[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:54] <sgclark> good night lol
[07:54] <lordievader> Hehe, sleep well sgclark 
[08:25] <sitter> grml
[08:25] <sitter> yofel: qa.kubuntu will want a distupgrade
[08:25] <sitter> for some reason it is running vivid Oo
[08:27] <sgclark> I am really sleeping, but I am certain he never found clemens to secure that for us.
[08:56] <yofel> sitter: I know that, but unless you want to do that I won't get to that before christmas
[08:56] <sitter> if the server was cooked I might, but since it isnt :P
[08:57] <sitter> trying to bring back kubotu tho
[09:55] <clivejo> Please allow some time for this to be processed.  How long is some time?
[12:16] <excalibr> Hi. What/where is proper channel to submit bugs report for packages in kubuntu ci ppa?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[12:47] <excalibr> Hi BluesKaj 
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hi excalibr
[12:47] <excalibr> BluesKaj, any idea what/where is proper channel to submit bugs report for packages in kubuntu ci ppa?
[12:49] <excalibr> Ive looked at the their launchpad page but I dont see any bugs reports ever submitted there
[12:49] <BluesKaj> excalibr, open dolphin , choose help , then bug and follow the instructions
[12:58] <excalibr> okidoki
[12:59] <yofel> packaging bugs, good question.. app bugs go to kde and select "compiled from sources" for the version
[13:20] <batteronizer> Hi yofel, I followed this guide: http://kate-editor.org/get-it-kde-4-x/ to try build Kate for qt4
[13:22] <batteronizer> following this, none of the plugins appear including Pate in the plugin manager
[13:26] <batteronizer> is there any additional build step to get the plugins?
[13:27] <excalibr> yofel, where is 'kde'
[13:27] <excalibr> bugs.kde.org?
[13:28] <excalibr> SOrry this is my first time submitting bugs report in kubuntu
[13:40] <yofel> excalibr: yes, bugs.kde.org. If you use the "Report a bug" menu entry it will send you there as well
[13:41] <yofel> batteronizer: I don't have time to look into their build instructions, but maybe your QT_PLUGIN_PATH isn't set to the correct plugin location
[13:42] <batteronizer> yofel: thanks, i'll check that
[13:42] <clivejo> batteronizer: were you looking into the JS plugin for kdevelop?
[13:43] <batteronizer> clivejo: no, meteor ones for kate
[13:44] <excalibr> yofel, I hope this is fine https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356275
[13:45] <yofel> excalibr: please close that again, that's a packaging issue
[13:48] <excalibr> yofel, hmm sorry I can't find 'compile from source'
[13:49] <yofel> excalibr: just close it, that's the wrong place for the bug
[13:50] <excalibr> where is right place then?
[13:50] <yofel> no idea
[13:50] <yofel> shadeslayer: did you guys ever set something up?
[13:50] <excalibr> Ok just marked the report as invalid. I assume thats what you wanted me to do
[13:51] <yofel> excalibr: for now just tell us here which CI ppa you're using, which release and what package version of akonadi-backen-sqlite
[13:51] <yofel> someone will look at it
[13:53] <excalibr> yofel, it's kubuntu ci ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable Release is willy. akonadi-backend-sqlite version is 4:15.08.2+git20151112.0037+15.10-0
[13:55] <yofel> thanks, sorry for the confusion
[13:59] <shadeslayer> yofel: set something up for?
[13:59] <yofel> shadeslayer: CI bugtracking, or is there any kind of procedure for that other than IRC?
[14:01] <shadeslayer> not really
[14:04] <yofel> kthx
[14:19] <sgclark> morning
[14:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[14:28] <BluesKaj> sgclark, how long to boot in this morning? ...still almost 3mins here
[14:30] <sgclark> did not reboot. just opened the lid heh
[14:34] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Could you provide me with the output of 'sudo systemd-analyze blame'?
[14:34]  * yofel uses the bootup time of his office notebook to fetch some coffee every morning
[14:37] <sgclark> Oh I did do that blame and it is gpu-manager for me
[14:38] <BluesKaj> lordievader, already did that, nothing relevant shows 
[14:38] <lordievader> BluesKaj: What is the top offender?
[14:39] <lordievader> sgclark: Wasn't that only usefull for hybrid setups? /me has forgotten -.-
[14:39] <sgclark> no clue honestly
[14:43] <BluesKaj> lordievader, the longes time interval is this ,  2.283s dev-sdg1.device, the rest are in millisecs/ms
[14:44] <BluesKaj> nothing in 'blame" adds up to almost 3mins
[14:44] <lordievader> Sdg? 7 disks?
[14:45] <lordievader> If you really want to get into it you can allways take a closer look at the 'systemd-analyze plot' output.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> 3 disks , one internal HDD , one internal SSD and one outboard HDD
[14:46] <BluesKaj> 14.04 boots in less than 20 secs
[14:46] <lordievader> Odd that one gets assigned sdg... perhaps there is some probing going wrong... causing a lot of timeouts.
[14:49] <yofel> could also be due to the port assignment, my desktop will skip device names if a port has nothing connected to it. (resulting in e.g. sda, sdb, sde, sdf)
[14:49] <yofel> and yeah, systemd doesn't seem to be very fast at device detection
[14:49] <yofel> (mostly because it's non-greedy)
[14:51] <lordievader> Hardware detection in general isn't very fast.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> the boot time was very fast for a few days after an upgrade, then it slowed to a crawl after the next upgrade...guess it's some plasma delay bug according to Tj.
