[15:38] <Nairwolf> hi guys
[15:38] <Nairwolf> I've seen the mail of flocculant, if I want to test these packages, I need to do it with the daily distribution, right ? 
[16:33] <knome> Nairwolf, hang around and he'll give you more information
[16:35] <Nairwolf> okay ;)
[16:35] <Nairwolf> I've started to install the daily iso of xubuntu xeral
[16:37] <knome> xenial you mean
[16:37] <Nairwolf> oups
[16:37] <Nairwolf> yes, of course ;)
[17:16] <knome> pleia2, what's up with the server request?
[17:59] <Unit193> She's second guessing it, remembered how much effort it'll cost.
[18:20] <pleia2> knome: no news since the update flocculant shared during the meeting on friday
[18:22] <knome> okay, can we pokey pokey people? :P
[18:22] <pleia2> yes, but jcastro had to email the partners, and wait for a response and it's only been 2 business days
[18:22] <pleia2> so I think I poke some time later next week :)
[18:22] <knome> aha
[18:22] <knome> then i just didn't read the update :P
[18:22] <Nairwolf> I wasn't here for the last meeting. Where I can read a summary of the meeting ? 
[18:22] <knome> yep
[18:22] <knome> !meetings
[18:22] <knome> hmph
[18:23] <knome> not there
[18:23] <knome> !meetings-#xubuntu-devel is <reply> Xubuntu community meetings are held in #xubuntu-devel - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings for meeting times, agenda and meeting archive
[18:23] <knome> Nairwolf, ^
[18:25] <Nairwolf> oh, thanks
[18:25] <knome> np
[18:25] <Nairwolf> but with #ubuntu-meeting, I've found also logs, so it's also great ;)
[18:26] <pleia2> just not our logs
[18:27] <Nairwolf> indeed
[18:27] <knome> !meetings-#xubuntu-devel is <reply> Xubuntu community meetings are held in #xubuntu-devel - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings for meeting times, agenda and meeting archive - Other team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting, see !logs for more
[18:27] <knome> !no, meetings-#xubuntu-devel is <reply> Xubuntu community meetings are held in #xubuntu-devel - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings for meeting times, agenda and meeting archive - Other team meetings are held in #ubuntu-meeting, see !logs for more
[18:27] <knome> there we go
[18:28] <Unit193> !meetings-#xubuntu is <alias> meetings-#xubuntu-devel
[18:28] <Unit193> ! meetings-#xubuntu-offtopic is <alias> meetings-#xubuntu-devel
[18:30] <Nairwolf> I will probably give a help for the walppaper contest
[18:30] <Nairwolf> It was for you knome
[18:31] <knome> yes, noticed - thanks
[18:31] <knome> let's see what kind of help we need - depends much on the features of the submission webapp bluesabre is putting up
[18:31] <pleia2> ooh, usb sticks
[18:31] <Nairwolf> ok, I will wait your announce
[18:32] <pleia2> https://www.hellotux.com/xubuntu1510_flash_drive
[18:32] <knome> pleia2, want to talk about issues related to gabor
[18:32] <knome> ...'s last mail
[18:34] <Nairwolf> pleia2 : Oh, that's so sexy ! I have one of this usb key, but it's so fragile...
[18:35] <Nairwolf> I've put my usb key with my key ring, it was always with me. But, one day, I've discovered that the frame of my usb was broken. Now, I can't slot my usb on my computer...
[18:35] <knome> usb keys are so last season
[18:36] <Nairwolf> are you saying that cloud is more modern ? 
[18:36] <knome> i'm using sd cards myself
[18:37] <Nairwolf> can you boot from sd card ?
[18:37] <knome> at least with my laptop
[18:38] <Nairwolf> I've never tried with my laptop
[18:39] <Nairwolf> pleia2 : do you where is going the money of this usb stick ? 
[18:47] <pleia2> knome: k, I have things to do today (husband is going on work trip, need to prepare)
[18:48] <pleia2> Nairwolf: just like the other xubuntu products, a percentage is set aside for us to redeem as goods for our community members and such
[18:48]  * pleia2 back to pack things
[18:49] <Nairwolf> okay
[18:49] <Nairwolf> I should probably buy one of this usb stick
[18:53] <knome> pleia2, it can wait too
[18:54] <Unit193> What are all the plans for this, btw?
