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| BoomerBile | Ok, so i only have a kubuntu installation dvd, so i installed kubuntu... then i switched to lubuntu from kubuntu by installing lubuntu-desktop and removed all of the kubuntu stuff and then I cloned an lubuntu install from my netbook to this machine to make sure that i had everything... everything is running fine except | 06:40 |
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| BoomerBile | lightdm will not start on system boot | 06:41 |
| BoomerBile | any suggestions? | 06:41 |
| phillw | BoomerBile: is it not starting or just not offered as an option? | 06:44 |
| BoomerBile | I reboot and i get a login prompt, then i have to service lightdm start | 06:45 |
| BoomerBile | I added it with rc-update.d defaults | 06:45 |
| BoomerBile | but that didn't seem to do anything | 06:45 |
| BoomerBile | not sure how runlevels work in ubuntu, i normally use gentoo | 06:46 |
| phillw | BoomerBile: you should be on run level 5 | 06:47 |
| BoomerBile | how do I check runlevels in ubuntu? | 06:47 |
| BoomerBile | in gentoo i use rc-update -s | 06:47 |
| BoomerBile | or just rc-update | 06:47 |
| BoomerBile | or rc-status | 06:48 |
| phillw | yup... | 06:48 |
| phillw | simply type | 06:48 |
| phillw | runlevel | 06:48 |
| phillw | you should have a 5 | 06:48 |
| BoomerBile | # runlevel \n N 5 | 06:49 |
| phillw | ignore the N ... it is there just to annoy :P | 06:49 |
| phillw | you are on correct run level. As I'm unsure of what you have been tinkering with I'd suggest having a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/74551/lightdm-not-starting-on-boot and if that does not work, we can dig further. | 06:51 |
| BoomerBile | ok thanks let me check that out | 06:51 |
| BoomerBile | my /etc/X11/default-display-manager already contains the valid entry as described... dpkg already asked me what to use as my display manager and i answered it lightdm instead of sscm or what not... and i have the correct nvidia driver installed | 06:55 |
| BoomerBile | i haven't messed with much | 06:55 |
| BoomerBile | basically here are the steps i took | 06:55 |
| BoomerBile | 1. install kubuntu 15.04 64 bit | 06:56 |
| BoomerBile | 2. install synaptic package manager | 06:56 |
| BoomerBile | 3. go to kde sections in synaptic remove all kde packages | 06:56 |
| BoomerBile | 4. install lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-restricted-extras/addons | 06:57 |
| BoomerBile | 5. go to lubuntu 15.10 installed netbook and export all markings (all states) | 06:57 |
| BoomerBile | 6. copy markings to this machine and import into synaptic and install | 06:58 |
| phillw | step 3 was possibly a mistake. | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | 7. answer the question about which display manager to use | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | that's what i figured | 06:58 |
| phillw | what release are you on? | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | but that's what the howto stated to do | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | 15.10 | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | lubuntu | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | well | 06:58 |
| phillw | let me check... | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | technically i'm on kubuntu i guess | 06:58 |
| BoomerBile | ah yea and then step 8 | 06:59 |
| BoomerBile | 8. copy over apt config files and current repos from old machine (/etc/apt) entirely | 06:59 |
| Unit193 | BoomerBile: Open a terminal, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^ && sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm && sudo dpkg --configure -a | 06:59 |
| BoomerBile | aside from that i haven't done a thing, cause everything works fine... just been using it | 07:00 |
| BoomerBile | Unit193, tried that but i'll do it again | 07:00 |
| phillw | bugga .. he's stopped doing them | 07:00 |
| Unit193 | Also, Lubuntu/Kubuntu use systemd, so sudo systemctl enable lightdm | 07:00 |
| phillw | Unit193: permission to post 5 lines of instructions? | 07:01 |
| Unit193 | Just don't make Drone` angry. | 07:02 |
| BoomerBile | Unit193, i tried that already too, here's the new output which is the same as the old output | 07:02 |
| phillw | I've asked him to PM... don't want to upset any rules | 07:02 |
| BoomerBile | sec i have to type it out | 07:02 |
| phillw | BoomerBile: pls reply to PM | 07:03 |
| BoomerBile | http://pastebin.com/ja8jcV2Z | 07:03 |
| BoomerBile | phillw, ponged you | 07:04 |
| phillw | BoomerBile: you have instructions, provided you did not delete the kubuntu meta-package....... | 07:05 |
| BoomerBile | yeah i deleted the meta-package | 07:06 |
| phillw | Unit193: so, what are the odds that the OP has deleted the kubuntu meta package? | 07:06 |
| BoomerBile | and i tried those instructions as well because i'm guessing you're googling to help me, and I tried everything I could find on google | 07:07 |
| phillw | BoomerBile: | 07:07 |
| BoomerBile | i guess the next step will be to chase down what systemd is telling me about those symlinks | 07:07 |
| phillw | nope, that is using tasksel... I'm a server person | 07:07 |
| BoomerBile | i wasn't going to start hacking ubuntu till i asked someone though | 07:07 |
| phillw | sudo apt-get install -y tasksel | 07:08 |
| BoomerBile | you can skip sudo from now on | 07:08 |
| BoomerBile | i don't use sudo i just use the root user | 07:08 |
