[01:19] <NoCode> why is kubuntu using 5gb of RAM? O.o
[04:01] <Guest56494> hello
[04:01] <Guest56494> Very different than 14.04
[04:01] <Guest56494> Yet very much the same
[04:02] <Guest56494> New user here
[06:07] <denza252> lordievader: hi
[07:53] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:29] <excalibr> Anyone else who have kubuntu-ci ppa added having this problem when trying to install akonadi-backend-sqlite
[08:29] <excalibr> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:29] <excalibr>  akonadi-backend-sqlite : Depends: qtbase-abi-5-4-2
[08:29] <excalibr> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[08:29] <excalibr> Hi lordievader o/
[08:33] <lordievader> Morning.
[08:33] <lordievader> Why do I allways see people with problems with the Kubuntu-CI ppa?
[08:36] <excalibr> erm side effect of bleeding edge? :P
[08:37] <lordievader> I suppose.
[08:56] <excalibr> lordievader, a search for package qtbase-abi-5-4-2 on packages.ubuntu.com returned zero result. But if you look at the deps list of akonadi-backend-sqlite, qtbase-abi-5-4-2 is there in the list and marked as virtual package. Is this to be expected for virtual package?
[08:59] <lordievader> I don't really know. I'd ask that in #kubuntu-devel, I'
[08:59] <lordievader> m sure they can answer that.
[09:58] <pa> hi, i am running ubuntu 15.10, but i would like to  install kubuntu-desktop on it. The problem is that if i do, and then run kde, things go wrong and i see a all black desktop
[09:59] <pa> what do i have to delete from the home to reset kde plasma desktop?
[10:00] <pa> i see there are various stuff in .config
[10:02] <pa> also, can i leave lightdm as login manager?
[10:03] <pa> when i tried to install kubuntu-desktop it always tried to replace that
[10:03] <clivejo> kubuntu uses the sddm login manager
[10:06] <pa> clivejo, ok, but can i somehow replace it with lightdm?
[10:09] <clivejo> no idea, never tried that
[12:21] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Tiny UI issue that I can't seem to fix. My tooltips font colour is white, on a light grey background. I tried changing the colour settings in KDE but im not sure I know where the right colours for these tooltips are
[12:21] <hazamonzo> Any pointers?
[12:38] <denza242> hazamonzo: I'd expect tooltip font is the same color as the normal font
[12:38] <denza242> color
[12:41] <hazamonzo> denza242: Yeah you would think so but not in my case
[12:41] <hazamonzo> I've screenshot it but the screenshot tools doesn't pickup tooltips
[12:42] <denza242> weird
[12:42] <denza242> hazamonzo: what color palette u using?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[12:42] <hazamonzo> denza242: The default with 15.10
[12:42] <denza242> hi BluesKaj I fixed my install
[12:42] <hazamonzo> Hi BluesKaj
[12:42] <denza242> now I just have to reinstall the countless packages I had
[12:45] <hazamonzo> hmmm
[12:46] <hazamonzo> So i think i found the KDE tooltip colours (i tested it)
[12:46] <hazamonzo> But not my GTK apps
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hey denza242, hazamonzo
[12:46] <hazamonzo> Hey hey
[12:47] <hazamonzo> So yeah. Im not sure why but KDE tooltip colours are not the same as GTP app tooltip colours from what i cna tell
[12:47] <hazamonzo> *can
[12:47] <hazamonzo> Take for example, MySQL Workbench
[12:47] <hazamonzo> Im not sure if anyone is using that but you probably have the same tooltip issue as I do if so
[12:49] <hazamonzo> Hmmm looks like this guy had the same issue and a potential solution http://www.iwillfolo.com/how-to-change-gtk-apps-tooltips-text-and-background-color/
[12:52] <hazamonzo> Looks like its a gnome solution though
[12:52] <hazamonzo> Well... If anyone has any thoughts then ping me :)
[14:15] <excalibr> hazamonzo, which plasma version
[14:21] <hazamonzo> excalibr: Im guessing its version 5 (assuming that is what is shipped with Kubuntu 15.10 ?)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> hazamonzo, plasmashell -v will tell you the version
[14:23] <hazamonzo> ahh okay
[14:23] <hazamonzo> plasmashell 5.4.2
[14:24] <BluesKaj> right
[15:03] <qaiser> hi
[15:04] <BluesKaj> hi qaiser
[15:05] <qaiser> hi
[15:05] <qaiser> blu
[15:06] <qaiser> bye
[16:47] <Asach> How do I get rid of KDE Wallet dialogue box popping up everytime? I already have disabled it in settings.. 15.10 version
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Asach, in system settings>account details>KDE wallet?