[18:55] <knome> "this"?
[18:59] <Unit193> This = Xubuntu server.
[18:59] <knome> docs. tracker. wiki. xubuntu.org
[19:25] <dennis_> Good afternoon all! How do I put in a feature request ... or sorts?
[19:25] <dennis_> :)
[19:27] <knome> dennis_, depends what the feature request is
[19:31] <dennis_> knome, I really enjoy the distro, but I would  Like to see the desktop modernized with an updated default theme, wallpaper, and icon pack.
[19:32] <knome> dennis_, aha... and what would the modernized theme look like?
[19:32] <Unit193> Hot Dog Stand.
[19:35] <dennis_> knome, I was thinking something along these lines : http://imgur.com/a/M4YHF
[19:35] <dennis_> knome, a slightly updated layout as well
[19:35] <knome> how is that more modern than what is in 15.10 (for example) currently?
[19:36] <knome> i can see the panel layout is clearly different, and there is a different icon theme, but i can't see much difference on the theme or wallpaper
[19:37] <knome> (and the logo colors used in that way... nope)
[19:42] <dennis_> logo was just an example, but I think the Icon theme and panel layout cleans it up a bit
[19:42] <dennis_> especially the panel
[19:43] <dennis_> I tried to keep the themeing similar to what existed so it was not a drastic change.
[19:44] <knome> you can send a mail to the xubuntu-devel mailing list with your proposed changes so it can be discussed
[19:44] <knome> i don't think the change will be made for 16.04 though (since we want to avoid unexpected regressions), but at least it's there then
[19:44] <knome> for what it's worth, i don't completely agree on all changes there (and there isn't even too many of them)
[19:45] <dennis_> cool. That's fine. Just  thought I would bring it up. I think the distro (as well as XFCE) gets a bad wrap for looking old.
[19:45] <knome> i don't think the distro looks old.
[19:46] <knome> while your proposal has some things that would probably appeal the wider audience, there's also much more potential that it starts looking much much older much much faster
[19:48] <Unit193> I thought boxy stuff was from the days of CDE or whatnot...
[19:49] <Unit193> dennis_: Well, to be fair yeah Xfce by default does look pretty bad, but IMO Xubuntu (and Manjaro, ftm) do a good job.
[19:49] <knome> faenza-style icons or not is a matter of taste
[19:49] <dennis_> I would not be offended if it was rejected. I would always keep my personal theming the same. However, I just figured I would bring up. I just had a number of people slam XFCE (and Xubuntu) then show them what can be done to it (not just this theme, but a few others) and they tend to change their mind a bit.
[19:49] <knome> dennis_, yes, we do realize people want different things; but xfce (and thus xubuntu) *is* customizable
[19:50] <knome> we've even gone further and created more tools to customize more things than was previously possible
[19:50] <dennis_> knome, of course theming/icons is all a matter of taste.
[19:50] <knome> deciding on default is a completely different thing than deciding on your own preferences
[19:50] <knome> i would disagree that all design issues are subjective
[19:51] <knome> it may sound harsh, but sometimes it's just best to decide for the user
[19:51] <knome> design is not only guided by looks, it's guided by usability, accessibility, and more
[19:53] <dennis_> I will bring the proposal to the  xubuntu-devel mailing list if it sticks great...if not... thats fine too
[19:53] <dennis_> Thanks for your help
[19:54] <knome> np
[20:16] <flocculant> Nairwolf: evening - if you can run tests with a xenial that's better 
[20:25] <flocculant> if not then wily with the dev ppas - depends on if you're using a vm or not
[20:26] <flocculant> nvm - I see Nairwolf> I've started to install the daily iso now lol 
[21:17] <Nairwolf> hi flocculant, yes, that's what I've done : I'm using the daily iso
[22:54] <knome> many fixes and updates pushed to the website branch, if there are anything else that bothers you with the website, ping me
[22:59] <knome> bbl
[23:24] <Nairwolf> ok knome ;)