[15:01] <BluesKaj> both Xenial and Trusty are on the SSD, so I don't think it has much to do with drive detection or even HW for that matter
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Let's blame systemd ! :-)
[15:05] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[15:34] <lordievader> Systemd is rather lovely imo.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> hmm the last upgrade cut my boot time in half...almost :-)
[15:36] <clivejo> what is your boot time BluesKaj?
[15:37] <BluesKaj>  clivejo a little over 90secs now, it was 3mins this morning
[15:37] <clivejo> eakk
[15:37] <BluesKaj> yreah
[15:38] <clivejo> mine is 47 seconds from switch on, with a 2 second pause for me to enter password
[15:39] <clivejo> slowest part is getting into Plasma
[15:40] <BluesKaj> there's a systemd job running for 90secs in the bootlist
[15:40] <BluesKaj> disk search I think.. lordievader might be on the right track here
[15:41] <lordievader> My boot time, as reported by systemd-analyze, is ~18 seconds of which 4 seconds is due to my slow typing of the luks password ;)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> brb, gonna make sure
[15:47] <BluesKaj> that boot took 110 secs..." a start job is running for dev-disk", this takes 90secs
[15:48] <BluesKaj> i have the outboard uuid entry in fstab
[16:42] <sgclark> kubuntu-dev team expired from qt5 uploaders. that seems important
[17:15] <soee> when can we expect any Plama 5.5 version in xenial or wily ?
[17:38] <sgclark> soon(tm)
[17:39] <sgclark> but honestly I don't know, things are going to be bumpy while we sort things out.
[17:41] <genii> The "STILL FAILING" to "Yippee, build fixed!" ratio seems a bit discouraging so far
[17:42] <sgclark> genii: just build rder failure, actually making progress now
[17:42] <sgclark> order*
[17:43] <sgclark> but yes, these debian merges are the current blocker on everything new and shiny. such as life. I have not sorted out how to clone myself.
[17:44]  * genii makes another pot of coffee and passes around the mugs
[17:45] <sgclark> mmm coffee
[21:08] <valorie> Folks, anyone thinking about mentoring GCi for KDE, please speak up SOON
[21:09] <valorie> the 7th is looming, and we are short about 100 tasks
[21:10] <sgclark> heh also need GCi for Kubuntu and short task here
[21:42] <valorie> sgclark: 75 tasks is the minimum at start of the contest on the 7th
[21:42] <valorie> and stephanie suggests we have at least 50 more unpublished to be used on demand
[21:42] <sgclark> ah.
[21:42] <valorie> and we don't even have 50 yet
[21:42] <valorie> so it's crunch time
[21:42] <sgclark> well we lack mentors.
[21:43] <valorie> yes
[21:43] <sgclark> with my aunt I cannot commit unfortunately.
[21:43] <valorie> it seems that you and I are not alone in time-crunch this year
[21:43] <valorie> it seems to be everybody, simultaneously
[21:43] <sgclark> that was not the case when I agreed to Kubuntu being a part of it. Life ...
[21:43] <valorie> right
[21:43] <valorie> life changes
[21:44] <sgclark> I certainly could use help with debian merges. but alas
[21:44] <sgclark> I could be jumping on a plane tonight, I just don't know
[21:49] <valorie> I'm still thinking about Scale
[21:49] <sgclark> I am trying to do that now, I am speaking.. so I probably should show up
[21:50] <sgclark> I think the rooms are gone already though...
[21:50] <valorie> if I do decide to go, can we share a room?
[21:50] <valorie> ah
[21:50] <sgclark> I don't know. depends what I can get
[21:50] <valorie> ScottK: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} and how are ya!
[21:50] <valorie> ok
[21:51]  * ScottK waves.
[21:51] <valorie> I can't decide right now, I'm still fraught about my dad
[21:51] <valorie> although he was good last night
[22:10] <clivejo> sgclark: who is responsible for QT package in ubuntu?
[22:10] <sgclark> dunno
[22:11] <clivejo> I see yofel copied it over for the wily staging ppa
[22:12] <clivejo> but xenial is version or two behind
[22:12] <sgclark> oh yeah we nneeded 5.5 for kde
[22:12] <clivejo> I think thats why your karch wont build in xenial
[22:13] <sgclark> Mirv was doing stuff with qt earlier.
[22:13] <yofel> clivejo: Mirv, but he put what we can get for xenial in to the archive
[22:13] <clivejo> but I cant get QT to build in xenial
[22:13] <sgclark> qt would stop a package from finding its files? really?
[22:14] <sgclark> I find that odd, but ok, I am not a qt expert by any stretch
[22:14] <clivejo> sgclark: just a theory, the same package builds in wily
[22:15] <sgclark> yofel: curious, did you put applications in archive? 
[22:15] <sgclark> there is an important ktp patch that needs to be applied, backported etc
[22:18] <yofel> no
[22:18] <yofel> got interrupted with plasma and the wily-applications
[22:19] <sgclark> ok cool
[22:32] <clivejo> nice : http://luisbg.blogalia.com//historias/76017