| TheHorribleBear_ | anybody has long-time experience with ubuntu touch? I don't like android. I never liked it. The only mobile OS I hate more is iOS. So I want to try Ubuntu Touch (firefox os is dead i think). whats about the bootloader? am I able to install another os too if I want? do i have root? when i program an terminal application for debian, does it run on ubuntu touch then? | 01:02 |
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| k1l_ | bootloader depends on device, but that should be open since they are android devices basically. | 01:11 |
| k1l_ | so if there is another OS that was build for that device it should be able to be installed. | 01:11 |
| k1l_ | there are some bq android users who installed ubuntu-touch and vice versa. | 01:12 |
| k1l_ | you have "root" | 01:12 |
| k1l_ | ubuntu-touch works with click packages. you can make its system parition rw and use apt-get but that is more a plan b than the ubuntu-touch smartphone way | 01:13 |
| k1l_ | TheHorribleBear_: since you got a .at ip take a look at ubuntuusers.de there are some articles in the wiki and some users with phones in the forums. | 01:14 |
| TheHorribleBear_ | k1l_: yeah but android smartphones normally have a closed bootloader. and whats about updates? is it like on android where you don't get updates if you have a mediatek cpu for instance? | 01:14 |
| TheHorribleBear_ | ok i will look. thanks | 01:15 |
| k1l_ | they just shipped OTA update 8 for all ubuntu devices. and OTA9 is scheduled for january iirc | 01:15 |
| TheHorribleBear_ | k1l_: ok thank you | 01:17 |
| TheHorribleBear_ | looks like ubuntu touch is a nice and "open" OS | 01:17 |
| k1l_ | its really open source | 01:17 |
| TheHorribleBear_ | k1l_: yeah I know. I also like the root rights on ubuntu touch. thats one of the things i hate on android. it feels like a jail | 01:19 |
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| RMJ | Hi there, anyone know if you can reduce the mic volume? My wife has complained I'm very loud on a call! | 07:37 |
| zzarr | hello, do the proposed channel have support for bluetooth? | 08:03 |
| zzarr | I read that OTA-9 will have, but it is released 2016-01-22 (yyyy-mm-dd) | 08:05 |
| JanC | zzarr: what do you mean with "support for bluetooth"? | 08:10 |
| seb128 | zzarr, hey, what do you mean "support for bluetooth"? there is bluetooth support for a long time | 08:10 |
| JanC | LOL | 08:11 |
| seb128 | ota9 is going to have bluez5 and some improvements though | 08:11 |
| zzarr | QtBluetooth | 08:11 |
| RMJ | Bluetooth does work atm but yes it is a bit flaky | 08:12 |
| zzarr | I can't load the bluetooth module with "QT += bluetooth" (it works for other platforms like desktop) | 08:12 |
| RMJ | Anyone know how to reduce the mic volume? | 08:12 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:13 |
| zzarr | good morning | 08:13 |
| zzarr | will OTA-9 use Qt 5.5.1? | 08:16 |
| zzarr | RMJ, I get this error when I try to use bluetooth "Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: bluetooth" (when I write "QT += bluetooth" in the .pro file) | 09:31 |
| RMJ | I'm using N4, how are you starting bluetooth to see this error? | 09:33 |
| zzarr | I tried to install "qtconnectivity5-dev" in the kit, but it have unmet dependencies | 09:33 |
| zzarr | ("qtbase5-dev") | 09:34 |
| RMJ | The bluetooth sometimes only works after a reboot for me and it does not connect to every BT device I have | 09:34 |
| RMJ | oh ok, I'm not that advanced, I'm just using OTA8 as stock | 09:34 |
| zzarr | hmm... I think we are talking past each other | 09:35 |
| RMJ | It works with a Logitech M557 BT mouse which starts desktop mode | 09:35 |
| zzarr | I'm talking about developing an app using bluetooth, it works on my phone | 09:35 |
| RMJ | sry | 09:35 |
| zzarr | no problem, thanks for trying to help me :) | 09:36 |
| RMJ | np | 09:36 |
| RMJ | as ppl have said the next update should be a big improvement for bluetooth on the devices | 09:37 |
| zzarr | yes :) | 09:39 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Wildlife Conservation Day! 😃 | 09:52 |
| robin-hero | hey all, I've just read it in the Landing mail there's a new Camera app in the yesterday's image, but this update hasn't arrived for me yet. | 10:04 |
| robin-hero | Hey sil2100, I have a question. I there will be an OTA-8.5 update, it will be include all changes which are fix released in ww02-16 buglist or it will be only include the ww50-15 buglist? I hope you are understand me :) | 10:10 |
| sil2100 | robin-hero: hello! ww50-2015 is the milestone for the OTA-8.5 hotfix release, so not really too many changes but high-importance ones | 10:12 |
| sil2100 | The list is not complete yet though | 10:12 |
| sil2100 | So there might be more/less bugs in it when the final release happens | 10:12 |
