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NoCodewhy is kubuntu using 5gb of RAM? O.o01:19
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Guest56494hello04:01
Guest56494Very different than 14.0404:01
Guest56494Yet very much the same04:01
Guest56494New user here04:02
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denza252lordievader: hi06:07
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lordievaderGood morning.07:53
excalibrAnyone else who have kubuntu-ci ppa added having this problem when trying to install akonadi-backend-sqlite08:29
excalibrThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:29
excalibr akonadi-backend-sqlite : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-4-208:29
excalibrE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.08:29
excalibrHi lordievader o/08:29
lordievaderMorning.08:33
lordievaderWhy do I allways see people with problems with the Kubuntu-CI ppa?08:33
excalibrerm side effect of bleeding edge? :P08:36
lordievaderI suppose.08:37
excalibrlordievader, a search for package qtbase-abi-5-4-2 on packages.ubuntu.com returned zero result. But if you look at the deps list of akonadi-backend-sqlite, qtbase-abi-5-4-2 is there in the list and marked as virtual package. Is this to be expected for virtual package?08:56
lordievaderI don't really know. I'd ask that in #kubuntu-devel, I'08:59
lordievaderm sure they can answer that.08:59
pahi, i am running ubuntu 15.10, but i would like to  install kubuntu-desktop on it. The problem is that if i do, and then run kde, things go wrong and i see a all black desktop09:58
pawhat do i have to delete from the home to reset kde plasma desktop?09:59
pai see there are various stuff in .config10:00
paalso, can i leave lightdm as login manager?10:02
pawhen i tried to install kubuntu-desktop it always tried to replace that10:03
clivejokubuntu uses the sddm login manager10:03
paclivejo, ok, but can i somehow replace it with lightdm?10:06
clivejono idea, never tried that10:09
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hazamonzoHey folks. Tiny UI issue that I can't seem to fix. My tooltips font colour is white, on a light grey background. I tried changing the colour settings in KDE but im not sure I know where the right colours for these tooltips are12:21
hazamonzoAny pointers?12:21
denza242hazamonzo: I'd expect tooltip font is the same color as the normal font12:38
denza242color12:38
hazamonzodenza242: Yeah you would think so but not in my case12:41
hazamonzoI've screenshot it but the screenshot tools doesn't pickup tooltips12:41
denza242weird12:42
denza242hazamonzo: what color palette u using?12:42
BluesKajHI folks12:42
hazamonzodenza242: The default with 15.1012:42
denza242hi BluesKaj I fixed my install12:42
hazamonzoHi BluesKaj12:42
denza242now I just have to reinstall the countless packages I had12:42
hazamonzohmmm12:45
hazamonzoSo i think i found the KDE tooltip colours (i tested it)12:46
hazamonzoBut not my GTK apps12:46
BluesKajhey denza242, hazamonzo12:46
hazamonzoHey hey12:46
hazamonzoSo yeah. Im not sure why but KDE tooltip colours are not the same as GTP app tooltip colours from what i cna tell12:47
hazamonzo*can12:47
hazamonzoTake for example, MySQL Workbench12:47
hazamonzoIm not sure if anyone is using that but you probably have the same tooltip issue as I do if so12:47
hazamonzoHmmm looks like this guy had the same issue and a potential solution http://www.iwillfolo.com/how-to-change-gtk-apps-tooltips-text-and-background-color/12:49
hazamonzoLooks like its a gnome solution though12:52
hazamonzoWell... If anyone has any thoughts then ping me :)12:52
excalibrhazamonzo, which plasma version14:15
hazamonzoexcalibr: Im guessing its version 5 (assuming that is what is shipped with Kubuntu 15.10 ?)14:21
BluesKajhazamonzo, plasmashell -v will tell you the version14:22
hazamonzoahh okay14:23
hazamonzoplasmashell 5.4.214:23
BluesKajright14:24
qaiserhi15:03
BluesKajhi qaiser15:04
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AsachHow do I get rid of KDE Wallet dialogue box popping up everytime? I already have disabled it in settings.. 15.10 version16:47
BluesKajAsach, in system settings>account details>KDE wallet?16:55
AsachYBlueKaj, yes I already have unticked it17:01
BluesKajhave you logged out and in again ?17:04
Asachyes... I eve restarted laptop17:05
denza242is there a way to get keys for PPAs after you add them, or do I have to remove and re-add them18:55
BluesKajno just add the key afterwards and apt update18:56
denza242BluesKaj: how do I add the key :o18:57
lordievaderdenza242: apt-key ;)18:57
lordievaderdenza242: Specifically: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key-id>18:58
BluesKajsudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys xxxxxx18:58
