pitfalls, but the approach on that stackoverflow page is sound
[06:01] <LJSeinfeld> HI-  trying to get vboxmanage to start a vm at boot.. currently via rc.local but I can't get it to work.. rc.local calls a script... the script works.  and If I manually start rc.local, it works..  no idea.
[06:02] <UserUS> sudomarize: how does one do that?
[06:02] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: can you paste the script?
[06:02] <goddard> somsip: not seeing a list of modules there though
[06:02] <LJSeinfeld> sure -- one sec
[06:02] <somsip> goddard: I have no idea myself. That just looked like an appropriate page to offer to you.
[06:03] <sudomarize> UserUS: follow the instructions on the 2nd comment (with 147 votes) here -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[06:04] <daftykins> pretty sure nobody gets more than just 'ubuntu' in the top of GRUB these days
[06:05] <UserUS> daftykins: I have refind so I have a visual display but I still have multiple kernels for I guess recovery if one fails
[06:05] <daftykins> usually those are underneath 'advanced options'
[06:05] <daftykins> which ubuntu is this?
[06:06] <aldanon> anyone else care to take a stab at helping me out? i've got an ubuntu server with lamp, wordpress installed and need help now
[06:06] <somsip> aldanon: ask - I didn't see your original problem
[06:06] <LJSeinfeld> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13638719/
[06:06] <LJSeinfeld> sorry it took so long.. it's a remote machine and it was rebooting
[06:07] <aldanon> somsip: i was able to access it virtualbox which is where ubuntu & wordpress reside, but couldn't get to it from osx the host
[06:08] <UserUS> daftykins: its a bootloader you install in the esp. ever go to a college and see the visual selection of mac or pc when it boots? same thing.
[06:08] <aldanon> somsip: unfortunately I botched that by changing the url on the wordpress config page, so I guess first of all I need to change it back to what it was
[06:08] <daftykins> i know what rEFInd is.
[06:08] <somsip> aldanon: make sure they're on the same subnet - that you have bridged networking, or NAT working selected as appropriate (I can never remember which one works and which doesnt)
[06:08] <aldanon> somsip: on on bridged
[06:08] <somsip> aldanon: same subnet?
[06:08] <aldanon> somsip: yeap
[06:08] <daftykins> UserUS: i know, but that's not our problem as it's not an ubuntu thing :)
[06:09] <LJSeinfeld> I can get it to start at boot via the ~/.config/autostart folder by placing a virtualbox desktop file in there, but I need it to start with a delay (I think) because it seemingly can't find a ahared folder on another mounted drive if it starts too fast
[06:09] <aldanon> somsip: but like i said first of all i need to get it back to the way it was before i changed the url on the settings page
[06:09] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: put a sleep in the script?
[06:09] <somsip> aldanon: this doesn't appear to be an ubuntu issue - it sounds like you've just got wordpress configured incorrectly
[06:10] <aldanon> somsip: wordpress channel said the same thing lol
[06:10] <UserUS> daftykins: The bootloader works perfectly find, it's the grub.cfg file that has the multiple kernels listed....Only show up if I load the grub loader instead of booting directly into the partition but its still annoying
[06:10] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: of even better, a test that the drive is mounted
[06:10] <LJSeinfeld> I was trying to call the script from rc.local  -- and the sleep part would be easy to add, but the VM never starts for some reason
[06:10] <aldanon> somsip: thought they said it's an ubuntu problem
[06:10] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: log the output of the script to a log file so you can see what the error is?
[06:10] <daftykins> UserUS: so you still haven't stated which ubuntu version despite asking 5 mins ago :)
[06:11] <LJSeinfeld> the thing is, the script works..
[06:11] <somsip> aldanon: if it was working once, and you changed something, and now it isn't, it doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue. Or maybe I've misunderstood your issue
[06:11] <aldanon> I think the real issue lies in that people in the wordpress channel aren't versed in ubuntu, and ubuntu channel isn't versed in wordpress lol
[06:11] <LJSeinfeld> but it doesn't work when I try to call it from rc.local
[06:11] <LJSeinfeld> BUT... if I fire rc.local manually... it works... fml..
[06:11] <somsip> aldanon: I'm versed in WP, god help me, but this is not the place for a dicussion on how to configure it
[06:12] <UserUS> daftykins: Lol, 14.04
[06:12] <aldanon> i normally wouldn't be under these conditions, but it's for work ;/
[06:12] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: I was expecting somethign environmental, but you've got nothing that is obviously dodgy in that script. As long as the VM file is readable
[06:13] <LJSeinfeld> I don't understand why rc.local won't run it
[06:13] <LJSeinfeld> I put a couple of "canary in the mineshaft" commands in the script --like having it make a directory on the desktop after the vboxmanage command... and those worked
[06:13] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: you could try su -l dave ... so that the env is properly setup
[06:14] <LJSeinfeld> is that a pipe in there ("-|")
[06:15] <LJSeinfeld> looks to be
[06:15] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: l for --login
[06:15] <YOGOTTI> CIVIL WAR AGAINST MUSLIMS
[06:15] <YOGOTTI> CIVIL WAR AGAINST MUSLIMS
[06:15] <somsip> !ops | YOGOTTI
[06:15] <YOGOTTI> CIVIL WAR AGAINST MUSLIMS
[06:15] <LJSeinfeld> ah --ok
[06:15] <YOGOTTI> MUST KILL ALL MUSLIM
[06:15] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: no...--login ;-)
[06:16] <LJSeinfeld> so something like su -l dave "/usr/bin/vboxmanage startvm Zoidberg"
[06:16] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: you still need the -c for the command
[06:17] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: and the & for backgrounding (unless vboxmanage detaches)
[06:17] <LJSeinfeld> ok -- so su -l -c dave "/usr/bin/vboxmanage startvm Zoidberg &"
[06:18] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: worth a stab, in case it is something environmental
[06:18] <LJSeinfeld> lets see if it works... brb
[06:19] <daftykins> UserUS: when a normal GRUB is brought up, it only has maybe 3 options tops - so it must be the non-standard setup imo.
[06:19] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: and...possibly you need to start it headless, because when you test it you're in X, but when the script runs it has no display http://askubuntu.com/questions/57220/start-vboxheadless-vm-at-startup or http://askubuntu.com/questions/404665/how-to-start-virtual-box-machines-automatically-when-booting
[06:19] <UserUS> daftykins: that it is...I edited the bootloader manually and customized it
[06:20] <daftykins> UserUS: yeah, so then your issues are your own :)
[06:20] <LJSeinfeld> Got this:  No passwd entry for user '/usr/bin/vboxmanage startvm Zoidberg &
[06:21] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: su -l dave -c "command" :)
[06:21] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: did you see my point about headless?
[06:21] <LJSeinfeld> not sure I follow
[06:21] <UserUS> daftykins: lol so persistent...I only asked how to remove old images, everything else is great
[06:21] <LJSeinfeld> and wouldn't a delay possibly fix that too?
[06:22] <daftykins> UserUS: "sudo apt-get autoremove" should cull a lot, otherwise "dpkg -l | grep linux-" ; then take the package names and purge the -extra before the images main - and headers.
[06:22] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: not sure, but if vboxmanage requires a display, it doesn't have one when run from rc.local. But it does when you just run the script. The links suggest vboxmange --type=headless or VBoxHeadless (instead of vboxmanage)
[06:23] <Holeis> hai..
[06:23] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: about the delay fixing that - no because the display isn't part of the environment when rc.local is run
[06:23] <Holeis> who are you... ?
[06:23] <somsip> !ot | Holeis
[06:24] <LJSeinfeld> edited the script and it works on its own now.. now I just need a way to call it when I have login/desktop
[06:24] <LJSeinfeld> I've also tried the upstart folder in ~/.config
[06:25] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: both of those links have information that may be useful for you. I'd suggest having a read
[06:25] <LJSeinfeld> that's even a little more confusing...
[06:26] <mobile3> any video joiner software?
[06:26] <LJSeinfeld> so do I need to undo all these things I do when I try and they fail?
[06:26] <somsip> mobile3: what format?
[06:27] <LJSeinfeld> like init.d stuff
[06:27] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: not necessarily - there just may be an approach described in those links that works better for what you want
[06:27] <somsip> LJSeinfeld: you don't *need* it as a service. But there may be hints in the example scripts they provide that will help you see where you are going wrong
[06:27] <mobile3> somsip: mp4
[06:27] <LJSeinfeld> I've been reading and trial-and-erroring for 2 days.... going crazy, lol
[06:29] <somsip> mobile3: You could use cat depending on the format, or this described using ffmpeg (which has been replaced by avconv) in thae last example which I'm sure i've used successfully before http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/135157/terminal-tool-to-join-mp4-videos
[06:30] <CarlFK> mobile3: http://www.shotcut.org/bin/view/Shotcut/Download
[06:32] <CarlFK> mobile3: there are all sorts of ways of doing what you are asking.  I would start with Shotcut, open file1, drag it onto the time line, open file2, drag it onto the time line, click encode, and let it go.
[06:35] <_DB> does anyone know of file recover software for a formatted HDD
[06:36] <_DB> I formatted my HD want to recover some files I did this on windows once
[06:36] <somsip> !undelete | _DB
[06:36] <_DB> thnks
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> _DB: or photorec with the package testdisk
[06:37] <k1l> !photorec  _DB
[06:37] <k1l> !photorec | _DB
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | _DB tnx to k1l
[06:39] <_DB> alright thanks dudes will look at it
[06:42] <glenn_> test
[06:43] <_DB> also to install ubuntu to my hdd i have to remake a start up disk?
[06:44] <mobile3> CarlFK: How to install that through command ?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> _DB: would be handy if you made an ubuntu startup usb yes
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !usb | _DB
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> _DB: maybe choose the long time support version 14.04.3?
[06:45] <CarlFK> mobile3: wget https://github.com/mltframework/shotcut/releases/download/v15.12/shotcut-debian7-x86_64-151201.tar.bz2 ; tar xvf shotcut-debian7-x86_64-151201.tar.bz2
[06:45] <CarlFK> mobile3: then run Shotcut/Shotcut.app/shotcut
[06:46] <CarlFK> mobile3: that's what I do.  there may be a PPA you can apt-get from but I don't know.
[06:46] <CarlFK> mobile3: brb
[06:49] <somsip> !ppa | mobile3 (search link is one here for PPAs)
[06:50] <glenn_> CarlFK: how long have you been using UBUNTU STUDIO? i'm testing it on VM... is it good for recording?
[06:51] <CarlFK> glenn_: I have never used u-studio
[06:51] <glenn_> CarlFK: oh sorry... i'm a newbie here :-)
[06:52] <glenn_> CarlFK: what OS are you running by the way?
[06:53] <CarlFK> glenn_: ubuntu vivid
[06:53] <somsip> glenn_: if you have a support question, ask it. If not, take chatter to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[06:54] <glenn_> somsip: do linux OS good for audio recording?
[06:56] <YermJobs3391> Hello all
[06:57] <goddard> ok guys i updated the kernel and still having an issue with the xbox one controller - http://askubuntu.com/questions/704892/xbox-one-controller-crashes-ubuntu
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> goddard: ok good you tried, can you test on 15.10 livemode also?
[06:59] <glenn_> test
[07:02] <YermJobs3391> How to hack facebook acount from ubuntu
[07:02] <somsip> !illegal | YermJobs3391
[07:02] <k1l> YermJobs3391: this is not the focus of this help channel
[07:03] <YermJobs3391> I am sorry
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> goddard: if you test a few kernels out, and they all make your ubuntu crash, i start to think of k1l suggestion maybe your controller makes bad electric shortcut?
[07:05] <goddard> lotuspsychje: yeah not sure if i connect it to a USB hub would that change that?
[07:05] <daftykins> hubs make everything worse
[07:06] <somsip> daftykins: though they can bypass a dodgy usb port (/me looks down at his own computer)
[07:07] <daftykins> somsip: do you still use that bad one for the upstream from said hub?
[07:08] <somsip> daftykins: no - one of the front USB ports is dodgy, so a hub goes to a back port to make access easier. Perhaps not a great example :)
[07:08] <daftykins> ^_^
[07:10] <k1l> goddard: see askubuntu. there is no working solution today.
[07:11] <goddard> on the plus side upgrading to the newer kernel made by touch pad two finger scrolling work
[07:13] <goddard> k1l: cool thanks
[07:14] <mobile3> somsip: I used cat but it didn't work. Only the first file is appended....
[07:15] <somsip> mobile3: as the link says, cat only works with some encodings
[07:19] <mobile3> carlFK: I downloaded the shotcut but it is not opening
[07:26] <gnumonk> Hi
[07:28] <gnumonk> How to change the login: prompt in lxc? I have ubuntu container and it comes as "login:" prompt, I wanted to change to something like "lxc  login:" .
[07:28] <gnumonk> Please note that I am not asking post login messege .
[07:33] <nanoi> grub wasn't installing so i followed an advice to zero out the beginning on my hdd; unfortunately i erased my partition table and now grub says that it cannot find a drive for /dev/sdaX; i'm still booted on my linux partition right now, is there a way to save the partition table?
[07:36] <daftykins> nanoi: oh dear! that was unwise. testdisk might help
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[07:42] <daftykins> o/
[07:44] <EriC^^> morning lotuspsychje , daftykins
[07:49] <LJSeinfeld> Ugh... somehow I lost access to the GUI on my remote machine... (connecting via nomachine)  can anyone help get it back?
[07:49] <LJSeinfeld> I have shell access, btw
[07:50] <LJSeinfeld> and nomachine still connects... just shows me a black screen with the "user blah connected" bubble...
[07:52] <LJSeinfeld> actually ... too much work for tonight.. going to sleep now... thanks
[07:52] <mobile3> any light weight video joiner any other ??
[07:56] <somsip> mobile3: did you try ffmpeg/avconv?
[07:57] <mobile3> somsip: using ffmpeg, only first file is appended...
[07:57] <somsip> mobile3: you said that about cat. Are you sure...?
[07:57] <mobile3> somsip: yes using cat and ffmpeg, only first file is appended
[07:58] <somsip> mobile3: paste the command you used for ffmpeg
[07:58] <gnumonk> any idea?
[08:00] <mobile3> somsip: http://pastebin.com/Cni1JVhn
[08:05] <somsip> mobile3: ok - take a look at this and see if it's helpful http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7333232/concatenate-two-mp4-files-using-ffmpeg
[08:15] <fruitmysta> hey guys
[08:15] <fruitmysta> name some good hacking channels?
[08:16] <k1l> !alis | fruitmysta
[08:18] <fruitmysta> how do i use alis?
[08:18] <VsyachePuz> how to solve such problem (i run into it too) - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meld/+bug/1520129
[08:20] <Guest19836> Can anyone explain what UPSTART Is? does it show what services are runnign on startup or am i confusing that with windows?
[08:22] <somsip> !upstart | Guest19836
[08:22] <JamesMIke> can anyone explain UPSTART to me in ubuntu, does it show services started or is that justme cnfusing it with windows version of startup
[08:37] <delt> Hello
[08:38] <delt> is there any way to enable the old school /dev/snd and /dev/dsp required by some old apps?
[08:38] <delt> ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[08:46] <_jacks> hi, i'm having trouble with chrome, it seems to use /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p directly, which i suspect is causing locking on it and sometimes causing sound to be completely muted or seemingly unavailable
[08:46] <_jacks> is there anyway to force chrome to use pulseaudio
[08:46] <_jacks> if so how do i do it ?
[08:47] <mobile3> somsip: I didn't follow the method on that page because I thought it will do the same thing... So I downloaded OpenShot
[08:50] <eoiz> hello i have a weird problem; after messing up the partition table, i wasn't able to install windows, so i deleted all partitions, create a new partition for half the disk, and installed windows 10; now the other half of the disk is unallocated, but here there is a linux partition which was working fine before deleting the partition table; is there a way to get back this partition without messing up the EFI/MBR or the windows partition
[08:52]  * luk 
[08:54] <k1l> eoiz: making a new partition table means the disk forgets where all the partitions were. then installing new stuff means overwriting a lot of that again. honestly i would not say there is much hope. you could dig into it with photorec and such but i there is not a easy undo button for that stuff.
[08:54] <beny18> hai
[08:54] <eoiz> k1l: can't i make a new partition table which includes the already including partitions + the linux partition from the unallocated space?
[08:55] <k1l> eoiz: you could try that
[08:57] <Dove_Cameron> Sorry
[08:58] <daftykins> ?
[08:58] <Dove_Cameron> Do you even know who I am?
[08:58] <Dove_Cameron> Google me
[08:58] <daftykins> a troll, go away please
[08:58] <Flannel> Dove_Cameron: Please stop.  This channel isn't for banter.
[08:58] <fruitmysta> lol
[08:58] <Dove_Cameron> Flannel, oh, the -offtopic would be better?
[08:58] <Flannel> Dove_Cameron: Sure.
[08:59] <Dove_Cameron> you assume, just because I am famous, means I am not going to say anything on topic?
[09:00] <_jacks> so does anyone know how to switch chrome to use pulseaudio, it seems alsa is blocking on /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[09:00] <_jacks> .._sometimes_
[09:01] <jamesmIke> can anyon ehelp me with UPSTART?
[09:02] <daftykins> you need to ask the actual question, jamesmIke
[09:04] <jamesmIke> daftykins OH RIGHT, ok Can someone help me with UPSTART? I want a list of all services that start on startup, i have done two commands already, but have since read online about upstart. Is UPSTART showing commands that start ob bootup or am i mixing that up wit WIndows STARTUP
[09:06] <TJ-> jamesmIke: "service --status-all" will show the current status. but, all Upstart init files in /etc/init/ will be parsed and used as per their "start on" directives
[09:08] <jamesmIke> TJ- Can you explain this please :  all Upstart init files in /etc/init/ will be parsed and used as per their "start on" directives
[09:08] <TJ-> jamesmIke: /etc/init/ contains all the system servicee config files for Upstart
[09:09] <TJ-> jamesmIke: it's all documented in the Cookbook: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#job-configuration-file
[09:11] <jamesmIke> TJ- Thanks. SO to figure out all services that start on boot would be to use the previous command you have shown me yes
[09:12] <TJ-> jamesmIke: correct
[09:13] <jamesmIke> TJ- Excellent TJ, I will check this out now.. I see some services I do not want runnning.. si their a way to configure these not to start on boot?
[09:13] <TJ-> jamesmIke: yes, it's all documented in the cookbook
[09:14] <daftykins> you should bear in mind that if you're coming from Windows, you can't apply the same logic about disabling startup items really ;)
[09:14] <Ben64> shouldn't disable things that you don't know the purpose of
[09:16] <jamesmIke> TJ- Thanks il check it out now
[09:17] <TJ-> Ben64: I'd say exactly the opposite!
[09:17] <TJ-> I don't want services running if I don't know their purpose!
[09:20] <daftykins> :)
[09:20] <daftykins> they might be important out of the box ;)
[09:20] <TJ-> You and your boxes!
[09:21] <daftykins> XD
[09:56] <brahzwell> how to uninstall the unity spyware and ads yo?
[09:58] <bekks> brahzwell: There is no unity spyware.
[10:03] <Pricey> For everyone else: http://askubuntu.com/questions/629248/globally-disable-include-online-search-results
[10:17] <pragomer_1> hi.   What is wrong about that udev-rule: (it does not work at all) http://pastebin.com/BhBi5aNq
[10:20] <pragomer_1>   tail -n 10 -f /var/log/syslog   tells me that the script failed with exit code 1. But the script itself works
[10:34] <morsicus>  Hi everyone, little question relative to rsyslog. Is it possible to escape all \n in %msg (Challenge : I have \t in my %msg and i want to keep it ) :D
[10:50] <yuriy> LINUX2410
[11:02] <shapka> hi
[11:03] <shapka> anyone here ?
[11:03] <ikonia> many people
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !ask | shapka
[11:03] <shapka> ok o trap
[11:03] <ikonia> ?
