| mck182 | how does one boot to text mode with efi? | 04:48 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:45 |
| Mirv | FYI I've updated qca-qt5 so that it compiles on Qt 5.5 so that okteta autopkgtest doesn't fail | 10:35 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 12:10 |
| BluesKaj | Is plasma 5.5 in the staging ppa yet ? | 12:36 |
| Riddell | sgclark: yofel: I merged pkg-kde-tools | 12:42 |
| * BluesKaj guesses his question is wrong somehow | 12:45 | |
| BluesKaj | http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-plasma-5-5-features-new-default-font-wayland-session-legacy-tray-icons-support-video-497275.shtml | 12:47 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: no and no | 12:55 |
| yofel | Riddell: thanks | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, any timeline for plasma 5.5 ? | 12:57 |
| yofel | not that I know of, sorry | 12:58 |
| BluesKaj | ok thanks | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | I suppose it will be in the 15.10 backports soon tho..I'll be checking on my laptop | 13:02 |
| Yossarianuk | Hi - are their plans for Plasma 5.5 to be in the backports PPA for 15.10 ? 5.5 was released today -> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.5.0.php | 13:59 |
| sgclark | Riddell: merged as in fixed now? | 14:51 |
| Riddell | sgclark: l10n-thing.mk got added in so I hope that fixes any problems | 14:57 |
| sgclark | oh great, yes that will fix much of the breakage. | 14:59 |
| sgclark | thanks | 14:59 |
| sgclark | But to whom it may concern, I must leave in the morning to visit my aunt in the hospise. I am running out of time. | 15:00 |
| sgclark | So unless someone else steps up to package 5.5 it will be awhile. Sorry. | 15:00 |
| BluesKaj | sgclark, ok thanks, understood . | 15:02 |
| sgclark | Riddell: new and exciting failures with pkg-kde-tools | 15:15 |
| Riddell | sgclark: hmm? | 15:16 |
| sgclark | look at ecm buildlog ^ | 15:17 |
| clivejo | will the packages buld themselfs | 15:18 |
| clivejo | that would be an exciting feature | 15:19 |
| sgclark | lol | 15:19 |
| Riddell | "Undefined subroutine &Debian::Debhelper::Buildsystem::kf5::dpkg_architecture_value called at /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kf5.pm line 47." hmm | 15:20 |
| sgclark | well. if I could ever get CI back to working order, then yes | 15:20 |
| sgclark | but it is a freaking mess atm. | 15:20 |
| clivejo | indeed, very storm Desmond | 15:21 |
| clivejo | eakkk all packages are broken today | 15:22 |
| clivejo | there isnt a green light in the whole of senial | 15:23 |
| clivejo | xenial | 15:23 |
| sgclark | yes, kf5 updated. but pkg-kde-tools is still broken in a new and exciting way, which is a blocker for al | 15:23 |
| sgclark | all* | 15:23 |
| clivejo | cursed sitter | 15:24 |
| sgclark | right see above. till pkg-kde-tools is fixed all will remain. | 15:24 |
| sgclark | nothing to do with sitter | 15:24 |
| clivejo | sgclark: I mean him calling xenial senile | 15:24 |
| sgclark | oh lol | 15:24 |
| clivejo | I find myself calling it senial a lot | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | not senile ? | 15:29 |
| clivejo | sitter calls it senile | 15:32 |
| clivejo | but my fingers keep pressing the s key instead of x | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | think it's meant to synonymous with genial, xenial actaully means anyway | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | let me rephrase that : I think it's meant to be synonymous with genial, which xenial actually means anyway ,,,have to correct those senile mistakes of mine :-) | 15:39 |
| sgclark | lol | 15:42 |
| * clivejo cries | 15:45 | |
| clivejo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFTo34mCj0 | 15:45 |
| clivejo | I want, I want | 15:45 |
| clivejo | so pretty | 15:46 |
| sgclark | alright I am off, see you all soon | 17:32 |
| mck182 | how does one boot to non-X mode on kubuntu these days? | 18:40 |
| mck182 | I've tried appending "text" instead of "quite splash" but that still started sddm | 18:40 |
| BluesKaj | quiet spalsh even | 18:43 |
| mck182 | even | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj | :_)\\ | 18:43 |
| mck182 | btw can someone retrigger powerdevil build in kci? the last package is very old and cannot be installed due to conflicts with kscreen | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj | 0 timeout used to work | 18:44 |
