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lordievaderGood morning.07:53
sgclarkgood night lol07:54
lordievaderHehe, sleep well sgclark 07:54
sittergrml08:25
sitteryofel: qa.kubuntu will want a distupgrade08:25
sitterfor some reason it is running vivid Oo08:25
sgclarkI am really sleeping, but I am certain he never found clemens to secure that for us.08:27
yofelsitter: I know that, but unless you want to do that I won't get to that before christmas08:56
sitterif the server was cooked I might, but since it isnt :P08:56
sittertrying to bring back kubotu tho08:57
clivejoPlease allow some time for this to be processed.  How long is some time?09:55
excalibrHi. What/where is proper channel to submit bugs report for packages in kubuntu ci ppa?12:16
BluesKajHI folks12:42
excalibrHi BluesKaj 12:47
BluesKajHi excalibr12:47
excalibrBluesKaj, any idea what/where is proper channel to submit bugs report for packages in kubuntu ci ppa?12:47
excalibrIve looked at the their launchpad page but I dont see any bugs reports ever submitted there12:49
BluesKajexcalibr, open dolphin , choose help , then bug and follow the instructions12:49
excalibrokidoki12:58
yofelpackaging bugs, good question.. app bugs go to kde and select "compiled from sources" for the version12:59
batteronizerHi yofel, I followed this guide: http://kate-editor.org/get-it-kde-4-x/ to try build Kate for qt413:20
batteronizerfollowing this, none of the plugins appear including Pate in the plugin manager13:22
batteronizeris there any additional build step to get the plugins?13:26
excalibryofel, where is 'kde'13:27
excalibrbugs.kde.org?13:27
excalibrSOrry this is my first time submitting bugs report in kubuntu13:28
yofelexcalibr: yes, bugs.kde.org. If you use the "Report a bug" menu entry it will send you there as well13:40
yofelbatteronizer: I don't have time to look into their build instructions, but maybe your QT_PLUGIN_PATH isn't set to the correct plugin location13:41
batteronizeryofel: thanks, i'll check that13:42
clivejobatteronizer: were you looking into the JS plugin for kdevelop?13:42
batteronizerclivejo: no, meteor ones for kate13:43
excalibryofel, I hope this is fine https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35627513:44
ubottuKDE bug 356275 in general "akonadi-backend-sqlite requires virtual package qtbase-abi-5-4-2 but libqt5core5a now provides qtbase-abi-5-5-1" [Normal,Unconfirmed]13:44
yofelexcalibr: please close that again, that's a packaging issue13:45
excalibryofel, hmm sorry I can't find 'compile from source'13:48
yofelexcalibr: just close it, that's the wrong place for the bug13:49
excalibrwhere is right place then?13:50
yofelno idea13:50
yofelshadeslayer: did you guys ever set something up?13:50
excalibrOk just marked the report as invalid. I assume thats what you wanted me to do13:50
yofelexcalibr: for now just tell us here which CI ppa you're using, which release and what package version of akonadi-backen-sqlite13:51
yofelsomeone will look at it13:51
excalibryofel, it's kubuntu ci ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable Release is willy. akonadi-backend-sqlite version is 4:15.08.2+git20151112.0037+15.10-013:53
yofelthanks, sorry for the confusion13:55
shadeslayeryofel: set something up for?13:59
yofelshadeslayer: CI bugtracking, or is there any kind of procedure for that other than IRC?13:59
shadeslayernot really14:01
yofelkthx14:04
sgclarkmorning14:19
BluesKaj'Morning14:24
BluesKajsgclark, how long to boot in this morning? ...still almost 3mins here14:28
sgclarkdid not reboot. just opened the lid heh14:30
lordievaderBluesKaj: Could you provide me with the output of 'sudo systemd-analyze blame'?14:34
* yofel uses the bootup time of his office notebook to fetch some coffee every morning14:34
sgclarkOh I did do that blame and it is gpu-manager for me14:37
BluesKajlordievader, already did that, nothing relevant shows 14:38
lordievaderBluesKaj: What is the top offender?14:38
lordievadersgclark: Wasn't that only usefull for hybrid setups? /me has forgotten -.-14:39
sgclarkno clue honestly14:39
BluesKajlordievader, the longes time interval is this ,  2.283s dev-sdg1.device, the rest are in millisecs/ms14:43
BluesKajnothing in 'blame" adds up to almost 3mins14:44
lordievaderSdg? 7 disks?14:44
lordievaderIf you really want to get into it you can allways take a closer look at the 'systemd-analyze plot' output.14:45
BluesKaj3 disks , one internal HDD , one internal SSD and one outboard HDD14:45
BluesKaj14.04 boots in less than 20 secs14:46
lordievaderOdd that one gets assigned sdg... perhaps there is some probing going wrong... causing a lot of timeouts.14:46
yofelcould also be due to the port assignment, my desktop will skip device names if a port has nothing connected to it. (resulting in e.g. sda, sdb, sde, sdf)14:49