| BoomerBile | alright never needed tasksel before what's it do/for? | 07:09 |
| phillw | then tasksel | 07:09 |
| phillw | arrow down to kubuntu-desktop put an X in the box and then tab down to completion., allow it to restore itself and then go back and un mark it and mark lubuntu-dekstop. | 07:09 |
| BoomerBile | kk going | 07:10 |
| BoomerBile | 50 of 270 | 07:10 |
| phillw | tasksel is for grown ups, it is what hides behind the pretty pictures you see when installing a standard ISO, lubuntu is the only one who still has an alternate image where you see it do its job :) | 07:11 |
| BoomerBile | i thought about doing this before as well but i thought maybe there was a simpler way like changing a setting or symlink | 07:11 |
| BoomerBile | ah | 07:11 |
| BoomerBile | us gentoo people, we don't get... pretty pictures | 07:11 |
| BoomerBile | when I install an os it's from the cli | 07:11 |
| phillw | BoomerBile: IMHO? Easiest way... have a seperate /home partition and just re-install the operating system :) | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | and i mostly use vim or nano | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | yeah that would be grand | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | only | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | as i've said i only have kubuntu | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | no cdrom | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | no dvd | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | no usb stick | 07:12 |
| Unit193 | When you 'apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^', it's the exact same as installing from taskel. | 07:12 |
| phillw | +1 | 07:12 |
| BoomerBile | normally i also have to wait for everything to compile itself ;) | 07:13 |
| Unit193 | Thus, installing taskself is uneeded. | 07:13 |
| BoomerBile | this instant install stuff is different | 07:13 |
| BoomerBile | i'm chair bound for another 5 weeks so i don't have many options | 07:13 |
| Unit193 | Why exactly are you reinstalling the Kubuntu task if you desire Lubuntu? | 07:13 |
| BoomerBile | i'm actually talking to you from my gentoo system over vnc ;) | 07:13 |
| BoomerBile | kubuntu is bloated, and it crashes and hardly works half the time | 07:13 |
| BoomerBile | kde 3.5 was grand | 07:14 |
| BoomerBile | kde 4+ sucks | 07:14 |
| BoomerBile | Unit193, i'll explain | 07:14 |
| phillw | Unit193: as he likes to blow things up... having tasksel may offer sane solutions as you can keep the meta package and switch a lot more cleanly than blundering around deleting things that you *think* belong to the system you are switching from.... But, Meh... that's just me :D | 07:14 |
| BoomerBile | what phillw is hoping happens is that the old settings are restored because they weren't properly changed | 07:14 |
| BoomerBile | then he's going to have me properly change them | 07:15 |
| BoomerBile | automagically | 07:15 |
| BoomerBile | i could do the same thing with synaptic | 07:15 |
| Unit193 | dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | 07:15 |
| BoomerBile | ? | 07:15 |
| BoomerBile | sorry i don't know the ubuntu tools i'm a gentoo guy lol | 07:15 |
| Unit193 | Things that are listed 'rc' mean it is removed, but config still exists. | 07:15 |
| BoomerBile | you all use these magic tools that do everything for you | 07:15 |
| BoomerBile | i do it all by hand | 07:15 |
| BoomerBile | ok let me try that one | 07:16 |
| Unit193 | Well, not really, no. I don't use synaptic nor software-center, soo. :D | 07:16 |
| phillw | Unit193: I'll leave him to you. There is no point us both arguing over how to best resolve it. | 07:16 |
| BoomerBile | phillw, na, keep talking | 07:16 |
| BoomerBile | i like to learn all sides | 07:16 |
| BoomerBile | one way to skin a cat may lose some meat | 07:16 |
| phillw | BoomerBile: Unit193 out ranks me. I'll stand aside | 07:16 |
| BoomerBile | lol | 07:17 |
| BoomerBile | the student teaches the teacher as much as the teacher teaches the student | 07:17 |
| Unit193 | Meh, not really any 'rankings' in a support channel. Also here quickly I won't be able to pay attention. | 07:17 |
| phillw | Nah, I'm obvously doing it wrong... I defer to you. | 07:18 |
| * phillw goes back to watching best of Britains got Talent... not sure how I ended up on this channel as I parted the last time over similar issues. | 07:19 | |
| BoomerBile | phillw, wrong or not i've started on your path | 07:19 |
| BoomerBile | you have to finish | 07:19 |
| BoomerBile | gah! | 07:19 |
| bioterror | so | 07:41 |
| bioterror | the LightDM still is not starting? | 07:41 |
| jacob_ | ello | 10:52 |
| === scotty is now known as Guest8151 | ||
| === Guest81604 is now known as slidinghorn | ||
| `Red | Hi. Just finished installing lubuntu on Powermac Dual G5. I have a radeon 9600 xt. All I get is a black screen after boot up. This has happened when I installed dabian, mint, and now lubuntu. I googled how to fix this issue (gpu driver possibly). All the results are far too complicated to follow. No way a beginner can resolve this issue with the explanations I've read. Can someone help? | 21:16 |
| `Red | I'm using an Apple display. The old one that connects with a weird dongle that's not quite a DVI. | 21:22 |
| Kamilion | `Red: What's /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? | 22:28 |
| Kamilion | hastebin/pastebin. | 22:28 |
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