[03:48] <NoklaM> o/
[15:25] <sakrecoer_> hi !
[15:25] <NoklaM> o/
[15:25] <sakrecoer_> i think i just assigned flocculant as reviewer for bug-1183096
[15:26] <sakrecoer_> hi NoklaM :)
[15:28] <NoklaM> How's it going sakrecoer_ 
[15:28] <NoklaM> ?
[15:28] <OvenWerks> bug #1183096
[15:31] <NoklaM> Spent half a night figuring out why the microphone wasn't working
[15:31] <OvenWerks> Hmm there is no link from the bug to the testcase.
[15:32] <NoklaM> Wasn't studios fault although before I realised what was wrong(loose cable) i reinstalled the system temporarly
[15:32] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: https://code.launchpad.net/~sakrecoer/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug-1183096/+linkbug
[15:33] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: where do i find the link to that page...
[15:34] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: "Link a bug report" on: https://code.launchpad.net/~sakrecoer/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug-1183096
[15:34] <NoklaM> sakrecoer_:  if you check your personal launchpad it's there also
[15:34] <NoklaM> linked in i think Code tab
[15:34] <sakrecoer_> ah :) of course :) :faceplaming myself:
[15:34] <sakrecoer_> thanks!
[15:34] <krytarik> Sure.
[15:35] <sakrecoer_> i followed this template to bzr prush: bzr push lp:~username/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug-BUGNO
[15:36] <NoklaM> yup that should do it
[15:36] <sakrecoer_> if i would do that again, but with a different /bug-BUGNO, will it create a new branch? or does bzr... understand the bugnumber?
[15:37] <sakrecoer_> since i had to link the bug from the testcase, i assume it will create a new branch if i change the bug-BUGNO?
[15:37] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: the bugnumber becomes the name of your personal package
[15:38] <OvenWerks> or directory in this case
[15:38] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: Funny commit log, btw. :P
[15:38] <sakrecoer_> why? :)
[15:39] <sakrecoer_> it is my first ever so i expect it to be funky :D
[15:39] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: Generally you'd want the commit messages to reflect the actual changes - and having them all the same doesn't particularly help. :P
[15:40] <OvenWerks> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sakrecoer/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug-1183096/files/head:/testcases/packages/Studio/ lists four test cases. scribuse is the only one with no number.
[15:41] <OvenWerks> Is that assigned later?
[15:41] <NoklaM> Yup after review OvenWerks 
[15:41]  * OvenWerks thought that might be the case
[15:41] <NoklaM> OvenWerks:  mind if i pm you about silly stuff I meant to ask you the other day?
[15:41] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: ok, i'll keep it in mind for next one :)
[15:42] <OvenWerks> ok
[15:44] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: if i make a new manual testcase, should i push it to the same branch althought the LP bug has a different number?
[15:45] <sakrecoer_> or does it matter if i have one brnach for each manual testcase?
[15:46] <NoklaM> I'd work on one file at a time sakrecoer_  , personal experience with bzr, if you work on more then one it gets messy 
[15:46] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: Well, since you follow "bzr push lp:~username/ubuntu-manual-tests/bug-BUGNO", it'll be a different one, of course.
[15:47] <sakrecoer_> ok... i feel like i missing some part of the required informartion...
[15:47] <krytarik> NoklaM: That's not true though.
[15:48] <sakrecoer_> NoklaM: that is confusing,... i need to make one file for each testcase... and if i have to wait for reviewm i will never get them done..
[15:49] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: That's why you push to different branches.
[15:49] <NoklaM> Last time i worked on 2 files with bzr it kept pushing commits to the 1st file where's the commit was 2nd file
[15:49] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: ok... i think i get it :)
[15:50] <krytarik> NoklaM: Because I think you did something wrong there. :P
[15:50] <NoklaM> krytarik: ofc i did something wrong hehe :P
[15:51] <sakrecoer_> butso its perfectly fine to have one new branch for each manual testcase, althought they all are going to end up in the same branch?
[15:52] <NoklaM> branch will be same ubuntu-manual-tests, but each one will have a seprate case
[15:54] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+code?field.lifecycle=MERGED&field.lifecycle-empty-marker=1&field.sort_by=by+most+interesting&field.sort_by-empty-marker=1
[15:54] <krytarik> Illustrates it very well.
[15:55] <sakrecoer_> ok :) now i feel my infor is integer again thanks! :)
[15:58] <krytarik> NoklaM: For example, this isn't right either: '<NoklaM> it's done by bzr commit -m "Text of what you did goes here" filename'.
[15:58] <NoklaM> Isn't it?
[16:00] <NoklaM> krytarik: I'm preaty sure i got it of one of the ubuntu websites
[16:00] <krytarik> NoklaM: In fact, that's how you messed it up. :D
[16:00] <NoklaM> D'oh
[16:01] <krytarik> → http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-reference/commit-help.html
[16:01] <NoklaM> cheers
[16:02] <sakrecoer_> hmm... i also did bzr commit -m "lazytext of what i did"
[16:04] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: what should be done instead? 
[16:04] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: No, that's the right, more usual way.
[16:05] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: hmm... i can't see the difference with what NoklaM wrote...
[16:05] <krytarik> The file name specified.
[16:05] <krytarik> That limits the commit to just that one file.
[16:05] <sakrecoer_> aah! of course hah :) tahnks for your patience krytarik :)
[16:08] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: You're welcome, of course. :)
[16:16] <sakrecoer_> while writing a testcase for blender, some stuff didn't work...
