[01:29] <diddledan__> humpy bumpy boo
[01:29] <daftykins> diddledan: https://www.dropbox.com/s/toqqrifxm1bys7a/IMG_20151204_011355.jpg?dl=0
[01:29] <daftykins> it's officially cold, now
[01:29] <diddledan__> awww
[01:29] <diddledan__> so cute
[01:30] <diddledan__> I would love something like that humansized
[01:31] <daftykins> XD
[01:31] <daftykins> do you have any idea how big the claws would be O_O
[01:31] <diddledan__> lol
[01:31] <diddledan__> I was referring to the snuggly, not the feline :-p
[01:32] <daftykins> ;D
[02:12] <diddledan__> so apparently yahoo messenger still exists
[02:14] <daftykins> yup, brings me back to my youth that one
[02:14] <daftykins> horrific smilies, everyone was 14/f/cali...
[02:14] <diddledan__> lol
[02:14] <diddledan__> 14/f/cali <-- that takes me back
[02:15] <diddledan__> the other one was aol instant messenger
[02:15] <daftykins> i always resisted that one!
[02:15] <diddledan__> lol
[02:15] <daftykins> i don't think my time on ICQ was long either
[02:16] <diddledan__> I never really got along with ICQ
[02:16] <diddledan__> tho I still remember my number
[02:16] <daftykins> same
[02:17] <diddledan__> I used their IRC service for many years however
[02:17] <diddledan__> that was where I met shauno
[02:17] <daftykins> i remember watching a 'TV series' based on IRC + ICQ chat, (the scene) which always had them using the 'off/on the record' addon for ICQ or some such
[02:18] <daftykins> looked like tinfoilers to me ;D
[02:18] <diddledan__> lol, I remember that
[02:18] <diddledan__> was entirely based on screen recordings IIRC
[02:18] <daftykins> yep
[02:18] <daftykins> sometimes webcams
[02:20] <diddledan__> I recall ICQ had an evil typewriter noise for every time you pressed a button
[02:31] <daftykins> ah my #1 action on installing IM was to 1) disable emoticons 2) disable sounds 3) disable notifications
[02:47] <m0nkey_> diddledan__, your plex is broken
[02:51] <diddledan__> m0nkey_: might be bandwidth restriction of my pipe?
[02:52] <diddledan__> you could try fiddling with the transcoding settings
[02:52] <m0nkey_> I can't get anything to play
[02:52] <diddledan__> hmm
[02:52] <m0nkey_> Let alone fiffle with it.
[02:52] <m0nkey_> I meant to say fiddle, but fiffle seems more appropriate.
[02:53] <m0nkey_> ok, now it works
[02:54] <diddledan__> odd. I just loaded the local webui, but haven't done anything else
[02:54] <m0nkey_> I've just realised I've never fully watched Star Wars Ep4
[02:55] <m0nkey_> Ugh, Microsoft are switching from per socket to per core licensing on Server 2016..
[02:56] <m0nkey_> OK, your Star Wars episodes are messed up. Ep4 is playing Ep1, Phantom Menace.
[02:56] <diddledan__> \o/
[02:56] <diddledan__> that was a sneaky attempt to prove that jarjar is awesome :-p
[02:56] <m0nkey_> Bastard.
[02:57] <diddledan__> ok, I lie. but it's still funny
[03:02] <m0nkey_> I'll go back to Fallout 4
[08:29] <diplo> Morning all
[08:31] <MooDoo> morning :)
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:11] <Oli> Anybody know a DVB-S2 USB or PCI whatsit that has a mainline driver? I'm fed up of relying on TBS's rubbish drivers to compile.
[09:18] <Oli> Aha, this helps http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S2_PCIe_Cards
[09:22] <ali1234> PCTV nanostack 290e
[09:22] <ali1234> oh wait, S2
[09:38] <Oli> I'm open to Freeview if you think it's better. Been using Freesat out of habit because our last house had really awful reception
[09:51] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Wildlife Conservation Day! 😃
[09:52] <davmor2> JamesTait: there is this cheeky one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JF8oSxXtM
[10:00] <Laney> seriously
[10:00] <Laney> this person reading the news on radio 4 atm has a terrible bunged nose
[10:00] <Laney> get him off the air!
