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gbellDo you guys run AV on your ubuntu machines?04:39
blahdeblahgbell: yes, but only for incoming mail04:43
gbellClamAV?05:14
gbell@blahdeblah ClamAV?05:14
meetingologygbell: Error: "blahdeblah" is not a valid command.05:14
blahdeblahgbell: just use names; no @ needed05:15
blahdeblahgbell: And yes, ClamAV :-)05:15
gbellblahdeblah: Last dodgy attachment I ran through ClamAV came up blank.  AV is so technically challenging - they run virtual machines - that I don't know how an OS project could measure up.05:30
blahdeblahTotally true; I believe VirusTotal has an API nowadays; it would be worth checking out whether there are any filters for postfix/spamassassin which allow checking of file hashes against its API (similar to razor/pyzor, but for AV rather than spam)...05:31
gbellfile hashes don't work with modern viruses that mutate.05:32
blahdeblahand yet VirusTotal is still a useful and viable service05:32
gbellDon't you upload the entire binary to VirusTotal?05:33
blahdeblahThey recently added hash checking via API, I believe05:33
gbellInteresting... you can send a hash to 'rescan' a file (I guess that just means getting the results again).  https://www.virustotal.com/en/documentation/public-api/  05:39
gbellMy Win7 Virtualbox instance just got infected today.  First time ever.  I'm hoping they didn't crawl my SMB shares (linux host) and infect other stuff.05:39
bradmgbell: Sophos has a linux agent, at $WORK[-1] we had exim piping things through it first before delivery.  not sure how feasible that is for home though, no idea on pricing.05:41
bradmhttps://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-antivirus-for-linux.aspx05:41
bradmthere you go, free.05:42
blahdeblahbradm: That might even be worth having a play with05:45
bradmblahdeblah: my knowledge on how it runs is several years old, so I couldn't comment on how good it is these days, but its free, what could you lose other than time?05:45
bradmyou could probably even run both clamav and sophos via spamassassin or something, not sure how well the free version plays with others though05:46
blahdeblahgbell: Do you know anything about the infection vector on your Win7 box?  One thing we used to do at $job - 1 was run an AV filter on the local squid proxy; it had surprisingly little impact, and still picked up quite a few drive-by downloads.05:46
blahdeblahbradm: I use amavis, and that definitely supports setups like that05:47
bradmblahdeblah: depends on how well the sophos agent does integration I guess05:47
blahdeblahpretty sure it's supported out of the box with amavis05:48
bradmthats great then, should work nicely.05:49
bradmah, they want name and email details to download it05:50
blahdeblahunderstandable; they need to be able to spam you, right? :-)05:51
bradmtotally.05:58
gbellblahdeblah: yeah, downloaded/installed 7zip, resedit and chromium today.  I think it was one of the first two.06:24
gbelloh, fun, the 7zip I downloaded (from their site) shows up on Virustotal:  https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/543457ec106a47cf74e0f6f84a40acefcc5d0faee909266745008fa9ab3a5681/analysis/  Could be a false-positive... the names of the malware are different than what MS Security said I had (Win32/Hadsruda!bit)06:28
gbellCorrection. resedit, not 7zip.06:32
blahdeblahgbell: Malware names vary quite a lot from vendor to vendor07:27

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