[11:03] <shapka> o kari ku je
[11:04] <cfhowlett> not english and no idea what he's saying, ikonia
[11:05] <shapka> o trapa ?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !english | shapka
[11:05] <shapka> oh sorry
[11:05] <shapka> :(
[11:06] <cfhowlett> shapka, ask your ubuntu question.  in English.
[11:11] <OpenSorce> When I switch users or logout back to the greeter it changes my resolution to something unusable. Why would it do that?
[11:11] <OpenSorce> I fix it in my DEs with an autostart xrandr script but I'd like it stop happening instead.
[11:12] <simbo> looking for some ubuntu advice....... I just got root access to my ubuntu vps, with the aim of using acd_cli to mount my amazon unlimited storage to it..... but my ubuntu on there is really old, 12.04........ If I upgrade it is it likely to kill of all the configuration thats already done on the box? i.e. couchpotato, sickrage, urtorrent , rutorrent and plex?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> simbo: upgrade can save your /home and configs, but always wise to keep backups
[11:14] <cfhowlett> simbo, if you do a hot upgrade, your settings should be maintained.  if you do a clean install (don't know how that would work, ask your provider), you should be careful to avoid formatting your /home. you will have to reinstall all the non-default apps.
[11:14] <simbo> hmm... ok
[11:15] <simbo> i wouldn't do a clean install, no way
[11:15] <simbo> will it keep things like iptables setup et?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> simbo, so a hot uprgrade.  .configs should be maintained.
[11:18] <Loke-ion> hello, I am trying to use some lightweight flavour of ubuntu like lubuntu or lxle but on everything (LTS or 15.10) of xubuntu, lubuntu, lxle and ubuntu LTS I don't have full gpu driver support and brightness doesn't work (Fn button works)
[11:19] <Loke-ion> only in ubuntu 15.10 it works
[11:19] <simbo> ok sounds good...... I want to check where they've installed everything first (i didn't do the installation)
[11:19] <Loke-ion> have tried nouveau and nvidia drivers
[11:19] <simbo> do-release-upgrade is a hot upgrade, right?
[11:20] <bekks> Whats a "hot upgrade" vs "cold upgrade"?
[11:21] <simbo> I think a hot upgrade will be using the inbuilt upgrade system, like you would on windows/mac etc..... cold must be a wipe and re-install i think
[11:22] <bekks> I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.
[11:22] <ikonia> do you mean "in situ"
[11:22] <ikonia> as in upgrade your existing OS to a later version ?
[11:22] <bekks> do-release-upgrade upgrades your OS release to the next release, e.g.
[11:23] <simbo> I was answering what I though a hot vs cold upgrade is.....
[11:24] <bekks> simbo: Well the word "upgrade" implies "not reinstall" :)
[11:24] <simbo> however, it looks like the person that set it up installed software to /, so I guess upgrading would wipe that out
[11:25] <simbo> good point bekks (sorry I don't know how to tag names)
[11:25] <bekks> simbo: On Ubuntu, you always install software to /
[11:25] <Desu> on anything posix
[11:25] <simbo> oh, I don't use ubuntu often at all
[11:25] <Desu> /home is under / after all :)
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: wich card chipset?
[11:25] <Loke-ion> nvidia ION LE
[11:25] <Loke-ion> wondering if I can find why it works on 15.10
[11:25] <Loke-ion> and "replicate" that on lxle
[11:25] <Loke-ion> keep in mind I am a new simple user of linux
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: thats also optimus?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Loke-ion, we can't help with lxle.  it's not ubuntu and not supported here.
[11:25] <Loke-ion> works on ubuntu 15.10 * doesn't work on 15.10 lubuntu / xubuntu
[11:25] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje I don't understand
[11:25] <Loke-ion> cfhowlett lubuntu even would help
[11:25] <Loke-ion> unity is too heavy it seems
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: your ion le card has optimus technology?
[11:25] <Loke-ion> never heard of the term but I can't confirm or deny that
[11:25] <Loke-ion> ION LE was like a one time thing for netbooks / notebooks I think
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: can you pastebin sudo lshw -C video from terminal
[11:25] <Loke-ion> sure give me a sec to do it on the notebook
[11:25] <fishcooker> how to report kernel panic before i install linux-crashdump?
[11:26] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje http://pastebin.com/9mf4XhQH
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: ok try to install nvidia-prime
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: and choose an nvidia driver from your additional drivers section
[11:27] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje just to make sure, atm I am running ubuntu 15.10 where graphics seem ok and brightness works
[11:27] <Porfa> i screwed up.
[11:28] <Loke-ion> on anything else be it ubuntu LTS, lubuntu LTS / 15.10 etc doesn't
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: ok, if things work now, how about you install lubuntu-desktop from your existing system
[11:28] <simbo> the only reason I want to update is so I can run an application written in python, but a version of python that isn't available to my version of ubuntu :(
[11:29] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje eh got a link for that?
[11:29] <ikonia> simbo: you said this was a VPS right ?
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | Loke-ion sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <Loke-ion> nice
[11:29] <simbo> yeah it is
[11:29] <Loke-ion> any idea why nouveau works here but doesn't on other distros?
[11:29] <ikonia> simbo: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[11:29] <bekks> simbo: So which ubuntu version do you use?
[11:29] <ikonia> simbo: (from your VPS)
[11:30] <Loke-ion> and if I could install this version to them?
[11:30] <Porfa> i used mv to move a directory from a secundary harddrive into a new folder on a NEW harddrive, but my ssh session timedou’t so i went back in again, and i’ve done the same thing, so whatever was moved before, was coppied over. you know who’s this fault is? Bill Gates and his f***ing windows, years and years i coulda move folders and “overwrite” the folder new content only BY DEFAULT. so this is the first time it has happend to me.. 
[11:30] <Porfa> hope is, i moved the data from the hardrive and never touched / written on that said hdd again.. so.. where’s “undelete”… ? or am i really F***** ? :|
[11:30] <ikonia> Porfa: no need for the language, if you can't explain without swearing, don't explain
[11:30] <simbo> 2.6.32-042stab111.12
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: normally optimus cards will need nvidia-prime + nvidia version driver to perform well
[11:30] <simbo> is that what you want?
[11:31] <ikonia> simbo: ok - I strongly advise you not to upgrade
[11:31] <simbo> lol ok
[11:31] <ikonia> simbo: talk to your hosting provider, and ask them for THEIR upgrade process
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: but lets try that lubuntu-desktop on your existing system first
[11:31] <bekks> simbo: Which Ubuntu version do you use?
[11:31] <Loke-ion> but the output from the command you gave me, shows nouveau used and not nvidia drivers correct? lotuspsychje
[11:31] <simbo> ah if they give you root , they basically wash their hands of managing it for you
[11:31] <Porfa> well ikonia if im gonna get a slap on the wrist for censoring my language when i lost a massive amount of data, i guess next time i won’t censor it, because.. data is gone.
[11:31] <simbo> bekks its 12.04
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: correct, its using nouveau right now
[11:31] <ikonia> Porfa: and you won't be welcome in the cahnnel
[11:32] <ikonia> Porfa: control your langauge and just explain clearly the problem you want help with
[11:32] <Porfa> well, i don’t want that
[11:32] <boax> hello
[11:32] <Porfa> ok ikonia  i will, thank you
[11:32] <ikonia> Porfa: thanks
[11:32] <bekks> Porfa: If data is gone, you data wasnt worth enough for you for having a backup.
[11:32] <bekks> *your
[11:32] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje so it seems this nouvea driver works. Maybe ubuntu 15.10 has some newer version compared to other distros? Wouldn't it be logical that if I installed that version to them it would work?
[11:32] <Porfa> bekks: :(
[11:33] <simbo> so my real issue that caused me to look into upgrade is that I want to run acd_cli, but it needs a version of python that isn't available on this version of ubuntu
[11:33] <hateball> Loke-ion: nouveau is included in the kernel
[11:33] <bekks> simbo: Which version is needed, exactly?
[11:33] <bgardner> Porfa, This won't help you today but also consider something like tmux so if your ssh session drops your login continues and can be re-attached to.
[11:33] <somsip> simbo: check the deadsnakes repo, or use virtualenv
[11:33] <Porfa> like “screen” ?
[11:33] <bekks> Porfa: Yes.
[11:33] <Loke-ion> hateball so I can't do anything unless the kernel is upgraded?
[11:34] <somsip> !ppa | simbo (deadsnakes PPA, I mean)
[11:34] <hateball> Loke-ion: I'm not sure what the original question was, I just looked at your latest statement
[11:34] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje btw I am upgrading
[11:34] <Porfa> i used to use screen for irc.. i never though of it for ssh.. :/ thanks for the tip. im not a power user, i just started using this for decent/stable LAMP for personal projects.
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: you mean installing lubuntu
[11:34] <EriC^^> Porfa: how'd your data disappear anyways, you ran mv, connection dropped, then you ran mv again?
[11:34] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje yea lubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <Porfa> yes EriC^^
[11:34] <Porfa> windows taught me wrong :(
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: thats not an upgrade, but it will install lubuntu next to ubuntu
[11:35] <simbo> I've got the right version of python installed, but its missing some of the dependencies for the program I want to run....
[11:35] <EriC^^> Porfa: why would that be a problem though?
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: after install, you can logout and login to lubuntu
[11:35] <Porfa> because the data is gone
[11:35] <simbo> ill look into the PPA's. Ive gotta do some work right now though
[11:35] <bekks> simbo: Name. The. Version.
[11:35] <Loke-ion> hateball I don't have full gpu (nvidia ion le) support on my notebook on anything except ubuntu 15.10. ubuntu LTS or lubuntu LTS / 15.10 or xubuntu etc brightness won't work and I get glitches
[11:35] <bekks> simbo: Or are you ignoring me?
[11:35] <simbo> bekks? of ubuntu? I answered earlier 12.04
[11:35] <EriC^^> Porfa: so you mean while you were doing the mv, the connection dropped, when you checked the dir it was empty? ( the original ?)
[11:35] <bekks> simbo: Python.
[11:35] <bekks> simbo: Which exact python version do you need?
[11:36] <simbo> 3.4.3
[11:36] <simbo> ive got it and compiled it
[11:36] <simbo> already
[11:36] <simbo> give me a few mins, gotta test something.......
[11:37] <Porfa> EriC^^:  no, the original dir was missing the files it had moved before the connection dropped, the new folder had the missing files form the original dir. the problem is that i just wanted to “resume” the operation, and what happend is that, it deleted the new folder, deleting the previous moved files, and putting the new ones there.
[11:37] <hateball> Loke-ion: 14.04 uses an older kernel by default, but it is possible to upgrade by installing the package linux-image-generic-lts-wily for instance
[11:37] <somsip> simbo: deadsnakes offers 3.4 for precise - usually caveats apply about PPAs https://launchpad.net/~fkrull/+archive/ubuntu/deadsnakes/+index?batch=75&memo=75&start=75
[11:37] <Porfa> my hope is that where i moved (removed) the data from, the disk hasn’t been writen over
[11:37] <hateball> Loke-ion: that will get you the kernel used in 15.10, while still being able to use the one in 14.04 by picking one in grub
[11:37] <EriC^^> Porfa: mv usually if you do mv /bla /blabla , and then /blabla exists, it'll just move /bla into /blabla, so you have /blabla/bla
[11:37] <hateball> Loke-ion: anyhow, the kernel is the same regardless of desktop environment used, so it should not matter if you use unity or lxde
[11:38] <Loke-ion> hateball but in lubuntu 15.10  it doesn't work
[11:38] <EriC^^> Porfa: oh i see
[11:38] <bekks> EriC^^: He was using two different disks for source and target.
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: lets find out after your install :p
[11:38] <EriC^^> bekks: same thing, it's just mv 's operation
[11:38] <bekks> EriC^^: Yeah.
[11:38] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje I mean on a clean install using lubuntu 15.10 iso
[11:39] <EriC^^> Porfa: anyways, the old data could be retrieved using testdisk or photorec
[11:39] <Loke-ion> which is weird if the kernel is the same
[11:40] <EriC^^> Porfa: what filesystem is on the 2 disks?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: installed with cable/updates enabled? and fully updated system after?
[11:40] <Loke-ion> yar
[11:40] <EriC^^> Porfa: if one is fat32 you're super lucky..
[11:40] <hateball> Loke-ion: I am not sure what "doesnt work". But anyhow, lotuspsychje is already helping you so I will back off :)
[11:40] <simbo> thanks somsip ...... but I do have the right version of python installed, but I don't have it set for the entire system incase it broke other python stuff
[11:40] <Loke-ion> even tried switching to nvidia drivers latest and legacy lotuspsychje
[11:40] <Loke-ion> ok thx hateball
[11:41] <Porfa> EriC^^:  sorry i was on the phone. it’s ext4
[11:41] <EriC^^> Porfa: both disks?
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: but you didnt try nvidia-prime
[11:41] <Porfa> yes..
[11:41] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo apt-get install testdisk
[11:41] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje that is correct
[11:41] <EriC^^> Porfa: what kind of data is it?
[11:41] <Porfa> if it was fat, i’d have experience on windows and even ntfs, but linux.. damn.
[11:41] <Porfa> EriC^^: plain text
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: so lets test the lubuntu from here first, if that doesnt work try lubuntu LTS clean + nvidia-prime
[11:42] <Porfa> i mean, there’s other data there, byut it’s mostly some ruby and php scripts i was working on
[11:42] <EriC^^> Porfa: ok, install testdisk, it also has photorec that can search for text files if testdisk doesn't work
[11:42] <Porfa> the scripts is what i need, the data was being generated by the scripts, so i’ll start over.
[11:42] <Porfa> ok EriC^^ i will learn about “testdisk”
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Porfa suggested by EriC^^
[11:43] <EriC^^> there's also extundelete Porfa
[11:43] <Porfa> thank you guys, i will read about that and hopefully i’ll succedd
[11:43] <Porfa> and sorry ikonia ! thanks
[11:44] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje logged out clicked the icon and chose lubuntu, pressing the brightness key, shows the popup with the bar but screen doesn't change brightness :P
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: could be an acpi bug also on your machine
[11:45] <Loke-ion> lotuspsychje anything I can try?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: playing with dconf-editor or laptop-mode-tools perhaps
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: check your syslog and dmesg also for brightness issues
[11:47] <perrsert> lotuspsychje: Loke-ion has hdmi
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> perrsert: meaning?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> Loke-ion: i would also check if nvidia-settings show performance mode with nvidia-prime
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[11:59] <simon^^> I have a Beaglebone Black with Ubuntu 14.04 on which I am trying to get hostapd running on every boot. I`ve configured my /etc/network/interfaces with auto/allow-hotplug/hostapd config.conf and it works if I unplug an plug the USB dongle after boot. How would I go about troubleshooting this problem of mine?
[12:00] <simon^^> I.e. If I boot, hostapd is not started, but If i unplug and plug the wifi dongle after boot hostapd starts up
[12:03] <jluc> hello
[12:03] <jluc> avec 2 moniteurs sur une installation fraiche, le pointeur de la souris se bloque trop fortement à la séparation entre les 2 moniteurs
[12:04] <jluc> quel utilitaire permet d'avoir une circulation plus fluide de la souris d'un moniteur à l'autre ?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !fr | jluc
[12:04] <jluc> ah zut
[12:04] <jluc> ok
[12:05] <jluc> i'm looking for the tool that does enable the mouse to move fluently between monitors, without sticking at the limit ?
[12:06] <jluc> on a fresh LTS install, the mouse sticks strongly at the limit between screen 1 and screen 2
[12:06] <jluc> how can i get a free flow mouse move ?
[12:10] <adm001mi> hey all got an issue with dns/bind on ubuntu, server states it can't find the domain
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:13] <skywalquer> :D
[12:35] <daniel8888> hello,everyone.
[12:35] <skywalquer> Hello >D
[12:35] <skywalquer> :D
[12:35] <daniel8888> : )
[12:36] <daniel8888> i am a freshman here..
[12:36] <daniel8888> : D
[12:37] <sorin-mihai> i'm thinking to install openstack using maas. i don't find the hardware requirements, can anyone point me to them?
[12:38] <sorin-mihai> for maas I mean
[12:39] <asad_> I'm getting this error when I try to check the version of unity using "unity --version": http://paste.ubuntu.com/13643901/
[12:42] <fabio> Hello guys. I have chrome in full screen. i want to have a way to lock it. I mean, to the user not be able to go to the desktop. is there any way?
[12:43] <asad_> unity isn't crashing or anything. is this error supposed to be appearing in 15.10?
[12:43] <ioria> asad_, do you have this package installed   ?  python-gobject
[12:44] <asad_> ioria: It doesn't come installed in 15.10?
[12:45] <ioria> asad_, idr,   try  dpkg -l python-gobject
[12:45] <asad_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13643989/
[12:46] <ioria> asad_, try to install it then logout / login
[12:46] <asad_> ioria: Do I install it using the package manager?
[12:46] <ioria> asad_, sudo apt-get install python-gobject
[12:47] <ioria> !info python-gobject
[12:47] <asad_> ioria: Okay let me try.
[12:49] <asad_> ioria, hey yeah that seemed to have fixed it. it's showing the version number now.
[12:49] <ioria> asad_, good job !
[12:49] <placeed> Hi all ! I'm trying to run webserver on Ubuntu 14.04. Someone can help me to find good documentation for hardening ?
[12:49] <asad_> ioria, thanks!
[12:49] <ioria> asad_, you're welcome
[12:50] <placeed> Hardedning system and for web server too
[12:51] <fabio> is there any way to prevent user to close a program?
[12:51] <fabio> a gui program
[12:51] <bekks> fabio: No.
[12:51] <fabio> example disable alt+f4
[12:52] <fabio> that kind of things
[12:52] <bekks> There are far more ways to close a program rather than just alt+f4. But the answer is still "No".
[12:52] <ioria> placeed, give a quick look here maybe http://blog.mattbrock.co.uk/hardening-the-security-on-ubuntu-server-14-04/
[12:54] <ioria> fabio, never tried ... maybe as service daemon , re - spawning .... but it just an idea
[12:55] <jtheuer> fabio, maybe there is a special window manager (show just one application full screen)
[12:56] <Loke-ion> so after switching to nvidia drivers all the text is bigger, like even the title of programs
[12:56] <Loke-ion> how can I decrease that? is there something like a system wide font size?
[12:58] <hateball> Loke-ion: Adjust the DPI
[13:26] <yecril71pl> Hi.  Can I install eclipse-egit 4 on 14.04?
[13:27] <yecril71pl> The distribution gives me egit version 3, the plug-in hangs at switching branches.
[13:27] <astronautlevel> You can install eclipse from the official repositories, but it's an older version. (3.8)
[13:27] <astronautlevel> Another option is to install the eclipse version from the eclipse website, eclipse.org
[13:28] <yecril71pl> I have checked egit 4 works with eclipse 3.8 and does not hang.
[13:28] <OerHeks> indeed, no 4 yet. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse-egit
[13:31] <yecril71pl> I installed egit 4 from the marketplace within Eclipse 3.8 and it works all right.
[13:36] <asad_> Do I have to worry about these errors when I launch nautilus? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13644645/
[13:37] <OerHeks> asad_, no, that happens often when you start a gui program from terminal.
[13:37] <OerHeks> just warnings, no error.
[13:39] <asad_> OerHeks, Alright
[13:44] <lvleph> Is there a way to have an alias to a vendor:product id? I have a ps3 controller, but for some reason the id is 25f0:83c4 instead of 054c:0268 as expected.
[13:44] <fabio> how can i run chrome without launching a desktop enviroment?
[13:44] <fabio> is it possible?
[13:44] <krux_> lvleph, it would have to be done at kernel level or perhaps using udev rules
[13:45] <lvleph> fabio X11
[13:45] <daftykins> fabio: are you trying to setup a kiosk like setup?
[13:46] <lvleph> krux_ do you know anything about sixaxis controllers in linux? I have the source and could change the expected vendor:product id, but I have a feeling this would cause issues elsewhere.
[13:47] <fabio> daftykins, yep :)
[13:47] <clobrano> lvleph: is there any way to add vid:pid instead of replacing them?