[10:01] <zmoylan-pi> have a complimentary basket of vicks inhalers sent in...
[10:12] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:57] <diddledan__> hmm, I'm cold :-(
[10:57] <diddledan__> morning
[11:11] <awilkins> Clearly you're not playing enough video games
[11:11] <awilkins> More games == more heat from the back of your "dustbuster" GPU card
[11:11] <awilkins> More heat == less cold
[11:13] <Seeker`> I play games to warm my room
[11:14] <Seeker`> inefficient but fun
[11:20] <diddledan__> y'all are geeks :-p
[11:26] <Myrtti> newsflash
[11:28] <Seeker`> :O it's a Myrtti
[11:28] <Myrtti> Always
[11:28] <Seeker`> how's things?
[11:29] <Myrtti> all in all fairly positive :-)
[11:38] <davmor2> Myrtti: allow me to make things a little more meh for you, It's nearly Monday ;)
[11:39] <Myrtti> you don't get me down that easily 😃
[11:39] <Seeker`> weekend first :D
[11:40] <davmor2> Myrtti: the Moomins die in the end????
[11:40] <diddledan__> :-o
[11:40] <Seeker`> wut?
[11:41] <MooDoo> davmor2: you're just nasty, I'll tell czajkowski on you!!
[11:42] <davmor2> MooDoo, Myrtti: well that or someone turned off the tv :D
[11:42] <diddledan__> TELLYBOX!
[11:42]  * diddledan__ wonders if jeremy kyle is on
[11:42] <diddledan__> :-p
[11:43] <davmor2> diddledan__: jeremy is always on
[11:43] <diddledan__> yeah, I figured that after I said it
[11:51] <awilkins> Oldham by-election : Labour up, Tory down (by more than half of vote share), UKIP butthurt about it
[11:51] <diddledan__> yey UKIP!
[11:52] <Seeker`> "yey UKIP!
[11:52] <Seeker`> ^ said noone sane ever
[11:55] <awilkins> Hahaha, apparently they (UKIP) were playing "White Christmas" in Oldham. It's like something out of a biting political satire.
[11:56] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:56] <diddledan__> haha
[11:57] <Seeker`> awilkins: hardly surprising that Labour won a seat that they have held for, what, 45 years?
[11:57] <bigcalm> What's the likelihood of letsencrypt making it into 16.04?
[11:58] <diddledan__> need it to appear in debian usually IIRC
[11:58] <diddledan__> first*
[11:58] <awilkins> Seeker`, The pundits were all predicting doom and gloom
[11:58] <Seeker`> When aren't they?
[11:58] <awilkins> "Oh, Corbyn will put them all off and they'll lose the seat! Woe!"
[11:58] <Seeker`> yeah, that sells more papers than "Labour will keep safe seat"
[11:59] <awilkins> Now they've actually increased their vote share (in no small part due to the Corbynite "Momentum" group), everyone is going "Oh, it's NOTHING to do with Jeremy, NOTHING."
[11:59] <bigcalm> diddledan__: ah, fair enough
[12:00] <awilkins> It's the sort of thing that gets Debian contributors exited though, isn't it?
[12:00] <Seeker`> awilkins: the turnout was massively lower than the previous election
[12:00] <diddledan__> it would be a shame to miss the LTS though, so I hope it does get in
[12:01] <awilkins> Seeker`, Yeah, I acknowledge that ; it could feasibly just be the product of all the Tories staying at home going "meh."
