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flocculant | morning | 09:55 |
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flocculant | !team | meeting in 15 minutes or so | 11:43 |
ubottu | meeting in 15 minutes or so: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 | 11:43 |
bluesabre | wooooo | 11:50 |
flocculant | factoid's out of date | 11:52 |
Unit193 | Fixed. | 11:59 |
flocculant | Unit193 is so obviously "here" now :p | 12:00 |
flocculant | #startmeeting | 12:00 |
meetingology | Meeting started Fri Dec 4 12:00:33 2015 UTC. The chair is flocculant. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 12:00 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 12:00 |
flocculant | who's here then :) | 12:00 |
bluesabre | o/ | 12:01 |
flocculant | #topic Open action items | 12:02 |
flocculant | two of these | 12:02 |
flocculant | ochosi's got done | 12:02 |
flocculant | knome's not - I guess just keep that going - if he want's to get someone else to do it :) | 12:03 |
flocculant | #ACTION: knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # | 12:03 |
flocculant | #action knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # | 12:03 |
meetingology | ACTION: : knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # | 12:03 |
meetingology | ACTION: knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # | 12:03 |
flocculant | omg | 12:03 |
flocculant | #undo | 12:03 |
meetingology | Removing item from minutes: ACTION | 12:03 |
bluesabre | #info: making steady progress on the wallpaper submission/voting tool, will be putting it up on github this weekend for others to pitch in | 12:04 |
flocculant | meetingbot needs winding up | 12:04 |
flocculant | bluesabre: we going straight to updates then :p | 12:04 |
bluesabre | oh | 12:04 |
bluesabre | well | 12:04 |
bluesabre | thats an open action item | 12:04 |
bluesabre | (bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface for the wallpaper contest) | 12:05 |
flocculant | oh yes - sorry bluesabre :) | 12:05 |
bluesabre | :p | 12:05 |
flocculant | headachy here | 12:05 |
flocculant | already :p | 12:05 |
flocculant | hi micahg_mobile :) | 12:05 |
bluesabre | sleepy here | 12:05 |
bluesabre | hey micahg_mobile | 12:05 |
micahg_mobile | Hi | 12:06 |
flocculant | #topic Updates and Announcements | 12:06 |
flocculant | let's get the announcements done first | 12:06 |
flocculant | #info gmusicbrowser removed from seed | 12:06 |
flocculant | that's that then | 12:07 |
flocculant | any updates from people not on the tracker | 12:07 |
bluesabre | yup | 12:07 |
bluesabre | its a slow start for m | 12:07 |
bluesabre | e | 12:07 |
flocculant | :) | 12:07 |
flocculant | #info QA ran IRC testing session on sunday - thanks axkwi-dave | 12:08 |
flocculant | #info QA will do another session between A2 and B1 | 12:08 |
bluesabre | good job | 12:08 |
flocculant | bit more specific on packages | 12:09 |
flocculant | #info VPS from pleia2 logs > jcastro is going to see if he can find us some vendor he has contacts with to donate something to us, we'll see | 12:09 |
bluesabre | nice | 12:10 |
flocculant | nothing else from me | 12:10 |
bluesabre | nothing here | 12:10 |
flocculant | micahg_mobile: got anything? | 12:10 |
micahg_mobile | Not at this time | 12:10 |
flocculant | okey doke | 12:11 |
flocculant | #topic Discussion | 12:11 |
flocculant | #sub-topic | 12:11 |
flocculant | meh | 12:11 |
flocculant | #sub-topic Volunteers for running a 16.04 Community Wallpaper contest? | 12:11 |
flocculant | #subtopic Volunteers for running a 16.04 Community Wallpaper contest? | 12:11 |
flocculant | not much to do here - waiting on both meetingbot and knome | 12:12 |
flocculant | #subtopic Ubuntu Software Center | 12:12 |
flocculant | same type of thing unless anyone knows anything solid | 12:12 |
bluesabre | yeah, we might also be using the webapp I am working on for this, which should reduce the workload for submitting, validating, and voting on wps | 12:12 |