[13:47] <daftykins> doesn't sound particularly ubuntu specific, lvleph - surely it'd work if it's designed to... why would the IDs be wrong?
[13:47] <dorea> How to: http://qr.ae/RbCtvx
[13:48] <daftykins> dorea: how to what? what is this link?
[13:48] <OerHeks> dorea, howto what? not clicking that url
[13:48] <dorea> Oops, wrong channel! bye.
[13:48] <lvleph> daftykins I bought a generic controller, so...
[13:48] <OerHeks> seems like malware
[13:48] <daftykins> lvleph: and you're trying to use a PS3 driver? o0
[13:48] <lvleph> yes
[13:48] <daftykins> what...
[13:49] <lvleph> fabio https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guide_to_X11/Starting_Sessions
[13:49] <dorea> OerHeks:: huh, malware, it's short link for https://www.quora.com/Studies-and-Studying/What-are-the-most-effective-methods-for-studying
[13:49] <dorea> I sent it here wrong
[13:50] <lvleph> daftykins: at some point the controller showed up correctly, and now doesn't
[13:50] <OerHeks> dorea, oke, i was just cautious, lot of spammers use thos short url services
[13:50] <lvleph> daftykins: I can use the USB but not the bluetooth because of the vendor id
[13:55] <fabio> how do i connect to a wifi network on cli?
[13:55] <fabio> most easy way
[13:57] <OerHeks> nmcli d wifi connect <WiFiSSID> password <WiFiPassword> iface <wlan0>
[13:57] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[14:03] <fabio> how do i install nmtui on 14.04 lts?
[14:04] <fabio> *nmtui is a network manager cli
[14:04] <daftykins> fabio: use the one OerHeks told you about above
[14:05] <fabio> daftykins, but nmtui is alot more use friendly
[14:06] <daftykins> fabio: user friendly is not trying to use a wireless network via CLI
[14:07] <fabio> nmcli d wifi connect <WiFiSSID> password <WiFiPassword> iface <wlan0>
[14:07] <fabio> i will stick with that then
[14:12] <chinesesausage> good morning!
[14:12] <chinesesausage>  maybe this question has been answered before. Does anybody know how to make MATE's mintmenu faster the first you click it? I have not found an ideal answer to this in forums. Thanks in advance!
[14:12] <OerHeks> mint faster ..
[14:13] <OerHeks> better ask in the mint channel, chinesesausage
[14:13] <OerHeks> !mint
[14:14] <chinesesausage> well, it is the one same one that comes included in MATE
[14:14] <chinesesausage> called Advance MATE menu
[14:14] <chinesesausage> in fact it is Ubuntu with vanilla MATE installed
[14:14] <chinesesausage> as DE
[14:15] <chinesesausage> thanks anyway
[14:16] <Intel> Is there any new way of installing League of Legends on Ubuntu that works, like a simple installation solution instead of using PlayOnLinux?
[14:16] <OerHeks> chinesesausage, ok, i have no mate but find this page usefull https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/mint-mate-first#TOC-Speed-up-your-Mate
[14:17] <OerHeks> and https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/2597
[14:17] <chinesesausage> I'll try both OerHeks. Thanks
[14:18] <chinesesausage> by the way, I use an Ubuntu derivative called Peach OSI. Is this the right forum for asking questions like these?
[14:19] <OerHeks> chinesesausage, sorry, last url was wrong, this arch page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MATE#Panel_speed_settings
[14:20] <wildmob> Good afternoon, I'm looking to swap my network server os from on drive to another, is there an easy way to just copy the whole drive to save reinstalling?
[14:20] <OerHeks> you can use those manual settings, or install dconf > sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[14:21] <chinesesausage> I have dconf installed
[14:21] <OpenSorce> wildmob, most HDD manufacturers have software to do that. What kind of drives?
[14:21] <chinesesausage> the menu speed is ok once I have clicked it once, but at the very beginning it is slow
[14:21] <OerHeks> wildmob, clonezilla is in the repos, or use dd on comandline
[14:21] <wildmob> Going from a Samsung spinpoint to a sandisk ssd
[14:22] <OerHeks> chinesesausage, i think that in the beginning there are still processes loading.
[14:22] <chinesesausage> I lowered the hover delay to see if that helps a bit
[14:23] <linocisco> hi all
[14:23] <OpenSorce> wildmob, my last Western Digital drive swap I used their software and copied close to a tb in under an hour.
[14:23] <linocisco> I have one forum which banned my country's IP, how to establish VPN to use it?
[14:24] <chinesesausage> well, it happens no matter how many minutes the OS in online. I am reading the Arch wiki you gave
[14:24] <mcphail> linocisco: ask elsewhere, please. this is Ubuntu support
[14:25] <linocisco> mcphail, I am using ubuntu 14.04 64bit LTS
[14:25] <linocisco> mcphail, I dont know how to do this on my ubuntu. and if somebody were me in my situation, I would like to know how you would do?
[14:26] <wildmob> Opensorce, the sandisk software is windows/Mac only... Lol
[14:27] <mcphail> linocisco: that's as maybe, but finding a VPN provider to get round a network block is not an Ubuntu issue. If you have a specific problem with a VPN service on Ubunut, please ask here
[14:27] <freakynl> Hi, how does one restart networking on 14.04? /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't work (modified /etc/network/interfaces). Rebooting does btw
[14:28] <EriC^^> freakynl: try sudo service network-manager restart
[14:28] <wildmob> I'll use clonezilla, will that copy three boot sector/grub as well?
[14:29] <freakynl> EriC^^: maybe I should state I'm root and it's server :)
[14:29] <EriC^^> server has network-manager too
[14:29] <daftykins> freakynl: it hasn't worked properly for years in my experience, either take interfaces down and up again or do a proper restart in my opinion.
[14:29] <freakynl> only thing that starts with n  is networking in /etc/init.d/
[14:30] <EriC^^> wildmob: yeah it will, but you might need to chroot and update-initramfs for it to work on a different hardware machine, or if you're using uefi you might need to add the uefi entry to the efibootmgr before it boots
[14:30] <daftykins> yes, it did used to be service networking restart / sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:30] <daftykins> definitely unreliable though in my experience
[14:30] <EriC^^> freakynl: try service network-manager restart ( it won't tab complete btw )
[14:31] <chinesesausage> thank you very much OerHeks, I'll try what the Arch wiki says
[14:32] <chinesesausage> brb
[14:35] <freakynl> EriC^^: unrecognized service
[14:36] <daftykins> see what i said :P
[14:40] <alexandru> hi
[14:44] <fabio> how to disable gnome to start?
[14:45] <alexandru> how to enable download in linuxdc++
[14:46] <blindsite> I'm having trouble watching comercial dvds on ubuntu.   I can't seem to install libdvdcss or libdvdcss2, or the new libdvd-pkg.    They all seem to be missing from the repositories or something.   A little help please.
[14:46] <bazhang> !info linuxdc++
[14:48] <blindsite> is anyone there?
[14:49] <ioria> blindsite, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?  if es, could be a problen of region-set
[14:49] <ioria> *yes
[14:50] <alexandru> ubottu what should i do with that info
[14:50] <fabio> I had installed gnome-session-fallback and i want to stop to run it on startup
[14:50] <fabio> how do i do it???
[14:50] <blindsite> @ioria yep installed those too.   And maybe but not sure how I'd change that.   Aren't most dvds set to no region?
[14:51] <ioria> blindsite, did you run   sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ?
[14:51] <blindsite> @ioria aye I did, and I restarted after just for good measure no dice.
[14:52] <ioria> !info regionset
[14:52] <alexandru> how to enable download in linuxdc++
[14:53] <ioria> blindsite, can you play any other dvd ?
[14:53] <blindsite> hmm let me check
[14:53] <bazhang> alexandru, read the manpage or help yet
[14:54] <alexandru> read that already bazhang
[14:54] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/utopic/man1/linuxdcpp.1.html
[14:55] <bazhang> alexandru, that says quite clearly ^
[14:55] <blindsite> oh shit now i have a hardware problem
[14:56] <blindsite> the dvd is now stuck in the dvd drive
[14:56] <ioria> blindsite, bad day , hu ?
[14:56] <blindsite> it fell out of the tray while i was ejecting it.  Yeah... bad morning anyway
[14:57] <ioria> blindsite, there's a little hole.... you can stick a clip in it and take out the dvd
[14:58] <daftykins> blindsite: try and keep the language friendly please ;)
[15:00] <momomo> I have an Nvidia optimus 765M graphics card and when I enable Nvidia drivers in addtional drivers and reboot ... the graphcis won't start
[15:01] <momomo> i have tried to install the 352.63 and 340.96 drivers ... both fail
[15:01] <momomo> the fallback is nouvauue display driver which has terrible performance in chrome at least
[15:02] <momomo> why won't it start ? i am using gnome and gdm ..
[15:03] <blindsite> it's a tray kind of dvd drive
[15:03] <blindsite> not the slot version
[15:03] <ioria> blindsite, i got it once ....
[15:03] <blindsite> so i can get it open but the dvd is stuck up inside the machine,  it fell off the spindle while still inside the machine
[15:04] <blindsite> oh?  How did you get it?
[15:04] <Bashing-om> momomo: Nvidia recommends the 352 version , I have seen advisements that sometimes there are problems with this driver . Have you tried the 346 (stable) version driver ?
[15:04] <momomo> Bashing-om, i can't select the 346 drivers from additional drivers
[15:04] <momomo> is bumblebee something that I should be looking into ?
[15:05] <momomo> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bumblebee#Usage
[15:05] <Bashing-om> momomo: Ouch ! What release are you running ?
[15:05] <momomo> 15.10
[15:06] <daftykins> momomo: no. bumblebee is the old and no longer relevant way
[15:06] <blindsite> @ioria sorry if I'm a wee bit frustrated here.   I dont want to unscrew the whole drive.
[15:06] <blindsite> and all that kind of thing.
[15:06] <momomo> daftykins, should i be doing something in bios /
[15:06] <momomo> ?
[15:06] <daftykins> you should check what control you have, if any, in the BIOS - yes
[15:06] <daftykins> every implementation tends to differ :)
[15:06] <ioria> blindsite, i see...
[15:07] <momomo> here is the xorg.conf that was used when i turned on nvidia
[15:07] <momomo> http://hastebin.com/haziyumere.cmake
[15:07] <Bashing-om> momomo: Though BombleBee has been superceeded by nvidia-prime, some advise they get better results from BumbleBee . But, not generally advised .
[15:07] <blindsite> god what i wouldn't do for some tweezers
[15:07] <momomo> does that look ok ?
[15:08] <daftykins> momomo: no that's 100% wrong, you shouldn't use a xorg.conf at all with optimus
[15:08] <momomo> daftykins, but somebody generated that
[15:08] <daftykins> that's probably where you were going wrong
[15:08] <momomo> i have no clue how to edit that
[15:08] <daftykins> don't, just rename it to xorg.conf.old
[15:08] <Gamer-Pro> DOWNLOAD THIS AMAZING GAME FOR WINDOWS http://www.indiedb.com/games/spaceshooter-x1/downloads/spaceshooter-x1-update-for-windows
[15:09] <momomo> daftykins, i tried removing it and backing it up
[15:09] <bazhang> Gamer-Pro, no spam here
[15:09] <momomo> it will just be regeneated
[15:09] <momomo> so I probably have to edit it
[15:09] <daftykins> momomo: no they don't get automatically created.
[15:09] <OerHeks> Gamer-Pro, gnome windows, or kde windows?
[15:09] <momomo> daftykins, with nvidia drivers they were, when i ran sudo service gdm restart
[15:09] <daftykins> momomo: no that wouldn't create it
[15:10] <momomo> daftykins, something were .. i did that 5 minutes ago
[15:10] <momomo> i remove xorg.conf and then it was back again
[15:10] <daftykins> so you run gnome3?
[15:10] <momomo> daftykins, yes
[15:10] <momomo> should I be using lightdm ? i had other issues last time i tried it
[15:10] <daftykins> nvidia/optimus tends to require lightdm i used to think
[15:11] <daftykins> however in my experience the only thing that creates xorg.conf is "nvidia-xconfig" being run.
[15:11] <momomo> maybe prime is running it
[15:11] <momomo> when it is missing
[15:12] <momomo> if i want to try lightdm .. i install it and then install nvidia ... dpk reconfigure xsometing ?
[15:12] <ioria> blindsite, i decline every responsibility  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmGWIjtOsvA
[15:12] <daftykins> momomo: can't help you there, never touched gnome3 setups.
[15:13] <daftykins> momomo: thing about you claiming chrome runs poorly with nouveau, is it should be on the intel graphics whilst proprietary isn't in use
[15:13] <LJSeinfeld> Ugh... somehow I lost access to the GUI on my remote machine... (connecting via nomachine)  -- after I added a command to my .profile (trying to get a VM to start at login).... on Lubuntu 14.04
[15:14] <fabio__> how will I create xorg.conf and use it in ubuntu 15.10? gpu-manager or something like that seems to overwrite it with a minimal one.
[15:14] <momomo> daftykins, ook .. i have that on .. i turned it on because there was some logout issue .. kept getting some intel error x0x2323
[15:14] <momomo> something
[15:14] <momomo> which disappeared when i used properietary
[15:15] <daftykins> that's useless to me without specifics
[15:15] <LJSeinfeld> I've mucked around trying to get things to straighten out... and now nomachine shows me this when I login https://www.dropbox.com/s/c47eici3732zbv9/Screenshot%202015-12-03%2009.15.10.png?dl=0
[15:15] <LJSeinfeld> if I enter my password there, nothing happens... I get a flicker and the dialog comes back...
[15:16] <daftykins> LJSeinfeld: are you absolutely desperate to get back some open application, or could you just kill X?
[15:17] <srh4t3> Hi all, can anyone help me with some display settings?
[15:17] <LJSeinfeld> I just really want to get the gui back without having to do a reinstall as I'd need to move a lot of data and it would take hours..
[15:17] <daftykins> LJSeinfeld: not reinstall, you said you had SSH access... so restart the X session from there then try again, no?
[15:17] <Erik__> hello, i just joined the ubuntu community and i'd like to set up my wiki page. can some one help please?
[15:17] <daftykins> srh4t3: just ask the actual question and someone will reply if they can assist
[15:18] <srh4t3> Never mind, found it. All I wanted to do was to disable my laptops internal display, can do it in Ubuntu, but the hard keys on the HP still work
[15:19] <LJSeinfeld> daftykins: I've tried a bunch of stuff including startx... but I can't seem to get anything to work.  I'm kinda clueless (but learning) as to what X does, and the associated stuff from there...
[15:19] <daftykins> Erik__: this is only the OS support channel really; try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[15:19] <LJSeinfeld> I do have shell access to the machine
[15:19] <Erik__> k thanks
[15:19] <daftykins> LJSeinfeld: ah... startx could've rendered your /home files useless with bad permissions. SSH in and "ls -al ~/" to check no files are owned by root instead of you
[15:20] <LJSeinfeld> I've been googling / reading until my eyes went buggy :/
[15:20] <LJSeinfeld> lemme see
[15:22] <LJSeinfeld> daftykins:  here's what I got
[15:22] <LJSeinfeld> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13646208/
[15:23] <daftykins> heh, yeah that doesn't look good - LJSeinfeld run "sudo chown -R dave:dave /home/dave/"
[15:23] <daftykins> then restart X via your chosen greeter and try logging in again
[15:24] <fabio__> is there a way to add xorg.conf options in ubuntu 15.10 wily?
[15:24] <daftykins> yes via files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[15:24] <fabio__> cool
[15:25] <Guest68504> do we have an expert?
[15:25] <LJSeinfeld> daftykins --thanks.. Not sure how to restart X via chosen greeter.. (or what a greeter is... )  it would be the default for Lubuntu I guess, as I haven't (knowingly) changed anything...
[15:25] <Guest68504> i have a usb problem/
[15:25] <daftykins> Guest68504: ask the actual question and someone will reply if they can help
[15:25] <Guest68504> the usb drive ....i have to connect it twice to get it mounted
[15:25] <daftykins> LJSeinfeld: e.g. "sudo service lightdm restart" however looks like you have LXDE there so i don't know what yours would be, you can check if it is with "ps -ef | grep light"
[15:26] <Guest68504> i did dmesg
[15:27] <LJSeinfeld> I see lightdm in there.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13646297/
[15:27] <daftykins> LJSeinfeld: yeah run the above then
[15:27] <daftykins> and then try connecting in again
[15:27] <darei1>  why my server not oline
[15:28] <LJSeinfeld> did that -- and I can see stuff :D
[15:28] <LJSeinfeld> which is _awesome_  --THanks!
[15:28] <daftykins> darei1: what kind of server? VPS? how should we know?
[15:28] <darei1> look my ip
[15:29] <darei1>  It's my server
[15:29] <Guest68504> first time i get this error [21083.304751] usb 2-1.4: device descriptor read/8, error -110
[15:29] <Guest68504> second time it mounts properly
[15:29] <Guest68504> i dont get it?
[15:29] <daftykins> darei1: sorry but your english is not clear enough to have a clue what you are asking.
[15:29] <Guest68504> always mounts on second insert
[15:30] <Guest68504> dafty!!!!
[15:30] <daftykins> yes i see you.
[15:30] <daftykins> however i'm suddenly less inclined to help since you just displayed that impatience
[15:31] <Guest68504> oh no, then who will help my poor soul
[15:31] <daftykins> Guest68504: so if you can calm down... what kind of device is this? laptop/desktop? running which ubuntu?
[15:32] <Guest68504> desktop running ubuntu
[15:32] <daftykins> ...which... give me a version number
[15:32] <Guest68504> the usb is sony myvault usb 3.0
[15:32] <Guest68504> 14.04.3
[15:32] <Guest68504> lts
[15:33] <daftykins> what's your current kernel? run "uname -r" in the terminal
[15:33] <Guest68504> 3.19.0-25-generic
[15:33] <darei1> kao  it dead
[15:33] <Guest68504> it does this in all os
[15:33] <daftykins> Guest68504: ok well that's out of date, so you'll need to update your system before we can go any further
[15:33] <LJSeinfeld> daftykins -- I'm pretty sure the way I borked my system was by trying to start a VM from a script fired by my .profile  --I figured I'd throw a "> /dev/null 2>&1 &" at the end of the command I was running in the script... any idea why that wold cause this to happen?
[15:33] <Guest68504> not just ubuntu
[15:33] <daftykins> Guest68504: like what other?
[15:33] <Guest68504> windows 7
[15:34] <daftykins> is it a branded computer? e.g. Dell?
[15:34] <Guest68504> mounts on second insert
[15:34] <Guest68504> no
[15:35] <Guest68504> the laptop is branded
[15:35] <Guest68504> earlier this didnt happen
[15:35] <LJSeinfeld> daftykins the script basically ran "/usr/bin/vboxmanage startvm Zoidberg" and then I added the > /dev/null stuff to the tail of the command.. when I was poking around last night I saw virtualbox mentioned in ~/.xsession-errors
[15:36] <daftykins> LJSeinfeld: i can't imagine any connection, but don't have a whole lot of experience with virtualbox atop Linux
[15:36] <Guest68504> did i do something wrong like overwrite mbr or partition table many times?. last i formatted it as fat32 with long format, writing zero inseaf of quick format
[15:37] <Guest68504> then i dd zero all over to be sure
[15:37] <Guest68504> what is this device descriptor that it cribs out?
[15:37] <LJSeinfeld> daftykins I thought I was being fairly harmless... but the problem did happen directly after I booted and the script ran... no idea
[15:38] <daftykins> Guest68504: did you assemble this system?
[15:38] <LJSeinfeld> either way -- Thanks again for your help :D  you just saved me hours of waiting...
[15:38] <Guest68504> i changed the motherboard thats all
[15:38] <Guest68504> but the laptop with win 7, it does same on it too
[15:38] <Guest68504> that is branded not assembled
[15:38] <daftykins> Guest68504: so you wait until now to mention it happens on more than one system?