[17:01] <Asach> YBlueKaj, yes I already have unticked it
[17:04] <BluesKaj> have you logged out and in again ?
[17:05] <Asach> yes... I eve restarted laptop
[18:55] <denza242> is there a way to get keys for PPAs after you add them, or do I have to remove and re-add them
[18:56] <BluesKaj> no just add the key afterwards and apt update
[18:57] <denza242> BluesKaj: how do I add the key :o
[18:57] <lordievader> denza242: apt-key ;)
[18:58] <lordievader> denza242: Specifically: apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key-id>
[18:58] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys xxxxxx
[18:58] <denza242> BluesKaj lordievader can I add multiple keys at once?
[18:59] <lordievader> denza242: Yes, hence the recv-keys and not recv-key ;)
[18:59] <denza242> ah
[18:59]  * denza242 wanders off to add the keys
[19:00] <denza242> lordievader so this would be the key id, right? "A8AA1FAA3F055C03"
[19:00] <denza242> er, a key id
[19:01] <lordievader> Looks like one.
[19:01] <genii> Just use the last 8 characters
[19:02] <BluesKaj> denza242, if you got it from the same page as the ppa
[19:02] <denza242> I got it from the error messages spit out by apt-get after running update
[19:03] <BluesKaj> the key should be listed on the ppa page in launchpad
[19:04] <BluesKaj> usually in blue text
[19:05] <lordievader> apt-get will also list it after an update.
[19:07] <denza242> hmm, now my other problem is, I apparently have broken packages
[19:14] <denza242> so I tried to install muon, which said I needed to install libmuon... and well here's what happened (minus the cruft) https://spit.mixtape.moe/view/9c234564
[19:18] <genii> denza242: Looks like whatever PPAs you have are messing up the dependencies
[19:18] <denza242> I guess so
[19:18]  * denza242 shrugs
[19:18] <BluesKaj> root?? why >
[19:18] <denza242> looks like I must bear having to use a command line
[19:19] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:19] <denza242> *for package stuff
[19:19] <BluesKaj> sudo works
[19:19] <denza242> butbutbut
[19:19] <genii> denza242: You could find the deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives and dpkg -i --force-depends them
[19:19] <BluesKaj> no buts about it
[21:01] <hangman13us> guys, anyone with experience of KMail client? I just configured it to work with my accounts but the sorting of e-mails driving me nuts...
[21:02] <hangman13us> PM if someone is able to help - 10x
[21:12] <bprompt> hangman13us:   haven't used kmail myself for quite a while =|
[21:13] <hangman13us> bprompt - which mail client you use? I'd like something with MS Outlook functionality (calendar mainly).
[21:14] <bprompt> hmm I use gmail, just the browser UI for know :)
[21:14] <hangman13us> Hm, okay.
[21:15] <hangman13us> I actually use 5-6 mails (so I thought POP3 might be a good idea).
[21:15] <bprompt> I used to use for a while kcheckgmail
[21:15] <hangman13us> To combine few into a single point of access.
[21:15] <bprompt> hmm
[21:15] <bprompt> hangman13us:    you know the difference between pop3 and imap, right?