[12:01] <Myrtti> right, need to go fill up my bottle
[12:01] <Myrtti> ho hum
[12:08] <diddledan__> haha: https://twitter.com/raspberry_pi/status/672749159166967809
[12:09] <diddledan__> also, star wars raspberri pi: https://twitter.com/designedbybird/status/672748905747120129
[13:01] <Laney> put a banging donk on it
[13:53] <diplo> bigcalm: afaik it is already in debian experimental
[13:53] <diddledan__> \o/
[13:53] <bigcalm> diplo: yep, saw that earlier
[13:53] <diplo> Sorry, just caught up with irc
[13:53] <bigcalm> I don't know how quickly debian processes work though
[13:54] <bigcalm> diplo: no worries, thanks for taking an interest :)
[13:54] <diplo> Probably as quickly as people badger for it :D
[13:54] <diplo> I was interested as I installed it myself earlier on my VPS looking for a package
[13:54] <diddledan__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
[13:54] <diplo> looks like it's only apahe so far as well, not ngingx
[13:54] <bigcalm> I manually ran the git repo version on one of my servers. Now have all 3 domains on that one ip address secured with SSL :)
[13:57] <davmor2> diddledan__: not as good as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbby9coDRCk
[13:58] <diplo> Ah I had some errors on mine, not had a chance to look at it yet
[13:59] <diplo> I don't use it much so could be that the server isn't configured correctly :P
[15:55] <diddledan__> ricky gervais has some interesting thoughts in this article: http://ideas.time.com/2011/11/09/the-difference-between-american-and-british-humour/
[16:29] <davmor2> diddledan__: does say we have one they don't
[16:49] <diddledan__> davmor2: it's actually a more nuanced article than that
[16:49] <davmor2> diddledan__: I'd say that article is broad/sweeping but fair
[16:49] <diddledan__> :-)
[16:50] <davmor2> diddledan__: we hate everyone equally and the americans come in peace shot to kill, shot to kill.....wait no that's star trek.....meh same difference ;)
[16:51] <diddledan__> lol
[16:51] <diddledan__> that obviously requires the gratuitous link to be supplied: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE
[16:52]  * davmor2 bounces head along to the music
[16:57] <diddledan__> lol: https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/672821843816931329
[16:57] <diddledan__> and also: https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/672821897743110145
[16:59] <davmor2> developer wearing suits aren't they called project managers
[16:59] <diddledan__> no, our PMs don't know how to code
[17:00] <diddledan__> developers wearing suits is just plain wrong
[17:00] <zmoylan-pi> suits last till the first time you have to find a cable fault under a desk that hasn't been moved in 10 years...
[17:02] <zmoylan-pi> though my personal favourite was there were so many cables connected to back of a pc that when it's desk collapsed it merely sagged and pulled at the wall sockets...
[17:31] <safiyyah> following my issues with the graphic card last week, I reinstalled and found my intel onboard graphics give a love resolution, I have now bought and Nvidia ASUS card, reinstalled and it still isn't good
[17:32] <safiyyah> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008A1C2AM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00 - this is the new card
[17:38] <safiyyah> is anyone around? I remember I spoke to SuperMatt M
[17:38] <safiyyah> that's it SuperMatt and davmor2 if you guys are around?
[17:39] <davmor2> humm
[17:40] <davmor2> safiyyah: possibly an issue on your motherboard maybe
[17:40] <davmor2> safiyyah: see if there is a bios update
[17:41] <safiyyah> there isn't
[17:41] <safiyyah> plu, now it can't complain, the board and grahics card are both asus
[17:42] <safiyyah> how do I check if nouveau is actually running?
[17:42] <safiyyah> I am not convinced it is
[17:43] <daftykins> hi safiyyah - long time no see
[17:43] <safiyyah> hi daftykins
[17:44] <daftykins> is X working? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[17:44] <daftykins> didn't you used to have to apply that custom modeline if it's that same TV you had?
[17:45] <safiyyah> I did daftykins , very true, but that was when I used the nvidia drivers, nouveau has always worked out of the box
[17:45] <safiyyah> I just finished a fresh install and bad graphics
[17:46] <daftykins> 14.04.3?
[17:46] <safiyyah> yes
[17:46] <daftykins> i'd throw on the proprietary driver immediately then
[17:46] <safiyyah> Xubuntu 14.04.3
[17:47] <safiyyah> i am not going to be fidling with Nvidia anymore
[17:47] <safiyyah> nouveau is fine,,,, fell out of love with compiz
[17:47] <daftykins> it's more about decently accelerated video than any foolish desktop effects
[17:48] <diddledan__> nouveau won't be fine for a new card on 14.04
[17:48] <daftykins> anywho the above command is still relevant
[17:48] <safiyyah> btw can nouveau handle two monitors? like two monitors, so I have two screens running with different windows?
