=== SlidingHorn is now known as Guest81604 [06:40] Ok, so i only have a kubuntu installation dvd, so i installed kubuntu... then i switched to lubuntu from kubuntu by installing lubuntu-desktop and removed all of the kubuntu stuff and then I cloned an lubuntu install from my netbook to this machine to make sure that i had everything... everything is running fine except [06:41] lightdm will not start on system boot [06:41] any suggestions? [06:44] BoomerBile: is it not starting or just not offered as an option? [06:45] I reboot and i get a login prompt, then i have to service lightdm start [06:45] I added it with rc-update.d defaults [06:45] but that didn't seem to do anything [06:46] not sure how runlevels work in ubuntu, i normally use gentoo [06:47] BoomerBile: you should be on run level 5 [06:47] how do I check runlevels in ubuntu? [06:47] in gentoo i use rc-update -s [06:47] or just rc-update [06:48] or rc-status [06:48] yup... [06:48] simply type [06:48] runlevel [06:48] you should have a 5 [06:49] # runlevel \n N 5 [06:49] ignore the N ... it is there just to annoy :P [06:51] you are on correct run level. As I'm unsure of what you have been tinkering with I'd suggest having a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/74551/lightdm-not-starting-on-boot and if that does not work, we can dig further. [06:51] ok thanks let me check that out [06:55] my /etc/X11/default-display-manager already contains the valid entry as described... dpkg already asked me what to use as my display manager and i answered it lightdm instead of sscm or what not... and i have the correct nvidia driver installed [06:55] i haven't messed with much [06:55] basically here are the steps i took [06:56] 1. install kubuntu 15.04 64 bit [06:56] 2. install synaptic package manager [06:56] 3. go to kde sections in synaptic remove all kde packages [06:57] 4. install lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-restricted-extras/addons [06:57] 5. go to lubuntu 15.10 installed netbook and export all markings (all states) [06:58] 6. copy markings to this machine and import into synaptic and install [06:58] step 3 was possibly a mistake. [06:58] 7. answer the question about which display manager to use [06:58] that's what i figured [06:58] what release are you on? [06:58] but that's what the howto stated to do [06:58] 15.10 [06:58] lubuntu [06:58] well [06:58] let me check... [06:58] technically i'm on kubuntu i guess [06:59] ah yea and then step 8 [06:59] 8. copy over apt config files and current repos from old machine (/etc/apt) entirely [06:59] BoomerBile: Open a terminal, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^ && sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm && sudo dpkg --configure -a [07:00] aside from that i haven't done a thing, cause everything works fine... just been using it [07:00] Unit193, tried that but i'll do it again [07:00] bugga .. he's stopped doing them [07:00] Also, Lubuntu/Kubuntu use systemd, so sudo systemctl enable lightdm [07:01] Unit193: permission to post 5 lines of instructions? [07:02] Just don't make Drone` angry. [07:02] Unit193, i tried that already too, here's the new output which is the same as the old output [07:02] I've asked him to PM... don't want to upset any rules [07:02] sec i have to type it out [07:03] BoomerBile: pls reply to PM [07:03] http://pastebin.com/ja8jcV2Z [07:04] phillw, ponged you [07:05] BoomerBile: you have instructions, provided you did not delete the kubuntu meta-package....... [07:06] yeah i deleted the meta-package [07:06] Unit193: so, what are the odds that the OP has deleted the kubuntu meta package? [07:07] and i tried those instructions as well because i'm guessing you're googling to help me, and I tried everything I could find on google [07:07] BoomerBile: [07:07] i guess the next step will be to chase down what systemd is telling me about those symlinks [07:07] nope, that is using tasksel... I'm a server person [07:07] i wasn't going to start hacking ubuntu till i asked someone though [07:08] sudo apt-get install -y tasksel [07:08] you can skip sudo from now on [07:08] i don't use sudo i just use the root user [07:09] alright never