[16:16] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: what should i do then? file a bug?
[16:17] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: Of course.
[16:17] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: best to do a bit of checking first. does ubuntu have the latest that debian has?
[16:18] <sakrecoer_> blender is crashing when choosing jack as sound engine...
[16:18] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: that is: should bug report be the bug itself or pulling in the newer blender
[16:18] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer_: jack is running?
[16:18] <sakrecoer_> yes
[16:19] <OvenWerks> That should not be new code...
[16:19] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: jack is running, touching any of the options in audio makes blender freeze-
[16:20] <OvenWerks> The jack API has not changed for a long time.
[16:24] <sakrecoer_> so what do you suggest i do? 
[16:27]  * OvenWerks open blender
[16:27]  * OvenWerks is now lost :P
[16:27] <OvenWerks> I don't have a clue how to even find how to set audio in blender
[16:30] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: file>user preferences> system tab
[16:31] <NoklaM> i didn't even know blender had audio settings i always thought it only did 3d modeling and such
[16:32] <sakrecoer_> blender is the perfect "blend" between 3d studio max, finalcut, after effects, z-brush, and photoshop
[16:33] <NoklaM> Didn't know that wow
[16:33] <NoklaM> I used it once tho and got lost in the UI
[16:34] <OvenWerks> Ya the learning curve is high
[16:34] <sakrecoer_> check out this short made with it :) https://youtu.be/41hv2tW5Lc4
[16:34] <OvenWerks> I don't have enough of a use for it to go there.
[16:35] <NoklaM> Are those actors or CGI?
[16:35] <sakrecoer_> the difficult part is to learn to 3d terminology, and the 3d "thinking" the UI is very unique and scary at first, but very soon it becomes just aweseom
[16:35] <sakrecoer_> the actors are humans..
[16:35] <sakrecoer_> its the first openmovie whree they mix 3d with real images... its gotten even better now, that was back in 2012 and lots has happened...
[16:36] <sakrecoer_> did i mention how much i love blender ? :D
[16:37] <sakrecoer_> OvenWerks: it works! but you have to set blender to use JACK before jack is started :)
[16:37] <sakrecoer_> then save user settings, quit blender, start jack, open blender and set AV-sync
[16:38] <sakrecoer_> so feature, not bug :D
[16:38] <sakrecoer_> i wish all blender build would come with jack, turns blender into a great VSE with ardour for the audio part :)
[16:43] <NoklaM> sakrecoer_:  that was one weird short, i have no idea what I've just watched, but it looks like blender capabilities are just wow
[16:51] <sakrecoer_> NoklaM: yeah... the scenarios of the openmovies are not always very good... i think they work on it collectively a bit like surrealist used to do: cadaver exquis :)
[16:54] <sakrecoer_> wb NoklaM :)
[16:55] <sakrecoer_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exquisite_corpse this is what the openmovie scenario remind me of... sorry for OT..
[17:05] <krytarik> zequence: So, let's have an offtopic channel, too! :P
[17:06]  * sakrecoer_ puts on shamehat and walks over to corner
[17:06] <sakrecoer_> :)
[17:12] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: Like I indicated, no need to feel bad here. :)
[17:15] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: (^^,) thanks! 
[17:19] <krytarik> zequence: Ftm, is there a particular reason why this one has the 's' mode?  ("This channel will not appear on channel lists or WHO or WHOIS output unless you are on it.")
[17:34] <OvenWerks> krytarik: becasue that way we don't get #ubuntustudio types of questions here
[17:35] <OvenWerks> or at least as many
[17:36] <krytarik> Heh.
[17:42] <krytarik> Ftm, we don't have so many in #xubuntu-devel and #lubuntu-devel either.
[17:43] <krytarik> (And they aren't set to be secret.)
[17:44] <OvenWerks> not my decision, Just a guess on my part as to why.
[20:16] <flocculant> sakrecoer_: thanks - seen your MPs - need a little bit of fixing then push again and I'll be happy
[20:17] <flocculant> as I say in comments any action is <dt> and the reaction <dd> :)
[21:22] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: Also, the Scribus file shouldn't be in your Blender branch.
[21:36] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: ok :) cool! so... if the scribus file shouldn't be in the blender branch, should i pull a new clone of ubuntu.manual-tests for each testcase?
[21:37] <sakrecoer_> krytarik: 
[21:38] <sakrecoer_> how do i push the branch while ommitting all the other testcase files?
[21:49] <sakrecoer_> hmm... "bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "~sakrecoer/ubuntu.manual/tests/bug-1183096/": : Cannot create branch at '/~sakrecoer/ubuntu.manual/tests/bug-1183096'
[21:49] <sakrecoer_> ah... osrry.. of course...
[21:52] <sakrecoer_> flocculant: i pushed the fixes, i hope that will make it... cant seem propose a merge, because the old one is still active..
[21:53] <sakrecoer_> (for scirbus) need to sleep, will look into the blender branche tomorrow...
[21:53] <sakrecoer_> thaks for your patience guys! read you soon!
[22:20] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: "should i pull a new clone of ubuntu.manual-tests for each testcase?" - Yes, but in this case, it's better to just remove the Scribus file and commit that.
[22:28] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: And with your latest push to the Scribus branch, you now mixed it up with Blender, too. :P
[22:29] <krytarik> Nvm, I see you reverted that.
[22:38] <krytarik> sakrecoer_: You didn't have to do a new MP either, btw.