flocculant | #undo | 12:13 |
meetingology | Removing item from minutes: SUBTOPIC | 12:13 |
bluesabre | #info we might also be using the webapp I am working on for this, which should reduce the workload for submitting, validating, and voting on wps | 12:13 |
flocculant | bluesabre: ok - that'll help I suspect | 12:13 |
bluesabre | yes | 12:13 |
flocculant | but I guess the stumbling block will be managing to get volunteer(S) | 12:13 |
bluesabre | yes, getting submissions, and then getting folks that want to vote | 12:14 |
micahg_mobile | What's the issue with USC? | 12:14 |
flocculant | bluesabre: anymore? | 12:14 |
flocculant | micahg_mobile: sorry - got ahead of myself on that :D | 12:15 |
micahg_mobile | Ah, ok | 12:15 |
bluesabre | ready for usc | 12:15 |
flocculant | #subtopic Ubuntu Software Center | 12:15 |
flocculant | micahg_mobile: if Ubuntu aren't going to use it for 16.04 will it get any sort of support? | 12:16 |
flocculant | oh dear | 12:16 |
bluesabre | micahg_mobile: ubuntu is switching to gnome-software for 16.04 and beyond | 12:16 |
bluesabre | welp | 12:16 |
bluesabre | :D | 12:16 |
flocculant | he's gone ... | 12:16 |
flocculant | wait for him to get back :p | 12:16 |
bluesabre | micahg_mobile: ubuntu is switching to gnome-software for 16.04 and beyond | 12:16 |
flocculant | micahg_mobile: if Ubuntu aren't going to use it for 16.04 will it get any sort of support? | 12:16 |
flocculant | and if not - do we use something we know won't get support? | 12:17 |
flocculant | or do we move as well | 12:17 |
micahg_mobile | Ah, yeah, we should follow Ubuntu if they're using a GTK package | 12:17 |
bluesabre | that's my general feeling as well | 12:18 |
flocculant | right | 12:18 |
micahg_mobile | It's not python 3 ready and they're going python 3 only for the ISO (or at least trying to) | 12:18 |
flocculant | I don't know if eventually it needs a vote or one of those Tech Lead prerogative things - but no rush as long as we're aware | 12:18 |
micahg_mobile | Which reminds me, that might be nice for us too :) | 12:19 |
bluesabre | yes | 12:19 |
bluesabre | that should help the iso bloat | 12:19 |
flocculant | at which point micahg_mobile can sort out the oversize warning :D | 12:20 |
micahg_mobile | Though, if our LTS support cycle is still only 3 years, we can wait until the next LTS as 2.7 is supported until 2020 | 12:20 |
micahg_mobile | Heh, yeah, we'll need to discuss ISO size soon | 12:20 |
flocculant | I can't imagine us making support length longer | 12:21 |
Spass_ | hello | 12:21 |
flocculant | hi Spass_ | 12:21 |
bluesabre | hello Spass_ | 12:21 |
micahg_mobile | We're 150MB over right now | 12:21 |
bluesabre | and that will probably get worse before it gets better | 12:21 |
micahg_mobile | Well, USC being swapped out might actually reduce it a little bit | 12:22 |
Spass_ | is it true that mozilla is droping thunderbird? | 12:22 |
flocculant | Spass_: I heard something - but right now we're in the middle of a meeting :) | 12:22 |
Spass_ | ups, sorry :) | 12:23 |
flocculant | I guess atm all we need to is watch for noises that the gnome app is actually available | 12:23 |
knome | flocculant, re: mail for wallpaper contest, i'll push that forward when i have time | 12:23 |
flocculant | knome: yep :) | 12:24 |
flocculant | anyone want to spend more time on USC? not sure there's much we can do other than be aware - which we are | 12:24 |
bluesabre | that's it from me | 12:25 |
micahg_mobile | I'm good | 12:25 |
flocculant | #subtopic google code-in | 12:25 |
flocculant | #info QA added a couple of tasks for people to test iso and packages | 12:26 |
flocculant | bluesabre: what I'd really like to do is maybe add something along the lines of what I pinged you with | 12:26 |
bluesabre | flocculant: yes, is there a place where we are storing these tasks/ideas? | 12:26 |
