[00:40] OMG huge icons... [05:52] Hello [06:41] good morning [06:42] Good morning [06:42] didrocks: je suis en route :) salut d'Ulm [06:43] Laney: can you please have a look at the autopkgtest stuff today? internet is almost nonexistant here I'm afraid [06:44] hm, is that instance cleanup script a bit overzealous? [06:46] seb128: bonjour ! [06:46] salut pitti! [06:46] I have a funny bug; after yesterday's dist-upgrade my icons on the desktop are now huuuuge [06:47] it's not a bug [06:47] it's GNOME design [06:47] err, wut? [06:47] they made icons bigger so you have a better view of the previews&co [06:48] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748441 [06:48] Gnome bug 748441 in Views: Icon View "Icons too large for Natilus/Files" [Normal,Needinfo] [06:48] hey pitti! bon voyage :) [06:48] hey seb128 [06:48] we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1522316 targetted for xenial [06:48] Ubuntu bug 1522316 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Icons are too big" [High,Triaged] [06:48] lut didrocks [06:49] seb128: ah, merci [06:49] de rien [06:49] there goes my internet again, /me waves [06:49] off to some quiet hacking time :) [06:49] brb, going to go guy something to eat [06:50] yeah, eat a guy already [07:21] good morning! [07:22] Laney: argh, silly me -- the cron job was "* */6", that's why it runs every minute; fixed to "0 */6" now [07:23] hey larsu! [07:24] hey larsu [07:29] guten morgen & bonjour pitti & didrocks! [07:55] Morning [08:09] hey Trevinho larsu [08:09] happy friday! [08:09] how are you doing? [08:21] hi seb128 [08:22] happy friday too :-) [08:22] Well, still the same... BTW seb128 I heard we'll meet in London in a week or so ;-( [08:22] err ;-) [08:22] yeah :-) [08:22] going to be in London next thursday === fredp is now known as Guest75166 [08:47] good morning [08:50] I need to completely restrict users (except a certain group) from accessing the cdrom [08:50] I tried removing the "uaccess" tag in udev from all ID_CDROM devices, so the access is limited to members of the cdrom group [08:51] but the cds still get automounted without checking access to the device [08:51] do you have any idea how to achieve this? [08:57] morning [08:59] hey willcooke [09:01] good morning willcooke [09:02] morning! [09:03] hey Laney [09:03] hey seb128, happy friday! [09:03] thanks, you too! [09:04] what's happening in london? [09:05] Laney is curious [09:05] :-) [09:05] in the "always wanting to know what's going on" sense [09:05] Laney, Trevinho is visiting people and spending a week there, going to from the office it looks like [09:05] hey Laney [09:05] secret trips [09:06] ahoy didrocks [09:06] Laney, I and willcooke are going for a day to talk to design about theme, headerbars, etc [09:06] you should maybe come [09:06] easy train trip for you? [09:06] thursday [09:08] hmmmm [09:09] I guess I would have been invited if I was wanted [09:09] just do the right thing! [09:10] yeah, I'm undecided [09:11] balancing between "just ship what upstream is doing" and "we have most of the work done to keep things consistent so might as well stick to that for the lts" [09:11] Laney, of course you are welcome to come down if you like [09:11] it's also Christmas do that day [09:12] I was not expecting the nautilus menubar patch to be that much work for example though [09:34] * Laney gets a ubuntu-meta s390x build failure [09:34] XNOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX [09:34] +X? [09:35] XxXxX [09:36] hum… [09:36] I probably made a mistake on the seed as well [09:36] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/xenial-desktop-amd64.manifest [09:37] russian anyone? :) [09:37] good language [09:38] * didrocks looks at the Languages: variable subtitution syntax [09:38] did I make a booboo? [09:38] how come you didn't upload ubuntu-meta? [09:38] ah [09:38] no comma :) [09:38] oh live only? [09:38] Laney: live only, yeah ;) [09:38] Laney: do you want to request a new build after