[15:39] <Guest68504> no i told you it did same on windows 7 too
[15:39] <daftykins> that's the same physical PC though, now you're saying a laptop as well as this desktop
[15:40] <sorin-mihai> i just installed a 15.10 maas server from the ISO and i use it, I can login and that's it. wasn't it supposed to have some documentation?
[15:40] <daftykins> *unless* you meant you're running ubuntu desktop on a laptop, which isn't what you said
[15:40] <EriC^^> sorin-mihai: documentation? what are you trying to do?
[15:40] <Demiurge> hi, where do i find lxc experts? :)
[15:40] <daftykins> !alis | Demiurge
[15:40] <Guest68504> no, ubuntu is on desktop and win7 is on laptop
[15:40] <sorin-mihai> EriC^^, i want to install the darn thing and us it to provisoon some 20 servers...
[15:40] <Demiurge> sweet
[15:40] <reber> hi all
[15:40] <EriC^^> sorin-mihai: you can check for commands using "apropos <description or command>" and also type "man <command>" to read the manual
[15:41] <EriC^^> sorin-mihai: oh, so you haven't installed it yet, it just booted to a login?
[15:41] <sorin-mihai> yeah...
[15:41] <EriC^^> sorin-mihai: the server doesn't have a live session i think, it should just boot to the installer..
[15:42] <daftykins> Guest68504: sounds more like a quirk of the drive then, since it happens on multiple systems. dd zero it, then create a new file system and test.
[15:42] <sorin-mihai> the install is finished. logged in and also tried the login on the web ui. but that,s it
[15:42] <EriC^^> sorin-mihai: that's odd, did you checksum the iso for starters?
[15:42] <EriC^^> sorin-mihai: oh, so it did install
[15:42] <sorin-mihai> can't add controller, nodes, images, nothing
[15:42] <EriC^^> well, that's a server, it doesn't come with any gui unless you install a desktop environment
[15:43] <Guest68504> daftykins, how to fix it then?
[15:43] <EriC^^> sorin-mihai: ok, /join #ubuntu-server
[15:43] <Guest68504> cos it works properly on second mount so mustnt be physical error?
[15:43] <daftykins> Guest68504: what did i just say?
[15:44] <Guest68504> i did that dafty, i long formatted it, dded zero to it several times
[15:44] <Guest68504> only after that i come here
[15:44] <daftykins> do it again, with a different file system.
[15:44] <daftykins> only the first 1MB really needs a zero for testing
[15:45] <Guest68504> i tried with ntfs and fat32 about 4 times
[15:45] <compdoc> Guest68504, hard drive problems?
[15:45] <Guest68504> compdoc, usb drive. sony microvault usb 3.0
[15:45] <compdoc> ah
[15:45] <Guest68504> compdoc, mounts on second insert only
[15:46] <daftykins> Guest68504: i guess there's no help then :)
[15:46] <Guest68504> compdoc, i even went on the sony website and downloaded their format software and formatted the drive using it
[15:47] <daftykins> the fact it happens cross-OS suggests it is not an ubuntu problem
[15:47] <Guest68504> compdoc, first time i insert it, it says this [21159.702474] usb 2-1.4: device descriptor read/8, error -110, i dont know what device descriptor means
[15:47] <daftykins> the data that describes the device :)
[15:47] <Guest68504> it started happening after i inserted the usb on ubuntu
[15:47] <compdoc> Guest68504, try it on another PC?
[15:47] <daftykins> i think that's rubbish
[15:48] <Guest68504> ubuntu did something to it. on windows it was working properly
[15:48] <daftykins> compdoc: i was eventually told it does the same on win7 on another computer
[15:48] <compdoc> Guest68504, doubt its anything to do with ubuntu. stuff happens
[15:48] <daftykins> ^
[15:48] <daftykins> i think you're just trying to attribute blame to Ubuntu to make it our problem to help with
[15:48] <daftykins> call Sony and ask for a replacement
[15:48] <Guest68504> ha. now thats rubbish
[15:49] <Guest68504> anyway
[15:49] <Guest68504> thanks
[15:49] <Guest42901> can someone help me
[15:49] <Guest42901> im getting this error maybe you need to install the perl or python plugin
[15:49] <Guest42901> on hexchat and dont know to fix
[15:49] <daftykins> "this error" ?
[15:49] <Guest42901> maybe you need to install the perl or python plugin
[15:50] <compdoc> daftykins, for windows, theres a nice formatter that also recovers the correct space if its missing:  SDFormatter. My version is v4.0
[15:50] <daftykins> compdoc: that's of no relevance to me
[15:50] <compdoc> was I talking to you?
[15:50] <daftykins> yes, 'cause you used my nickname
[15:50] <daftykins> ...
[15:50] <Guest42901> its look like that python or perl inst install on ubuntu
[15:51] <lucas__> can someone help me with that python thing?
[15:52] <Pici> lucas__: "that python thing"?
[15:52] <lucas__> im getting a error with hexchat
[15:52] <lucas__> this one: maybe you need to install the perl or python plugin
[15:52] <lucas__> after trying to load a script
[15:52]  * Icebit help
[15:52] <daftykins> ah now you say it's a script, check what the script requires.
[15:52] <daftykins> Icedream: is there a question?
[15:53] <Icedream> tab completion
[15:53] <daftykins> Icedream: nope that doesn't have a "?" :)
[15:53] <lucas__> what i know that scripts needs to run its only a hexchat client
[15:53]  * Icedream points daftykins to Icebit
[15:53] <Icedream> that's the guy you asked
[15:53] <Icedream> not me
[15:54] <Pici> lucas__: you'd probably get better help by asking in #hexchat
[15:54] <daftykins> Icedream: oof, my apologies
[15:54] <daftykins> slow eyes today
[15:54] <lucas__> oh ok
[15:54] <lucas__> i gonna join
[15:54] <daftykins> Icebit: yes? what are you after? :)
[16:02] <mastershake> hey guys
[16:02] <daftykins> hi
[16:02] <mastershake> my xubunutu box is acting strange
[16:03] <daftykins> can you be more specific?
[16:03] <mastershake> yeah, things keep crashing, upon booting to desktop im getting system error popups,
[16:04] <mastershake> it doesn't seem to handle running for a extended period of time either
[16:04] <mastershake> especially when i virtualize
[16:05] <mastershake> my prior ubunutu experiences have been more solid than this, is this normal behavior or am i just complaining? and if not, what are some best practices i can implement into my daily ubuntu activity?
[16:05] <daftykins> mastershake: not even vaguely normal, i would be running memtest personally
[16:05] <daftykins> are you typing from it right now?
[16:05] <mastershake> yes i am on the box right now
[16:06] <daftykins> mastershake: do you have an SSD or an HDD?
[16:06] <mastershake> HDD
[16:06] <daftykins> can you run "sudo apt update && sudo apt install pastebinit smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[16:07] <mastershake> sure, do you mind if i ask questions as we go along? i'd much rather retain data then just throw commands at a system not knowing what they do.
[16:07] <daftykins> sure
[16:08] <snowkidind> any pianobar users here?
[16:08] <daftykins> right there you're install a hard disk smart utility plus a command pastebin program, querying the disk 'sda' for its' SMART health report and uploading it to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:08] <daftykins> *installing
[16:08] <mastershake> okay the command ran, all it seems to have done was just apt update
[16:08] <aldanon> anyone able to help out with a permissions issue?
[16:09] <daftykins> mastershake: no errors? should've continued on to installing the two packages.
[16:09] <daftykins> aldanon: just ask
[16:09] <daftykins> (ideally on one line)
[16:09] <daftykins> back in 5
[16:10] <mastershake> daftykins, yes, there are errors, a "failed to fetch" a specific PPA and then E:some index files failed to download
[16:10] <metroins> Does anybody know a way to get the weather farhenheit degrees to show in the top right status bar?
[16:10] <aldanon> I've got an ubuntu server with lamp and wordpress installed - accessing the page is working fine but I get asked for login credentials if i try to install a theme or update a plugin
[16:10] <aldanon> i tried sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www but still no luck
[16:11] <aldanon> no actual domain here, just working locally
[16:11] <aldanon> clearly it's a permissions issue, I just can't figure out how to fix it
[16:11] <metroins> nevermind I figured it out
[16:12] <mastershake> daftykins, i also got this error "W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A777609328949509"
[16:13] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: those are wordpress admin account credentials I believe , they are separate, maybe a default is used or it asked you to create them when WP was installing?
[16:13] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: no clue how the WP package works on ubuntu, but that prompt is a WP account
[16:13] <daftykins> mastershake: ok, ignore that for now - repeat the command from after the first &&
[16:14] <aldanon> kingsqueak: actually it's asking for ftp, ftps (ssl) or ssh2
[16:14] <aldanon> which it won't normally do if permissions are setup properly
[16:15] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: I'm confused, you are in the WP console, clicking on modules to install and you get the prompt...oh maybe the repository for the plugins is what it's asking for?
[16:15] <mastershake> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13647087/
[16:15] <fabio> its possible to set up a static ip with nmcli ?
[16:16] <Kingsqueak> I've always used hosted WP installs, maybe there is a config param for the repo used, that's likely what that is about then
[16:16] <aldanon> i'm putting in localhost/wordpress into a browser to access the GUI for wordpress
[16:16] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: right, but where is WP pointed to pick up the modules to install
[16:16] <daftykins> mastershake: ouch, your disk has failed and needs to be replaced - i'd backup your data ASAP and get a new
[16:16] <mastershake> daftykins, that report is quite daunting to say the least lol
[16:16] <mastershake> FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[16:16] <aldanon> default from the web
[16:17] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: almost sounds like it is trying to point somewhere externally that you don't have loging rights to
[16:17] <daftykins> mastershake: check line 73
[16:17] <daftykins> explains all your issues
[16:17] <motaka2> TJ-: WHy do you think I cant install even a clean 14.04 with DVD or USB , I lways get ???? error
[16:17] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: or...it's pointed back at itself instead of trying to go to the web
[16:18] <aldanon> kingsquak: http://www.jasong-designs.com/2012/01/14/ubuntu-linux-permissions-and-a-local-wordpress-install/
[16:18] <aldanon> there's a ton of articles about this
[16:18] <aldanon> none of which have helped so far lol
[16:18] <mastershake> daftykins, how does this happen?
[16:18] <motaka2> WHy do you think I cant install even a clean 14.04 with DVD or USB , I lways get ???? error
[16:19] <daftykins> mastershake: they don't make them like they used to, however drops (for laptops) or abuse can also result (not saying you did, they are just common causes)
[16:19] <mastershake> well its about time i got an SSD anyway
[16:19] <mastershake> well i did drop it actually
[16:19] <daftykins> mastershake: yes :) they are amazing
[16:19] <aldanon> i'm suppose to have this ready for work by tomorrow, i'm getting worried
[16:19] <daftykins> ah there you go then
[16:19] <mastershake> son of a...... dammit!
[16:19] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: ah k, so you walked through what that article said?
[16:20] <mastershake> ughhhh i dont have the money for this right now being the holidays and all =(
[16:20] <mastershake> daftykins, what are the repercussions of running this box still?
[16:20] <mastershake> should i expect a complete and total meltdown soon?
[16:20] <daftykins> mastershake: it could continue to spiral to the point of catastrophic data loss.
[16:21] <motaka2> WHy do you think I cant install even a clean 14.04 with DVD or USB , I lways get ???? error
[16:21] <daftykins> motaka2: do i understand correctly that you have taken approximately 2 weeks to try and install ubuntu, at this point?
[16:22] <mastershake> 2 weeks? damn
[16:22] <motaka2> daftykins: Yes you do
[16:23] <daftykins> motaka2: now, in the past you used to seek help from us when you were actually running another distro... so is there anything you would like to be honest about before anyone attempts to help you again?
[16:24] <motaka2> daftykins: We tried so much with TJ-  and ioria to fix 12.04 but we were not successful so TJ- asked me to install a clean 14.04 ubuntu
[16:24] <mastershake> daftykins, sorry to drag this on, i can see you're very busy... but does my processor and memory look alright from that report?
[16:24] <aldanon> kingsqueak: what would be the command to cover every file/folder in a directory?  like if i sudo chown -R www-data /var/www/html
[16:24] <daftykins> motaka2: right, but what about what i asked?
[16:25] <aldanon> and i want everything else in the directory as well?
[16:25] <daftykins> mastershake: none of your system spec was shared within the disk status i had you share
[16:25] <motaka2> daftykins: I thought I have answered it. Can you please rephrase your question in simple english ?
[16:26] <daftykins> motaka2: it was in simple english. are you lying to us about using ubuntu again, like in the past?
[16:26] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: that should do it from html/ down
[16:26] <motaka2> daftykins: When and how I lied to you ?
[16:27] <daftykins> motaka2: you have often sought help in here whilst using something other than ubuntu.
[16:27] <daftykins> motaka2: so you come to us claiming to have been installing ubuntu 14.04... but have you really?
[16:27] <aldanon> kingsqueak: here's a better example - http://wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/19649/wordpress-on-localhost-lamp-doesnt-let-me-install-plugins
[16:27] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: another dumb question, so the directories are 755 and files are 644?
[16:28] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: just double check the files are readable
[16:28] <aldanon> kingsqeak: i've tried various 755, 777, 644 etc
[16:29] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: what do the WP logs tell you when you try to install the modules?
[16:29] <motaka2> daftykins: :( Are you ok ?
[16:29] <daftykins> motaka2: i'm being deadly serious and asking you a question to help with your support query... have you been trying to install from an *UBUNTU* 14.04 desktop ISO?
[16:29] <aldanon> Kingsqueak: it takes me to a page asking for ftp, ftps or ssh2
[16:30] <frenda> How can I split a cell of a table in libreoffice_writer 5?
[16:30] <aldanon> which like i said when permissions are right it shouldn't do that
[16:30] <aldanon> check that last article i linked to
[16:30] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: no I mean the system logs, not sure where they are /var/log/ likely
[16:30] <motaka2> daftykins: Yes I am doing it right now and I get a dialog box with ????? in it in timezone selection page
[16:30] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: when you try and get the error page, what do the logs say?  They may indicate what is causing it
[16:31] <aldanon> Kingsqueak: there's a lot of log files in there, no idea which one I'd need
[16:32] <daftykins> motaka2: are you using a USB flash drive which you prepared with ubuntu 14.04.3 desktop 64-bit?
[16:32] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: you follow the steps in that last link you showed me?
[16:32] <motaka2> daftykins: Yes but I use the 32bit version
[16:32] <daftykins> why?
[16:32] <aldanon> well the first one I linked wasn't actually a great example, the second one is
[16:33] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: yeah the second one
[16:33] <motaka2> daftykins: This is the full file name   ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[16:33] <aldanon> yeah i tried changing the wp-config file
[16:34] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: and just checking, you restarted it after the change too right?
[16:34] <daftykins> aldanon + Kingsqueak sorry to tread on toes, but have you confirmed apache executes as the user you think it does - and that the file permissions within the relevant %wordpress_root%/wp-content/themes ../plugins etc. folders are correct for that user?
[16:34] <motaka2> daftykins: the size of the file is 0.99 GB I burned it on FLASH using a special program offered by ubuntu
[16:34] <Kingsqueak> daftykins: no prob, I'm actually doing other things if you want to dive deeper with him be my guest
[16:34] <daftykins> motaka2: why 32-bit?
[16:34] <motaka2> daftykins: Using the live DVD I get the same dialog box
[16:34] <daftykins> Kingsqueak: will do :)
[16:35] <krcevina> Is anyone familiar with the DMA Setup Auto-Activate Optimization flag for SATA driver?
[16:35] <motaka2> daftykins: cause I have 3GB of RAM
[16:35] <daftykins> aldanon: was it your intention to have wordpress at /wordpress/ and not in the root?
[16:35] <aldanon> daftykins: how would i confirm that?
[16:35] <daftykins> motaka2: ok - and did you MD5 hash your download?
[16:35] <OerHeks> motaka2, if that machine is UEFI, then 32 bit does not work well
[16:36] <aldanon> daftykins: just following some directions i found here - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-14-04
[16:36] <motaka2> daftykins: No I didnt
[16:36] <daftykins> aldanon: right but what do you want, domain.com = wordpress, or domain.com/wordpress = wordpress? :)
[16:36] <daftykins> !md5 | motaka2 then check it out :)
[16:36] <motaka2> OerHeks: What is UEFI ?
[16:36] <aldanon> daftykins: doesn't matter honestly, if it works i'm happy
[16:37] <aldanon> daftykins: and doesn't require me to start over lol
[16:37] <daftykins> aldanon: ok, i've a few commands to throw your way then - first of all can you install "pastebinit" ?
[16:37] <OerHeks> !uefi
[16:37] <mastershake> motaka2, UEFI is firmware designed to replace the BIOS
[16:37] <aldanon> that in the repos i take it?
[16:38] <daftykins> aldanon: yep, sudo apt install pastebinit
[16:38] <daftykins> aldanon: is this a physical box you own or a VPS or similar?
[16:38] <aldanon> ubuntu is in virtual box, host is os x
[16:38] <daftykins> ok
[16:39] <motaka2> mastershake: OerHeks my system is using a BIOS, it is six/seven year old system
[16:40] <aldanon> pastebinit installed fine
[16:40] <daftykins> aldanon: ok; "ps -ef | grep apache | pastebinit" then paste the link to me please
[16:41] <aldanon> daftykins: this is for by job btw, it'll never have a real domain, it'll always be local
[16:41] <daftykins> aldanon: np
[16:42] <daftykins> you've probably already seen how WP loves to have a domain to run with, however
[16:42] <aldanon> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13647542/
[16:43] <aldanon> daftykins: afaik and according to everything i've read www-data is what is suppose to have access to make changes from a browser
[16:43] <Kingsqueak> FWIW WP is so cheap to just use a hosted service and has so many frequent patches and holes that when my last gig's marketing department wanted WP running, I got them to use a hosting provider for it.
[16:44] <daftykins> aldanon: yep, though in Linux land, seeing is believing :D
[16:44] <daftykins> aldanon: so your document root is /var/www/html/ and wordpress is inside that, yes? or did you make it /var/www/ ? (/var/www/html is the default for 14.04)
[16:45] <aldanon> daftykins: var/www/html
[16:45] <aldanon> daftykins: wordpress lives there
[16:45] <daftykins> aldanon: cool - "ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/ | pastebinit" please
[16:45] <motaka2> no help then ?
[16:46] <daftykins> motaka2: did you hash your downloaded ISO yet?
[16:46] <aldanon> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13647616/
[16:47] <motaka2> daftykins: No, should I ?
[16:47] <daftykins> motaka2: i did tell you to, why do you think i asked if you'd done it?
[16:48] <motaka2> daftykins: I though you wanted to say if I have done that, that was wrong and I should use a none hashed verion
[16:48] <daftykins> aldanon: ok, yep... that'll be problematic. "sudo chown -R www-data: /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content"
[16:49] <daftykins> motaka2: then you didn't read the link or what the bot said; so please do so now.
[16:49] <OerHeks> motaka2, funny, you are asking for help, and accept no suggestion, checking the iso is the 1st thing to do if it keeps failing.
[16:50] <aboudea> السلام عليكم
[16:50] <aldanon> daftykins: should i restart apache after that? still no luck after running that command and trying to update a plugin
[16:50] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: re-run the last pastebinit he had you run
[16:50] <OerHeks> motaka2, or elaborate what error, without information there is no way to help you
[16:51] <daftykins> aldanon: ^ as Kingsqueak suggests, we must check the permissions took
[16:51] <motaka2> OerHeks: The error is just a a dialog with ?????
[16:51] <aldanon> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13647708/
[16:51] <daftykins> motaka2: we know. we have told you what to do, please help US by helping yourself
[16:51] <r0r0n04> 3eh 3eh 3ehhhhhh
[16:51] <kameleonaa> ghjghg jgjhg hg
[16:52] <Na3iL> r0r0n04, what?