yofeland yeah, systemd doesn't seem to be very fast at device detection14:49
yofel(mostly because it's non-greedy)14:49
lordievaderHardware detection in general isn't very fast.14:51
BluesKajthe boot time was very fast for a few days after an upgrade, then it slowed to a crawl after the next upgrade...guess it's some plasma delay bug according to Tj.14:59
BluesKajboth Xenial and Trusty are on the SSD, so I don't think it has much to do with drive detection or even HW for that matter15:01
BluesKajLet's blame systemd ! :-)15:02
BluesKajbbiab15:05
lordievaderSystemd is rather lovely imo.15:34
BluesKajhmm the last upgrade cut my boot time in half...almost :-)15:35
clivejowhat is your boot time BluesKaj?15:36
BluesKaj clivejo a little over 90secs now, it was 3mins this morning15:37
clivejoeakk15:37
BluesKajyreah15:37
clivejomine is 47 seconds from switch on, with a 2 second pause for me to enter password15:38
clivejoslowest part is getting into Plasma15:39
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BluesKajthere's a systemd job running for 90secs in the bootlist15:40
BluesKajdisk search I think.. lordievader might be on the right track here15:40
lordievaderMy boot time, as reported by systemd-analyze, is ~18 seconds of which 4 seconds is due to my slow typing of the luks password ;)15:41
BluesKajbrb, gonna make sure15:41
BluesKajthat boot took 110 secs..." a start job is running for dev-disk", this takes 90secs15:47
BluesKaji have the outboard uuid entry in fstab15:48
sgclarkkubuntu-dev team expired from qt5 uploaders. that seems important16:42
soeewhen can we expect any Plama 5.5 version in xenial or wily ?17:15
sgclarksoon(tm)17:38
sgclarkbut honestly I don't know, things are going to be bumpy while we sort things out.17:39
geniiThe "STILL FAILING" to "Yippee, build fixed!" ratio seems a bit discouraging so far17:41
sgclarkgenii: just build rder failure, actually making progress now17:42
sgclarkorder*17:42
sgclarkbut yes, these debian merges are the current blocker on everything new and shiny. such as life. I have not sorted out how to clone myself.17:43
* genii makes another pot of coffee and passes around the mugs17:44
sgclarkmmm coffee17:45
valorieFolks, anyone thinking about mentoring GCi for KDE, please speak up SOON21:08
valoriethe 7th is looming, and we are short about 100 tasks21:09
sgclarkheh also need GCi for Kubuntu and short task here21:10
valoriesgclark: 75 tasks is the minimum at start of the contest on the 7th21:42
valorieand stephanie suggests we have at least 50 more unpublished to be used on demand21:42
sgclarkah.21:42
valorieand we don't even have 50 yet21:42
valorieso it's crunch time21:42
sgclarkwell we lack mentors.21:42
valorieyes21:43
sgclarkwith my aunt I cannot commit unfortunately.21:43
valorieit seems that you and I are not alone in time-crunch this year21:43
valorieit seems to be everybody, simultaneously21:43
sgclarkthat was not the case when I agreed to Kubuntu being a part of it. Life ...21:43
valorieright21:43
valorielife changes21:43
sgclarkI certainly could use help with debian merges. but alas21:44
sgclarkI could be jumping on a plane tonight, I just don't know21:44
valorieI'm still thinking about Scale21:49
sgclarkI am trying to do that now, I am speaking.. so I probably should show up21:49
sgclarkI think the rooms are gone already though...21:50
valorieif I do decide to go, can we share a room?21:50
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valorieah21:50
sgclarkI don't know. depends what I can get21:50
valorieScottK: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} and how are ya!21:50
valorieok21:50
* ScottK waves.21:51
valorieI can't decide right now, I'm still fraught about my dad21:51
valoriealthough he was good last night21:51
clivejosgclark: who is responsible for QT package in ubuntu?22:10
sgclarkdunno22:10
clivejoI see yofel copied it over for the wily staging ppa22:11
clivejobut xenial is version or two behind22:12
sgclarkoh yeah we nneeded 5.5 for kde22:12
clivejoI think thats why your karch wont build in xenial22:12
sgclarkMirv was doing stuff with qt earlier.22:13
yofelclivejo: Mirv, but he put what we can get for xenial in to the archive22:13
clivejobut I cant get QT to build in xenial22:13
sgclarkqt would stop a package from finding its files? really?22:13
sgclarkI find that odd, but ok, I am not a qt expert by any stretch22:14
clivejosgclark: just a theory, the same package builds in wily22:14
sgclarkyofel: curious, did you put applications in archive? 22:15
sgclarkthere is an important ktp patch that needs to be applied, backported etc22:15
yofelno22:18
yofelgot interrupted with plasma and the wily-applications22:18
sgclarkok cool22:19
clivejonice : http://luisbg.blogalia.com//historias/7601722:32

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