denza242BluesKaj lordievader can I add multiple keys at once?18:58
lordievaderdenza242: Yes, hence the recv-keys and not recv-key ;)18:59
denza242ah18:59
* denza242 wanders off to add the keys18:59
denza242lordievader so this would be the key id, right? "A8AA1FAA3F055C03"19:00
denza242er, a key id19:00
lordievaderLooks like one.19:01
geniiJust use the last 8 characters19:01
BluesKajdenza242, if you got it from the same page as the ppa19:02
denza242I got it from the error messages spit out by apt-get after running update19:02
BluesKajthe key should be listed on the ppa page in launchpad19:03
BluesKajusually in blue text19:04
lordievaderapt-get will also list it after an update.19:05
denza242hmm, now my other problem is, I apparently have broken packages19:07
denza242so I tried to install muon, which said I needed to install libmuon... and well here's what happened (minus the cruft) https://spit.mixtape.moe/view/9c23456419:14
geniidenza242: Looks like whatever PPAs you have are messing up the dependencies19:18
denza242I guess so19:18
* denza242 shrugs19:18
BluesKajroot?? why >19:18
denza242looks like I must bear having to use a command line19:18
BluesKaj?19:19
denza242*for package stuff19:19
BluesKajsudo works19:19
denza242butbutbut19:19
geniidenza242: You could find the deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives and dpkg -i --force-depends them19:19
BluesKajno buts about it19:19
hangman13usguys, anyone with experience of KMail client? I just configured it to work with my accounts but the sorting of e-mails driving me nuts...21:01
hangman13usPM if someone is able to help - 10x21:02
bprompthangman13us:   haven't used kmail myself for quite a while =|21:12
hangman13usbprompt - which mail client you use? I'd like something with MS Outlook functionality (calendar mainly).21:13
bprompthmm I use gmail, just the browser UI for know :)21:14
hangman13usHm, okay.21:14
hangman13usI actually use 5-6 mails (so I thought POP3 might be a good idea).21:15
bpromptI used to use for a while kcheckgmail21:15
hangman13usTo combine few into a single point of access.21:15
bprompthmm21:15
bprompthangman13us:    you know the difference between pop3 and imap, right?21:15
hangman13usYes, I don't want deletion of my mails in the client to be applied online.21:17
hangman13usI think I will spend some more time trying to find a solution to my problem.21:18
hangman13usAnd I may then seek other client21:18
hangman13us:(21:18
bprompthmmm21:20
bprompthangman13us:    with pop3, deletion of mails occur in the mail client only, and the mail server online, is left empty, like picking up mail at  a mailbox, the box is full, you show up, pick it up, the mailbox is empty, and "you" keep the mail in your system21:21
hangman13usOkay so I need IMAP then.21:22
hangman13usThe other option where I use my client independently from the online client.21:23
hangman13usI think that Evolution maybe my thing.21:23
bprompthangman13us:     maybe... anyhow, imap  is, you show up at the mailbox, go through it, delete, read, archive, compose, and when done, the mailbox has all the changes, and the changes will reflect on any device accessing it, because is the same mailbox(server) with your data21:25
bprompthangman13us:    dunno... I use Thunderbird for a bit a while ago, was good21:25
hangman13usIt doesn't have calendar with it.21:26
hangman13us:(21:26
hangman13usI like it.21:26
hangman13usBut now I look at this K-Mail. It doesn't have calendar ether.21:26
bpromptwell21:28
bprompthangman13us:   to be fair, most email cleints don't  =)21:28
bprompthangman13us:    what's the calendar about? you get one in MS Outlook, because  Oulook does email, besides other things, like alarms and scheduling21:29
hangman13usEvolution has. Just reading for it now.21:30
hangman13usMy need is actually to combine e-mails and calendars in one client I can use.21:30
bpromptnow, kde does have a calendar app, check Korganizer, or alarm app, kalarm, there's also a ktimetracker and such, you can check for PIM apps in the kde sections in Muon Software Center21:31
hangman13usso far Evolution seems as the best option for m.21:31
hangman13usso far Evolution seems as the best option for me=21:31
hangman13usso far Evolution seems as the best option for me.21:31
bprompt@echo off21:31
keithzgI guess hangman13us is long gone, but it's worth mentioning for posterity that Kontact combines KMail, KOrganizer and more into a single app; no reason to dismiss them just because they're runnable as separate apps as well!22:45
valoriekeithzg: I think there is a hangman game available23:06
valoriefrom kdegames23:06
valorienot all are ported yet, but they welcome help doing that23:06
keithzgvalorie: Ah no I was talking about the user that was inquiring about mail+calendar applications earlier, heh.23:09
valorieah, the user23:10
