[01:29] humpy bumpy boo [01:29] diddledan: https://www.dropbox.com/s/toqqrifxm1bys7a/IMG_20151204_011355.jpg?dl=0 [01:29] it's officially cold, now [01:29] awww [01:29] so cute [01:30] I would love something like that humansized [01:31] XD [01:31] do you have any idea how big the claws would be O_O [01:31] lol [01:31] I was referring to the snuggly, not the feline :-p [01:32] ;D [02:12] so apparently yahoo messenger still exists [02:14] yup, brings me back to my youth that one [02:14] horrific smilies, everyone was 14/f/cali... [02:14] lol [02:14] 14/f/cali <-- that takes me back [02:15] the other one was aol instant messenger [02:15] i always resisted that one! [02:15] lol [02:15] i don't think my time on ICQ was long either [02:16] I never really got along with ICQ [02:16] tho I still remember my number [02:16] same [02:17] I used their IRC service for many years however [02:17] that was where I met shauno [02:17] i remember watching a 'TV series' based on IRC + ICQ chat, (the scene) which always had them using the 'off/on the record' addon for ICQ or some such [02:18] looked like tinfoilers to me ;D [02:18] lol, I remember that [02:18] was entirely based on screen recordings IIRC [02:18] yep [02:18] sometimes webcams [02:20] I recall ICQ had an evil typewriter noise for every time you pressed a button [02:31] ah my #1 action on installing IM was to 1) disable emoticons 2) disable sounds 3) disable notifications [02:47] diddledan__, your plex is broken [02:51] m0nkey_: might be bandwidth restriction of my pipe? [02:52] you could try fiddling with the transcoding settings [02:52] I can't get anything to play [02:52] hmm [02:52] Let alone fiffle with it. [02:52] I meant to say fiddle, but fiffle seems more appropriate. [02:53] ok, now it works [02:54] odd. I just loaded the local webui, but haven't done anything else [02:54] I've just realised I've never fully watched Star Wars Ep4 [02:55] Ugh, Microsoft are switching from per socket to per core licensing on Server 2016.. [02:56] OK, your Star Wars episodes are messed up. Ep4 is playing Ep1, Phantom Menace. [02:56] \o/ [02:56] that was a sneaky attempt to prove that jarjar is awesome :-p [02:56] Bastard. [02:57] ok, I lie. but it's still funny [03:02] I'll go back to Fallout 4 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:29] Morning all [08:31] morning :) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [09:06] Morning all [09:11] Anybody know a DVB-S2 USB or PCI whatsit that has a mainline driver? I'm fed up of relying on TBS's rubbish drivers to compile. [09:18] Aha, this helps http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S2_PCIe_Cards [09:22] PCTV nanostack 290e [09:22] oh wait, S2 [09:38] I'm open to Freeview if you think it's better. Been using Freesat out of habit because our last house had really awful reception [09:51] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Wildlife Conservation Day! 😃 [09:52] JamesTait: there is this cheeky one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JF8oSxXtM [10:00] seriously [10:00] this person reading the news on radio 4 atm has a terrible bunged nose [10:00] get him off the air! [10:01] have a complimentary basket of vicks inhalers sent in... [10:12] morning boys and girls. [10:57] hmm, I'm cold :-( [10:57] morning [11:11] Clearly you're not playing enough video games [11:11] More games == more heat from the back of your "dustbuster" GPU card [11:11] More heat == less cold [11:13] I play games to warm my room [11:14] inefficient but fun [11:20] y'all are geeks :-p [11:26] newsflash [11:28] :O it's a Myrtti [11:28] Always [11:28] how's things? [11:29] all in all fairly positive :-) [11:38] Myrtti: allow me to make things a little more meh for you, It's nearly Monday ;) [11:39] you don't get me down that easily 😃 [11:39] weekend first :D [11:40] Myrtti: the Moomins die in the end???? [11:40] :-o [11:40] wut? [11:41] davmor2: you're just nasty, I'll tell czajkowski on you!! [11:42] MooDoo, Myrtti: well that or someone turned off the tv :D [11:42] TELLYBOX! [11:42] * diddledan__ wonders if jeremy kyle is on [11:42] :-p [11:43] diddledan__: jeremy is always on [11:43] yeah, I figured that after I said it [11:51] Oldham by-election : Labour up, Tory down (by more than half of vote share), UKIP butthurt about it [11:51] yey UKIP! [11:52] "yey UKIP! [11:52] ^ said noone sane ever [11:55] Hahaha, apparently they (UKIP) were playing "White Christmas" in Oldham. It's like something out of a biting political satire. [11:56] Good morning peeps :) [11:56] haha [11:57] awilkins: hardly surprising that Labour won a seat that they have held for, what, 45 years? [11:57] What's the likelihood of letsencrypt making it into 16.04? [11:58] need it to appear in debian usually IIRC [11:58] first* [11:58] Seeker`, The pundits were all predicting doom and gloom [11:58] When