[16:52] <kameleonaa> thats what i thought :P
[16:52] <daftykins> aldanon: ok, and "sudo chown g+w /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content" followed by "sudo service apache2 restart" just to be sure ;)
[16:52] <r0r0n04> Na3iL: 3ehh 3ehhh 3eeehhhhhh >:O
[16:53] <r0r0n04> mabo 3ehh 3ehh 3ehh 3ehh >:O
[16:53] <aldanon> daftykins: g+w is an invalid user heh
[16:54] <daftykins> aldanon: sorry that should've been chmod
[16:54] <daftykins> r0r0n04: if you have a support question, please ask it - if not, please leave.
[16:55] <knob> Question: What is the minimum number of fields in fstab?  Four fields are enough?  Or five?
[16:55] <r0r0n04> j_f-f:
[16:55] <daftykins> !ops | r0r0n04 spamming timewaster needs ejecting
[16:56]  * phunyguy looks up
[16:56] <popey> Work here is done.
[16:56] <aarobc> Hi! weird question, just got a monitor with an intergrated usb hub, everything works fine when I boot into windows, however on ubuntu plugging a usb keyboard into the monitor doesn't work
[16:56] <daftykins> popey + phunyguy he has a friend too ;)
[16:56] <daftykins> aarobc: you connected the USB downstream cable to a port on your laptop/desktop from the monitor?
[16:57] <aldanon> daftykins: still asking for connection information
[16:57] <aarobc> so I checked /lib/udev/rules.d/71-seat.rules and ih has a line about the monitor not having a proper vid/pid in the usb hub
[16:57] <daftykins> aldanon: log out and clear your browser cache, then try again
[16:57] <aarobc> daftykins: yes indeed
[16:58] <aarobc> but the weird part is some devices that are plugged into the monitor hub are recognized when I run lsusb
[16:58] <aarobc> but not the keyboard
[16:59] <daftykins> aarobc: do you have another OS you can check with?
[16:59] <aarobc> daftykins: already tested it with windows and it worked, you're saying another linux os?
[16:59] <daftykins> aarobc: ah no, Windows was what i had in mind
[16:59] <knob> I believe the minimum number of fields in fstab is four... anybody can shed some light?        From here: Question: What is the minimum number of fields in fstab?  Four fields are enough?  Or five?
[17:00] <aldanon> daftykins: no go
[17:00] <daftykins> aarobc: what version do you run?
[17:00] <aarobc> 15.10
[17:00] <daftykins> aldanon: so it's a theme you're attempting to throw on which is on your host system?
[17:00] <daftykins> aarobc: i'd try a live session for fun
[17:00] <aldanon> daftykins: any changes like install a theme, update a plugin
[17:01] <aarobc> daftykins: is worth a try, brb, rebootin
[17:01] <aldanon> daftykins: it's easy enough to dowload those and place them in their respective directories to avoid this issue - ***however the site is suppose to be "fully functional"
[17:01] <aldanon> daftykins: it's a test for me :(
[17:01] <daftykins> aldanon: ok; "sudo mkdir /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads"
[17:02] <daftykins> aldanon: repeat for "/plugins" and "/themes" (where 'uploads' is of course) - they may already exist so you can also check prior
[17:03] <aldanon> daftykins: they all already exist
[17:03] <OerHeks> knob, go count in 'man fstab' ( hint: there are 6 fields and all are used)
[17:03] <daftykins> aldanon: ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/ | pastebinit
[17:04] <Guest23546> now, again. i formatted the drive in windows and plugged it out and in several times and it worked but inserted it once on ubuntu and it started acting up
[17:04] <aldanon> daftykins: you are trying to send to empty document
[17:04] <Guest23546> this is another strange thing>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13647943/
[17:04] <Bashing-om> knob: 6 fields, all required . See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab .
[17:05] <Guest23546> the usb is mounted but look at what fdisk is saying
[17:05] <Kingsqueak> aldanon: typo, try again
[17:05] <Guest23546> how to fix the partition table error
[17:06] <daftykins> aldanon: can you run it without the | pastebinit on the end? that suggests the folder is empty, but you said the folders i suggested to create already exist
[17:06] <aldanon> daftykins: yeap i'm looking at them in the directory heh, I'll try without pastebin
[17:06] <Guest23546> i hate ubuntu
[17:06]  * Kingsqueak hopes Canonical has daftykins on payroll - you are thorough
[17:07] <daftykins> Kingsqueak: haha, sadly i am sustained by virtual cookies - but thank you!
[17:07] <Kingsqueak> you remind me how rusty I am heh
[17:07] <OerHeks> Kingsqueak, all volunteers can download iso's for free
[17:07] <aldanon> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13647997/
[17:08] <knob> OerHeks, and Bashing-om , thank you!  I did a test, and loaded a file system with four fields.   Is the kernel "making up" for my lack of "full information" on the fstab?      I mean, properly there are 6 fields... yet when I use 4, is the kernel "making up for it"?
[17:09] <daftykins> aldanon: ah-har so uploads is a symlink to an entirely different path... "sudo rm /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads && sudo mkdir /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads && sudo chown www-data: /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads && sudo ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/ | pastebinit"
[17:09] <OerHeks> knob, if the last 2 digits miss, maybe you get an error, or it will be default 0 i guess
[17:09] <Bashing-om> knob: I would say, depending, that the partition associated will not automount .
[17:10] <Guest23546> ubuntu <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< windows.
[17:10] <Guest23546> have a good day
[17:10] <motaka2> TJ-: ?
[17:10] <daftykins> motaka2: please don't pick on volunteers, you have been asked to perform a task... please do it.
[17:10] <knob> OerHeks, Bashing-om , thank you to both!  Much appreciated =)
[17:11] <Bashing-om> knob: np, just try'n to help :)
[17:11] <snowkidind> anyone using command line pandora
[17:12] <knob> snowkidind, not at the moment... I tried various things, yet never got it 100% working
[17:12] <snowkidind> ok
[17:12] <knob> Got another Pandora command line program about to test as soon as I canm
[17:12] <Aldanon2> daftykins: could you paste that in again, i'm just going to copy/paste from the server this time hehe
[17:13] <snowkidind> they just changes their tsl hash last night and now it isnt really working
[17:13] <daftykins> Aldanon2: "sudo rm /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads && sudo mkdir /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads && sudo chown www-data: /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads && sudo ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/ | pastebinit"
[17:13] <snowkidind> and the dang ubuntu apt-get pkg manager is not up to date with the latest anything
[17:14] <knob> snowkidind, oh man yes...  dude, Pandora changes that hash and it's just a PITA...
[17:14] <knob> lemme fetch you a link that helps... sec
[17:14] <snowkidind> yea it worked for the last 6 months no issues
[17:14] <Aldanon2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648098/
[17:15] <daftykins> Aldanon2: cool, sudo chmod g+w /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/plugins /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/themes
[17:16] <knob> snowkidind, check this :  http://pastebin.com/5ZS6WWwM
[17:16] <knob> Haven't tested it... yet maybe it works
[17:16] <Aldanon2> daftykins: done
[17:17] <snowkidind> thats good to get the new fingerprint, but i have no idea where to put it. i guess i need to find the install and rebuild it or something
[17:17] <daftykins> Aldanon2: "sudo service apache2 restart" for fun and then try another upload
[17:17] <knob> snowkidind, no no... it's a config file
[17:17] <snowkidind> where is it
[17:17] <snowkidind> the one in my ~ is just my email
[17:18] <Aldanon2> daftykins: no go
[17:18] <snowkidind> i’d think there is also a global pianobar config but i cant see anything in etc
[17:19] <knob> snowkidind, can you search for 'pianobar'... I think you should have a config file in there
[17:19] <knob> Pything-WiFi-Radio/config  ... that should be it
[17:19] <daftykins> Aldanon2: ok give me 4 for a break; in the meantime show me a "tail /var/log/apache2/access.log" and "tail /var/log/apache2/error.log"
[17:21] <Aldanon2> daftykins: should i upload those files some where or is there an easier way?
[17:22] <daftykins> Aldanon2: oh silly me, you can add "| pastebinit" after them to upload
[17:23] <aarobc> daftykins: tried a live boot of 14.04 whatever and same problem
[17:23] <daftykins> aarobc: well at least it's consistent! hmm, if you boot with it disconnected, plug it in post boot then run "dmesg | tail" does that shed any light?
[17:24] <Aldanon2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648270/
[17:25] <Aldanon2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648286/
[17:25] <snowkidind> thanks member:knob i apparently used a different tls certificate syntax and it didnt work. i retried it using the config example i found and it worked
[17:26] <root____2> adasd
[17:26] <daftykins> Aldanon2: alrighty i spy an error in that first one, when you previously had tried to change ownership over to www-data it never took, which is why an "ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/" shows root:root for most
[17:27] <ilken> halp! u get this error   /bin/sh: 1: gtk-config: not found   which package do i need to install?
[17:27] <_nemesys> sad
[17:27] <daftykins> Aldanon2: run "sudo service apache2 stop && sudo chown -R www-data: /var/www/html/wordpress/ && ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/ | pastebinit"
[17:28] <Aldanon2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648340/
[17:29] <Aldanon2> daftykins: houston we have a problem, i've lost access to the site entirely now
[17:30] <daftykins> Aldanon2: that's 'cause i asked you to stop the server :) "sudo service apache2 start" and test an upload once more
[17:30] <jectar> what ??
[17:30] <Aldanon2> daftykins: right lol
[17:30] <jectar> hello
[17:30] <prelude2004c_zzz> hey guys.. running ubuntu 7
[17:30] <prelude2004c_zzz> trying to get vdpau working and it keeps saying cannot connect to X
[17:31] <prelude2004c_zzz> i am only running shell as i am trying to access the video card.. what do i have to do ?
[17:31] <daftykins> prelude2004c_zzz: 7 isn't a valid version
[17:31] <prelude2004c_zzz> i don't need the X actually running
[17:31] <Aldanon2> daftykins: no go
[17:31] <prelude2004c_zzz> oh right.. centos
[17:31] <prelude2004c_zzz> haha
[17:31] <daftykins> prelude2004c_zzz: you'll note this isn't a centos channel :)
[17:31] <prelude2004c_zzz> lol just did
[17:31] <prelude2004c_zzz> that is what happens when you have too many open windows and use too many differnet OS's
[17:31] <prelude2004c_zzz> :P
[17:32] <daftykins> Aldanon2: another "ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content/ | pastebinit"
[17:32] <aarobc> daftykins: okay this is interesting, says "non enough bandwidth, but the hub is usb 3, and only one other device is pluggied into the hub http://aarobc.com/screenshot/Selection_011.bmp
[17:32] <Aldanon2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648412/
[17:33] <daftykins> Aldanon2: "pastebinit /var/log/apache2/access.log"
[17:34] <aarobc> daftykins: did you get that? I think my bouncer freaked out for a second
[17:34] <daftykins> aarobc: yep
[17:34] <Aldanon2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648444/
[17:35] <daftykins> aarobc: let me check: monitor has USB 3.0 ports? downstream cable is USB 3.0 and host PC port is USB 3.0?
[17:36] <aarobc> daftykins: yup. doublechecked everything twice
[17:36] <aarobc> usb 3 is enabled in bios
[17:36] <daftykins> aarobc: how about USB 2.0 on the host end? for fun
[17:36] <daftykins> Aldanon2: "pastebinit /var/log/apache2/error.log"
[17:37] <aarobc> daftykins: huh. it works.
[17:37] <aarobc> werid
[17:37] <Aldanon2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648489/
[17:37] <aarobc> kinda annoying that I'd have to use usb 2.0 though. I can live with it though
[17:38] <daftykins> :)
[17:39] <aarobc> daftykins: greatly appriciate the help!
[17:39] <daftykins> np!
[17:39] <daftykins> glad it was that easy...
[17:39] <freakynl> yoo
[17:41] <BlackFerdyPT> can anyone here tell me if it's possible to remove the "linux-firmware" package in Ubuntu, with no problems (concerning dependencies)?
[17:41] <daftykins> Aldanon2: are you up for doing a clean reboot of the server VM, followed by a browser cache clear... then once it's up again, going straight in and trying that plugin update, followed by sharing a couple of the logs again?
[17:41] <BlackFerdyPT> (I don't have Ubuntu installed, and don't want to install it just to test that...))
[17:41] <Aldanon2> daftykins: i've got no choice
[17:42] <daftykins> lol
[17:42] <BlackFerdyPT> alternative question: can anyone here tell me which packages depend on the "linux-firmware" one?
[17:43] <daftykins> BlackFerdyPT: "apt-cache showpkg linux-firmware"
[17:43] <BlackFerdyPT> daftykins, thank you for your answer. but, I'm using Debian now. and would just like to know that...
[17:43] <Kiddddd> hello
[17:43] <Kiddddd> I installed ubuntu on an external hard drive
[17:43] <Kiddddd> how do I boot into it now
[17:44] <Kiddddd> The external hard drive is connected via usb
[17:44] <daftykins> BlackFerdyPT: ok, packages.ubuntu.com is your friend then
[17:44] <LJSeinfeld> I've (now) got a VM that starts at my user login... (by putting a virtualbox-generated desktop shortcut in ~/.config/autostart) and when it boots it throws an error about not being able to see a shared folder that resides on another internal drive.  I'm assuming the drive hasn't mounted yet at that time... trying to figure out how to either start the VM when the drive mounts, or ???.
[17:44] <BlackFerdyPT> daftykins, I know I can know which packages depend on a package, yes. but how can "packages.ubuntu.com" tell me which packages are dependent on a specific one?
[17:44] <LJSeinfeld> there is a ton of stuff on the web about auto-starting a VM... none of it seems very good/effective
[17:45] <daftykins> BlackFerdyPT: 'cause you can look up a package and see that info...
[17:45] <aldanon2_> daftykins: ok what  logs would you like?
[17:45] <LJSeinfeld> when I look in the host gui, the mounted drive is there....
[17:45] <Bashing-om> Kiddddd: Boot loader (grub) installed onto the externel drive and in bios set the USB (device) as 1st boot priority . boot up . What happens ?
[17:46] <BlackFerdyPT> daftykins, I will check that website again, then
[17:46] <Kiddddd> one sec
[17:46] <daftykins> aldanon2_: so i take it it still failed? :( "pastebinit /var/log/apache2/error.log" once more please
[17:47] <mastershake> is there any reason i was able to play 1080p youtube videos on win8.1 but now i cant in xubuntu ?
[17:47] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648653/
[17:47] <mastershake> like on youtube the option to go above 480p is not included
[17:47] <ilken> halp! u get this error   /bin/sh: 1: gtk-config: not found   which package do i need to install?
[17:47] <daftykins> mastershake: browser?
[17:48] <mastershake> daftykins, chromium
[17:48] <mastershake> flash installed
[17:48] <daftykins> mastershake: hmm right click the player and check if it's using HTML5 or pepperflash
[17:48] <mastershake> html5
[17:49] <daftykins> mastershake: graphics hardware / drivers ? double check the same with firefox
[17:49] <daftykins> aldanon2_: what's your current local time?
[17:50] <aldanon2_> 9:50a
[17:50] <mastershake> ok 1 sec
[17:51] <aldanon2_> daftykins: why would it be showing a lot from yesterday? maybe it's really long?
[17:51] <aldanon2_> daftykins: nm it spans days heh
[17:51] <daftykins> odd i only see 2 entries from right now though
[17:52] <daftykins> also you jumped 6hrs in one reboot o0
[17:53] <BlackFerdyPT> can anyone here tell me the result of the command "apt-cache rdepends linux-firmware" in Ubuntu? (I'm using Debian, and would have to install Ubuntu just for that. The command list which packages are dependent on the "linux-firmware" one.)
[17:53] <aldanon2_> it's times like this that i wish i would have became a doctor
[17:53] <Demiurge> so i have a subuid and subgid namespaces
[17:53] <Demiurge> and a filesystem with original ids
[17:53] <aldanon2_> now there's directors 10 years younger than me and co-workers fresh out of college :(
[17:54] <Demiurge> is there any way to bump all ids in that directory/
[17:54] <Demiurge> to my namespace
[17:54] <Demiurge> like by 100000
[17:55] <polishpoliceforc> i'm trying to fix my sound speakers which abruptly stopped working, though the sound works when i plug in a headset
[17:55] <daftykins> aldanon2_: :D i'm not out of ideas yet, just more tedious pastebin'ing required i'm afraid. "ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/ | pastebinit"
[17:55] <polishpoliceforc> i already tried reinstalling pulseaudio mixer to no avail
[17:55] <aarobc> Anyone have experience with display port monitors flickering off momentarily with amd cards using the open source drivers?
[17:56] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648783/
[17:56] <aarobc> I would install the prorprietary drivers but those don't support kernel 4.* yet
[17:57] <Bashing-om> BlackFerdyPT: 3.13.0-70-generic : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648794/ .
[17:57] <aldanon2_> i wonder how well join.me works in this environment
[17:57] <BlackFerdyPT> Bashing-om, ah! :) Thank you very much, Bashing-om
[17:57] <daftykins> aldanon2_: alrighty, bearing in mind i know this is just a staging server... "sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-admin /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content"
[17:59] <aldanon2_> daftykins: no go
[17:59] <aldanon2_> daftykins: but yeah for sure, whatever we've gotta do, i care not about how insecure it is
[17:59] <daftykins> heh
[18:00] <daftykins> aldanon2_: hrmm looking back at your "ls  -al /var/www/html/wordpress/ | pastebinit" there's a 'wordpress' in there O_O
[18:00] <prelude2004c> anyone know centos well enough to help " vdpauinfo: cannot connect to X server :0.0 .. i am on the home strech and can't get it going " .. centos channel is dead
[18:00] <motaka2> TJ-: Are you there?
[18:01] <helpppppp> Hello I installed Ubuntu on an external hard drive
[18:01] <helpppppp> how do I boot into it?
[18:01] <mgolisch> prelude2004c: you run that from within a x11 session?
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> output of aplay -l shows me i have 3 hdmi devices??!?! i don't have a single hdmi port on this laptop
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> jonlee@blue:~$ aplay -l
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: CX20585 Analog [CX20585 Analog]
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc>   Subdevices: 1/1
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[18:01] <daftykins> motaka2: as i mentioned earlier please stop hassling volunteers with questions. have you read the hashing link and hashed your download yet to check it wasn't corrupted?
[18:01] <helpppppp> Hello?
[18:01] <helpppppp> :D
[18:01] <aldanon2_> daftykins: well as you say, it points to a wordpress anyhow
[18:02] <daftykins> aldanon2_: what does the target contain? "ls -al /usr/share/wordpress/" ?
[18:02] <helpppppp> What do I boot into
[18:03] <aldanon2_> daftykins: it's that symbolic link or whatever, no idea why they set it up that way
[18:03] <Bashing-om> helpppppp: Set in bios the usb as 1st boot priority . continue the boot process .
[18:03] <helpppppp> How do I boot into my external hard drive?
[18:03] <helpppppp> ok
[18:03] <helpppppp> one sec
[18:03] <aldanon2_> daftykins: how do I confirm what the target contains?
[18:03] <daftykins> aldanon2_: with the above ls command
[18:04] <helpppppp> ok so I have multiple boot options
[18:04] <helpppppp> which one is my external hard drive
[18:04] <helpppppp> I don't get it
[18:04] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648913/
[18:04] <helpppppp> I have UEFI hard disk UEFI cd/dvd uefi USB Hard disk UEFI usb cd/dvd
[18:04] <helpppppp> which one would be my external hard drive with ubuntu
[18:05] <Bashing-om> helpppppp: Each and every bios / UEFI is different .. just play with the settins to find the correct device to boot up .
[18:05] <daftykins> aldanon2_: are you sure that was "ls -al /usr/share/wordpress/" ?
[18:06] <aldanon2_> daftykins: copied/pasted what you put in - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648949/
[18:07] <daftykins> aldanon2_: "ls -al /var/www/html/ | pastebinit" ?