needed tasksel before what's it do/for? [07:09] then tasksel [07:09] arrow down to kubuntu-desktop put an X in the box and then tab down to completion., allow it to restore itself and then go back and un mark it and mark lubuntu-dekstop. [07:10] kk going [07:10] 50 of 270 [07:11] tasksel is for grown ups, it is what hides behind the pretty pictures you see when installing a standard ISO, lubuntu is the only one who still has an alternate image where you see it do its job :) [07:11] i thought about doing this before as well but i thought maybe there was a simpler way like changing a setting or symlink [07:11] ah [07:11] us gentoo people, we don't get... pretty pictures [07:11] when I install an os it's from the cli [07:12] BoomerBile: IMHO? Easiest way... have a seperate /home partition and just re-install the operating system :) [07:12] and i mostly use vim or nano [07:12] yeah that would be grand [07:12] only [07:12] as i've said i only have kubuntu [07:12] no cdrom [07:12] no dvd [07:12] no usb stick [07:12] When you 'apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^', it's the exact same as installing from taskel. [07:12] +1 [07:13] normally i also have to wait for everything to compile itself ;) [07:13] Thus, installing taskself is uneeded. [07:13] this instant install stuff is different [07:13] i'm chair bound for another 5 weeks so i don't have many options [07:13] Why exactly are you reinstalling the Kubuntu task if you desire Lubuntu? [07:13] i'm actually talking to you from my gentoo system over vnc ;) [07:13] kubuntu is bloated, and it crashes and hardly works half the time [07:14] kde 3.5 was grand [07:14] kde 4+ sucks [07:14] Unit193, i'll explain [07:14] Unit193: as he likes to blow things up... having tasksel may offer sane solutions as you can keep the meta package and switch a lot more cleanly than blundering around deleting things that you *think* belong to the system you are switching from.... But, Meh... that's just me :D [07:14] what phillw is hoping happens is that the old settings are restored because they weren't properly changed [07:15] then he's going to have me properly change them [07:15] automagically [07:15] i could do the same thing with synaptic [07:15] dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii [07:15] ? [07:15] sorry i don't know the ubuntu tools i'm a gentoo guy lol [07:15] Things that are listed 'rc' mean it is removed, but config still exists. [07:15] you all use these magic tools that do everything for you [07:15] i do it all by hand [07:16] ok let me try that one [07:16] Well, not really, no. I don't use synaptic nor software-center, soo. :D [07:16] Unit193: I'll leave him to you. There is no point us both arguing over how to best resolve it. [07:16] phillw, na, keep talking [07:16] i like to learn all sides [07:16] one way to skin a cat may lose some meat [07:16] BoomerBile: Unit193 out ranks me. I'll stand aside [07:17] lol [07:17] the student teaches the teacher as much as the teacher teaches the student [07:17] Meh, not really any 'rankings' in a support channel. Also here quickly I won't be able to pay attention. [07:18] Nah, I'm obvously doing it wrong... I defer to you. [07:19] * phillw goes back to watching best of Britains got Talent... not sure how I ended up on this channel as I parted the last time over similar issues. [07:19] phillw, wrong or not i've started on your path [07:19] you have to finish [07:19] gah! [07:41] so [07:41] the LightDM still is not starting? [10:52] ello === scotty is now known as Guest8151 === Guest81604 is now known as slidinghorn [21:16] <`Red> Hi. Just finished installing lubuntu on Powermac Dual G5. I have a radeon 9600 xt. All I get is a black screen after boot up. This has happened when I installed dabian, mint, and now lubuntu. I googled how to fix this issue (gpu driver possibly). All the results are far too complicated to follow. No way a beginner can resolve this issue with the explanations I've read. Can someone help? [21:22] <`Red> I'm using an Apple display. The old one that connects with a weird dongle that's not quite a DVI. [22:28] `Red: What's /var/log/Xorg.0.log say? [22:28] hastebin/pastebin.