[17:48] <daftykins> heh a GT 610 new? :>
[17:48] <daftykins> probably, but probably not easily
[17:48] <daftykins> i'd just run nvidia then two would work immediately
[17:49] <safiyyah> I put the link up for the card I bought on amazon,
[17:49] <safiyyah> I didn't buy the latest, just a budget, quiet one
[17:50] <safiyyah> hang on, do I install nvidia, OR update my motherboard drivers
[17:50] <daftykins> "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[17:50] <safiyyah> am hunting for the drivers as we speak
[17:50] <daftykins> you don't have motherboard drivers on Linux
[17:51] <safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13673181/
[17:52] <safiyyah> also daftykins ,  with the new card there are new drivers listed, the old card used to only work properly with one of the options
[17:52] <safiyyah> is it trial and error again? try one at a time until one works?
[17:52] <daftykins> nouveau is in use assuming that file is current
[17:53] <daftykins> nope i'd install nvidia-346
[17:53] <safiyyah> okay and then we change Xorg with popey's file?
[17:54] <daftykins> well i'd see how it is first of all, hopefully life is different with a new card
[17:55] <safiyyah> I do not have 346 coming up on restricted drivers :( 352.63, 304.131, 340.96 - both legacy binary drivers and binary drivers on the exact same numbers
[17:56] <safiyyah> about nouveau, I put the card in and did a fresh install, so that is the freshest it can get
[17:57] <daftykins> ok, well 352 will do
[17:57] <daftykins> !info nvidia-346 trusty
[17:57] <lubotu3`> nvidia-346 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-352): Transitional package for nvidia-346. In component restricted, is optional. Version 352.63-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 4 kB, installed size 34 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf)
[17:58] <safiyyah> binary or legacy binary
[17:58] <safiyyah> ?
[17:58] <daftykins> roll a dice
[17:58] <safiyyah> oooooohhhhh
[17:58] <daftykins> er, di
[17:59] <safiyyah> will go with binary
[17:59] <safiyyah> fancy names are usually the start of probems
[17:59] <safiyyah> I am on Andchat as well incase I need a reboot btw
[18:01] <safiyyah> nvidia it is.... just when I was dreaming of those 4K huge monitors I saw at curry's. I figured a double monitor would be the way forward. Watch bbc iplayer and youtube videos on there. fantasies fantasies
[18:01] <safiyyah> it's still working, just waiting
[18:01] <daftykins> that museum piece of yours couldn't drive one of those with that card :>
[18:02] <safiyyah> is it my board?
[18:02] <safiyyah> or the new budget card?
[18:02] <safiyyah> lol
[18:02] <daftykins> all of it
[18:02] <safiyyah> wow
[18:03] <daftykins> anyway dreams aside, see how the nvidia driver fares after a reboot :>
[18:09] <safiyyah> done, gone to reboot
[18:11] <safiyyah> daftykins, no change to the graphics, it threw up some error messages when booting though
[18:11] <safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13673569/
[18:12] <daftykins> oh you're still using VGA :(
[18:12] <daftykins> was that the only input type that monitor has?
[18:13] <safiyyah> it has HDMI as well but HDMI is with me DVD player
[18:13] <daftykins> ah yeah
[18:13] <daftykins> what's this talk of two displays now though, you have a new one?
[18:14] <safiyyah> i am going to be buying one in a few weeks
[18:14] <safiyyah> I wanted a big flat screen telly
[18:14] <daftykins> the more TV like a new thing the more likely it's going to be a hassle just like now :(
[18:14] <safiyyah> plug it in via the HDMI port on the graphics card, and use it for my videos
[18:15] <safiyyah> hmmm
[18:15] <safiyyah> I cant stop dreaming of the big screen
[18:15] <safiyyah> as long as it doesnt kill my
[18:15] <safiyyah> PC
[18:15] <safiyyah> my 'museum piece'
[18:15] <daftykins> 4K would certainly be utterly pointless for TV service and computer use
[18:16] <safiyyah> why? I can get BBC HD, etc?