flocculant | but happy not too if you think it's going to cause more trouble than it's worth :) | 12:26 |
flocculant | bluesabre: nope - I've just had them in my head :D | 12:26 |
micahg_mobile | Any GTK 3 porting needed? | 12:26 |
micahg_mobile | Or python 3 | 12:27 |
knome | bluesabre, poke jose | 12:27 |
flocculant | bluesabre: http://pad.ubuntu.com/GCI | 12:27 |
bluesabre | knome: I'd like to get our list in a place then poke jose with ^ pad | 12:27 |
flocculant | poking jose won't help here | 12:27 |
knome | aha | 12:28 |
knome | anyway, the deadline for the submissions from us is close | 12:28 |
flocculant | and we don't need to poke anyone else - I can add them - might need Nick to add someone like bluesabre as a mentor is all :) | 12:28 |
flocculant | deadline is 7th | 12:28 |
flocculant | but | 12:28 |
knome | he's (jose) been assigned to be in touch with the flavors | 12:28 |
flocculant | we can add tasks during the time it is live I am told | 12:28 |
knome | so i would be in touch with him about potential stuff incoming | 12:29 |
flocculant | knome: yes but rather pointless if there's someone in team using the m/l and in the channel :) | 12:29 |
flocculant | which is all stuff no-one really knows here - because it's only just come up :) | 12:30 |
knome | i just think it would be good/fair to be in touch with him as he's been poking me about this on PM | 12:31 |
knome | i just told him to join this channel too, but he's likely sleeping now | 12:31 |
flocculant | oh - I'll ping him in the channel about it then :) | 12:31 |
bluesabre | :D | 12:31 |
knome | in whatever channel, yeah | 12:31 |
knome | mostly just to say "we might have X" | 12:32 |
flocculant | bluesabre: that ^^ pad then | 12:32 |
knome | so he's informed about it | 12:32 |
knome | and able to react to it when need be | 12:32 |
knome | and stuff | 12:32 |
flocculant | :) | 12:32 |
flocculant | bluesabre: so I'll let you think about that :D | 12:33 |
bluesabre | flocculant: will do | 12:33 |
flocculant | anymore on that? | 12:34 |
flocculant | anyone got anything else to bring up if not :) | 12:34 |
knome | i'll try to have some time to look the pad with thought | 12:35 |
knome | oh, it's not too much... | 12:35 |
knome | :P | 12:35 |
bluesabre | flocculant: nothing more from me | 12:35 |
knome | i'll try to figure out if we want something else then | 12:35 |
bluesabre | micahg_mobile must be on a train | 12:35 |
flocculant | knome: yea - it's sparse :p | 12:35 |
flocculant | ha ha ha | 12:35 |
flocculant | knome: what we there thinking about was getting someone to confirm some new bugs and upstream them | 12:36 |
knome | yeah | 12:36 |
flocculant | just wondering about what package | 12:36 |
micahg | no, just a crashy chat client | 12:36 |
flocculant | micahg: :) | 12:36 |
knome | what about screen locking problems and that stuff specifically? | 12:36 |
knome | bluesabre? | 12:36 |
bluesabre | knome: yes that could be beneficial | 12:37 |
flocculant | knome: sounds useful to me | 12:37 |
bluesabre | and more hardware variety could mean more potential solutions | 12:37 |
knome | yes | 12:37 |
flocculant | bluesabre: yea | 12:37 |
bluesabre | maybe we can get cavalier as a mentor on for that as well | 12:37 |
knome | i would probably list that as one of the items for us | 12:37 |
knome | but there is no clear goal for that | 12:37 |
bluesabre | ochosi may be interested with the lines around here | 12:37 |
knome | well expect "make sure it works" | 12:37 |
knome | bluesabre, in 16.04, when the login screen appears, it blinks black | 12:38 |
knome | is that known? | 12:38 |
flocculant | knome: I've seen mention elsewhere - but not seen it myself | 12:38 |
knome | ok - i have it on nvidia and integrated intel... | 12:38 |
knome | i can help debug it $later | 12:39 |
knome | but smoothening things like that would be ++ | 12:39 |
bluesabre | knome: alrighty, did not know that was back | 12:39 |
knome | apparently it is | 12:39 |
