[06:40] <BoomerBile> Ok, so i only have a kubuntu installation dvd, so i installed kubuntu... then i switched to lubuntu from kubuntu by installing lubuntu-desktop and removed all of the kubuntu stuff and then I cloned an lubuntu install from my netbook to this machine to make sure that i had everything... everything is running fine except
[06:41] <BoomerBile> lightdm will not start on system boot
[06:41] <BoomerBile> any suggestions?
[06:44] <phillw> BoomerBile: is it not starting or just not offered as an option?
[06:45] <BoomerBile> I reboot and i get a login prompt, then i have to service lightdm start
[06:45] <BoomerBile> I added it with rc-update.d defaults
[06:45] <BoomerBile> but that didn't seem to do anything
[06:46] <BoomerBile> not sure how runlevels work in ubuntu, i normally use gentoo
[06:47] <phillw> BoomerBile: you should be on run level 5
[06:47] <BoomerBile> how do I check runlevels in ubuntu?
[06:47] <BoomerBile> in gentoo i use rc-update -s
[06:47] <BoomerBile> or just rc-update
[06:48] <BoomerBile> or rc-status
[06:48] <phillw> yup...
[06:48] <phillw> simply type
[06:48] <phillw> runlevel
[06:48] <phillw> you should have a 5
[06:49] <BoomerBile> # runlevel \n N 5
[06:49] <phillw> ignore the N ... it is there just to annoy :P
[06:51] <phillw> you are on correct run level. As I'm unsure of what you have been tinkering with I'd suggest having a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/74551/lightdm-not-starting-on-boot and if that does not work, we can dig further.
[06:51] <BoomerBile> ok thanks let me check that out
[06:55] <BoomerBile> my /etc/X11/default-display-manager already contains the valid entry as described... dpkg already asked me what to use as my display manager and i answered it lightdm instead of sscm or what not... and i have the correct nvidia driver installed
[06:55] <BoomerBile> i haven't messed with much
[06:55] <BoomerBile> basically here are the steps i took
[06:56] <BoomerBile> 1. install kubuntu 15.04 64 bit
[06:56] <BoomerBile> 2. install synaptic package manager
[06:56] <BoomerBile> 3. go to kde sections in synaptic remove all kde packages
[06:57] <BoomerBile> 4. install lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-restricted-extras/addons
[06:57] <BoomerBile> 5. go to lubuntu 15.10 installed netbook and export all markings (all states)
[06:58] <BoomerBile> 6. copy markings to this machine and import into synaptic and install
[06:58] <phillw> step 3 was possibly a mistake.
[06:58] <BoomerBile> 7. answer the question about which display manager to use
[06:58] <BoomerBile> that's what i figured
[06:58] <phillw> what release are you on?
[06:58] <BoomerBile> but that's what the howto stated to do
[06:58] <BoomerBile> 15.10
[06:58] <BoomerBile> lubuntu
[06:58] <BoomerBile> well
[06:58] <phillw> let me check...
[06:58] <BoomerBile> technically i'm on kubuntu i guess
[06:59] <BoomerBile> ah yea and then step 8
[06:59] <BoomerBile> 8. copy over apt config files and current repos from old machine (/etc/apt) entirely
[06:59] <Unit193> BoomerBile: Open a terminal,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^ && sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm && sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:00] <BoomerBile> aside from that i haven't done a thing, cause everything works fine... just been using it
[07:00] <BoomerBile> Unit193, tried that but i'll do it again
[07:00] <phillw> bugga .. he's stopped doing them
[07:00] <Unit193> Also, Lubuntu/Kubuntu use systemd, so  sudo systemctl enable lightdm
[07:01] <phillw> Unit193: permission to post 5 lines of instructions?
[07:02] <Unit193> Just don't make Drone` angry.
[07:02] <BoomerBile> Unit193, i tried that already too, here's the new output which is the same as the old output
[07:02] <phillw> I've asked him to PM... don't want to upset any rules
[07:02] <BoomerBile> sec i have to type it out
[07:03] <phillw> BoomerBile: pls reply to PM
[07:03] <BoomerBile> http://pastebin.com/ja8jcV2Z
[07:04] <BoomerBile> phillw, ponged you
[07:05] <phillw> BoomerBile: you have instructions, provided you did not delete the kubuntu meta-package.......
[07:06] <BoomerBile> yeah i deleted the meta-package
[07:06] <phillw> Unit193: so, what are the odds that the OP has deleted the kubuntu meta package?
[07:07] <BoomerBile> and i tried those instructions as well because i'm guessing you're googling to help me, and I tried everything I could find on google
[07:07] <phillw> BoomerBile:
[07:07] <BoomerBile> i guess the next step will be to chase down what systemd is telling me about those symlinks
[07:07] <phillw> nope, that is using tasksel... I'm a server person
[07:07] <BoomerBile> i wasn't going to start hacking ubuntu till i asked someone though
[07:08] <phillw> sudo apt-get install -y tasksel
[07:08] <BoomerBile> you can skip sudo from now on
[07:08] <BoomerBile> i don't use sudo i just use the root user
[07:09] <BoomerBile> alright never needed tasksel before what's it do/for?