aren't they? [11:58] "Oh, Corbyn will put them all off and they'll lose the seat! Woe!" [11:58] yeah, that sells more papers than "Labour will keep safe seat" [11:59] Now they've actually increased their vote share (in no small part due to the Corbynite "Momentum" group), everyone is going "Oh, it's NOTHING to do with Jeremy, NOTHING." [11:59] diddledan__: ah, fair enough [12:00] It's the sort of thing that gets Debian contributors exited though, isn't it? [12:00] awilkins: the turnout was massively lower than the previous election [12:00] it would be a shame to miss the LTS though, so I hope it does get in [12:01] Seeker`, Yeah, I acknowledge that ; it could feasibly just be the product of all the Tories staying at home going "meh." [12:01] right, need to go fill up my bottle [12:01] ho hum [12:08] haha: https://twitter.com/raspberry_pi/status/672749159166967809 [12:09] also, star wars raspberri pi: https://twitter.com/designedbybird/status/672748905747120129 === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [13:01] put a banging donk on it === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:53] bigcalm: afaik it is already in debian experimental [13:53] \o/ [13:53] diplo: yep, saw that earlier [13:53] Sorry, just caught up with irc [13:53] I don't know how quickly debian processes work though [13:54] diplo: no worries, thanks for taking an interest :) [13:54] Probably as quickly as people badger for it :D [13:54] I was interested as I installed it myself earlier on my VPS looking for a package [13:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI [13:54] looks like it's only apahe so far as well, not ngingx [13:54] I manually ran the git repo version on one of my servers. Now have all 3 domains on that one ip address secured with SSL :) [13:57] diddledan__: not as good as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbby9coDRCk [13:58] Ah I had some errors on mine, not had a chance to look at it yet [13:59] I don't use it much so could be that the server isn't configured correctly :P === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [15:55] ricky gervais has some interesting thoughts in this article: http://ideas.time.com/2011/11/09/the-difference-between-american-and-british-humour/ [16:29] diddledan__: does say we have one they don't [16:49] davmor2: it's actually a more nuanced article than that [16:49] diddledan__: I'd say that article is broad/sweeping but fair [16:49] :-) [16:50] diddledan__: we hate everyone equally and the americans come in peace shot to kill, shot to kill.....wait no that's star trek.....meh same difference ;) [16:51] lol [16:51] that obviously requires the gratuitous link to be supplied: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE [16:52] * davmor2 bounces head along to the music [16:57] lol: https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/672821843816931329 [16:57] and also: https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/672821897743110145 [16:59] developer wearing suits aren't they called project managers [16:59] no, our PMs don't know how to code [17:00] developers wearing suits is just plain wrong [17:00] suits last till the first time you have to find a cable fault under a desk that hasn't been moved in 10 years... [17:02] though my personal favourite was there were so many cables connected to back of a pc that when it's desk collapsed it merely sagged and pulled at the wall sockets... [17:31] following my issues with the graphic card last week, I reinstalled and found my intel onboard graphics give a love resolution, I have now bought and Nvidia ASUS card, reinstalled and it still isn't good [17:32] http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008A1C2AM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 - this is the new card [17:38] is anyone around? I remember I spoke to SuperMatt M [17:38] that's it SuperMatt and davmor2 if you guys are around? [17:39] humm [17:40] safiyyah: possibly an issue on your motherboard maybe [17:40] safiyyah: see if there is a bios update [17:41] there isn't [17:41] plu, now it can't complain, the board and grahics card are both asus [17:42] how do I check if nouveau is actually running? [17:42] I am not convinced it is [17:43] hi safiyyah - long time no see [17:43] hi daftykins [17:44] is X working? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" [17:44] didn't you used to have to apply that custom modeline if it's that same TV you had? [17:45] I did daftykins , very true, but that was when I used the nvidia drivers, nouveau has always worked out of the box [17:45] I just finished a fresh install and bad graphics [17:46] 14.04.3? [17:46] yes [17:46] i'd throw on the proprietary driver immediately then [17:46] Xubuntu 14.04.3 [17:47] i am not going to be fidling with Nvidia anymore [17:47] nouveau is fine,,,, fell out of love with compiz [17:47] it's more about decently accelerated video than any foolish desktop effects [17:48] nouveau won't be fine for a new card on 14.04 [17:48] anywho the above command is still relevant [17:48] btw can nouveau handle two monitors? like two monitors, so I have two screens running with different windows? [17:48] heh a GT 610 new? :> [17:48] probably, but probably not easily [17:48] i'd just run nvidia then two would work immediately [17:49] I put the link up for the card I bought on amazon, [17:49] I didn't buy the latest, just a budget, quiet one [17:50] hang on, do I install nvidia, OR update my motherboard drivers [17:50] "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" [17:50] am hunting for the drivers as we speak [17:50] you don't have motherboard drivers on Linux [17:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13673181/ [17:52] also daftykins , with the new card there are new drivers listed, the old card used to only work properly with one of the options [17:52] is it trial and error again? try one at a time until one works? [17:52] nouveau is in use assuming that file is current [17:53] nope i'd install nvidia-346 [17:53] okay and then we change Xorg with popey's file? [17:54] well i'd see how it is first of all, hopefully life is different with a new card [17:55] I do not have 346 coming up on restricted drivers :( 352.63, 304.131, 340.96 - both legacy binary drivers and binary drivers on the exact same numbers [17:56] about nouveau, I put the card in and did a fresh install, so that is the freshest it can get [17:57] ok, well 352 will do [17:57] !info nvidia-346 trusty [17:57] nvidia-346 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-352): Transitional package for nvidia-346. In component restricted, is optional. Version 352.63-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 4 kB, installed size 34 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf) [17:58] binary or legacy binary [17:58] ? [17:58] roll a dice [17:58] oooooohhhhh [17:58] er, di [17:59] will go with binary [17:59] fancy names are usually the start of probems [17:59] I am on Andchat as well incase I need a reboot btw [18:01] nvidia it is.... just when I was dreaming of those 4K huge monitors I saw at curry's. I figured a double monitor would be the way forward. Watch bbc iplayer and youtube videos on there. fantasies fantasies [18:01] it's still working, just waiting [18:01] that museum piece of yours couldn't drive one of those with that card :> [18:02] is it my board? [18:02] or the new budget card? [18:02] lol [18:02] all of it [18:02] wow [18:03] anyway dreams aside, see how the nvidia driver fares after a reboot :> === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW [18:09] done, gone to reboot [18:11] daftykins, no change to the graphics, it threw up some error messages when booting though [18:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13673569/ [18:12] oh you're still using VGA :( [18:12] was that the only input type that monitor has? [18:13] it has HDMI as well but HDMI is with me DVD player [18:13] ah yeah [18:13] what's this talk of two displays now though, you have a new one? [18:14] i am going to be buying one in a few weeks [18:14] I wanted a big flat screen telly [18:14] the more TV like a new thing the more likely it's going to be a hassle just like now :( [18:14] plug it in via the HDMI port on the graphics card, and use it for my videos [18:15] hmmm [18:15] I cant stop dreaming of the big screen [18:15] as long as it doesnt kill my [18:15] PC [18:15] my 'museum piece' [18:15] 4K would certainly be utterly pointless for TV service and computer use [18:16] why? I can get BBC HD, etc? [18:16] HD != 4K [18:17] ^ [18:17] HD < 4K [18:18] well I thought the prestine images, would come off well with my blu ray DVDs [18:18] maybe I misunderstood the technology [18:18] when the resolution of the display is greater than the input material, there are no gains to be made [18:18] looney town central, everyone off! [18:19] daftykins: depends on the upscaler you have :P [18:19] rubbish [18:19] you can't create what isn't there regardless [18:19] on a single frame, sure [18:19] bluray != DVD. nothing called a bluray DVD exists. bluray is usually HD, HD != 4K [18:19] but you can infer things from temporal data [18:19] okay so a HDMI cable is not going to do it? and also, the telly itself connects to the internet [18:20] so it also won't get online TV streams like 4 OD? [18:20] they're all either SD or HD [18:20] okay [18:21] daftykins: it's possible to increase framerates by generating frames between the existing ones too, for example [18:21] the most likely place to get 4K content will be via subscription [18:21] scrap the 4K plan, can save me money.... then a large HD screen lol [18:21] Seeker`: we're not talking about framerate and i don't need a lesson