| robin-hero | So wee need to wait the OTA-9 for the "custom ringtone" feature, right? | 10:13 |
| mmmcandy | robin-hero, or change to rc-proposed channel | 10:16 |
| sil2100 | robin-hero: yeah :) | 10:17 |
| sil2100 | Well, officially we do not recommend the rc-proposed channel end-user phones | 10:18 |
| sil2100 | Use at your own risk, we had already a few cases where some images didn't boot for various reasons | 10:18 |
| robin-hero | mmmcandy, sil2100 I've already use the rc-proposed channel :) | 10:26 |
| robin-hero | sil2100, Thanks | 10:26 |
| bad | ASSERT: "!isEmpty()" in file /usr/ubuntu-sdk-dev/include/QtCore/qlist.h, line 292 | 10:35 |
| bad | what can i do against this mistake? | 10:35 |
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| Guest71231 | can anyone help me w? | 10:36 |
| Guest71231 | ASSERT: "!isEmpty()" in file /usr/ubuntu-sdk-dev/include/QtCore/qlist.h, line 292 | 10:41 |
| Guest71231 | i get this error | 10:41 |
| Guest71231 | what can i do? | 10:41 |
| Guest71231 | is there any developer online? | 10:55 |
| ogra_ | Guest71231, try #ubuntu-app-devel | 10:58 |
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| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-8-5-hotfix-should-arrive-for-all-ubuntu-phone-users-soon-497110.shtml | 11:59 |
| jibel | sil2100, ^ it's your fault again :) | 12:13 |
| ogra_ | we should just switch to 3 week release cycles :P | 12:14 |
| sil2100 | I... uhh... | 12:35 |
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| lotuspsychje | lol | 12:43 |
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| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/first-night-clock-app-released-for-ubuntu-phones-available-now-for-free-497115.shtml | 13:11 |
| lotuspsychje | nice1 | 13:11 |
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| sergiusens | ogra_, are you aware of any bug open for rc-proposed where any app wanting to use location (through network-manager) gets appamor blocked | 15:08 |
| sergiusens | ? | 15:08 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, nope, i guess tvoss would know though | 15:09 |
| sergiusens | maybe jibel ? | 15:09 |
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| sergiusens | ogra_, how do I go backwards using system-image-cli ? | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | i dont thik thats possible | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | you could go to stable | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | that would go backwards | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | with --switch | 15:17 |
| jibel | sergiusens, I am not aware of such bugs. | 15:21 |
| jibel | davmor2, ^ do you know? | 15:22 |
| davmor2 | nope | 15:22 |
| jibel | sergiusens, you get apparmor denials in syslog? | 15:22 |
| sergiusens | jibel, davmor2 I updated this morning and now osmtouch, activitytracker and others have a denial on "send" to network manager | 15:32 |
| sergiusens | oh, clock also fails | 15:32 |
| abeato | Laney, we would like to sync gstreamer in the overlay (1.6), would it be possible to upload designated packages to silo 41? | 15:38 |
| davmor2 | sergiusens: nothing has changed with network manager or location service till the dbus fix lands and is put into an image | 15:38 |
| sergiusens | davmor2, meh; maybe a reboot helps; do you know how to go to revision -1 from system-image-cli? or if not, which one is the stable channel for arale? | 15:39 |
| dobey | sergiusens, ogra_: you can also specify a revison to system-image-cli i think | 15:40 |
| dobey | sergiusens: -b $NUMBER (but can't do relative numbers i don't think) | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | hmm, i think you need -b0 then to reset the base and get a full reinstall | 15:40 |
| dobey | so if you're on 8, you could do -b 7 | 15:41 |
| davmor2 | sergiusens: just done fresh flashes of latest on arale and krillin and both open clock and correctly ask for location and get one | 15:41 |
| sergiusens | dobey, yeah, but I can't do full flash with -b unless it is 0 :-/ | 15:41 |
| davmor2 | sergiusens: yes thanks :) | 15:41 |
| Laney | abeato: ok which packages? | 15:41 |
| sergiusens | davmor2, right, I'm on a running system for like over 6 months | 15:41 |
| sergiusens | davmor2, feels like I'm on Windows and the format days are back :-P | 15:42 |
| abeato | Laney, gstreamer1.0, plugins-base, good, bad | 15:42 |
| dobey | sergiusens: you mean just use the full size image, rather than reverse applying the xdelta? | 15:42 |
| Laney | ugly? | 15:42 |
| Laney | you have amr no? | 15:42 |
| davmor2 | sergiusens: you always have windows or you live in a cave | 15:42 |
| abeato | Laney, you are right, for amr | 15:42 |
| sergiusens | davmor2, I'm an overgrown hobbit! | 15:43 |
| Laney | ok | 15:43 |
| Laney | I forgot what the rules are for versioning | 15:43 |