valorielol23:11
valoriesorry23:11
valoriehaven't read all my scrollback yet23:11
keithzghehe no problem23:11
valoriekontact has been a PIM suite for a long time23:11
valorielike since kde3 days I believe23:11
keithzgYup, I used it extensively back then.23:11
valorieI used it then23:11
valoriejust kmail though23:11
denza242khangman iirc23:15
denza242bah, minitube still conflicts with the vlc backend for phonon23:21
* keithzg uses youtube-dl as his youtube client ;)23:21
denza242mpv has built in ytdl support now :323:22
ZenManHi I had a problem trying to install kubuntu 15.10,  I did a fresh install and it get to the login screen, i put the correct password in and then it goes blank for a sec and then goes back to the login screen23:22
keithzgZenMan: Not 100% sure it's the cause but that often happens if there's no free space on the partition (or it's mounted read-only for some reason).23:23
ZenMan200gig space, and it is not read only, it is a duel boot23:25
keithzgZenMan: Hmm. Well, lets make sure, try logging into a failsafe session, or press ctrl+alt+f2 or such and log in to a terminal, and run "touch test".23:26
keithzg(You can poke around a bit more in general then too)23:26
ZenManI type in touch test and get nothing23:30
valorieZenMan: maybe in that console do a `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`23:32
valorieto make sure everything is updated23:32
ZenManok but im only on 14.04,  i tried to upgrade to 14.10 but it tries to go to 15.0423:33
valorieany reason you want to stay on 14.04?23:34
valoriehonestly, 15.10 is great23:34
valorieand you said above that's what you installed?23:35
ZenManno, but can upgrade to 14.10 so i can upgrade to 15.1023:35
valoriewell, you'll have to stop by 15.04 that way23:35
ZenManand cant install 15.10 fresh as it just keep me in the login screen and wont go anywhere23:35
valorieI meant in your 15.10 install23:36
valoriego directly to the console rather than logging in23:36
valorieand do that `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` in there23:36
valoriemight fix it23:36
valorieusually does23:36
keithzgZenMan: Yeah, that "touch test" spit nothing back at you means that the filesystem is indeed writable, so valorie's suggestion is definitely the next step.23:37
shutinDoes Kubuntu support different resolutions on multiple monitors? I want to run 1 4k monitor and 2 1920x1080s23:38
keithzgshutin: Yup, different resolutions are most definitely supported (typing from a heterogenous setup like that right now).23:39
keithzgDifferent DPI settings unfortunately isn't possible yet AFAIK, although that's coming with Wayland.23:39
shutingreat! Do you know if you can have different text scaling on those different monitors?23:40
ZenMan0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.23:40
ZenManit might take me time but i will win!  LOL23:40
valoriehmmm23:40
shutinbecause you know, with 4k things can wind up looking very tiny23:40
valorieyou might install backports ppa, ZenMan23:40
valoriesec and I'll get the command23:40
keithzgshutin: No, unfortunately that's the part that hasn't landed yet; the per-display scaling is coming with Wayland which is replacing X11 as the fundamental layer that underlies all GUIs on Linux.23:41
valorieZenMan: `sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`23:41
valoriethen up-arrow and do the update && upgrade again23:41
keithzgshutin: Although that *should* be runnable fairly soon, with some caveats; work on KDE's implementation of Wayland seems to be proceeding at an impressively fast pace!23:42
shutinkeithzg, ah thanks. i knew I had heard something to that effect. The new Fedora 23 has Wayland I believe23:43
ZenMan201 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.23:43
ZenManstep in the right direction23:43
ZenManwell have to go get the wife so i will have to finish this later, thaks for the help23:44
keithzgshutin: Yup, and it's runnable in theory in Kubuntu 15.10 too, I just don't believe it's feature-complete yet in terms of the KDE implementation or the driver support necessarily. But yeah, it's starting to be available, IIRC the next Fedora version is even targetting it being the default.23:45
keithzgshutin: Most of the news comes out of Martin Gräßlin's blog, so you can read up on the latest developments on that front at http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/tag/wayland/23:47
shutinoh cool, thanks!23:47
keithzgNo problem :)23:48
shutinkeithzg, damn, the snow on that page really tripped me out there for a second23:49
keithzgshutin: hehe23:49
shutinit pauses too, if you background the window23:49
keithzgOh hey, that it does.23:50
keithzgHmm, every time KAlarm pops up a message for my coworker on 15.10, Akonadi claims a crash.23:59

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