on video, thanks. [18:22] 4K content is scarce right now. it will improve but it's not at critical mass where it makes sense to buy a 4K TV [18:22] ah!!!! [18:22] daftykins: it was an example of how you can get more detail in one frame when you have surrounding frames to look at too [18:22] you guys are so useful!!! [18:22] Seeker`: drop it thanks, none of this is news to me [18:22] okay so a normal HD telly at half the price will do me good [18:22] although if your TV breaks and you NEED to buy one then I would suggest that it makes sense to go for a 4K capable one then [18:22] daftykins: cheer up, it's almost the weekend [18:23] but only if you can afford the premium [18:23] keep it to yourself [18:23] O.o riiiiiiiiight [18:23] no am buying a big telly for the first time in me life [18:23] i was thinking the 4k meant, when the stuff went mainstream I would already have it [18:24] but according to you, even my blu ray player will be obsolete to the 4k tv [18:24] everything 4K is going to be redundant in the new year due to changing specs [18:24] ah they decided on a new technology instead? [18:24] yeah a current-generation bluray player won't be able to output the higher resolution [18:25] ah okay [18:25] also H.265 encoding is coming soon which none of the current stuff supports === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [18:25] and that card you got probably maxes out at 2560x1600 over HDMI [18:25] well let me just get a HD screen and think about the higher resolutions in a few years time [18:25] diddledan__: been here ages ;D [18:25] daftykins: not for actual content tho [18:25] the tech has been available but noone has used it [18:26] hmmm [18:26] the cheeky swines were trying to get royalties last i heard [18:26] h.264 is very entrenched these days due to everything having hardware support for decoding [18:26] yeah damned swines [18:27] so can my museum system manage the HD flat screen? [18:27] how dare they make me pay for something my arm cpu does anyway [18:27] like i said the card can drive 2560x1600 over HDMI, HD is 1920x1080 [18:27] * diddledan__ pets his 1920x1200 :-p [18:27] oh that will work then!!!! [18:28] it's an old monitor that tho [18:28] before they unified to 16:9 aspect ratio [18:28] diddledan__: GTX950 and GTX960 have H.265 apparently [18:28] okay so will keep my extra £300 and just get a HD, am not going to be getting virgin TV [18:28] ooh [18:29] It's part of nVidia's "Feature set F" [18:29] nice [18:29] right back to the disaster or a reboot, what is the driver unhappy about? [18:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13673569/ [18:29] do I chuck it and try the legacy binary drivers? [18:30] no, use the usual xorg.conf mod [18:30] it's the same as it always was :> [18:30] diddledan__: I think other cards can do it, but only via GPGPU, which is slower [18:31] i highly doubt you would get a renderer using GP offload, the intel chips of one or two generations do a hybrid decode, but not cards [18:31] most would have to fall back to software [18:31] the tech talk is going over me head daftykins [18:31] conversations running in parallel, they're not all for you [18:31] oh good [18:32] * diddledan__ multitasks [18:32] but you agreed with me about the regular HD monitor? [18:32] humans need to learn to multiplex our communications methods of text and speach [18:33] talk to three different people all simultaneously [18:33] maybe we'll need a binary speach protocol [18:34] we'll go around screeching instead of using words [18:36] booooooooo boooooop, booooooooooo, boooooooooop, boooble booble boooble..... /best spectrum game ever... :-D [18:37] apparently you can tell the age of a person by what kind of modem they sound like when asked to recreate the noise [18:39] although you might get the eejit who ruins the experiment by going "bee boo boop beep eeeeeeeee eeeee eeeeee .. MOM HANG UP THE PHONE!!!" [18:39] and those weirdos who pretend to be a fax machine... [18:39] lol [18:40] I'm a V.92 or a K-56Flex generation [18:40] a 300 baud bell modem as i like to be more casual... :-) [18:40] 48kpbs was a dream [18:41] you always did like the old stuff :-p [18:41] and all the pager services used 300 baud as it meant they could charge more for the calls... [18:41] lol [18:41] that's a bit crazy [18:41] do people still use pagers? [18:42] plus our alarm company /allies/ preferred 300 baud to talk to their alarm boxes so every modem we sold had to support it... [18:42] they shut down the main pager services around 2000 in ireland. but i did see one clipped to a guys belt a few months back. seems a lot of places have their own private transmitters. [18:43] as they are more dependable than sms [18:44] and having written an sms server AND a pager server for alarm companies i preferred pagers... [18:44] back around 2003/4 a new ASDA store opened with