[18:08] <aldanon2_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648984/
[18:08] <lugo> hi, ich habe auf der selben platte 2 mal ubuntu; sda1 und sda5; hab ein grub-update gemacht und er zeigt auch beide an, jedoch wenn ich von sda1 booten will, bootet er trotzdem von sda5
[18:08] <lugo> sda1 ist übrigens ein Klon von sda5, uuids sind aber verschieden
[18:09] <Bashing-om> !de | lugo
[18:09] <lugo> sorry
[18:09] <its0x08> .g test
[18:10] <its0x08> .g test
[18:10] <its0x08> .g test
[18:10] <lugo> so i have 2 instances of ubuntu installed on the same drive (sda1 and sda5, sda1 being a clone of sda5 with different uuid)
[18:10] <daftykins> aldanon2_: does the site still work after "sudo rm /var/www/html/wordpress" ?
[18:11] <lugo> after updating grub and making sure grub got it right i tried to boot the ubuntu instance on sda1 to no avail..
[18:11] <EriC^^> lugo: are you in grub right now?
[18:11] <aldanon2_> daftykins: nope
[18:11] <lugo> without being noticed it started booting from sda5
[18:12] <lugo> without me being noticed
[18:12] <lugo> EriC^^: heh, nope
[18:12] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i hope there's an easy undo for that right? haha
[18:12] <Bashing-om> lugo: Did you verify the UUIDs in /etc/fstab as compared with ' sudo blkid ' ?
[18:13] <daftykins> aldanon2_: backspace the "/wordpress/" on the URL in your browser so it's just hostname/
[18:13] <daftykins> what happens?
[18:13] <lugo> Bashing-om: ah right, so i have to change /etc/fstab on the  sda1 instance to point to sda1
[18:14] <aldanon2_> daftykins: if i do that it just takes me to the apache2 "it works" page
[18:14] <Bashing-om> lugo: Correct .
[18:14] <lugo> ok, thanks, i'll try that
[18:14] <daftykins> aldanon2_: "ls /etc/apache2/sites-available" shows just "000-default.conf  default-ssl.conf" ?
[18:15] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649102/
[18:15] <daftykins> aldanon2_: "pastebinit /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf" ?
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> Hello
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> I have disconnnected several times but I need some help
[18:16] <EriC^^> lugo: you might need to grub-install depending on what you're trying to achieve here
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> So I installed Ubuntu on my external hard drive
[18:16] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649112/
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> However whatever boot device I select
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> it always doesn't recognize ubuntu
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> so what's up
[18:17] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: did you install in uefi mode?
[18:17] <hellogoodbye> yes
[18:17] <aldanon2_> daftykins: how do i undo that rm?
[18:17] <Bashing-om> lugo: I am not real smart .. but I can accept that 'update-grub' may not be enough to propogate the changes .. may have to explitly set grub again to sda1. There can be only 1 boot code to the hard drive. which ever system you want as that controlling authority .
[18:17] <hellogoodbye> Could the hard drive not be booting up fast enough?
[18:17] <hellogoodbye> I mean lets say I installed it and restarted the computer, could the computer load faster than the hard drive?
[18:17] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: are you in a live session right now?
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> Eric Yes
[18:18] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i doubt
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> what do you want me to do
[18:18] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:18] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you
[18:18] <daftykins> aldanon2_: before that, another "ls -al /var/www/html/ | pastebinit" please
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> ok one sec
[18:19] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649150/
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> eric
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> what's the thing after the -
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> is it an I
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> capital I?
[18:20] <EriC^^> no, L
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> so just lowercase l
[18:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:20] <daftykins> aldanon2_: do you view the site from a browser in the VM, or your host OS?
[18:20] <aldanon2_> i can only view it from within the vm
[18:21] <hellogoodbye> it says error /dev/sr1: unrecognized disk label
[18:21] <EriC^^> np
[18:21] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type the whole command, with | nc ...
[18:21] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i did set up the connection as bridged hoping to access from the host, but that's another rabbit hole
[18:21] <EriC^^> or paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> temporary failure in name resolution
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> oh I'm not connected to internet
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:22] <daftykins> aldanon2_: ok, can you clear the browser cache again and enter just "http://localhost" to visit?
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> one sec
[18:23] <hellogoodbye> here's the link http://termbin.com/8rg8
[18:23] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i just get the apache2 "it works" page there
[18:23] <hellogoodbye> what do you think eric
[18:23] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[18:23] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: it looks ok
[18:24] <daftykins> aldanon2_: what's the deadline for this again?
[18:24] <hellogoodbye> done what next
[18:24] <aldanon2_> tomorrow
[18:24] <lugo> so apparently it's not (only) the fstab entry
[18:24] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:25] <kr00k> hi everyone!
[18:25] <aldanon2_> given how much time i've put into it, i guess i'm just going to have to live with it the way it is
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> says EFI variables are not supported on this system, use netcat
[18:25] <lugo> would it help to chroot into sda1 and reinstall grub from there?
[18:25] <aldanon2_> if those guys magically know how to fix it in seconds...I'll report back here in what they did hehe
[18:25] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: oh, you've booted in legacy mode
[18:25] <EriC^^> did you install this on another pc hellogoodbye ?
[18:25] <EriC^^> btw is that a beatles reference?
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> EriC^^ yes
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> yes
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> so I'm on my laptop right now
[18:25] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i just need to undo that rm
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> I installed it on my newly built computer
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> on my external hdd
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> My BIOS boot settings are set to legacy+uefi
[18:26] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: ok, go into the bios and set legacy mode disabled, ( enable uefi )
[18:26] <kr00k> some interested in Develop Tech?
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> that should work then?
[18:26] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i'm fairly convinced at this point they won't be able to
[18:26] <daftykins> aldanon2_: to be honest i'd have a clean 14.04 server up and wordpress running in <30 mins.
[18:27] <aldanon2_> daftykins: yeah, i started down this hole last night with the intentions of it being faster than starting over haha
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> ok now what
[18:27] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: if you get a uefi menu you can select ubuntu, then fix it from the install, if you don't, boot the live usb in uefi mode and you can fix it from there
[18:27] <daftykins> aldanon2_: beauty of VMs is you can just create another ;) so you'd still have this one
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> so I don't get it, I selected UEFI on my bios
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> and rebooted
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> now it's brining me back to the install ubuntu screen
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> my usb is still plugged in
[18:27] <EriC^^> ok, press try ubuntu
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> now what
[18:28] <aldanon2_> daftykins: well i just need something to show them for now, but once we undo that rm, I'll try spinning up another one
[18:28] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[18:28] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:28] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:28] <daftykins> aldanon2_: alrighty, one moment
[18:29] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/q74i
[18:29] <hellogoodbye> there
[18:29] <hellogoodbye> that look good?
[18:30] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[18:30] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:30] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:30] <daftykins> aldanon2_: sudo ln -s /usr/share/wordpress /var/www/html/wordpress
[18:30] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: try rebooting
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> k should I unplug the usb?
[18:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> or does it not matter
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> it's in efi shell now
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:32] <EriC^^> ok boot the live usb
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:32] <EriC^^> do you have secureboot disabled?
[18:32] <aldanon2_> daftykins: thanks for trying man, I'm gonna be pissed if some how they know exactly what to do
[18:32] <aldanon2_> daftykins: but such as life i guess
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> what should I do
[18:33] <bluzeo> hey guys how do i install gnome classic??? i getting tired of gnome3...
[18:33] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[18:33] <aldanon2_> daftykins: just out of curiousity do you happen to know what addy i'd put in to access from the host? so far putting in the IP takes me to the apache it works page, but no access to wordpress
[18:34] <daftykins> aldanon2_: i get the idea you grabbed wordpress from packages instead of installing by hand... which i see as a root of all these problems. this setup is insanely weird compared to the ones i administrate
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> ok done
[18:35] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:35] <aldanon2_> daftykins: just followed the directions from here -> sudo ln -s /usr/share/wordpress /var/www/html/wordpress
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> http:
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> \
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> oops
[18:35] <aldanon2_> daftykins: gah from digital oceans
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/l4du
[18:35] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[18:35] <EriC^^> ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> wait
[18:36] <aldanon2_> daftykins: they have you do wget
[18:36] <daftykins> aldanon2_: yeah that should've brought it back such that the browser on the VM can visit localhost/wordpress - i can't give you an answer to accessing from the host, as i don't know your virtualbox setup
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> so I showed you the log
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> now you want me to type in
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> what?
[18:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i think you have a nasty bios
[18:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: cause the ubuntu entry we added a minute ago is now gone
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> so
[18:37] <EriC^^> we'll have to play dirty as well to trick it into booting ubuntu
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> wow you're seriously going to help me?
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> lol I'm impressed
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> thanks man
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> what do you want me to do?
[18:38] <EriC^^> it's not rocket science, i like to dramatize and stuff
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> It's an MSI bios btw
[18:38] <aldanon2_> daftykins: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:38] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: did you type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[18:38] <EriC^^> ?
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> yep
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> it worked
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> now
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> what
[18:38] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:39] <hellogoodbye> Is command not found
[18:39] <EriC^^> small l
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> is command not found
[18:40] <EriC^^> small L
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> oh
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/tloc
[18:41] <daftykins> aldanon2_: i'd rather do it from scratch than pick through a guide; anyway the main thing - is it back working now?
[18:41] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: did you type ls -lR ?
[18:41] <EriC^^> or just ls ?
[18:41] <hellogoodbye> ls -IR
[18:41] <aldanon> daftykins: yeah it is, thanks - just showing you the directions i followed so you'd know where i got wordpress that's all heh
[18:41] <EriC^^> oh it's ls -lR ( small L R )
[18:42] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/rvrf
[18:42] <hellogoodbye> is the R capital or lowercase
[18:43] <gerep> Hello good people. I have a server running and I'm curious where should I place my application binaries, there are several users in that server, should I place it? I read this: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/usr.html but it states: "Large software packages must not use a direct subdirectory under the /usr
[18:43] <gerep> hierarchy." or should I use /opt?
[18:43] <daftykins> aldanon: mmm a few steps are different to what i'd do... anyway how do you want to proceed? i have to be somewhere in 2hrs so i don't know how quick you can stop that VM, create a new one and install 14.04.3 server :)
[18:43] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: capital
[18:43] <hellogoodbye> so lowercase L capital R?
[18:43] <gerep> It will be around 5 binaries with ~4-7 mb each
[18:43] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: yup
[18:43] <ImJune> so cron is no longer in /var/log
[18:44] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/p8wa
[18:44] <hellogoodbye> that look right?
[18:44] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: yeah
[18:44] <Pici> ImJune: by default on ubuntu there is no separate logfile cron.
[18:44] <aldanon> daftykins: i've gotta take my time and go through the steps, i'm a windows admin lol
[18:44] <hellogoodbye> k so what next
[18:44] <ImJune> errr
[18:44] <ImJune> thats not good
[18:44] <EriC^^> type sudo mkdir -p /mnt/EFI/Boot /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[18:45] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: ^
[18:45] <ImJune> so where do I get the cron logs from?
[18:45] <daftykins> aldanon: do you want to try a clean one with my advice though, or...?
[18:45] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:45] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:45] <Pici> ImJune: there should be entries when jobs are run in /var/log/syslog
[18:45] <aldanon> daftykins: you think we've got time?
[18:46] <ImJune> ok if I want to write a bash script to run a funny sound clip everytime I log in where shoudl I putt that
[18:46] <aldanon> daftykins: it'd be easier for me if we could /tell to have a clean window
[18:46] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[18:46] <daftykins> aldanon: depends how good the internet connection is where you are for the package updates - is it fast?
[18:46] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[18:46] <daftykins> aldanon: yeah PM is fine
[18:46] <aldanon> daftykins: yeah internet won't be a problem
[18:46] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/grubx64.efi
[18:48] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:48] <hellogoodbye> typed all 3
[18:48] <hellogoodbye> :)
[18:48] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> oops
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> I accidentally did something
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> and now all it shows is a
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> >
[18:49] <EriC^^> ?
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> I can't exit out
[18:49] <EriC^^> press ctrl+c
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> it's just >
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> ty
[18:50] <hellogoodbye> one moment
[18:50] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:51] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> well it says it's going to boot on 0006
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> which is windows
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> is that correct?
[18:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> k shoudl I remove the USB?
[18:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> one moment while I reboot
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> it's on EFI
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> again
[18:52] <EriC^^> ok boot again
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> should I press ESC to skip startup.nsh
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:52] <EriC^^> you never answered, is secureboot enabled?
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> what should I do now
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> um
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> let me check
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> where would it be
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> in the bios
[18:53] <EriC^^> boot options
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> so
[18:53] <EriC^^> next to uefi stuff
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> it just says
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> it just gives me a boot mode select
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> and then boot options
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> nothing else
[18:54] <hellogoodbye> the boot mode select is UEFI or Legacy+UEFI currently it's on UEFI
[18:54] <EriC^^> ok
[18:54] <EriC^^> try to boot the live usb again
[18:54] <hellogoodbye> mmk
[18:54] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:55] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:55] <EriC^^> did it remove the Windows entry we just put?
[18:56] <hellogoodbye> one sec
[18:56] <hellogoodbye> i was in the bathroom
[18:56] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:57] <hellogoodbye> let me boot into live usb
[18:58] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:59] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:59] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/zwjq
[19:00] <EriC^^> yup it's gone
[19:01] <hellogoodbye> k
[19:01] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Boot\\bootx64.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[19:01] <hellogoodbye> k
[19:03] <nekyian> I have a HP laserjet pro mfp m125nw and cant manage to print both sides with it in ubuntu no matter what I do. I tried even/odd pages but always prints even on both sides. Anyone managed to print both sides under ubuntu with HP?
[19:03] <hellogoodbye> k
[19:03] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: try rebooting
[19:04] <BinaryC011010110> Hey, does anyone know how to use something like Keypass on linux or rather what is the best password handler available ?
[19:04] <hellogoodbye> still going to efi
[19:04] <hellogoodbye> :|
[19:04] <hellogoodbye> I guess it won't work lol
[19:04] <EriC^^> wow that's stubborn bios
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> well what's the problem?
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> lol
[19:05] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i can think of a workaround, but it's ghetto-ish
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> well if you have the time
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> I don't want to waste your time :|
[19:05] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: it wont accept efi entries, keeps erasing them
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> well
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> you want to try? I could just leave you in peace
[19:05] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: it's not really a waste, hear the solution first, you'd have to keep the live usb plugged in, and modify it's grub.cfg to boot your actual install
[19:06] <EriC^^> or you could convert to legacy
[19:06] <EriC^^> i'd opt for sol #2
[19:06] <hellogoodbye> well my usb has the ubuntu install on it
[19:06] <hellogoodbye> my external hdd has ubuntu installed on it
[19:06] <BinaryC011010110> I agree
[19:06] <BinaryC011010110> with EriC^^
[19:06] <hellogoodbye> ok then how do I do option 2... lol
[19:07] <EriC^^> BinaryC011010110: i agree with you agreeing with me
[19:07] <hellogoodbye> lol
[19:07] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: boot the live usb
[19:07] <hellogoodbye> done
[19:08] <BinaryC011010110> So, password manager? Best one
[19:09] <BinaryC011010110> In someone's opinion, of course.
[19:09] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: actually since it's a new install it would be easier to just reinstall in legacy mode
[19:09] <hellogoodbye> ok
[19:09] <hellogoodbye> so how do I erase what I just installed on the HDD and reinstall in legacy mode, :D
[19:10] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: go to the bios and select legacy, then boot the live usb, when it boots make sure ls -l /sys/firmware/efi doesn't exist
[19:10] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: the installer should take care of that, choose to erase the disk and install
[19:10] <BinaryC011010110> EriC^^ is correct
[19:11] <BinaryC011010110> I have done it myself
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> so I'm booting into live usb
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> now I just do erase disk and install ubuntu
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> right?
[19:11] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> sec
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> it has something
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> it says config_table esrt
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> efivars fw_platform_size
[19:12] <BinaryC011010110> Crap I have to go. Password manager? Someone?
[19:12] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: which laptop do you have btw?
[19:12] <EriC^^> BinaryC011010110: keepassx
[19:12] <EriC^^> hold on
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> I'm not installng Ubuntu on my laptop
[19:13] <EriC^^> yeah that's the right name BinaryC011010110
[19:13] <hellogoodbye> I instaleld it on a hdd and am trying to boot my newly built computer with the HDD
[19:13] <hellogoodbye> Im using my laptop just to chat
[19:13] <BinaryC011010110> thank you EriC^^, Good bye!
[19:13] <EriC^^> np, good bye
[19:13] <hellogoodbye> so how do I delete the efi
[19:14] <hellogoodbye> thingy
[19:14] <hellogoodbye> :D
[19:14] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: you can't you have to boot in legacy mode
[19:14] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: first time you booted the usb it was in legacy mode
[19:14] <hellogoodbye> Well there is no option to boot "just" in legacy mode, there's only an option to boot in "legacy+uefi"
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> or just uefi
[19:15] <EriC^^> try legacy+uefi
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> by default it's set to legacy+uefi
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> which is what I just booted with
[19:15] <EriC^^> do whatever you did the first time you booted
[19:15] <EriC^^> hmm
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> lol
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> I'll just buy a new hard drive lmao. My first two internal hard drives failed on me, so I'm trying to avoid buying another one
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> maybe I should try taking the external hard drive out and putting it in the desktop
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> would that work?
[19:16] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i'm confused
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> about
[19:16] <EriC^^> is it not on the pc you're trying to use it with?
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> so here's the deal
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> I just built a pc
[19:17] <hellogoodbye> I installed ubuntu on my external hard drive
[19:17] <hellogoodbye> I'm trying to boot into ubuntu now
[19:17] <hellogoodbye> make sense?
[19:17] <EriC^^> yeah, i thought you installed it using the laptop, and are trying to boot into on the other pc
[19:18] <EriC^^> ( which is the one we've been trying to get it to boot on )
[19:18] <duckduckDamn> a
[19:18] <hellogoodbye> No I just simply connected my external hdd to my computer, booted from a usb, and instaleld ubuntu on the external hdd using just the newly built computer
[19:18] <hellogoodbye> no laptop involved :_
[19:19] <EriC^^> ok
[19:19] <hellogoodbye> so should I take apart the external hard drive then?
[19:19] <hellogoodbye> and just put it inside the computer
[19:20] <hellogoodbye> and format it as an internal hard drive
[19:20] <hellogoodbye> would that work better? lol
[19:20] <EriC^^> no
[19:21] <EriC^^> we need to boot the usb in legacy mode somehow
[19:21] <hellogoodbye> one sec
[19:22] <EriC^^> i have an idea
[19:22] <EriC^^> if whatever you're trying right now doesn't work we can try it
[19:25] <hellogoodbye> well
[19:25] <hellogoodbye> I just took off the cover for the external
[19:25] <hellogoodbye> I want to put it in the desktop
[19:26] <EriC^^> it wont make a difference though, unless you want to do it
[19:26] <hellogoodbye> I want to do it
[19:26] <hellogoodbye> do you know anything about that?
[19:26] <EriC^^> not really
[19:27] <hellogoodbye> k well
[19:27] <hellogoodbye> how often are you on here?
[19:27] <EriC^^> pretty often
[19:27] <level15_> I just installed Ubuntu 15.10 trying to use LVM over LUKS encrypted volume, however, after reboot, I am not prompted for password, and get this error a lot of times
[19:27] <level15_> run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
[19:28] <level15_>   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
[19:28] <hellogoodbye> k I'll come back later
[19:28] <level15_> after a while, I end up on initramfs
[19:28] <level15_> any hints on how to fix it?
[19:28] <hellogoodbye> once I put it in the pc
[19:28] <EriC^^> ok
[19:30] <hellogoodbye> thank you so much for your help
[19:40] <dohdoh> ubuntu wont let me run google chrome stable gives back errors which is jason@DragunsDen:~$ google-chrome-stable
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(408)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(244)] readlink(/home/jason/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(244)] readlink(/home/jason/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(268)] Failed to create /home/jason/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(408)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[19:41] <sirseedsalot> Eric are you on?