[18:16] <diddledan__> HD != 4K
[18:17] <daftykins> ^
[18:17] <diddledan__> HD < 4K
[18:18] <safiyyah> well I thought the prestine images, would come off well with my blu ray DVDs
[18:18] <safiyyah> maybe I misunderstood the technology
[18:18] <daftykins> when the resolution of the display is greater than the input material, there are no gains to be made
[18:18] <diddledan__> looney town central, everyone off!
[18:19] <Seeker`> daftykins: depends on the upscaler you have :P
[18:19] <daftykins> rubbish
[18:19] <daftykins> you can't create what isn't there regardless
[18:19] <Seeker`> on a single frame, sure
[18:19] <diddledan__> bluray != DVD. nothing called a bluray DVD exists. bluray is usually HD, HD != 4K
[18:19] <Seeker`> but you can infer things from temporal data
[18:19] <safiyyah> okay so a HDMI cable is not going to do it? and also, the telly itself connects to the internet
[18:20] <safiyyah> so it also won't get online TV streams like 4 OD?
[18:20] <diddledan__> they're all either SD or HD
[18:20] <safiyyah> okay
[18:21] <Seeker`> daftykins: it's possible to increase framerates by generating frames between the existing ones too, for example
[18:21] <diddledan__> the most likely place to get 4K content will be via subscription
[18:21] <safiyyah> scrap the 4K plan, can save me money.... then a large HD screen lol
[18:21] <daftykins> Seeker`: we're not talking about framerate and i don't need a lesson on video, thanks.
[18:22] <diddledan__> 4K content is scarce right now. it will improve but it's not at critical mass where it makes sense to buy a 4K TV
[18:22] <safiyyah> ah!!!!
[18:22] <Seeker`> daftykins: it was an example of how you can get more detail in one frame when you have surrounding frames to look at too
[18:22] <safiyyah> you guys are so useful!!!
[18:22] <daftykins> Seeker`: drop it thanks, none of this is news to me
[18:22] <safiyyah> okay so a normal HD telly at half the price will do me good
[18:22] <diddledan__> although if your TV breaks and you NEED to buy one then I would suggest that it makes sense to go for a 4K capable one then
[18:22] <Seeker`> daftykins: cheer up, it's almost the weekend
[18:23] <diddledan__> but only if you can afford the premium
[18:23] <daftykins> keep it to yourself
[18:23] <Seeker`> O.o riiiiiiiiight
[18:23] <safiyyah> no am buying  a big telly for the first time in me life
[18:23] <safiyyah> i was thinking the 4k meant, when the stuff went mainstream I would already have it
[18:24] <safiyyah> but according to you, even my blu ray player will be obsolete to the 4k tv
[18:24] <daftykins> everything 4K is going to be redundant in the new year due to changing specs
[18:24] <safiyyah> ah they decided on a new technology instead?
[18:24] <diddledan__> yeah a current-generation bluray player won't be able to output the higher resolution
[18:25] <safiyyah> ah okay
[18:25] <diddledan__> also H.265 encoding is coming soon which none of the current stuff supports
[18:25] <daftykins> and that card you got probably maxes out at 2560x1600 over HDMI
[18:25] <safiyyah> well let me just get a HD screen and think about the higher resolutions in a few years time
[18:25] <daftykins> diddledan__: been here ages ;D
[18:25] <diddledan__> daftykins: not for actual content tho
[18:25] <diddledan__> the tech has been available but noone has used it
[18:26] <safiyyah> hmmm
[18:26] <daftykins> the cheeky swines were trying to get royalties last i heard
[18:26] <diddledan__> h.264 is very entrenched these days due to everything having hardware support for decoding
[18:26] <diddledan__> yeah damned swines
[18:27] <safiyyah> so can my museum system manage the HD flat screen?
[18:27] <diddledan__> how dare they make me pay for something my arm cpu does anyway
[18:27] <daftykins> like i said the card can drive 2560x1600 over HDMI, HD is 1920x1080
[18:27]  * diddledan__ pets his 1920x1200 :-p
[18:27] <safiyyah> oh that will work then!!!!