the checkout supers using pagers to get notified when a cashier needed assistance [18:45] a sms can be delayed days or weeks in certain conditions whereas a pager goes off the moment it's notified (as long as the coverage is good) [18:45] was nuts because the pagers had a limited memory of number of messages and each cashier request was a single message [18:45] so the pagers got full and then refused to receive new messages [18:46] i wrote one server in pcanywhere's scripting language and wrote all the messages to a log file. it was supposed to last 6 months till a proper server was bought and installed. about 5 years later the pc was brought in as no more messages were going out. [18:47] the log file had filled the 4gb hard disk :-) [18:47] lol [18:47] oops :-) [18:47] changed xorg.0.log, rebooted and no joy [18:47] err [18:47] *xorg.conf [18:48] ^ that [18:48] damn!!! [18:48] anyway I backed it up [18:48] will correct that [18:48] /etc/X11/xorg.conf is what you're creating [18:48] a file ending in .log usually denotes that it's a log file. hence the .log. it contains logs. not configuration [18:49] okay so changing it won't help [18:49] lol [18:49] it will make a new log at the next boot [18:49] indeed it will [18:54] yeiiii, it is working? [18:55] can i just ask if i am running nouveau or nvdia please? [18:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/13674583/ [18:55] you installed nvidia and i said last time that it's nvidia in use now... [18:56] okay, where did you get the specifications for the recommended nvidia drivers? [18:59] my brain, you don't have to pick specific versions for specific cards, they all work with them all [19:00] good brain you have there, wow! [19:00] am sorted! thank you so much. [19:01] and am I good to go with the extra monitor/tv screen now? [19:09] as in, will a second display using HDMI work perfectly when plugged in? maybe [19:15] lol [19:16] well I may be back then [19:16] thanks a tonne again [19:21] jeri ryan's new tee-shirt: https://represent.com/jeri [19:23] i'll just have to hope santa is still alive so... :-P http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/dec/04/father-christmas-death-notice-norwegian-newspaper [19:26] they're blaming procedural problems rather than an idiot? [19:27] diddledan__: what were you doing there ;) [19:36] I was hiding, but Santa found me so I had to kill him... [19:36] which movie tonight: ant-man or tomorrowland? [19:37] got an episode of agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. to watch, too [19:38] * zmoylan-pi has a 2-3 more episodes of firefly ahead, and drop the dead donkey... [19:38] zmoylan-pi: don't forget serenity too [19:39] i will copy the movie and a few others to viewing device as i get to last tv episode... [19:39] probably fifth element as well, maybe 2010... [19:40] the fifth elephant is awesome [19:40] it is one of the most beautiful sci fi movies ever made... [19:40] zmoylan-pi, diddledan__: you both need to see "now you see me" again if you haven't already :) [19:41] davmor2: I've watched that many times already - I will watch it again soon, you're right - amazing film [19:42] diddledan__: number 2 next year [19:42] yup, excited for it [19:42] i'll keep an eye out for it in dvd shop next time i'm there [19:43] diddledan__, zmoylan-pi: you both need to see ex mechina too if you haven't [19:44] again, awesome choice! [19:44] the machine is fun too [19:44] salt 2 is meant to be out soon too iirc [19:45] then all i can do is recommend 2 movies you won't have seen and will make you laugh... 'the gods must be crazy' plus it's sequel [19:45] and then there is alice through the looking glass [19:47] and if you like crime movies the irish comedy/crime movie 'i went down' is brilliant [19:51] zmoylan-pi, diddledan__: if you like something along the line of the pink panther comedy wise I recommend Mortdecai [19:51] oh yes, I've seen the trailer, I meant to get a copy but forgot all about it - thanks for the reminder :-) [19:52] kingsman is hilarious! [19:52] yeah, i liked that film [19:52] watched it a couple of times now [19:53] yeah it got sucky reviews but I think that is because everyone was expecting it to be bond with Colin Firth in and then they killed him [19:53] I loved it though [19:53] I loved it too [19:55] if anyone invites you to see Lone ranger gauge your eyes out [19:55] gouge even [19:56] Watched Tomorrowland with Clooney [19:56] bit of an odd one [19:59] popey: cloud atlas weird or vanilla skies weird [20:00] popey: are you on 150mb yet? [20:27] bigcalm, didnt know it was an option [20:27] bigcalm, do i need a cable modem upgrade? [20:31] popey: I logged into my account and there was a message telling me that before the end of December my connection would be upgraded to 150mb [20:31] you still on mates rates? [20:31] Na, I had to ditch it [20:31]