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> As soon as I took out the external hard drive, plugged it into my computer, it recognized ubuntu instantly
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> LOL
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> Thank you so much for your help
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> I owe you so much
[19:45] <ted586947> ubuntu 15.10 sound output has died recently and fixes are not working - how can i reset the sound settings to their default values again?
[19:46] <nekyian> I have a HP laserjet pro mfp m125nw and cant manage to print both sides with it in ubuntu no matter what I do. I tried even/odd pages but always prints even on both sides. Anyone managed to print both sides under ubuntu with HP?
[19:51] <meon> #linux
[19:52] <matteo__> hi
[19:56] <looseyuhtway> join ##thetldr
[20:01] <TJ-> nekyian: Sounds like a bug in the driver ppd; I've not seen that behaviour myself.
[20:03] <nekyian> I dont have the option in ubuntu default pdf viewer for printing two sides
[20:03] <nekyian> I also search the net for this issue and they say it really is a bug and the two sided printing option appears inactive
[20:14] <jason67666767> need help immediately with google chrome stable get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13650519/
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> jason67666767: use chromium instead for ubuntu
[20:15] <JustCurious> am I the only one using Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome fallback
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> JustCurious: can we help you?
[20:16] <JustCurious> not at all, I am very well with it
[20:16] <TJ-> jason67666767: "Permission denied" suggests the directories and files it refers to are not owned by your user; did you by-chance install it/run it as UID 0 (root) via sudo, by mistake?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | JustCurious ok
[20:16] <TJ-> jason67666767: check with "find /home/jason/.config/google-chrome -ls"
[20:16] <JustCurious> ok got it
[20:21] <jason67666767> yeah i ran it as sudo
[20:22] <TJ-> jason67666767: so you'll need to change the owner permissions: "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/jason/.config/google-chrome"
[20:32] <saint> hi
[20:33] <saint> am new here pls
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> saint: you joined an ubuntu support channel
[20:33] <Ben64> if you need help, ask a question
[20:33] <eelstrebor> !topic
[20:34] <phschwartz> Hi, I am having issues with a built in LTE modem on my laptop from Sierra Wireless with ubuntu 15.10. I enabled mobile broadband and setup a connection. mmcli can query the modem and says connected with an LTE strength. But no matter what I do, I cannot get an ip associated with wwan0 allowing connectivity, any thoughts?
[20:34] <eelstrebor> /topic results in: You're not a channel operator
[20:34] <eelstrebor> topic results in: You're not a channel operator
[20:35] <HelloGoodbyte> Hello
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> eelstrebor: you cannto change topic as regular user
[20:35] <saint> how can i make my fire wall strong
[20:35] <hellogoodbye> Eric are you on
[20:35] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: hi
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | saint
[20:35] <eelstrebor> i just did what !topic said to do
[20:35] <hellogoodbye> :D
[20:35] <hellogoodbye> ERIC thanks so much
[20:36] <Ben64> eelstrebor: you can't type anything after "/topic" or it tries to change it
[20:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: no problem
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> as soon as I took the hard drive out of the external hard drive enclosure, hooked it up to my computer and booted, it recognized ubuntu as installed instantly
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> and now I'm on Ubuntu right now using Pidgin
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> :D
[20:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: cool :D
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> I'm not a computer wiz so I really needed your help, and I'm so glad you were there, :P
[20:36] <TJ-> !coookie | EriC^^
[20:36] <TJ-> !cookie | EriC^^
[20:37] <hellogoodbye> yes give the man a cookie
[20:37] <TJ-> huh?
[20:37] <eelstrebor> Ben64, i didn't try to change the topic
[20:37] <TJ-> did ubottu net-split?
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> hi MonkeyDust
[20:37] <poseidon> Any suggestions for a service to backup ubuntu webservers?
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: no, just triggered
[20:37] <EriC^^> :D
[20:37] <TJ-> oh well!
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> !backup | poseidon
[20:38] <TJ-> grrrr who stole the cookies?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i think you had too many cookies
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> indigestion
[20:38] <TJ-> I think daftykins ate them
[20:38] <EriC^^> :D
[20:39] <samojedi> jou
[20:39] <saint> so what is the topic?
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> saint: we use this channel only for ubuntu support questions, no chat topic
[20:42]  * daftykins burps at lotuspsychje 
[20:45] <saint> @lotuspsychje> thanks
[20:46] <gero> ciao
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: join discuss :p
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> !it | gero
[20:47] <JayJoe200x> hi am new here pls
[20:47] <LeviM_> I installed Ubuntu Server edition to a given machine and it can't detect the ethernet driver. So I put the tar.gz for the driver source on the machine... but Ubuntu Server doesn't ship with make, gcc, etc.
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> JayJoe200x: welcome, you have joined an ubuntu support channel
[20:47] <LeviM_> So now I am booted from a Live CD of Ubuntu Desktop.
[20:48] <LeviM_> How can I install the drivers from this livecd to the already installed OS?
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: wich chipset?
[20:48] <gero> jopn #ubuntu-it
[20:48] <LeviM_> amd64? Is that what you are asking?
[20:48] <JayJoe200x> pls how do i get an AI for my system
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: no, the chipset of your ethernet card?
[20:49] <LeviM_> lotuspsychje: the device is a USB to ethernet adapter.
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> JayJoe200x: explain a bit what you trying to do?
[20:49] <LeviM_> The machine itself has a wireless card that won't work until the Linux 4.4 kernel.
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: hmmm not sure thats very reccomended for server use..
[20:50] <LeviM_> I know, I know.
[20:50] <LeviM_> I'm installing server edition because it doesn't have x or gnome
[20:50] <LeviM_> I need to do this so that the 4.4rc3 kernel upgrade actually works.
[20:50] <LeviM_> Then I install gnome, x, gdm, etc.
[20:51] <Ben64> that doesn't make sense at all
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: lets start from the beginning, whats your purpose with your machine?
[20:51] <LeviM_> fine.
[20:51] <LeviM_> It's a laptop.
[20:51] <LeviM_> It will be used pretty much like a laptop.
[20:51] <JayJoe200x> levim pls answer me
[20:51] <JayJoe200x> pls how do i get an AI for my system
[20:51] <LeviM_> It does not have a wired nic.
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> !details | JayJoe200x explain AI?
[20:52] <LeviM_> It only has a wireless card that works with the Linux 4.4rc3 kernel.
[20:52] <LeviM_> (well, just 4.4)
[20:52] <Ben64> LeviM_: so install 16.04 desktop and use the mainline kernel
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: and why install server edition on a laptop?
[20:52] <LeviM_> It doesn' twork.
[20:52] <LeviM_> I've already tried.
[20:52] <JayJoe200x> nic
[20:52] <LeviM_> gnome and a bunch of other packages fail to work.
[20:52] <JayJoe200x> atificail intelligent
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: wich ubuntu versions did you try that would fail on that laptop?
[20:53] <LeviM_> So the idea is to install server edition which lacks all these packages.
[20:53] <LeviM_> Then upgrade the kernel.
[20:53] <Ben64> LeviM_: then join #ubuntu+1 for support with doing that, because you're not going to have a good time installing server, installing 4.4 and installing gnome and stuff separately
[20:53] <LeviM_> Then install gnome, x, gdm, etc?
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> ubuntu it means
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> ubuntu it means
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> atificail intelligent
[20:53] <Ben64> JayJoe200x: stop.
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> pls how do i get an it for my system
[20:54] <Ben64> JayJoe200x: you don't, it doesn't exist
[20:54] <LeviM_> I've already done it on Arch and I can definitely say it was not pleasant.
[20:54] <JayJoe200x> ben u mean it<
[20:54] <LeviM_> I just need help installing the drivers for the USB-to-ethernet from the livecd.
[20:54] <LeviM_> I can do everything else.
[20:54] <Ben64> your best bet is 16.04 + mainline
[20:54] <Ben64> anything else is just wasting time
[20:55] <TJ-> LeviM_: do you have another machine, chroot, or a VM, you can build the driver in
[20:55] <LeviM_> Sure - the livecd.
[20:55] <LeviM_> But rather than doing it I figured I'd install from the deb directly.
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: tell us wich ubuntu versions you tried, that failed on your network card?
[20:56] <TJ-> LeviM_: why not install the 4.4rc3 kernel packages so you can get the wifi up?
[20:56] <saint> how do i get an AI in my system
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> saint  stop
[20:56] <k1l> saint: what AI?
[20:57] <k1l> saint: can you name a exact program?
[20:57] <JayJoe200x> me?
[20:57] <JayJoe200x> but windows have it
[20:57] <LeviM_> lotuspsychje: The USB to ethernet or the wireless card?
[20:57] <k1l> JayJoe200x: have what?
[20:57] <k1l> JayJoe200x: saint no need to join with 2 nicks
[20:57] <saint> artificail intelligent
[20:57] <saint> Ai
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: you say only kernel 4.4 supports your devices, so you tried different kernels/ubuntu versions before?
[20:58] <JayJoe200x> they have it" the AI
[20:58] <ikonia> LeviM_: please show me the document that says kernel 4.4 has your module in but lower versions doesn't
[20:58] <ikonia> where is the release note that says "introduced in 4.4"
[20:58] <k1l> JayJoe200x: saint last chance: can you name an exact program? else we must assume you just came here to make trouble
[20:58] <LeviM_> Sigh...
[20:59] <LeviM_> Can't you just believe me? You have no idea how much time *I've already spent on this*
[20:59] <Ben64> LeviM_: this will work a lot better if you let people help you
[20:59] <LeviM_> I've already successfully done this in Arch .
[20:59] <LeviM_> Yes, it only works in 4.4
[20:59] <TJ-> LeviM_: if you download the three 4.4rc3 binary .deb files for the PC's architecture (-image and -headers [arch and all]) you can install them manually from a USB transfer, or the Live ISO, then you'll have Wifi. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4-rc3-wily/
[20:59] <saint> the name of the progrAM IS JAVIS
[20:59] <LeviM_> No, it will not work in any opther kernel.
[20:59] <ikonia> LeviM_: ok, show me the document
[20:59] <LeviM_> Yes, I already tried 4.4rc3 deb and the system failed
[20:59] <LeviM_> to boot I mean
[20:59] <ikonia> LeviM_: or the release note that says "introduced in 4.4"
[20:59] <ikonia> LeviM_: whats the module name ?
[20:59] <LeviM_> brcm 4350
[21:00] <ikonia> thats not a module name is it ?
[21:00] <LeviM_> it's the name of the wireless nic
[21:00] <ikonia> thats a card model number,
[21:00] <LeviM_> Just a second.
[21:00] <TJ-> LeviM_: how did the 4.4rc3 boot fail? solving that might be the best route if that kernel has support.
[21:01] <LeviM_> TJ-: Yes, exactly. gnome-session failed and so did HOSTS of other packages.
[21:01] <LeviM_> In arch I simply installed those packages *after* I did the kerenel upgrade.
[21:01] <Ben64> yeah, i'd fix the 4.4 boot problem instead of creating a bunch more by installing server, compiling a driver for a usb-ethernet for some reason, then installing gnome manually
[21:01] <ikonia> what is the module name
[21:01] <TJ-> LeviM_: so boot succeeded, but the GUI failed - possibly due to no accelerated GPU driver
[21:02] <LeviM_> No, boot did not fully succeed.
[21:02]  * lotuspsychje thinks he never tried other ubuntu versions on his broadcom
[21:02] <ikonia> LeviM_: whats the module name ?
[21:02] <LeviM_> I could not even get an init 3terminal.
[21:02] <Ben64> init 3 doesn't mean anything
[21:02] <ikonia> init 3 doesn't exist any more
[21:02] <ikonia> LeviM_: whats the module name ?
[21:02] <LeviM_> Here: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/brcm80211
[21:03] <LeviM_> Look at BCM4350
[21:03] <LeviM_> Kernel 4.4
[21:03] <LeviM_> Believe me yet?
[21:03] <ikonia> LeviM_: no
[21:03] <LeviM_> Sigh...
[21:03] <ikonia> LeviM_: what is the name of the module you want to use
[21:03] <ikonia> that a list of stuff
[21:03] <LeviM_> brcmfmac
[21:03] <ikonia> what is the module YOU want
[21:03] <ikonia> ok, thank you
[21:03] <LeviM_> Look in the table: queued for 4.4
[21:03] <TJ-> LeviM_: a Recovery mode boot should get you to a 'root' shell, or using the default entry edited with "systemd.unit=multiuser.target" will get to the consoles with no GUI/X.
[21:04] <k1l> saint: it doesnt have that. neither does ubuntu.
[21:04] <ikonia> 2.6.37
[21:04] <ikonia> thats when that driver was introduced to the kernel
[21:04] <LeviM_> And I already tried 15.10 lotuspsychje: wireless DID NOT WORK
[21:04] <LeviM_> The arch guys were 10x more helpful. They at least trusted me when I said I needed what I did.
[21:04] <ikonia> you should be fine with anything post 2.6.39
[21:04] <ikonia> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless
[21:04] <LeviM_> No, ikonia.
[21:04] <ikonia> arch document says 2.6.37 too
[21:04] <saint> kil the name of the progrAM IS JAVIS
[21:04] <LeviM_> The specific device will not work until 4.4
[21:05] <saint> i installed it on a windows os and it workde
[21:05] <LeviM_> I have already tried Ubunu 15.10 which has 4.2 and it does not work.
[21:05] <TJ-> LeviM_: if you've got the LiveCD running, 1st step is to create a chroot environment to be able to switch into the installed system
[21:05] <LeviM_> TJ-: Thank you.
[21:05] <LeviM_> Once in chroot, then what?
[21:06] <TJ-> LeviM_: "sudo mkdir /target; for N in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$N /target/$N; done
[21:06] <axel_> yvan
[21:06] <TJ-> LeviM_: then "sudo chroot /target" and you're in the installed system and can (hopefully) also use the network and get DNS resolution
[21:07] <LeviM_> Hmm.
[21:07] <TJ-> LeviM_: then if you need to build drivers against a kernel you'll want "apt-get install build-essential"
[21:07] <LeviM_> So I mounted the rootfs to /mnt already
[21:07] <LeviM_> I need to do something differently with --bind?
[21:07] <LeviM_> What is this doing, exactly?
[21:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: it's creating a bind-mount of the existing mount points into the target
[21:08] <ikonia> if you need instructions on chrooting - building custom kernels is not the right approach
[21:08] <EriC^^> LeviM_: TJ-  you need to mount --bind /run too to use apt
[21:08] <balazs> Hi, can somebody tell me what's the equivalent of ticking "Use this connection only for resources on its network" when I use nmcli ?
[21:08] <ikonia> the right approach is to wait for an ubuntu package with your 4.4 kernel to be released
[21:08] <TJ-> EriC^^: I never have; run means the host and chroot env services get mixed up
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> wasnt 4.4 released mainline recently?
[21:09] <LeviM_> ikonia: Or just use Arch, which I have working.
[21:09] <EriC^^> TJ-: i had a user not mount --bind, and apt wouldn't work until he mount binded
[21:09] <ikonia> LeviM_: that works too, do that
[21:09] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: no, 4.4 was announced to be the kernel in 16.04, mainline is only on RC3 so far
[21:09] <LeviM_> I would just rather use Ubuntu.
[21:09] <TJ-> EriC^^: possibly due to some service that was running/left its PID file behind in the chroot
[21:09] <LeviM_> I'm not familiar with bind-mounts - will look that up later. For now will just follow the instructions.
[21:09] <ikonia> I suspect you'll only be waiting a few weeks max for the RC to be moved to stable
[21:09] <TJ-> LeviM_: it copies an existing mount to another mountpoint
[21:09] <ikonia> then you can just install that package and move on
[21:10] <LeviM_> Am I  changing "target" to the mountpoint for my ssd?
[21:10] <LeviM_> Or literally just target?
[21:11] <TJ-> LeviM_: sorry! I missed out a key step there! ... after "mkdir /target;" you need to mount the installed root file-system to /target
[21:11] <TJ-> LeviM_: e.g. "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /target" if sda4 were the root file-system of the installation
[21:12] <TJ-> LeviM_: *then* you can do the bind-mount correctly
[21:14] <LeviM_> Right. I got " /target/etc/resolv.conf" is a symbol link to nowhere.
[21:14] <LeviM_> I'm guessing it wasn't in etc.
[21:15] <LeviM_> Looking...
[21:15] <LeviM_> Hmm. It's there.
[21:16] <LeviM_> Hmm.
[21:17] <LeviM_> Pinging 8.8.8.8 worked.
[21:17] <TJ-> OK, that' might be due to the way the Live ISO is operating, before entering the chroot do as EriC^^ suggested: "sudo mount --bind /run /target/run"
[21:17] <LeviM_> but it can't use DNS.
[21:17] <TJ-> /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf so inside the chroot it'll also need the /run/ tmpfs mounting to work
[21:18] <LeviM_> Thanks. Trying.
[21:18] <TJ-> probably should have bind-mounted /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf to be proper, but then entire /run/ won't hurt too much since this is a Live environment
[21:20] <nexace> i rm'd my /var/log/mail.log and now I cant get postfix to post logs to the file anymore
[21:20] <TJ-> LeviM_: on Ubuntu Desktop we usually have an instance of dnsmasq privately owned/controlled by Network Manager, listening on 127.0.1.1, and that's what is in the /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf file, which is symlinked to /etc/resolv.conf
[21:20] <nexace> i tried touch'ing and changing ownership to syslog:adm and making correct permissions
[21:20] <LeviM_> Yeah, I'm seeing that.
[21:20] <LeviM_> I'm just going to copy it over (instead of symlink)
[21:20] <TJ-> nexace: did you restart postfix
[21:20] <LeviM_> Don't know if that will work.
[21:20] <nexace> yes multiple times
[21:20] <TJ-> LeviM_: it should, yes
[21:21] <TJ-> LeviM_: assuming there's a correct entry in the file, and the service is listening and has upstream nameservers working
[21:21] <TJ-> nexace: which ubuntu release?
[21:22] <LeviM_> >.< forgot to apt-get update
[21:22] <nexace> Linux instance-1 3.19.0-37-generic #42~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 23 15:13:51 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:22] <TJ-> nexace: so 14.04 Trusty
[21:23] <nexace> yes
[21:23] <TJ-> nexace: what does "ls -ld /var/log /var/log/mail.log" report
[21:23] <nexace> drwxrwxr-x 11 root   syslog 4096 Dec  3 21:15 /var/log
[21:23] <nexace> -rw-r-----  1 syslog adm       0 Dec  3 21:15 /var/log/mail.log
[21:24] <nexace> i touch'd the file which is why it exists
[21:24] <nexace> but when it didn't exist it was posting to create it either
[21:24] <nexace> wasn't i mean
[21:25] <TJ-> nexace: that looks correct. when the file isn't there restarting rsyslogd / syslogd should solve it. I've found when touching the file it upsets it somehow
[21:25] <nexace> ok. i'll give it a shot
[21:26] <TJ-> nexace: try: removing the file. restart the syslog daemon. then restart postfix, in that order
[21:26] <LeviM_> TJ-: Thank you.
[21:26] <LeviM_> It seems to be working.
[21:27] <TJ-> LeviM_: good. Remember if you're building a module on the installed system, kernel build tooling might need telling which kernel to build for since the Live is presumably running an older kernel.
[21:27] <nexace> TJ-: wow, that worked. you are a genius
[21:27] <nexace> TJ-: thanks much
[21:27] <TJ-> nexace: I got caught out like that a few years ago; took me an hour or so to figure it out :)
[21:28] <nexace> was driving me crazy
[21:28] <TJ-> yeah, it did me too
[21:28] <LeviM_> TJ-: Correct. I have a USB to ethernet adapter that I am building the driver for
[21:28] <LeviM_> Once I have *some* internet capability I can do the rest.
[21:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: good :)
[21:29] <TJ-> LeviM_: if you're not aware of it, we make a lot of use of DKMS, it makes module build portability really easy as new kernel versions are installed
[21:30] <Shoes01> nxcom
[21:31] <LeviM_> Yeah, the 4.2 to 4.3 conversion worked.