[18:28] <diddledan__> it's an old monitor that tho
[18:28] <diddledan__> before they unified to 16:9 aspect ratio
[18:28] <Seeker`> diddledan__: GTX950 and GTX960 have H.265 apparently
[18:28] <safiyyah> okay so will keep my extra £300 and just get a HD, am not going to be getting virgin TV
[18:28] <diddledan__> ooh
[18:29] <Seeker`> It's part of nVidia's "Feature set F"
[18:29] <diddledan__> nice
[18:29] <safiyyah> right back to the disaster or a reboot, what is the driver unhappy about?
[18:29] <safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13673569/
[18:29] <safiyyah> do I chuck it and try the legacy binary drivers?
[18:30] <daftykins> no, use the usual xorg.conf mod
[18:30] <daftykins> it's the same as it always was :>
[18:30] <Seeker`> diddledan__: I think other cards can do it, but only via GPGPU, which is slower
[18:31] <daftykins> i highly doubt you would get a renderer using GP offload, the intel chips of one or two generations do a hybrid decode, but not cards
[18:31] <daftykins> most would have to fall back to software
[18:31] <safiyyah> the tech talk is going over me head daftykins
[18:31] <daftykins> conversations running in parallel, they're not all for you
[18:31] <safiyyah> oh good
[18:32]  * diddledan__ multitasks
[18:32] <safiyyah> but you agreed with me about the regular HD monitor?
[18:32] <diddledan__> humans need to learn to multiplex our communications methods of text and speach
[18:33] <diddledan__> talk to three different people all simultaneously
[18:33] <diddledan__> maybe we'll need a binary speach protocol
[18:34] <diddledan__> we'll go around screeching instead of using words
[18:36] <zmoylan-pi> booooooooo boooooop, booooooooooo, boooooooooop, boooble booble boooble..... /best spectrum game ever... :-D
[18:37] <diddledan__> apparently you can tell the age of a person by what kind of modem they sound like when asked to recreate the noise
[18:39] <diddledan__> although you might get the eejit who ruins the experiment by going "bee boo boop beep eeeeeeeee eeeee eeeeee <click>.. MOM HANG UP THE PHONE!!!"
[18:39] <zmoylan-pi> and those weirdos who pretend to be a fax machine...
[18:39] <diddledan__> lol
[18:40] <diddledan__> I'm a V.92 or a K-56Flex generation
[18:40] <zmoylan-pi> a 300 baud bell modem as i like to be more casual... :-)
[18:40] <diddledan__> 48kpbs was a dream
[18:41] <diddledan__> you always did like the old stuff :-p
[18:41] <zmoylan-pi> and all the pager services used 300 baud as it meant they could charge more for the calls...
[18:41] <diddledan__> lol
[18:41] <diddledan__> that's a bit crazy
[18:41] <diddledan__> do people still use pagers?
[18:42] <zmoylan-pi> plus our alarm company /allies/ preferred 300 baud to talk to their alarm boxes so every modem we sold had to support it...
[18:42] <zmoylan-pi> they shut down the main pager services around 2000 in ireland.  but i did see one clipped to a guys belt a few months back.  seems a lot of places have their own private transmitters.
[18:43] <zmoylan-pi> as they are more dependable than sms
[18:44] <zmoylan-pi> and having written an sms server AND a pager server for alarm companies i preferred pagers...
[18:44] <diddledan__> back around 2003/4 a new ASDA store opened with the checkout supers using pagers to get notified when a cashier needed assistance
[18:45] <zmoylan-pi> a sms can be delayed days or weeks in certain conditions whereas a pager goes off the moment it's notified (as long as the coverage is good)
[18:45] <diddledan__> was nuts because the pagers had a limited memory of number of messages and each cashier request was a single message
[18:45] <diddledan__> so the pagers got full and then refused to receive new messages
[18:46] <zmoylan-pi> i wrote one server in pcanywhere's scripting language and wrote all the messages to a log file.  it was supposed to last 6 months till a proper server was bought and installed.  about 5 years later the pc was brought in as no more messages were going out.