[07:09] <phillw> then  tasksel
[07:09] <phillw> arrow down to kubuntu-desktop put an X in the box and then tab down to completion., allow it to restore itself and then go back and un mark it and mark lubuntu-dekstop.
[07:10] <BoomerBile> kk going
[07:10] <BoomerBile> 50 of 270
[07:11] <phillw> tasksel is for grown ups, it is what hides behind the pretty pictures you see when installing a standard ISO, lubuntu is the only one who still has an alternate image where you see it do its job :)
[07:11] <BoomerBile> i thought about doing this before as well but i thought maybe there was a simpler way like changing a setting or symlink
[07:11] <BoomerBile> ah
[07:11] <BoomerBile> us gentoo people, we don't get... pretty pictures
[07:11] <BoomerBile> when I install an os it's from the cli
[07:12] <phillw> BoomerBile: IMHO? Easiest way... have a seperate /home partition and just re-install the operating system :)
[07:12] <BoomerBile> and i mostly use vim or nano
[07:12] <BoomerBile> yeah that would be grand
[07:12] <BoomerBile> only
[07:12] <BoomerBile> as i've said i only have kubuntu
[07:12] <BoomerBile> no cdrom
[07:12] <BoomerBile> no dvd
[07:12] <BoomerBile> no usb stick
[07:12] <Unit193> When you 'apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^', it's the exact same as installing from taskel.
[07:12] <phillw> +1
[07:13] <BoomerBile> normally i also have to wait for everything to compile itself ;)
[07:13] <Unit193> Thus, installing taskself is uneeded.
[07:13] <BoomerBile> this instant install stuff is different
[07:13] <BoomerBile> i'm chair bound for another 5 weeks so i don't have many options
[07:13] <Unit193> Why exactly are you reinstalling the Kubuntu task if you desire Lubuntu?
[07:13] <BoomerBile> i'm actually talking to you from my gentoo system over vnc ;)
[07:13] <BoomerBile> kubuntu is bloated, and it crashes and hardly works half the time
[07:14] <BoomerBile> kde 3.5 was grand
[07:14] <BoomerBile> kde 4+ sucks
[07:14] <BoomerBile> Unit193, i'll explain
[07:14] <phillw> Unit193: as he likes to blow things up... having tasksel may offer sane solutions as you can keep the meta package and switch a lot more cleanly than blundering around deleting things that you *think* belong to the system you are switching from.... But, Meh... that's just me :D
[07:14] <BoomerBile> what phillw is hoping happens is that the old settings are restored because they weren't properly changed
[07:15] <BoomerBile> then he's going to have me properly change them
[07:15] <BoomerBile> automagically
[07:15] <BoomerBile> i could do the same thing with synaptic
[07:15] <Unit193> dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[07:15] <BoomerBile> ?
[07:15] <BoomerBile> sorry i don't know the ubuntu tools i'm a gentoo guy lol
[07:15] <Unit193> Things that are listed 'rc' mean it is removed, but config still exists.
[07:15] <BoomerBile> you all use these magic tools that do everything for you
[07:15] <BoomerBile> i do it all by hand
[07:16] <BoomerBile> ok let me try that one
[07:16] <Unit193> Well, not really, no.  I don't use synaptic nor software-center, soo. :D
[07:16] <phillw> Unit193: I'll leave him to you. There is no point us both arguing over how to best resolve it.
[07:16] <BoomerBile> phillw, na, keep talking
[07:16] <BoomerBile> i like to learn all sides
[07:16] <BoomerBile> one way to skin a cat may lose some meat
[07:16] <phillw> BoomerBile: Unit193 out ranks me. I'll stand aside
[07:17] <BoomerBile> lol
[07:17] <BoomerBile> the student teaches the teacher as much as the teacher teaches the student
[07:17] <Unit193> Meh, not really any 'rankings' in a support channel.  Also here quickly I won't be able to pay attention.
[07:18] <phillw> Nah, I'm obvously doing it wrong... I defer to you.
[07:19]  * phillw goes back to watching best of Britains got Talent... not sure how I ended up on this channel as I parted the last time over similar issues.
[07:19] <BoomerBile> phillw, wrong or not i've started on your path
[07:19] <BoomerBile> you have to finish
[07:19] <BoomerBile> gah!
[07:41] <bioterror> so
[07:41] <bioterror> the LightDM still is not starting?
[10:52] <jacob_> ello
[21:16] <`Red> Hi. Just finished installing lubuntu on Powermac Dual G5. I have a radeon 9600 xt. All I get is a black screen after boot up. This has happened when I installed dabian, mint, and now lubuntu. I googled how to fix this issue (gpu driver possibly). All the results are far too complicated to follow. No way a beginner can resolve this issue with the explanations I've read. Can someone help?
[21:22] <`Red> I'm using an Apple display. The old one that connects with a weird dongle that's not quite a DVI.
[22:28] <Kamilion> `Red: What's /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[22:28] <Kamilion> hastebin/pastebin.