| mck182 | so kci unstable now has no power management ^^ | 18:44 |
| mck182 | BluesKaj: that's unfortunately a) not working anymore b) not what I actually want | 18:44 |
| mck182 | (if you run update-grub with timeout=0 it will print a warning that it's not supported anymore) | 18:45 |
| mck182 | but I want to boot to tty, not sddm | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | mck182, if you drop to a vt/tty I guess that stops X | 18:45 |
| mck182 | not exactly | 18:46 |
| mck182 | it just switches you to a different tty | 18:46 |
| mck182 | not killing X | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | yeah | 18:46 |
| mck182 | but I want to boot to tty, not boot to X and then kill X | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | you want to load wayland I suppose | 18:47 |
| mck182 | that as well | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | there must be a line edit in grub that will work | 18:48 |
| mck182 | yes, you're supposed to append "text" to kernel args | 18:49 |
| mck182 | but I dunno if that is still working with 4.2.0/15.10 | 18:49 |
| mck182 | not for me anyway | 18:49 |
| mck182 | perhaps efi has something to do with it | 18:49 |
| mck182 | I dunno | 18:49 |
| yofel | I would rather say systemd is involved here, but I don't know what the solution is either | 18:51 |
| BluesKaj | what avou the line #GRUB_TERMINAL=console, in /etc/default/grub | 18:51 |
| BluesKaj | about | 18:51 |
| mck182 | BluesKaj: that's for grub-pc only I've read | 18:52 |
| mck182 | while I have grub-efi | 18:52 |
| BluesKaj | bummer | 18:52 |
| mck182 | yofel: or that, yeah | 18:52 |
| BluesKaj | damn uefi | 18:53 |
| mck182 | yofel: btw could please retrigger powerdevil build in kci? the last one is very outdated and conflicts with plasma-workspace | 18:53 |
| BluesKaj | is that why the new plasma-workspace is being held back ? | 18:54 |
| BluesKaj | either the ic ppa or the staging ppa have it , forgot which , but I have them commented now | 18:57 |
| mck182 | does anyone understand systemd to help investigate a thing? | 19:47 |
| lordievader | mck182: What is the problem? | 19:50 |
| mck182 | lordievader: when I stop sddm, my display is powered off, I believe this is systemd doing, in the syslog I see "Reached target Shutdown" | 19:51 |
| mck182 | so I'm somewhat assuming that systemd is powering down the screen for machine power off | 19:51 |
| mck182 | but I'd like it not to | 19:51 |
| lordievader | Hehe, that is odd. Does it automatically reboot if the sddm service is disabled? | 19:51 |
| mck182 | no | 19:52 |
| mck182 | I still have access to tty1 | 19:52 |
| mck182 | but the screen is powered off | 19:52 |
| mck182 | so I can blindly type "sudo reboot" and it will reboot | 19:52 |
| lordievader | Hmm, well it could be that systemd thinks the lid is closed. (Is this a laptop by the way?) | 19:53 |
| mck182 | yeah, laptop | 19:53 |
| mck182 | lordievader: here's the full log https://paste.kde.org/pjp10gyy2 | 19:54 |
| lordievader | mck182: Edit '/etc/systemd/logind.conf' and let it say, among things, 'HandleLidSwitch=ignore'. Then reboot (or reload logind). | 19:54 |
| mck182 | lordievader: how do I reload logind? | 19:55 |
| lordievader | mck182: Not really sure if that will immeadeate effect, but: sudo systemctl reload systemd-logind | 19:56 |
| mck182 | lordievader: "Failed to reload systemd-logind.service: Job type reload is not applicable for unit systemd-logind.service." | 19:56 |
| mck182 | so I guess I'll just reboot | 19:56 |
| lordievader | Hmm, you can try restarting it but that might fail worse ;) | 19:57 |
| mck182 | np, reboots are quick ^^ | 19:57 |
| mck182 | lisandro: well that didn't help | 20:01 |
| lordievader | Hmm... | 20:02 |
| lordievader | What does the log of systemd-logind say? | 20:03 |
| mck182 | hmm....how can I display previous boot with journalctl? | 20:06 |
| mck182 | --list-boots shows only the current boot | 20:06 |
| lordievader | Then it is likely set to volatile. Set the journal to persistent mode to save journals across boots. | 20:08 |
| mck182 | one thing I hope you realized by now is that I have zarro knowledge about thingsd :) | 20:08 |
| mck182 | so if you tell me set it to persistent mode, I have no idea how | 20:09 |
| lordievader | By the by, maybe we should move to #kubuntu, this is not really a support room ;) | 20:09 |