[18:47] <zmoylan-pi> the log file had filled the 4gb hard disk :-)
[18:47] <diddledan__> lol
[18:47] <zmoylan-pi> oops :-)
[18:47] <safiyyah> changed xorg.0.log, rebooted and no joy
[18:47] <diddledan__> err
[18:47] <daftykins> *xorg.conf
[18:48] <diddledan__> ^ that
[18:48] <safiyyah> damn!!!
[18:48] <safiyyah> anyway I backed it up
[18:48] <safiyyah> will correct that
[18:48] <daftykins> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is what you're creating
[18:48] <diddledan__> a file ending in .log usually denotes that it's a log file. hence the .log. it contains logs. not configuration
[18:49] <safiyyah> okay so changing it won't help
[18:49] <safiyyah> lol
[18:49] <safiyyah> it will make a new log at the next boot
[18:49] <diddledan__> indeed it will
[18:54] <safiyyah> yeiiii, it is working?
[18:55] <safiyyah> can i just ask if i am running nouveau or nvdia please?
[18:55] <safiyyah> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13674583/
[18:55] <daftykins> you installed nvidia and i said last time that it's nvidia in use now...
[18:56] <safiyyah> okay, where did you get the specifications for the recommended nvidia drivers?
[18:59] <daftykins> my brain, you don't have to pick specific versions for specific cards, they all work with them all
[19:00] <safiyyah> good brain you have there, wow!
[19:00] <safiyyah> am sorted! thank you so much.
[19:01] <safiyyah> and am I good to go with the extra monitor/tv screen now?
[19:09] <daftykins> as in, will a second display using HDMI work perfectly when plugged in? maybe
[19:15] <safiyyah> lol
[19:16] <safiyyah> well I may be back then
[19:16] <safiyyah> thanks a tonne again
[19:21] <diddledan__> jeri ryan's new tee-shirt: https://represent.com/jeri
[19:23] <zmoylan-pi> i'll just have to hope santa is still alive so... :-P http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/dec/04/father-christmas-death-notice-norwegian-newspaper
[19:26] <diddledan__> they're blaming procedural problems rather than an idiot?
[19:27] <davmor2> diddledan__: what were you doing there ;)
[19:36] <diddledan__> I was hiding, but Santa found me so I had to kill him...
[19:36] <diddledan__> which movie tonight: ant-man or tomorrowland?
[19:37] <diddledan__> got an episode of agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. to watch, too
[19:38]  * zmoylan-pi has a 2-3 more episodes of firefly ahead, and drop the dead donkey...
[19:38] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: don't forget serenity too
[19:39] <zmoylan-pi> i will copy the movie and a few others to viewing device as i get to last tv episode...
[19:39] <zmoylan-pi> probably fifth element as well, maybe 2010...
[19:40] <diddledan__> the fifth elephant is awesome
[19:40] <zmoylan-pi> it is one of the most beautiful sci fi movies ever made...
[19:40] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi, diddledan__: you both need to see "now you see me" again if you haven't already :)
[19:41] <diddledan__> davmor2: I've watched that many times already - I will watch it again soon, you're right - amazing film
[19:42] <davmor2> diddledan__: number 2 next year
[19:42] <diddledan__> yup, excited for it
[19:42] <zmoylan-pi> i'll keep an eye out for it in dvd shop next time i'm there
[19:43] <davmor2> diddledan__, zmoylan-pi: you both need to see ex mechina too if you haven't
[19:44] <diddledan__> again, awesome choice!
[19:44] <diddledan__> the machine is fun too
[19:44] <davmor2> salt 2 is meant to be out soon too iirc
[19:45] <zmoylan-pi> then all i can do is recommend 2 movies you won't have seen and will make you laugh... 'the gods must be crazy' plus it's sequel
[19:45] <davmor2> and then there is alice through the looking glass
[19:47] <zmoylan-pi> and if you like crime movies the irish comedy/crime movie 'i went down' is brilliant
[19:51] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi, diddledan__: if you like something along the line of the pink panther comedy wise I recommend Mortdecai
[19:51] <diddledan__> oh yes, I've seen the trailer, I meant to get a copy but forgot all about it - thanks for the reminder :-)
[19:52] <diddledan__> kingsman is hilarious!