[21:31] <LeviM_> Just not the 4.2 to 4.4rc3 or 4.3 to 4.4rc3
[21:31] <LeviM_> Which is why I am approaching it so strangely now :)
[21:31] <TJ-> sounds like some rc3 bugs to work out
[21:32] <qu4nt1n> !s star wars rebels s02e08
[21:33] <teward> qu4nt1n: wrong network for that type of stuff
[21:36] <cuddylier> Anyone know why I just see a $ symbol after logging into a Ubuntu user? I used 'useradd [username]' to add the user.
[21:37] <Assad> Hey i am new user of Ubuntu help me about this error ?Error mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/ali/New Volume: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda1" "/media/ali/New Volume"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted The NT
[21:38] <gzcwnk> assad maybe trya  read only mount?
[21:38] <Assad> I am totally new can u tell me the step how to do that thanks :p
[21:39] <k1l_> Assad: turn off the "fast boot" called setting inside windows. it block the windows partitions to be mounted on other OS
[21:39] <Assad> K1l from Bios setting u mean ?
[21:40] <k1l_> Assad: no
[21:40] <anom> Any idea when Ubuntu will run php7 by default?
[21:41] <k1l_> Assad: inside the windows system settings you can set that windows doesnt make a "fast boot" which is sort of a hibernation which blocks the windows partitions
[21:42] <Assad> u mean in windows 8.1 which i have installed
[21:42] <Assad> Change my setting there
[21:43] <k1l_> Assad: yes
[21:43] <Assad> Thanks i try this Brother..
[21:43] <bekks> anom: maybe with the first release after the php7-release.
[21:43] <k1l_> Assad: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[21:47] <ash_work> is there a way to make the terminal have unlimited colums = length of largest line and a horizontal scroll bar?
[21:48] <LeviM_> TJ-: I have networking. Thank you.
[21:49] <TJ-> LeviM_: fab :)
[21:49] <LeviM_> I know it's weird that I've compiled kernels and other stuff and not done bind-mounts, but such is life I guess :D
[21:49] <TJ-> hehehe the Joy of Linux is there's always something new you thought you should have known years ago
[21:50] <TJ-> I still get surprised finding useful tools in coreutils
[22:08] <balazs> Hi, can somebody tell me what's the equivalent of ticking "Use this connection only for resources on its network" when I use nmcli ?cd :q
[22:13] <LeviM_> TJ-: Some things have gone smoothly, hit my next hiccup. Ubuntu doesn't seem to have /etc/mkinitcpio.conf. I need to add two modules on boot, basically. What's the way to do that in Ubuntu?
[22:13] <LeviM_> In Arch I modified that file and regenerated the initrd file from it.
[22:14] <BinaryC011010110> Hello, does anyone know of a free VoIP application? I do not own a phone. Or have money
[22:15] <LeviM_> Ah, is it /etc/initramfs-tools/modules instead?
[22:15] <BinaryC011010110> Aka I need advice
[22:16] <BinaryC011010110> I know nothing about linux...sorry.
[22:18] <k1l_> BinaryC011010110: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VoIP
[22:19] <TJ-> LeviM_: sorry, yes, initramfs-tools
[22:19] <LeviM_> Thanks.
[22:19] <BinaryC011010110> Thanks k1l
[22:19] <TJ-> LeviM_: and then "update-initramfs -u -k <version>"
[22:37] <LeviM_> Okay, I got past a few errors.  Now it gave up waiting for the root device.
[22:37] <LeviM_> How can I check what that root is?
[22:38] <LeviM_> I think I need to set it to /dev/nvme0n1p3 or something odd like this.
[22:40] <loggy__> hi everyone i am using ubuntu with GNOME, how can i set rythbox to appear in top right corner, when i click the battery, volume and wifi settings. I want that there is play, stop next and previouse button. That is by default at ubuntu. I am new in linux.
[22:51] <DexterF> hi
[22:52] <DexterF> Thinkpad with both internal intel GM4500 and a discrete RadeonHD. I added i915 to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and ran sudo update-initramfs -u but still it loads the i915 module
[22:52] <DexterF> how do I make it not?
[22:55] <Guest81606> hi, guys, I have put linux on many once window machines, but I'm having a heck of a time putting it on my laptop. I have linux on a usb and it works on my desktop, but when I put it in my laptop, it shows the things to choose from, like "try ubuntu" etc., I press the try ubuntu, and it goes to a screen with a white box at the top left corner. In other linux installations, the white box fills full real quick and wala we get to linux home
[22:55] <Guest81606> screen. So, what's with the white box in the top left corner and not loading up? This laptop has windows 8.1 on it.
[22:57] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Guest81606 could be this
[22:57] <daftykins> Guest81606: can you tell me which version you're trying on this flash drive? 14.04?
[22:57] <Guest81606> ok thanks!
[22:58] <Guest81606> ya
[22:59] <daftykins> cool :)
[23:00] <Guest81606> yes 14.04
[23:05] <UnwantedAngel> i love ubuntu
[23:05] <UnwantedAngel> much faster than windows 7
[23:05] <daftykins> maybe out of the box ;)
[23:06] <TJ-> LeviM_: did you solve the boot problem? Usually we set the root file-system UUID so it can be discovered no matter what the device node is
[23:06] <LeviM_> I haven't yet.
[23:07] <LeviM_> I know how to do this in the arch loader
[23:07] <hakaz> hey
[23:07] <hakaz> niggaz
[23:07] <LeviM_> grub is a bit different
[23:07] <UnwantedAngel> daftykins, you can run it on small configs that s good
[23:07] <LeviM_> Also, I think it may not be the issue.
[23:07] <LeviM_> I noticed that the i915 firmware failed to load.
[23:07] <daftykins> UnwantedAngel: perhaps, support only in here though please :)
[23:07] <TJ-> LeviM_: "grub-install" (installs the bootstrap/bootloader files) and "update-grub" (writes the /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[23:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: "apt-get install linux-firmware" maybe?
[23:08] <LeviM_> Sure, but it's knowing what to put in the CFG :D
[23:08] <UnwantedAngel> okoknp
[23:08] <UnwantedAngel> =)
[23:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: you don't need to know - Debian/Ubuntu GRUB scripting does it for you, from the scripts in /etc/grub.d/
[23:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: any variables you need to set, do it in /etc/default/grub
[23:08] <LeviM_> Right, but the root= seems to be in several places
[23:08] <LeviM_> In the arch loader it's in one single definition.
[23:09] <DexterF> solved: BISO setting allowed OS to switch between integrated graphics and discrete.
[23:10] <TJ-> LeviM_: the GRUB root= is where GRUB can find its /boot/grub/ and is detected separately to the root file-system, which will usually also use the UUID of the root FS. It'll also take care of ensuring GRUB has the correct modules in its core.img for, if needed, encrypted disks, LVM, dmraid, etc etc
[23:11] <TJ-> LeviM_: if the kernel boots but drops to a busybox prompt in the initrd, that can be because the initrd image lacks some supporting modules/scripts/exectuables to mount the root FS - but those should be auto-detected and installed by the initramfs-tools scripts
[23:13] <LeviM_> Let me finish trying what I'm doing and then when that fails I'll give you a more apt error message.
[23:15] <daftykins> LeviM_: trust TJ- and us, i think you're trying to apply other distro logic and making things harder :)
[23:15] <LeviM_> Perhaps :D
[23:16] <LeviM_> The real issue is that I need the  4.4 kernel and Ubuntu doesn't provide any way to demo it (not even the 16.04 stuff)
[23:16] <TJ-> LeviM_: did you pull in the 4.4rc3 builds from the kernel team PPA archive?
[23:17] <daftykins> yes it does :)
[23:17] <LeviM_> Yes, and it's not booting.
[23:17] <LeviM_> daftykins: as of yesterday the docs said it pulled in 4.3 still
[23:17] <LeviM_> Is that wrong?
[23:17] <TJ-> LeviM_: right, I thought you said you did, but my brain seems to be fried atm
[23:17] <TJ-> LeviM_: no, there is likely bugs in mainline, its only rc3 after all
[23:17] <aldanon> daftykins: hey did you check out your new game? lol
[23:18] <daftykins> are you the one that i saw here 2.5hrs ago saying you were going to mini.iso/server install in order to get a newer kernel from mainline?
[23:18] <daftykins> aldanon: hey :) sorry i got in on my laptop and haven't done much :)
[23:19] <LeviM_> daftykins: Perhaps. The description is a little fuzzy but might match :D
[23:19] <tilpner> Every time after booting, I get several popups about a problem that I can choose to report. If I do so, the system freezes without giving details about what went wrong. How do I go about this?
[23:19] <daftykins> tilpner: read and/or purge the logs from the crash log path
[23:19] <LeviM_> daftykins: So do-release-upgrade from 15.10 to get 16.04 yeah?
[23:20] <daftykins> no i wouldn't do that
[23:20] <predmijat> hi, is it possible to use one disk cache pool LV for multiple disks (origin LVs)? i can't find anything useful...
[23:20] <TJ-> LeviM_: you don't want more instability, you want less :)
[23:21] <LeviM_> Okay, so the UUID thing got sorted.
[23:21] <TJ-> LeviM_: once the 4.4 kernel is released you can install that with 15.10
[23:21] <LeviM_> TJ-: And that is when..?
[23:21] <LeviM_> :D
[23:21] <LeviM_> Okay, so I think the real issue I am hitting is the firmware issue with i915
[23:21] <TJ-> LeviM_: I run the latest release kernels, with 14.04 for example, generally the kernel versions (assuming similar kernel config) isn't too important for userspace
[23:22] <tilpner> daftykins - Does this [ http://termbin.com/i8rq ] ring any bells?
[23:22] <TJ-> LeviM_: when ever Linus decides it is ready for release. The dev period is usually about 3 months, give or take
[23:22] <LeviM_> Yeah, preferably I would like to use my system even if it's unstable until then :D
[23:23] <LeviM_> I think I will just use Arch
[23:23] <TJ-> LeviM_: as the new RCs come out the kernel team will build and publish them, so you can grab those as they appear
[23:23] <LeviM_> I already got that working on this same model on another device.
[23:23] <LeviM_> I just prefer Ubuntu to Arch.
[23:23] <TJ-> different configs maybe. try doing a diff on them
[23:24] <LeviM_> Arch is using systemd's loader.
[23:24] <TJ-> Ubuntu tries to keep the mainline builds configs as close to standard Ubuntu as possible
[23:24] <LeviM_> Not grub.
[23:24] <LeviM_> Oh, that config.
[23:25] <daftykins> tilpner: not much meaning to me, though the end makes me wonder if it's talking about a 'disk usage denial of service' haha, /var/crash being the location of these logs you get a message about on bootup, of course
[23:25] <TJ-> LeviM_: For UEFI the kernel can directly boot without any intervening boot-loader
[23:26] <LeviM_> So, in addition to this new kernel I'll need a newer linux-firmware at some point.
[23:26] <LeviM_> Does Ubuntu update linux-firmware along with the kernel or..?
[23:26] <TJ-> LeviM_: it depends on the device.
[23:26] <daftykins> tilpner: you could indulge my idea with a quick check, if you use a mechanical HDD?
[23:26] <TJ-> LeviM_: can you "lspci -nn" and tell us the device's [Vendor:Device] ID?
[23:27] <TJ-> LeviM_: or use "modinfo -F firmware /path/to/iwl/module.ko"
[23:28] <tilpner> daftykins - I'm not really sure how to check that. Both disks (SSD and HDD) are working fine, AFAICT.
[23:28] <LeviM_> Which line do you want from lspci?
[23:28] <LeviM_> Or did you want the whole thing?
[23:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: the one for the IWL device you need the firmware for
[23:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: or the output from the 'modinfo' command for the module itself
[23:28] <TJ-> The 2nd is more directly useful since it'll give the name of the file it expects
[23:29] <daftykins> tilpner: ah ok, if your OS is on SSD then my idea is less likely; however you would install "smartmontools" and "pastebinit" then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit" (to share it here)
[23:31] <LeviM_> TJ-: I think you are asking for something like brcm/brcmfmac4350-pcie.bin, yeah?
[23:31] <tilpner> daftykins - The tests look fine for both the SSD [ http://termbin.com/vwjv ] and the HDD [ http://termbin.com/n5sg ].
[23:31] <TJ-> LeviM_: errr, if that's the firmware file you're missing. I thought you said it was an Intel iwlwifi firmware that was missing though
[23:32] <LeviM_> No, it's not an Intel firmware. It's Broadcom.
[23:32] <LeviM_> (sadly)
[23:32] <LeviM_> Maybe I should just avoid this and just buy an Intel one? :D
[23:32] <Jan\> how do I find the awstats directories ?
[23:33] <daftykins> Jan\: did you install from a package? repos or PPA?
[23:33] <cnfau> I SEE A LITTLE SILOUETTO OF A MAN SCARAMOUCHE SCARAMOUCHE WILL YOU DO THE FANDANGO THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTNING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING ME GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO MAGNIFICO FIGAROOOOOOOOOH
[23:33] <trzldfm> I SEE A LITTLE SILOUETTO OF A MAN SCARAMOUCHE SCARAMOUCHE WILL YOU DO THE FANDANGO THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTNING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING ME GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO MAGNIFICO FIGAROOOOOOOOOH
[23:33] <maisbdm> I SEE A LITTLE SILOUETTO OF A MAN SCARAMOUCHE SCARAMOUCHE WILL YOU DO THE FANDANGO THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTNING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING ME GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO MAGNIFICO FIGAROOOOOOOOOH
[23:33] <pvurxb> I SEE A LITTLE SILOUETTO OF A MAN SCARAMOUCHE SCARAMOUCHE WILL YOU DO THE FANDANGO THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTNING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING ME GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO MAGNIFICO FIGAROOOOOOOOOH
[23:33] <evsuqs> I SEE A LITTLE SILOUETTO OF A MAN SCARAMOUCHE SCARAMOUCHE WILL YOU DO THE FANDANGO THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTNING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING ME GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO GALIEO MAGNIFICO FIGAROOOOOOOOOH
[23:33] <Jan\> daftykins: using apt-get install awstats
[23:33] <daftykins> tilpner: yeah no problem, though 60 degrees on the SSD is too high
[23:34] <LeviM_> TJ-: But yeah, that is the firmware I am missing
[23:34] <daftykins> Jan\: ok, "dpkg -L awstats" will show you where it installs
[23:34] <tilpner> daftykins - This is a laptop. Could the cause for the high temperature reading be a dedicated GPU running on high load for some time?
[23:35] <Jan\> daftykins: ty
[23:35] <TJ-> LeviM_: get it from here: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/brcm
[23:35] <daftykins> tilpner: definitely, if the two are close
[23:36] <daftykins> tilpner: you have a good amount of clearance between the underside and the desk you use it on?
[23:36] <TJ-> LeviM_: in the cgit web page, to download it, click the "plain" link to the right of the 'blob:' commit ID
[23:37] <LeviM_> TJ-: My understanding is that I need the 4.4 kernel to even see the device
[23:37] <LeviM_> (or something)
[23:37] <TJ-> LeviM_: then put in in /lib/firmware/brcm/
[23:37] <LeviM_> On Arch I had to install the kernel and the firmware.
[23:37] <TJ-> OK, well no harm having the firmware ready to roll
[23:38] <TJ-> if you're dual-booting with Arch you can copy the firmware file from the Arch install
[23:38] <tilpner> daftykins - I should mention that I'm using the proprietary NVidia drivers, and that I can't properly shut down, restart, suspend, etc. without the NVidia GPU activated.
[23:38] <LeviM_> The arch is on another machine but same kind.
[23:38] <Jan\> daftykins: I'm looking for the wwwroot folder but all I see is /usr/share/awstats
[23:38] <LeviM_> I got SSH working so I could copy it over I guess.
[23:38] <daftykins> tilpner: if you clear these crash logs, does it happen again?
[23:38] <TJ-> LeviM_: yes, firmware files are the same whatever the distro/arch
[23:38] <TJ-> LeviM_: 'arch' as in architecture
[23:38] <daftykins> Jan\: well the document root on ubuntu 14.04 server+ is /var/www/html/
[23:39] <LeviM_> Yeah.
[23:39] <daftykins> (with apache)
[23:39] <Jan\> daftykins: no no , the awstats www stuff
[23:39] <tilpner> daftykins - I can't reboot right now, but I'll clear them and see what happens next time. Thank you for your help.
[23:39] <LeviM_> Do I copy the .ko or just certain files?
[23:40] <TJ-> LeviM_: for the firmware? just the brcmfmac4350-pcie.bin
[23:40] <LeviM_> Gotcha.
[23:40] <TJ-> Ubuntu / udevd looks under /lib/firmware/ so whatever relative path the modinfo reports, is where the file should be
[23:41] <daftykins> Jan\: does this package not install files so that you can visit a website hosted on the server with /awstats/ to view them?
[23:41] <regedit> ok please, why the backslash in the nick
[23:41] <regedit> slashes are a very delicate topic in linux world, you know
[23:41] <regedit> :p
[23:43] <Jan\> regedit: to avoid month highlights
[23:43] <ZeeNoodley> i wanted to make a linux vs windows joke but i won't
[23:43] <regedit> month highlights?
[23:43] <aldanon> ZeeNoodley: i don't think i've ever seen one of those disputes here heh
[23:44] <Jan\> regedit:  yes, as in ... time
[23:44] <regedit> whut?
[23:44] <TJ-> Jan\: awstats is installed, its up to you to create a mapping in your web-server's config to use it
[23:44] <regedit> parse failure
[23:44] <Jan\> regedit: doesnt your client have a highlight feature ?
[23:44] <Jan\> TJ-: yes I figured
[23:45] <Jan\> I just didnt know the dirs
[23:45] <daftykins> aldanon: that's 'cause it'd be off topic ;) non-support!
[23:45] <regedit> Jan\: highlighting what? when my nick is mentioned?
[23:45] <LeviM_> TJ-: In a second I'll link an image of my screen.
[23:45] <Jan\> regedit: yes
[23:45] <aldanon> yeap heh
[23:45] <LeviM_> After a failed boot
[23:46] <aldanon> bbl
[23:46] <regedit> Jan\: why do you call that "month" highlights, and what does the backslash do about that
[23:46] <Jan\> regedit: hello, Jan is also short for January
[23:47] <k1l_> he doesnt want false highlights in january
[23:47] <Jan\> see, k1l_ gets it
[23:47] <regedit> ah
[23:48] <LeviM_> Is anyone running 16.04? Can they confirm the kernel version?
[23:48] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Is it possible to extract all the (new) wallpapers from the 16.04/16.10 .iso?
[23:48] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: yes
[23:49] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: And do you know how? ;)
[23:49] <TJ-> Jan\:  example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13654701/
[23:49] <TJ-> LeviM_: I'm on 4.2.0-19-lowlatency
[23:49] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: when they are announced you can get them, yes.
[23:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Oops. I meant from 15.04 and 15.10. XD
[23:51] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: use any app that can extract files from iso
[23:51] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: I need examples.
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Sometimes I forgot what year it is. :|
[23:52] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: sorry ubuntu and linux are not my main OS
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: Oh.
[23:52] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: I use 7-zip
[23:52] <Jan\> 7-zip can do it
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> Uhhhh!
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> I'll try it.
[23:52] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: honestly: just look on omgubuntu :)
[23:53] <Jan\> yeah or any wallpaper site
[23:53] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Jan\: But I like getting things from the source. Aren't uploaded pics often compressed and lossy? :/
[23:54] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: yeah I suppose it depends where you go
[23:54] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: Yeaaah.
[23:55] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO:  I like the naked woman on top the ubuntu logo one, but I'm a guy.
[23:55] <VictoriaXOXO> :|
[23:55] <VictoriaXOXO> Well, I'm a trap/lumberjack, apparently.
[23:55] <Jan\> ???
[23:56] <TJ-> uhoh, here come the Monty Python impersonations!
[23:57] <VictoriaXOXO> What? Someone called me that once. :P
[23:58] <daftykins> amongst other things *cough*
[23:58] <VictoriaXOXO> Behave, draftykins. :o)