=== therealnanotube is now known as nanotube [09:55] morning [11:43] !team | meeting in 15 minutes or so [11:43] meeting in 15 minutes or so: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 [11:50] wooooo [11:52] factoid's out of date [11:59] Fixed. [12:00] Unit193 is so obviously "here" now :p [12:00] #startmeeting [12:00] Meeting started Fri Dec 4 12:00:33 2015 UTC. The chair is flocculant. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [12:00] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [12:00] who's here then :) [12:01] o/ [12:02] #topic Open action items [12:02] two of these [12:02] ochosi's got done [12:03] knome's not - I guess just keep that going - if he want's to get someone else to do it :) [12:03] #ACTION: knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # [12:03] #action knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # [12:03] ACTION: : knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # [12:03] ACTION: knome to send a mail about volunteers to run the wallpaper contest # [12:03] omg [12:03] #undo [12:03] Removing item from minutes: ACTION [12:04] #info: making steady progress on the wallpaper submission/voting tool, will be putting it up on github this weekend for others to pitch in [12:04] meetingbot needs winding up [12:04] bluesabre: we going straight to updates then :p [12:04] oh [12:04] well [12:04] thats an open action item [12:05] (bluesabre to look into creating a submission/voting interface for the wallpaper contest) [12:05] oh yes - sorry bluesabre :) [12:05] :p [12:05] headachy here [12:05] already :p [12:05] hi micahg_mobile :) [12:05] sleepy here [12:05] hey micahg_mobile [12:06] Hi [12:06] #topic Updates and Announcements [12:06] let's get the announcements done first [12:06] #info gmusicbrowser removed from seed [12:07] that's that then [12:07] any updates from people not on the tracker [12:07] yup [12:07] its a slow start for m [12:07] e [12:07] :) [12:08] #info QA ran IRC testing session on sunday - thanks axkwi-dave [12:08] #info QA will do another session between A2 and B1 [12:08] good job [12:09] bit more specific on packages [12:09] #info VPS from pleia2 logs > jcastro is going to see if he can find us some vendor he has contacts with to donate something to us, we'll see [12:10] nice [12:10] nothing else from me [12:10] nothing here [12:10] micahg_mobile: got anything? [12:10] Not at this time [12:11] okey doke [12:11] #topic Discussion [12:11] #sub-topic [12:11] meh [12:11] #sub-topic Volunteers for running a 16.04 Community Wallpaper contest? [12:11] #subtopic Volunteers for running a 16.04 Community Wallpaper contest? [12:12] not much to do here - waiting on both meetingbot and knome [12:12] #subtopic Ubuntu Software Center [12:12] same type of thing unless anyone knows anything solid [12:12] yeah, we might also be using the webapp I am working on for this, which should reduce the workload for submitting, validating, and voting on wps [12:13] #undo [12:13] Removing item from minutes: SUBTOPIC [12:13] #info we might also be using the webapp I am working on for this, which should reduce the workload for submitting, validating, and voting on wps [12:13] bluesabre: ok - that'll help I suspect [12:13] yes [12:13] but I guess the stumbling block will be managing to get volunteer(S) [12:14] yes, getting submissions, and then getting folks that want to vote [12:14] What's the issue with USC? [12:14] bluesabre: anymore? [12:15] micahg_mobile: sorry - got ahead of myself on that :D [12:15] Ah, ok [12:15] ready for usc [12:15] #subtopic Ubuntu Software Center [12:16] micahg_mobile: if Ubuntu aren't going to use it for 16.04 will it get any sort of support? [12:16] oh dear [12:16] micahg_mobile: ubuntu is switching to gnome-software for 16.04 and beyond [12:16] welp [12:16] :D [12:16] he's gone ... [12:16] wait for him to get back :p [12:16] micahg_mobile: ubuntu is switching to gnome-software for 16.04 and beyond [12:16] micahg_mobile: if Ubuntu aren't going to use it for 16.04 will it get any sort of support? [12:17] and if not - do we use something we