| mck182 | oh right | 20:10 |
| soee | yofel: any plans to add Plasma 5.5 to Kubuntu any soon ? | 20:37 |
| yofel | don't hold your breath. Not with scarlett on a trip and me working overtime every day. | 20:39 |
| clivejo | how come you are on overtime yofel? | 20:41 |
| yofel | My todo list at work until christmas is too long? And it's winter and people are sick and stuff | 20:42 |
| yofel | well, life | 20:42 |
| yofel | But as a result I have like next to no motivation to do something productive once I get home -.- | 20:43 |
| clivejo | bad weather there too? | 20:49 |
| clivejo | yofel: regarding ecm I have built it on my own xenial system, but I added a build dep on python-sphinx | 20:51 |
| yofel | Not really, we had 3 days of all-day mist though which finally cleared up today | 20:52 |
| yofel | sounds like documentation stuff. Dunno if we ship that for ecm | 20:53 |
| clivejo | ah | 20:54 |
| clivejo | I wonder what I have on my machine that allows it to build, but is not on LP | 21:05 |
| yofel | well, the CI failure is caused by the busted pkg-kde-tools | 21:08 |
| clivejo | where does it get built? | 21:10 |
| yofel | ecm or pkt? | 21:10 |
| clivejo | pkt | 21:10 |
| yofel | archive | 21:10 |
| clivejo | cant see it in KCI | 21:11 |
| yofel | it's not in the CI, it's just a tooling package | 21:11 |
| clivejo | so my tooling package is different to the one KCI is using? | 21:12 |
| yofel | dunno, what version do you have? | 21:12 |
| clivejo | Installed: 0.15.19ubuntu1 | 21:13 |
| yofel | that one works, 0.15.20~ubuntu1 is busted | 21:14 |
| clivejo | where is 0.15.20 coming from? | 21:14 |
| yofel | archive | 21:14 |
| clivejo | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial/main amd64 Packages | 21:15 |
| yofel | 0.15.20~ubuntu1 0 | 21:15 |
| yofel | 500 http://localhost:3142/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial/main amd64 Packages | 21:15 |
| clivejo | wonder why my install isnt using it | 21:15 |
| yofel | you probably didn't update | 21:16 |
| yofel | ah well, lets see if I can get this fixed | 21:16 |
| clivejo | who looks after the tooling then? | 21:17 |
| yofel | us | 21:17 |
| valorie | we need more people! | 21:22 |
| yofel | definitely | 21:22 |
| valorie | it's a bit worrying that the team is too small to have time to mentor new folks | 21:23 |
| * yofel wonders what the purpose of the failing code is... | 21:23 | |
| valorie | although I will say that GCi while fun, hasn't gotten us long-term contributors | 21:23 |
| clivejo | yofel: how do you find out? | 21:27 |
| clivejo | ask the KDE folks? | 21:27 |
| yofel | so far I'm wondering that myself :P | 21:27 |
| yofel | nah, this shouldn't be so hard that reading the actual code won't help | 21:28 |
| yofel | and from what I can see, the current default behavior matches the indended one, so that diff is probably obsolete | 21:28 |
| yofel | which would explain why debian doesn't need it | 21:28 |
| clivejo | yofel: why do we have so much other stuff as well as the debian folder ? | 21:30 |
| clivejo | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/pkg-kde-tools.git/tree/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive | 21:30 |
| yofel | that's a debian native package, i.e. "We" are upstream here | 21:31 |
| yofel | which is why the code and the packaging are together | 21:31 |
| yofel | the kubuntu specific stuff is in the kubuntu/ folder. + some patched files | 21:32 |
| clivejo | so very confusing! | 21:32 |
| yofel | how so? It's packaging tooling, so it should be pretty obvious that we wrote that ^^ | 21:33 |
| yofel | hm... | 21:34 |
| yofel | I wonder if I can run apt from inside the tooling... would drop the dep diff for lintian... | 21:34 |
| yofel | sgclark, Riddell: pkg-kde-tools with the broken line dropped uploaded to the archive, should fix most things. | 21:49 |
| yofel | there is still one call to dpkg_architecture_value in dh_sameversiondep, but that's mostly unused these days | 21:50 |
| clivejo | yofel: what was broken? | 21:50 |
| yofel | "Undefined subroutine &Debian::Debhelper::Buildsystem::kf5::dpkg_architecture_value called at /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kf5.pm line 47." | 21:50 |
| Riddell | yofel: you're a genius, did you sync up git? | 22:43 |
| yofel | it's in git | 22:43 |
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