knome | i didn't have it on 15.10 | 12:39 |
knome | wait | 12:39 |
bluesabre | btw, cooking and getting ready for work, in case I drop off here and there | 12:39 |
knome | i have it on 15.10 | 12:39 |
knome | i didn't have it on 15.04 | 12:39 |
flocculant | knome: I'll see if I can dig it out - but, not seen it mentioned on Xubuntu | 12:39 |
knome | silly.. | 12:39 |
knome | flocculant, i saw one person ask about it on #xubuntu | 12:40 |
flocculant | ok | 12:40 |
knome | apparently it doesn't block keyboard input | 12:40 |
knome | i can't remember if he said that there was some problems with kb layouts or not | 12:40 |
knome | eg. the right kb layout was only initiated after the blink | 12:40 |
knome | but yeah, i'll get back to this later | 12:40 |
flocculant | ok - so anything else? | 12:41 |
knome | i don't think so at this point | 12:41 |
knome | well maybe except | 12:41 |
flocculant | micahg bluesabre ? | 12:41 |
flocculant | :) | 12:42 |
knome | even if i'm going to be busy, i intend to be more or less active as previously | 12:42 |
bluesabre | nothing more atm | 12:42 |
knome | so feel free to leave me PM's, pings or emails and i'll likely respond to them in a few days at most | 12:42 |
flocculant | knome: :) | 12:42 |
micahg | I can try to have a look at ubuntu core again | 12:42 |
micahg | s/ubuntu/xubuntu/ | 12:43 |
knome | ok, bbl -< | 12:43 |
flocculant | micahg: oh that would be useful - people have pinged slangasek about it since we started this cycle | 12:43 |
bluesabre | micahg: I took a look at those the other day, they still look good and merge conflicts are mainly in debian changelog | 12:43 |
flocculant | micahg: can I action that? | 12:43 |
bluesabre | or with bzr just failing to merge | 12:44 |
bluesabre | but feel free to give those a good push :D | 12:44 |
micahg | resolving the conflicts would be good, but ideally, if all the comments are addressed, I'd like to at least get an ACK from the CD team, I can do relevant uploads | 12:44 |
bluesabre | right | 12:45 |
flocculant | #action micahg to look at the xubuntu core issue | 12:45 |
meetingology | ACTION: micahg to look at the xubuntu core issue | 12:45 |
bluesabre | its a moving target, with constant changes and uploads, so it'd be best to resolve right before merging/uploading | 12:45 |
micahg | makes sense | 12:46 |
flocculant | obviously if we're still trying to do this then I'd prefer it done as soon as practical so we can get other eyes on it via testing | 12:46 |
flocculant | anymore peeps? | 12:48 |
bluesabre | nope | 12:48 |
flocculant | #topic Schedule next meeting | 12:49 |
flocculant | not sure how I got shoved up the list last time - so starting again from the top :p | 12:49 |
flocculant | #action Unit193 to schedule the next meeting | 12:49 |
meetingology | ACTION: Unit193 to schedule the next meeting | 12:49 |
flocculant | #endmeeting | 12:49 |
meetingology | Meeting ended Fri Dec 4 12:49:54 2015 UTC. | 12:49 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-12-04-12.00.moin.txt | 12:49 |
flocculant | thanks bluesabre micahg knome :) | 12:50 |
micahg | oh, I was going to say we should announce the new CC in case people missed it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-November/001162.html | 12:50 |
flocculant | oh | 12:50 |
micahg | thanks flocculant | 12:53 |
flocculant | oh meh | 12:53 |
flocculant | didn't subtopic the cd discussion ... | 12:53 |
flocculant | oh well - can't go back - logs are done now | 12:53 |
flocculant | micahg: glad to be able to shift the time so you could be here :) | 12:54 |
flocculant | off for a while now - have a good day everyone :) | 12:56 |
knome | posted http://open.knome.fi/2015/12/04/clock-applets-xfce-panel-xubuntu-1510/ | 18:23 |
pleia2 | Orage4ever | 19:48 |
pleia2 | G+ and fb shared too | 19:50 |
flocculant | evening pleia2 | 20:24 |
knome | pleia2, cheers :) | 21:22 |
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