| Laney | sil2100: remind me what the right convention for overlay backport versioning is please? | 15:43 |
| davmor2 | sergiusens: they had windows too :p might just be a rogue config or something, do you have anything installed from the archive that could affect the system? | 15:44 |
| sergiusens | davmor2, so in any case, what is the stable channel for arale? the docs say to use ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu | 15:45 |
| sergiusens | but that feels outdated | 15:45 |
| sil2100 | Laney: hey, we use a very simple and no-brainer one usually - just appending ~overlay1/2/3.. to the end | 15:46 |
| Laney | ok | 15:46 |
| sergiusens | sil2100, which one is the stable channel for arale? | 15:52 |
| sil2100 | sergiusens: ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en | 15:54 |
| sergiusens | sil2100, thanks | 15:54 |
| sil2100 | yw! ;) | 15:54 |
| sergiusens | sil2100, the docs need updating btw ;-) | 15:54 |
| sil2100 | Oh? Let me check :) | 15:55 |
| sergiusens | sil2100, oh, nvm there's a ref here https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ to the list for actual channels | 15:57 |
| sergiusens | I wish the code snippet there used a stub --channel though | 15:57 |
| test_pt | hey | 16:35 |
| test_pt | anyone here? | 16:35 |
| davmor2 | test_pt: lots | 16:36 |
| test_pt | the linux channel is dead :) | 16:36 |
| test_pt | hi folks | 16:36 |
| test_pt | do you know if it's possible to get ubuntu touch on a cube u30gt-h (rkt 3066) ? | 16:37 |
| test_pt | no takers ? | 16:43 |
| test_pt | do you know if it's possible to get ubuntu touch on a cube u30gt-h (rkt 3066) ? | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | !devices | 16:43 |
| ubot5 | You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | if there is no port on that page you would have to attemp a port yourself | 16:44 |
| test_pt | Ogra | 16:44 |
| test_pt | you're a lifesaver | 16:44 |
| test_pt | thanks mate | 16:44 |
| ogra_ | i guess it it unlikely thouh ... but good luck | 16:44 |
| test_pt | damn | 16:46 |
| test_pt | not a line .. | 16:46 |
| test_pt | pikunto for rkt 3066 exists | 16:46 |
| test_pt | and there's a russian port | 16:46 |
| test_pt | but I can't understand jack from it ... | 16:47 |
| test_pt | google translate sucks on russian | 16:47 |
| test_pt | thanks anyway | 16:47 |
| test_pt | gonna keep diggin | 16:47 |
| abeato | Laney, one issue with plugins-bad and the overlay is that it asks for gtk-3 >= 1.15, while we have 1.14 in the overlay... I changed the dependency to >= 1.14 and it compiled fine, so don't know if that restriction is completely necessary or not | 17:27 |
| Laney | 3.15 | 17:28 |
| Laney | abeato: I'm going to get to it on Monday | 17:28 |
| Laney | but you could git blame to find out why it was changed | 17:28 |
| abeato | oh, yeah, 3.15 :) | 17:28 |
| abeato | Laney, yes, I'll take a look | 17:28 |
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| sergiusens | davmor2, ogra_ fwiw, a reboot solved my wonky dbus issue | 18:18 |
| ogra_ | oh | 18:19 |
| ogra_ | windows touch :P | 18:19 |
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| mcphail | Has OTA 8.5 been confirmed? | 18:56 |
| davmor2 | mcphail: no | 18:59 |
| davmor2 | mcphail: I'm sure sil2100 will announce it when it is | 18:59 |
| sil2100 | We're still working on things that need to be done before the date will be known | 19:00 |
| mcphail | sil2100: but there is a commitment to have a release before the expected date of OTA9? | 19:01 |
| sil2100 | mcphail: yes, the whole idea of OTA-8.5 is to release a few important fixes before the end-of-year holidays | 19:02 |
| sil2100 | Possibly soon | 19:02 |
| mcphail | sil2100: davmor2: great. Cheers! | 19:02 |
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| jarlath | Anyone care to confirm this easy one for me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1522984 | 23:06 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1522984 in Dekko "All downloaded attachments prefixed with long string" [Undecided,New] | 23:06 |
| ahayzen | jarlath, yup, i had this earlier today :-) | 23:11 |
| * hussi slaps mwenning around a bit with a large fishbot | 23:32 | |
| mwenning | hussi, what'd I do? | 23:33 |
| hussi | i want to install android studio on ubuntu? | 23:33 |
| hussi | How to install it? | 23:33 |
| hussi | Can you help me? | 23:34 |
| mwenning | https://www.linux.com/community/blogs/132-mobile/779326-mobile-development-how-to-install-android-studio-on-ubuntu-version-1404 | 23:35 |
| hussi | Ok thank you... | 23:37 |
| kostkon | hussi, also consider: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make | 23:37 |
| * mwenning has no idea why he has been selected as an android studio expert | 23:39 | |
| dobey | or why that's asked in this channel | 23:49 |
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