[19:52] <popey> yeah, i liked that film
[19:52] <popey> watched it a couple of times now
[19:53] <davmor2> yeah it got sucky reviews but I think that is because everyone was expecting it to be bond with Colin Firth in and then they killed him
[19:53] <davmor2> I loved it though
[19:53] <diddledan__> I loved it too
[19:55] <davmor2> if anyone invites you to see Lone ranger gauge your eyes out
[19:55] <davmor2> gouge even
[19:56] <popey> Watched Tomorrowland with Clooney
[19:56] <popey> bit of an odd one
[19:59] <davmor2> popey: cloud atlas weird or vanilla skies weird
[20:00] <bigcalm> popey: are you on 150mb yet?
[20:27] <popey> bigcalm, didnt know it was an option
[20:27] <popey> bigcalm, do i need a cable modem upgrade?
[20:31] <bigcalm> popey: I logged into my account and there was a message telling me that before the end of December my connection would be upgraded to 150mb
[20:31] <popey> you still on mates rates?
[20:31] <bigcalm> Na, I had to ditch it
[20:31] <popey> i never login to mine
[20:32] <bigcalm> We've dropped TV because we don't use it. Now just have 'net and phone (phone is hardly used either)
[20:32] <bigcalm> I only login to my vm account when they dick around with our bill
[20:33] <bigcalm> The £20pcm loyalty credit turned out to only last 1 year. Our bill went back up to £63pcm.
[20:33] <bigcalm> Hayley and I decided that it was too much for 3 services where we only really use one of them
[20:33] <popey> mine is currently 64.49
[20:33] <bigcalm> That's the number
[20:34] <bigcalm> There's a sky dish on the house, left over from the previous owners. So I bought a freesat box
[20:34] <bigcalm> Working well so far
[20:34] <popey> yeah, i used to have sky, so plugged the cable into the telly
[20:34] <popey> telly does freesat hd and if I plug a USB disk in it turns the telly into a PVR
[20:35] <bigcalm> Funky
[20:38] <popey> not that I ever watch freesat :)
[20:39] <bigcalm> http://help.virginmedia.com/system/selfservice.controller?CMD=VIEW_ARTICLE&ARTICLE_ID=51538&CURRENT_CMD=SEARCH&CONFIGURATION=1001&PARTITION_ID=1&USERTYPE=1&LANGUAGE=en&COUNTY=us&VM_CUSTOMER_TYPE=Cable
[20:40] <bigcalm> We're on VIVID100, and I expect that you are as well
[20:41] <popey> i am
[20:42] <popey> "Your speed boost is almost ready!"
[20:42] <diddledan__> mine's not until april at the earliest :-(
[20:42] <popey> end of december
[20:43] <bigcalm> I recently got a letter from VM saying that they would be doing maintenance on the 15th December and my 'net connection would be up and down. I guess that's when the update will happen for me
[20:43] <diddledan__> they claimed the network would be ready back in september but neglected to mention that "september" really meant "when we feel like it"
[20:47] <bigcalm> It's always been a finger in the air date
[20:48] <bigcalm> Quite happy with my 12.7MB/s
[20:48] <bigcalm> Wonder what I'll get with 150mb
[21:19] <diddledan__> bigcalm: I think you'll get cooties
[21:20] <diddledan__> bigcalm: all that unfettered internet is bad for you
[22:40] <diddledan__> http://www.ustream.tv/NASAHDTV/theater
[22:40] <diddledan__> flaming ballocket again
[22:40] <diddledan__> weather is green right now so we might actually get a launch today
[22:41] <diddledan__> entering terminal count
[22:42] <diddledan__> T0 at 22:48:12
[22:44] <diddledan__> clock resumed at 4:00
[22:44] <diddledan__> we're in terminal count
[22:44] <diddledan__> flight control nogo
[22:45] <diddledan__> holding at 3:42
[22:46] <diddledan__> clock reset to 4minutes
[22:47] <diddledan__> T0 now set at 23:03:12
[22:49] <diddledan__> that reset was due to being too windy
[22:59] <diddledan__> count resumed
[22:59] <diddledan__> that's it. nogo
[23:00] <diddledan__> scrubbing for today
[23:10] <diddledan__> https://twitter.com/themagp1/status/672915699233398785