[21:17] <hangman13us> Yes, I don't want deletion of my mails in the client to be applied online.
[21:18] <hangman13us> I think I will spend some more time trying to find a solution to my problem.
[21:18] <hangman13us> And I may then seek other client
[21:18] <hangman13us> :(
[21:20] <bprompt> hmmm
[21:21] <bprompt> hangman13us:    with pop3, deletion of mails occur in the mail client only, and the mail server online, is left empty, like picking up mail at  a mailbox, the box is full, you show up, pick it up, the mailbox is empty, and "you" keep the mail in your system
[21:22] <hangman13us> Okay so I need IMAP then.
[21:23] <hangman13us> The other option where I use my client independently from the online client.
[21:23] <hangman13us> I think that Evolution maybe my thing.
[21:25] <bprompt> hangman13us:     maybe... anyhow, imap  is, you show up at the mailbox, go through it, delete, read, archive, compose, and when done, the mailbox has all the changes, and the changes will reflect on any device accessing it, because is the same mailbox(server) with your data
[21:25] <bprompt> hangman13us:    dunno... I use Thunderbird for a bit a while ago, was good
[21:26] <hangman13us> It doesn't have calendar with it.
[21:26] <hangman13us> :(
[21:26] <hangman13us> I like it.
[21:26] <hangman13us> But now I look at this K-Mail. It doesn't have calendar ether.
[21:28] <bprompt> well
[21:28] <bprompt> hangman13us:   to be fair, most email cleints don't  =)
[21:29] <bprompt> hangman13us:    what's the calendar about? you get one in MS Outlook, because  Oulook does email, besides other things, like alarms and scheduling
[21:30] <hangman13us> Evolution has. Just reading for it now.
[21:30] <hangman13us> My need is actually to combine e-mails and calendars in one client I can use.
[21:31] <bprompt> now, kde does have a calendar app, check Korganizer, or alarm app, kalarm, there's also a ktimetracker and such, you can check for PIM apps in the kde sections in Muon Software Center
[21:31] <hangman13us> so far Evolution seems as the best option for m.
[21:31] <hangman13us> so far Evolution seems as the best option for me=
[21:31] <hangman13us> so far Evolution seems as the best option for me.
[21:31] <bprompt> @echo off
[22:45] <keithzg> I guess hangman13us is long gone, but it's worth mentioning for posterity that Kontact combines KMail, KOrganizer and more into a single app; no reason to dismiss them just because they're runnable as separate apps as well!
[23:06] <valorie> keithzg: I think there is a hangman game available
[23:06] <valorie> from kdegames
[23:06] <valorie> not all are ported yet, but they welcome help doing that
[23:09] <keithzg> valorie: Ah no I was talking about the user that was inquiring about mail+calendar applications earlier, heh.
[23:10] <valorie> ah, the user
[23:11] <valorie> lol
[23:11] <valorie> sorry
[23:11] <valorie> haven't read all my scrollback yet
[23:11] <keithzg> hehe no problem
[23:11] <valorie> kontact has been a PIM suite for a long time
[23:11] <valorie> like since kde3 days I believe
[23:11] <keithzg> Yup, I used it extensively back then.
[23:11] <valorie> I used it then
[23:11] <valorie> just kmail though
[23:15] <denza242> khangman iirc
[23:21] <denza242> bah, minitube still conflicts with the vlc backend for phonon
[23:21]  * keithzg uses youtube-dl as his youtube client ;)
[23:22] <denza242> mpv has built in ytdl support now :3
[23:22] <ZenMan> Hi I had a problem trying to install kubuntu 15.10,  I did a fresh install and it get to the login screen, i put the correct password in and then it goes blank for a sec and then goes back to the login screen
[23:23] <keithzg> ZenMan: Not 100% sure it's the cause but that often happens if there's no free space on the partition (or it's mounted read-only for some reason).