know won't get support? [12:17] or do we move as well [12:17] Ah, yeah, we should follow Ubuntu if they're using a GTK package [12:18] that's my general feeling as well [12:18] right [12:18] It's not python 3 ready and they're going python 3 only for the ISO (or at least trying to) [12:18] I don't know if eventually it needs a vote or one of those Tech Lead prerogative things - but no rush as long as we're aware [12:19] Which reminds me, that might be nice for us too :) [12:19] yes [12:19] that should help the iso bloat [12:20] at which point micahg_mobile can sort out the oversize warning :D [12:20] Though, if our LTS support cycle is still only 3 years, we can wait until the next LTS as 2.7 is supported until 2020 [12:20] Heh, yeah, we'll need to discuss ISO size soon [12:21] I can't imagine us making support length longer [12:21] hello [12:21] hi Spass_ [12:21] hello Spass_ [12:21] We're 150MB over right now [12:21] and that will probably get worse before it gets better [12:22] Well, USC being swapped out might actually reduce it a little bit [12:22] is it true that mozilla is droping thunderbird? [12:22] Spass_: I heard something - but right now we're in the middle of a meeting :) [12:23] ups, sorry :) [12:23] I guess atm all we need to is watch for noises that the gnome app is actually available [12:23] flocculant, re: mail for wallpaper contest, i'll push that forward when i have time [12:24] knome: yep :) [12:24] anyone want to spend more time on USC? not sure there's much we can do other than be aware - which we are [12:25] that's it from me [12:25] I'm good [12:25] #subtopic google code-in [12:26] #info QA added a couple of tasks for people to test iso and packages [12:26] bluesabre: what I'd really like to do is maybe add something along the lines of what I pinged you with [12:26] flocculant: yes, is there a place where we are storing these tasks/ideas? [12:26] but happy not too if you think it's going to cause more trouble than it's worth :) [12:26] bluesabre: nope - I've just had them in my head :D [12:26] Any GTK 3 porting needed? [12:27] Or python 3 [12:27] bluesabre, poke jose [12:27] bluesabre: http://pad.ubuntu.com/GCI [12:27] knome: I'd like to get our list in a place then poke jose with ^ pad [12:27] poking jose won't help here [12:28] aha [12:28] anyway, the deadline for the submissions from us is close [12:28] and we don't need to poke anyone else - I can add them - might need Nick to add someone like bluesabre as a mentor is all :) [12:28] deadline is 7th [12:28] but [12:28] he's (jose) been assigned to be in touch with the flavors [12:28] we can add tasks during the time it is live I am told [12:29] so i would be in touch with him about potential stuff incoming [12:29] knome: yes but rather pointless if there's someone in team using the m/l and in the channel :) [12:30] which is all stuff no-one really knows here - because it's only just come up :) [12:31] i just think it would be good/fair to be in touch with him as he's been poking me about this on PM [12:31] i just told him to join this channel too, but he's likely sleeping now [12:31] oh - I'll ping him in the channel about it then :) [12:31] :D [12:31] in whatever channel, yeah [12:32] mostly just to say "we might have X" [12:32] bluesabre: that ^^ pad then [12:32] so he's informed about it [12:32] and able to react to it when need be [12:32] and stuff [12:32] :) [12:33] bluesabre: so I'll let you think about that :D [12:33] flocculant: will do [12:34] anymore on that? [12:34] anyone got anything else to bring up if not :) [12:35] i'll try to have some time to look the pad with thought [12:35] oh, it's not too much... [12:35] :P [12:35] flocculant: nothing more from me [12:35] i'll try to figure out if we want something else then [12:35] micahg_mobile must be on a train [12:35] knome: yea - it's sparse :p [12:35] ha ha ha [12:36] knome: what we there thinking about was getting someone to confirm some new bugs and upstream them [12:36] yeah [12:36] just wondering about what package [12:36] no, just a crashy chat client [12:36] micahg: :) [12:36] what about screen locking problems and that stuff specifically? [12:36] bluesabre? [12:37] knome: yes that could be beneficial [12:37] knome: sounds useful to me [12:37] and more hardware variety could mean more potential solutions [12:37] yes [12:37] bluesabre: yea [12:37] maybe we can get cavalier as a mentor on for that as well [12:37] i would probably list that as one of the items for us [12:37] but there is no clear goal for that [12:37] ochosi may be interested with the lines around here [12:37] well expect "make sure it works" [12:38] bluesabre, in 16.04, when the login screen appears, it blinks black [12:38] is that known? [12:38] knome: I've seen mention elsewhere - but not seen it myself [12:38] ok - i have it on nvidia and integrated intel... [12:39] i can help debug it $later [12:39] but smoothening things like that would be ++ [12:39] knome: alrighty, did not know that was back [12:39] apparently it is [12:39] i didn't have it on 15.10 [12:39] wait [12:39] btw, cooking and getting ready for work, in case I drop off here and there [12:39] i have it on 15.10 [12:39] i didn't have it on 15.04 [12:39] knome: I'll see if I can dig it out - but, not seen it mentioned on Xubuntu [12:39] silly.. [12:40] flocculant, i saw one person ask about it on #xubuntu [12:40] ok [12:40] apparently it doesn't block keyboard input [12:40] i can't remember if he said that there was some problems with kb layouts or not [12:40] eg. the right kb layout was only initiated after the blink [12:40] but yeah, i'll get back to this later [12:41] ok - so anything else? [12:41] i don't think so at this point [12:41] well maybe except [12:41] micahg bluesabre ? [12:42] :) [12:42] even if i'm going to be busy, i intend to be more or less active as previously [12:42] nothing more atm [12:42] so feel free to leave me PM's, pings or emails and i'll likely respond to them in a few days at most [12:42] knome: :) [12:42] I can try to have a look at ubuntu core again [12:43] s/ubuntu/xubuntu/ [12:43] ok, bbl -< [12:43] micahg: oh that would be useful - people have pinged slangasek about it since we started this cycle [12:43] micahg: I took a look at those the other day, they still look good and merge conflicts are mainly in debian changelog [12:43] micahg: can I action that? [12:44] or with bzr just failing to merge [12:44] but feel free to give those a good push :D [12:44] resolving the conflicts would be good, but ideally, if all the comments are addressed, I'd like to at least get an ACK from the CD team, I can do relevant uploads [12:45] right [12:45] #action micahg to look at the xubuntu core issue [12:45] ACTION: micahg to look at the xubuntu core issue [12:45] its a moving target, with constant changes and uploads, so it'd be best to resolve right before merging/uploading [12:46] makes sense [12:46] obviously if we're still trying to do this then I'd prefer it done as soon as practical so we can get other eyes on it via testing [12:48] anymore peeps? [12:48] nope [12:49] #topic Schedule next meeting [12:49] not sure how I got shoved up the list last time - so starting again from the top :p [12:49] #action Unit193 to schedule the next meeting [12:49] ACTION: Unit193 to schedule the next meeting [12:49] #endmeeting [12:49] Meeting ended Fri Dec 4 12:49:54 2015 UTC. [12:49] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-12-04-12.00.moin.txt [12:50] thanks bluesabre micahg knome :) [12:50] oh, I was going to say we should announce the new CC in case people missed it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-November/001162.html [12:50] oh [12:53] thanks flocculant [12:53] oh meh [12:53] didn't subtopic the cd discussion ... [12:53] oh well - can't go back - logs are done now [12:54] micahg: glad to be able to shift the time so you could be here :) [12:56] off for a while now - have a good day everyone :) [18:23] posted http://open.knome.fi/2015/12/04/clock-applets-xfce-panel-xubuntu-1510/ [19:48] Orage4ever [19:50] G+ and fb shared too [20:24] evening pleia2 [21:22] pleia2, cheers :) === mcs_ is now known as Guest52689