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Nairwolfhi guys15:38
NairwolfI've seen the mail of flocculant, if I want to test these packages, I need to do it with the daily distribution, right ? 15:38
knomeNairwolf, hang around and he'll give you more information16:33
Nairwolfokay ;)16:35
NairwolfI've started to install the daily iso of xubuntu xeral16:35
knomexenial you mean16:37
Nairwolfoups16:37
Nairwolfyes, of course ;)16:37
knomepleia2, what's up with the server request?17:16
Unit193She's second guessing it, remembered how much effort it'll cost.17:59
pleia2knome: no news since the update flocculant shared during the meeting on friday18:20
knomeokay, can we pokey pokey people? :P18:22
pleia2yes, but jcastro had to email the partners, and wait for a response and it's only been 2 business days18:22
pleia2so I think I poke some time later next week :)18:22
knomeaha18:22
knomethen i just didn't read the update :P18:22
NairwolfI wasn't here for the last meeting. Where I can read a summary of the meeting ? 18:22
knomeyep18:22
knome!meetings18:22
ubottuTeam meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting - See « /msg ubottu logs » for transcripts.18:22
knomehmph18:22
knomenot there18:23
knome!meetings-#xubuntu-devel is <reply> Xubuntu community meetings are held in #xubuntu-devel - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings for meeting times, agenda and meeting archive18:23
ubottuI'll remember that, knome18:23
knomeNairwolf, ^18:23
Nairwolfoh, thanks18:25
knomenp18:25
Nairwolfbut with #ubuntu-meeting, I've found also logs, so it's also great ;)18:25
pleia2just not our logs18:26
Nairwolfindeed18:27
knome!meetings-#xubuntu-devel is <reply> Xubuntu community meetings are held in #xubuntu-devel - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings for meeting times, agenda and meeting archive - Other team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting, see !logs for more18:27
ubottuBut meetings-#xubuntu-devel already means something else!18:27
knome!no, meetings-#xubuntu-devel is <reply> Xubuntu community meetings are held in #xubuntu-devel - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings for meeting times, agenda and meeting archive - Other team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting, see !logs for more18:27
ubottuI'll remember that knome18:27
knomethere we go18:27
Unit193!meetings-#xubuntu is <alias> meetings-#xubuntu-devel18:28
Unit193! meetings-#xubuntu-offtopic is <alias> meetings-#xubuntu-devel18:28
ubottuI'll remember that, Unit19318:28
ubottuI'll remember that, Unit19318:28
NairwolfI will probably give a help for the walppaper contest18:30
NairwolfIt was for you knome18:30
knomeyes, noticed - thanks18:31
knomelet's see what kind of help we need - depends much on the features of the submission webapp bluesabre is putting up18:31
pleia2ooh, usb sticks18:31
Nairwolfok, I will wait your announce18:31
pleia2https://www.hellotux.com/xubuntu1510_flash_drive18:32
knomepleia2, want to talk about issues related to gabor18:32
knome...'s last mail18:32
Nairwolfpleia2 : Oh, that's so sexy ! I have one of this usb key, but it's so fragile...18:34
NairwolfI've put my usb key with my key ring, it was always with me. But, one day, I've discovered that the frame of my usb was broken. Now, I can't slot my usb on my computer...18:35
knomeusb keys are so last season18:35
Nairwolfare you saying that cloud is more modern ? 18:36
knomei'm using sd cards myself18:36
Nairwolfcan you boot from sd card ?18:37
knomeat least with my laptop18:37
NairwolfI've never tried with my laptop18:38
Nairwolfpleia2 : do you where is going the money of this usb stick ? 18:39
pleia2knome: k, I have things to do today (husband is going on work trip, need to prepare)18:47
pleia2Nairwolf: just like the other xubuntu products, a percentage is set aside for us to redeem as goods for our community members and such18:48
* pleia2 back to pack things18:48
Nairwolfokay18:49
NairwolfI should probably buy one of this usb stick18:49
knomepleia2, it can wait too18:53
Unit193What are all the plans for this, btw?18:54
knome"this"?18:55
Unit193This = Xubuntu server.18:59
knomedocs. tracker. wiki. xubuntu.org18:59
dennis_Good afternoon all! How do I put in a feature request ... or sorts?19:25
dennis_:)19:25
knomedennis_, depends what the feature request is19:27
dennis_knome, I really enjoy the distro, but I would  Like to see the desktop modernized with an updated default theme, wallpaper, and icon pack.19:31
knomedennis_, aha... and what would the modernized theme look like?19:32
Unit193Hot Dog Stand.19:32
dennis_knome, I was thinking something along these lines : http://imgur.com/a/M4YHF19:35
dennis_knome, a slightly updated layout as well19:35
knomehow is that more modern than what is in 15.10 (for example) currently?19:35
knomei can see the panel layout is clearly different, and there is a different icon theme, but i can't see much difference on the theme or wallpaper19:36
knome(and the logo colors used in that way... nope)19:37
dennis_logo was just an example, but I think the Icon theme and panel layout cleans it up a bit19:42
dennis_especially the panel19:42
dennis_I tried to keep the themeing similar to what existed so it was not a drastic change.19:43
knomeyou can send a mail to the xubuntu-devel mailing list with your proposed changes so it can be discussed19:44
knomei don't think the change will be made for 16.04 though (since we want to avoid unexpected regressions), but at least it's there then19:44
knomefor what it's worth, i don't completely agree on all changes there (and there isn't even too many of them)19:44
dennis_cool. That's fine. Just  thought I would bring it up. I think the distro (as well as XFCE) gets a bad wrap for looking old.19:45
knomei don't think the distro looks old.19:45
knomewhile your proposal has some things that would probably appeal the wider audience, there's also much more potential that it starts looking much much older much much faster19:46
Unit193I thought boxy stuff was from the days of CDE or whatnot...19:48
Unit193dennis_: Well, to be fair yeah Xfce by default does look pretty bad, but IMO Xubuntu (and Manjaro, ftm) do a good job.19:49
knomefaenza-style icons or not is a matter of taste19:49
dennis_I would not be offended if it was rejected. I would always keep my personal theming the same. However, I just figured I would bring up. I just had a number of people slam XFCE (and Xubuntu) then show them what can be done to it (not just this theme, but a few others) and they tend to change their mind a bit.19:49
knomedennis_, yes, we do realize people want different things; but xfce (and thus xubuntu) *is* customizable19:49
knomewe've even gone further and created more tools to customize more things than was previously possible19:50
dennis_knome, of course theming/icons is all a matter of taste.19:50
knomedeciding on default is a completely different thing than deciding on your own preferences19:50
knomei would disagree that all design issues are subjective19:50
knomeit may sound harsh, but sometimes it's just best to decide for the user19:51
knomedesign is not only guided by looks, it's guided by usability, accessibility, and more19:51
dennis_I will bring the proposal to the  xubuntu-devel mailing list if it sticks great...if not... thats fine too19:53
dennis_Thanks for your help19:53
knomenp19:54
flocculantNairwolf: evening - if you can run tests with a xenial that's better 20:16
flocculantif not then wily with the dev ppas - depends on if you're using a vm or not20:25
flocculantnvm - I see Nairwolf> I've started to install the daily iso now lol 20:26
Nairwolfhi flocculant, yes, that's what I've done : I'm using the daily iso21:17
knomemany fixes and updates pushed to the website branch, if there are anything else that bothers you with the website, ping me22:54
knomebbl22:59
Nairwolfok knome ;)23:24

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