I push my fix? [09:39] need to wait for germinate to run [09:39] tell me when apt-cache show pkg | grep Task is right [09:39] oh? that's not part of the biuld itself? [09:39] ok :) [09:41] committed, let's wait for a germinate run :p [09:42] * didrocks whistles, that was a collector image :p [09:45] now what happened to the poppler migration :( [09:48] Laney: xnox is hard core surely it should be XNOxXx [09:49] hey Laney, good morning [09:55] hey pitti! [09:55] how's it going? [09:59] pitti: any idea what happened to blacklist on worker.conf on the armhf cyclops nodes? [10:00] apw just noticed that they are dead "ConfigParser.NoOptionError: No option 'blacklist' in section: 'autopkgtest'" [10:03] pitti: ah right, I can't read git blame, this is new [10:03] I'm going to add a default, scream quickly if I shouldn't [10:15] no scream: done :) [10:24] how come more poppler packages showed up? [10:24] tex wasn't there yesterday [10:37] Laney: do you know if germinate is cronned or anything? (or if I can get the info myself :p) [10:38] it is, or part of the publisher, or something [10:38] I have lp:ubuntu-archive-publishing in my brain [10:38] might be wrong th ough [10:38] let me have a lookg [10:38] as last run is still this morning http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.xenial/ [10:40] hum, no germinate wrapper script hook in publish-distro.d/ [10:40] think that is a different one [10:40] ah? [10:40] well, otherwise, that can wait over the next official run and check on Monday [10:40] hey seb128! [10:40] (was at dentist) [10:40] just wanted to have that looked a little bit earlier as it's in my mind [10:41] look in apt-cache show pkg [10:41] if you use chdist on snakefruit that is the most up to date [10:41] yeah, still nothing after ~1h [10:41] ah, good idea [10:41] * didrocks does [10:42] laney@snakefruit:~$ sudo -u ubuntu-archive chdist apt-cache xenial-amd64 show myspell-en-za | grep Task [10:42] Task: ubuntu-live [10:42] heeeeeeey larsuuuuuuuuuuuuu [10:43] Laney: yep, confirmed (with language-pack-fr, the most important of them!) [10:43] Laney: mind kicking a kind build? :p [10:43] (or even, an excellent one as it will have moarrrrr languages!) [10:43] ok going [10:44] thanks Laney ;) [10:44] let's see the size increase! [10:44] oooooOOOOOOOO [10:44] :) [10:45] morning Laney! [10:45] how's things? happy Friday! [10:45] good, I can see blue sky for the first time in weeks! and friday! [10:45] off to wales tonight [10:46] Laney: give it back to us! [10:46] the radio just said that this november was the dullest in 84 (or so) years [10:46] Laney: it's not kind for pitti to have stolen it ;) [10:46] wait, is he offline travelling to you? [10:47] yep! [10:47] it all fits together! [10:47] well, I guess he can fetch some network at train stations :) [10:47] it's raining in Wales till March Laney ... or 2025 - who knows it's Wales [10:47] (if the train is slowwwwwwww or stopped) [10:47] flocculant: we looked at the mountain top forecast for cadair idris [10:47] looked like we would be blown off the top [10:48] going to pack the kite [10:48] larsu: how are you? good dentist? [10:48] :) [10:48] Laney: happy kit(ting?) :p [10:49] Laney: no :( [10:49] :/ [10:49] Laney: well, the dentist is good. What he told me isn't [10:49] (he's actually *very* nice) [10:49] * larsu needs 2 fillings replaced [10:50] urgh, I can imagine this isn't pleasant [10:50] would be better if we could walk this though https://picasaweb.google.com/103348567853548254004/20090503WALKCadairIdrisTheMinfforddPath#5403584357595279378 [10:50] Laney: nice! [10:50] larsu: oh :/ [10:55] ooh totem patch from 6 months ago was committed \o/ [10:56] ^_^ [11:14] mvo: are those snappy processes of yours on cady (porter-armhf) in use? [11:14] the box is slammed and it looks like they might be stale [11:27] Laney: let me kill them [11:28] woot [11:28] * Laney has contributed to the load meanwhile [11:28] Laney: I just tried to build snappy there [11:28] ah looked like they were a few days old [11:29] if they are still useful then don't kill :) [11:30] Laney: they are not useful but also not killable it seems, tried kill -9 no luck [11:30] we have an iso (and so, went from 1.2 to 1.3 Gb, as planned) \o/ [11:31] * didrocks goes back to plymouth, will do those tests next week [11:33] mvo: oh noes, maybe we'll need to ask IS [11:33] mvo: also, how rude of me, hi and happy friday :) [11:43] Laney, i will do meta, once everything finished building. [11:43] Laney, it shouldn't affect migration. [11:43] Laney, i tried to look at poopler and couldn't figure it out. we seem to have a lot of things in proposed. [11:44] hi xnox [11:45] =) [11:45] happy friday to you too [11:45] I just looked at poppler and chatted some shit about it in #release [11:45] how on earth can there be a component mismatch with qtbase? [11:45] wait [11:45] SILO! [11:46] * Laney huffs [11:48] xnox: so the old version in bootstrap is minorly annoying [11:48] can you bump it in there so that we don't get any more things built against the old soname before we fix the archive? [11:51] Mirv: hi, looks like publicsuffix needs MIR https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.5.1+dfsg-6ubuntu1/+build/8388165 [11:52] Laney, sorry, no. We did stage as many abi transitions possible, but there was a gap. And our 28 builders are so good that they keep chugging away building things, with old abi, in -release pocket. [11:52] yes well if you bump it then nothing more gets broken [11:52] before then we have to get mir, build qt, build poppler [11:52] Laney, if there is transition tracker, or arch skew, i shall be fixing it..... [11:52] which is pretty seriously annoying given that it was nearly migrated yesterday [11:53] and libreoffice is affected too [11:53] awesome [11:54] Laney, poppler was done on 22nd november.... i'm confused as to how we missed it =( [11:54] haha, we can't cause it doesn't build on s390x. [11:54] yet. [11:54] sigh, i shall fix it. [11:55] like a real failure? [11:55] there were almost no changes vs the previous version [11:58] well, silos building against universe... and i'm having uninstallable qtbase5-dev on s390x.... my stuff. [12:00] Laney: thank you [12:09] hello o/ [12:09] I've noticed ubuntu-desktop-next pulls in system-image-cli [12:09] on desktop [12:10] as a consequence, calling add-apt-repository on desktop prints usage msg from system-image-cli multiple times [12:30] Laney: I didn't tell you the fun part about this plymouth merge… [12:30] upstream changed it's spacing syntax from 2 spaces to 8 [12:30] you can imagine how fun it is with our number of patches :p [12:31] * Laney cries for you [12:32] thanks ;) [12:45] didrocks, i remember doing something crazy. there is gnu tool to reformat patches indentation, and then use whitespace ignore diff to figure out things. [12:46] xnox: I'm just using sed, works quite well :p [12:46] especially for this "misc_patches" [12:46] basically, all undocumented things that went in year after year :) [12:47] didrocks, oh that one, yeah it is crazy patch "keybuk did things..." [12:47] (also, most of patches are not documented, even if separated) [12:47] xnox: yeah, with debian versions… [12:47] just to make the merge even more confusing :p [12:49] that was a Keybuk thing [12:49] "we are upstream for this package, the version namespace is ours" [12:51] yeah, not nice :/ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:29] I'm amazed by the number of uploads without description (like why this patch has been disabled and such?) === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [13:37] didrocks: can you remove openmw and binaries from xenial-proposed please? [13:37] borked on armhf, want to upload a rebuild of the old version [13:42] Laney: sure, you meant source and binaries? [13:43] yep [13:44] Laney: done! [13:44] merci! [13:45] de rien :) [13:46] food time [13:52] * didrocks goes to fetch pitti at the train station [13:54] didrocks: say hi to him! === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [15:28] larsu: done :p [15:29] hello desktopians [15:32] ahoy desrt [15:32] how's dconf? [15:33] hey didrocks and pitti [15:40] hey desrt :) re Laney! [15:40] Laney: stuff is changing! [15:41] gsettingsbackend is being ripped up fairly good [15:41] hopefully not too much breaks :) [15:45] ça va mes amis ! [15:46] mon internet est cassé, il parle français maintenant ! [15:46] * pitti donne une accolade à didrocks [15:46] * didrocks donne une accolade également [15:46] didrocks is always showing off about his fast internet [15:46] you should download all the linux isos [15:46] Laney: "I'm going to add a default" -> what? where? how? [15:46] see autopkgtest-cloud [15:48] Laney: linux isos? still ENOCLUE :/ [15:48] https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/commit/?id=90d85a52a52360521a7f749bca090d8f53b1aa43 [15:49] Laney: aah, I see; where did I forget to set it? [15:49] worker.conf for armhf [15:49] Laney: argh, thanks for that [15:49] thank apw for noticing, I just monkeyed up this :) [15:50] they were down overnight so the armhf queue was about 1300 this morning [15:50] exciting! [15:50] Laney: yeah, go glibc :) [15:55] good thing is we have another qtbase upload coming! [15:55] * Laney hopes xnox does it before the weekend [15:56] so that 9999 kde tests can happen in time for monday [15:56] Laney, .... yes..... [15:57] * Laney snuggles xnox [15:57] I never doubted you [15:57] rooibos time [15:57] Laney, i am in conference calls, but yeah, fiddling things. [15:57] the life of a customer facing engineer eh [15:57] Laney: ok, any fires to be put out by me still? [15:58] I'm not aware of anything right now other than the queues being achingly long of course [15:58] pitti: there are some alerts, no idea about most of them [15:59] I briefly checked, looks like the usual noise [15:59] that noise for sure needs to be addresed, but not ona Friday evening [15:59] timeouts and random stuff [15:59] I didn't think it was anything OMG worthy [16:00] so would have deleted pending.txt but that doesn't seem to exist any more [16:00] right [16:00] glibc is only a small change [16:00] and it has quite some green [16:00] I'm almost tempted to hint it in and flush the queus [16:00] Laney: pending.json now indeed [16:00] can rm that one? [16:00] Laney: no, please don't [16:01] Laney: britney will re-request all 2.000 tests again [16:01] pitti: well then :) [16:01] Laney: you can remove individual tests from it if you care, of course [16:01] but either we let the glibc/qt flood settle down, or we hint it through and flush [16:01] do you have a way to flush just the glibc ones? [16:02] if you want to hint it in [16:02] Laney: no, I don't [16:02] Laney: in that case, it's (1) flush all queues, (2) remove pending.json [16:02] and britney will just re-request the other ones [16:02] after force-skiptest I presume [16:02] yes [16:03] is the trigger in the amqp queue? [16:03] yes [16:03] you can see it on running.html [16:03] yeah didn't know if that was retrieved out of band somehow [16:03] but while it's trivial to flush all requests, it requires code to filter out the glibc ones [16:03] so you could do something similar to running.shtml but ack those ones [16:03] right [16:04] but honestly, full flush and rm pending.json is simpler and safer [16:04] seems annoying to have to remember to come back later [16:06] Laney: I'm not sure which way around the hints are processed [16:06] Laney: if force-skiptest is looked at before requesting tests, then we can hint and flush at the same time [16:06] that seems worht writing a test for, and fix if it doesn't DTRT [16:08] Laney: filed bug 1522893 for that [16:08] bug 1522893 in Auto Package Testing "Ensure to check hints before issuing requests" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1522893 [16:08] but this time I'll just wait the ten minutes, Friday evening and all :) [16:12] :) [16:17] Depends: glibc linux [16:18] le what?? [16:18] versioned linux-libc-dev or whatnot? [16:23] Laney: dang, I wrote the test case, and it does request tests even with a force-skiptest [16:23] * pitti cecks how difficult that is to fix [16:24] it seems elegant to me to have force-skiptest cancel the outstanding requests [16:26] but I don't know how robust the read-and-ack implementation would be [16:27] Laney: britney can't do that, it's not allowed to consume AMQP requests ATM [16:27] we could relax that of course, but meh fiddly [16:27] for now I just want to fix it to not issue new requests for force-skiptests [16:27] it's not entirely trivial, but I'm currently looking at it, should not be too hard either [16:30] pitti: OK then, that sounds like a good improvement anyway [16:43] ÇA MARCHE ! [16:45] Laney: ^ pushing the fix [16:47] and britney just copied the kernel and glibc [16:47] so whatever :) [16:47] (that was before my fix even) [16:48] so I blame any breakage on apw now, on the new linux 4.3 kernel [16:51] \o/ [16:51] lovely [16:52] Laney: ok, all done, next britney run ought to re-queue stuff [16:52] xnox: right, you were waiting on that glibc [16:53] but e.g. zipl-installer was not copied over. [16:53] right in time for EOW :) [16:53] i wonder if i will need to ask to hint all the s390 d-i stuff to go in together.... [16:53] xnox: btw, what's your ETA for the MIRs? [16:53] (you shamelessy squeezed the queue :p) [16:55] didrocks, ASAP. they are all built now, but not yet migrated to release. [16:55] didrocks, when they migrate to release, i'll be very sad on monday, if there is no progress on them =( [16:55] didrocks, i filed out the form dully and to the best of my knowledge, all build correctly, and e.g. foundations bugs are subscribed. [16:55] xnox: ok, will add some to the list and try to do some early next week :) [16:55] didrocks, most of the packages are tiny, the s390-tools & libpfm4 are the only big ones =) [16:56] didrocks, yeah, sounds lovely =) [16:56] xnox: just remind me on Monday if you will [16:56] (just in case I'm side-tracked) [16:58] didrocks, well, i should migrate them and procrastinate a bit, then i'll remind you about them ;-) [17:00] heh ;) === fredp is now known as Guest39198 [17:26] happy weekends! [17:26] * Laney zzzzzzzzzooms to wales [17:27] Careful, there are Welsh there! [17:30] * pitti waves good bye, have a nice weekend everyone! [17:31] see you on Monday pitti! [17:31] hem, WAIT! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW [18:07] g'night all, happy weekends [18:52] grrrrr new nautilus has silly sized folders on 4k and stupid meter bar does go away on the launcher icon even though it finished the transfer :( [18:59] davmor2, your problem seems to be with a 4k display, rather than nautilus. have you tried using a different screen? [19:00] * xnox ponders if i will regret ordering a 4k display [19:00] xnox: it's big on the 1080p screen too [19:01] davmor2, sorry i cannot see any icons, i'm in drowing in virtual punchcard tapes here =) [19:03] xnox: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/big-new-nautilus.png [19:04] davmor2, oh that's normal [19:04] davmor2, you should see fedora, they had that pain for 1 or 2 releases now. [19:04] davmor2, there is a butoon in top right to make things smaller. [19:05] xnox: yes but that is hideously big icons [19:05] davmor2, CONVERGENCE =) [19:05] xnox: no it isn't that is just ugly [19:05] davmor2, i'ts lovely on touch screens, and people with bad eye sight [19:05] davmor2, how dare you speak against fedora technical commitee =))))))) [19:06] xnox: the 4k is a touch screen and not it isn't ;) [19:06] i know, i think we can change the default size in gsettings overrides?! [19:06] cause it must be gsettings driver. [19:06] cause it must be gsettings driven. [19:06] * xnox is on wily [19:07] xnox: wuss, xenial or it's dead to me, until I need to test 14.04.4 obviously then xenial is dead to me too ;) === mcs_ is now known as Guest52689