[23:25] <ZenMan> 200gig space, and it is not read only, it is a duel boot
[23:26] <keithzg> ZenMan: Hmm. Well, lets make sure, try logging into a failsafe session, or press ctrl+alt+f2 or such and log in to a terminal, and run "touch test".
[23:26] <keithzg> (You can poke around a bit more in general then too)
[23:30] <ZenMan> I type in touch test and get nothing
[23:32] <valorie> ZenMan: maybe in that console do a `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[23:32] <valorie> to make sure everything is updated
[23:33] <ZenMan> ok but im only on 14.04,  i tried to upgrade to 14.10 but it tries to go to 15.04
[23:34] <valorie> any reason you want to stay on 14.04?
[23:34] <valorie> honestly, 15.10 is great
[23:35] <valorie> and you said above that's what you installed?
[23:35] <ZenMan> no, but can upgrade to 14.10 so i can upgrade to 15.10
[23:35] <valorie> well, you'll have to stop by 15.04 that way
[23:35] <ZenMan> and cant install 15.10 fresh as it just keep me in the login screen and wont go anywhere
[23:36] <valorie> I meant in your 15.10 install
[23:36] <valorie> go directly to the console rather than logging in
[23:36] <valorie> and do that `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` in there
[23:36] <valorie> might fix it
[23:36] <valorie> usually does
[23:37] <keithzg> ZenMan: Yeah, that "touch test" spit nothing back at you means that the filesystem is indeed writable, so valorie's suggestion is definitely the next step.
[23:38] <shutin> Does Kubuntu support different resolutions on multiple monitors? I want to run 1 4k monitor and 2 1920x1080s
[23:39] <keithzg> shutin: Yup, different resolutions are most definitely supported (typing from a heterogenous setup like that right now).
[23:39] <keithzg> Different DPI settings unfortunately isn't possible yet AFAIK, although that's coming with Wayland.
[23:40] <shutin> great! Do you know if you can have different text scaling on those different monitors?
[23:40] <ZenMan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:40] <ZenMan> it might take me time but i will win!  LOL
[23:40] <valorie> hmmm
[23:40] <shutin> because you know, with 4k things can wind up looking very tiny
[23:40] <valorie> you might install backports ppa, ZenMan
[23:40] <valorie> sec and I'll get the command
[23:41] <keithzg> shutin: No, unfortunately that's the part that hasn't landed yet; the per-display scaling is coming with Wayland which is replacing X11 as the fundamental layer that underlies all GUIs on Linux.
[23:41] <valorie> ZenMan: `sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports`
[23:41] <valorie> then up-arrow and do the update && upgrade again
[23:42] <keithzg> shutin: Although that *should* be runnable fairly soon, with some caveats; work on KDE's implementation of Wayland seems to be proceeding at an impressively fast pace!
[23:43] <shutin> keithzg, ah thanks. i knew I had heard something to that effect. The new Fedora 23 has Wayland I believe
[23:43] <ZenMan> 201 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:43] <ZenMan> step in the right direction
[23:44] <ZenMan> well have to go get the wife so i will have to finish this later, thaks for the help
[23:45] <keithzg> shutin: Yup, and it's runnable in theory in Kubuntu 15.10 too, I just don't believe it's feature-complete yet in terms of the KDE implementation or the driver support necessarily. But yeah, it's starting to be available, IIRC the next Fedora version is even targetting it being the default.
[23:47] <keithzg> shutin: Most of the news comes out of Martin Gräßlin's blog, so you can read up on the latest developments on that front at http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/tag/wayland/
[23:47] <shutin> oh cool, thanks!
[23:48] <keithzg> No problem :)
[23:49] <shutin> keithzg, damn, the snow on that page really tripped me out there for a second
[23:49] <keithzg> shutin: hehe
[23:49] <shutin> it pauses too, if you background the window
[23:50] <keithzg> Oh hey, that it does.
[23:59] <keithzg> Hmm, every time KAlarm pops up a message for my coworker on 15.10, Akonadi claims a crash.