[04:48] <mck182> how does one boot to text mode with efi?
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:35] <Mirv> FYI I've updated qca-qt5 so that it compiles on Qt 5.5 so that okteta autopkgtest doesn't fail
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Is plasma 5.5 in the staging ppa yet ?
[12:42] <Riddell> sgclark: yofel: I merged pkg-kde-tools
[12:45]  * BluesKaj guesses his question is wrong somehow
[12:47] <BluesKaj> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-plasma-5-5-features-new-default-font-wayland-session-legacy-tray-icons-support-video-497275.shtml
[12:55] <yofel> BluesKaj: no and no
[12:55] <yofel> Riddell: thanks
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yofel, any timeline for plasma 5.5 ?
[12:58] <yofel> not that I know of, sorry
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ok thanks
[13:02] <BluesKaj> I suppose it will be in the 15.10 backports soon tho..I'll be checking on my laptop
[13:59] <Yossarianuk> Hi - are their plans for Plasma 5.5 to be in the backports PPA for 15.10 ?  5.5 was released today -> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.5.0.php
[14:51] <sgclark> Riddell: merged as in fixed now?
[14:57] <Riddell> sgclark: l10n-thing.mk got added in so I hope that fixes any problems
[14:59] <sgclark> oh great, yes that will fix much of the breakage.
[14:59] <sgclark> thanks
[15:00] <sgclark> But to whom it may concern, I must leave in the morning to visit my aunt in the hospise. I am running out of time.
[15:00] <sgclark> So unless someone else steps up to package 5.5 it will be awhile. Sorry.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> sgclark, ok thanks, understood .
[15:15] <sgclark> Riddell: new and exciting failures with pkg-kde-tools
[15:16] <Riddell> sgclark: hmm?
[15:17] <sgclark> look at ecm buildlog ^
[15:18] <clivejo> will the packages buld themselfs
[15:19] <clivejo> that would be an exciting feature
[15:19] <sgclark> lol
[15:20] <Riddell> "Undefined subroutine &Debian::Debhelper::Buildsystem::kf5::dpkg_architecture_value called at /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kf5.pm line 47."  hmm
[15:20] <sgclark> well. if I could ever get CI back to working order, then yes
[15:20] <sgclark> but it is a freaking mess atm.
[15:21] <clivejo> indeed, very storm Desmond
[15:22] <clivejo> eakkk all packages are broken today
[15:23] <clivejo> there isnt a green light in the whole of senial
[15:23] <clivejo> xenial
[15:23] <sgclark> yes, kf5 updated. but pkg-kde-tools is still broken in a new and exciting way, which is a blocker for al
[15:23] <sgclark> all*
[15:24] <clivejo> cursed sitter
[15:24] <sgclark> right see above. till pkg-kde-tools is fixed all will remain.
[15:24] <sgclark> nothing to do with sitter
[15:24] <clivejo> sgclark: I mean him calling xenial senile
[15:24] <sgclark> oh lol
[15:25] <clivejo> I find myself calling it senial a lot
[15:29] <BluesKaj> not senile ?
[15:32] <clivejo> sitter calls it senile
[15:32] <clivejo> but my fingers keep pressing the s key instead of x
[15:36] <BluesKaj> think it's meant to synonymous with genial, xenial actaully means anyway 
[15:39] <BluesKaj> let me rephrase that : I think it's meant to be synonymous with genial, which xenial actually means anyway ,,,have to correct those senile mistakes of mine :-)
[15:42] <sgclark> lol
[15:45]  * clivejo cries
[15:45] <clivejo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFTo34mCj0
[15:45] <clivejo> I want, I want
[15:46] <clivejo> so pretty
[17:32] <sgclark> alright I am off, see you all soon
[18:40] <mck182> how does one boot to non-X mode on kubuntu these days?
[18:40] <mck182> I've tried appending "text" instead of "quite splash" but that still started sddm
[18:43] <BluesKaj> quiet spalsh even
[18:43] <mck182> even
[18:43] <BluesKaj> :_)\\
[18:43] <mck182> btw can someone retrigger powerdevil build in kci? the last package is very old and cannot be installed due to conflicts with kscreen
[18:44] <BluesKaj> 0 timeout used to work
[18:44] <mck182> so kci unstable now has no power management ^^
[18:44] <mck182> BluesKaj: that's unfortunately a) not working anymore b) not what I actually want
[18:45] <mck182> (if you run update-grub with timeout=0 it will print a warning that it's not supported anymore)
[18:45] <mck182> but I want to boot to tty, not sddm
[18:45] <BluesKaj> mck182, if you drop to a vt/tty I guess that stops X
[18:46] <mck182> not exactly
[18:46] <mck182> it just switches you to a different tty
[18:46] <mck182> not killing X
[18:46] <BluesKaj> yeah
[18:46] <mck182> but I want to boot to tty, not boot to X and then kill X
[18:47] <BluesKaj> you want to load wayland I suppose
[18:47] <mck182> that as well
[18:48] <BluesKaj> there must be a line edit in grub that will work
[18:49] <mck182> yes, you're supposed to append "text" to kernel args
[18:49] <mck182> but I dunno if that is still working with 4.2.0/15.10
[18:49] <mck182> not for me anyway
[18:49] <mck182> perhaps efi has something to do with it
[18:49] <mck182> I dunno
[18:51] <yofel> I would rather say systemd is involved here, but I don't know what the solution is either
[18:51] <BluesKaj> what avou the line #GRUB_TERMINAL=console,  in /etc/default/grub
[18:51] <BluesKaj> about
[18:52] <mck182> BluesKaj: that's for grub-pc only I've read
[18:52] <mck182> while I have grub-efi
[18:52] <BluesKaj> bummer
[18:52] <mck182> yofel: or that, yeah
[18:53] <BluesKaj> damn uefi
[18:53] <mck182> yofel: btw could please retrigger powerdevil build in kci? the last one is very outdated and conflicts with plasma-workspace
[18:54] <BluesKaj> is that why the new plasma-workspace is being held back ?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> either the ic ppa or the staging ppa have it , forgot which , but I have them commented now
[19:47] <mck182> does anyone understand systemd to help investigate a thing?
[19:50] <lordievader> mck182: What is the problem?
[19:51] <mck182> lordievader: when I stop sddm, my display is powered off, I believe this is systemd doing, in the syslog I see "Reached target Shutdown"
[19:51] <mck182> so I'm somewhat assuming that systemd is powering down the screen for machine power off
[19:51] <mck182> but I'd like it not to
[19:51] <lordievader> Hehe, that is odd. Does it automatically reboot if the sddm service is disabled?
[19:52] <mck182> no
[19:52] <mck182> I still have access to tty1
[19:52] <mck182> but the screen is powered off
[19:52] <mck182> so I can blindly type "sudo reboot" and it will reboot
[19:53] <lordievader> Hmm, well it could be that systemd thinks the lid is closed. (Is this a laptop by the way?)
[19:53] <mck182> yeah, laptop
[19:54] <mck182> lordievader: here's the full log https://paste.kde.org/pjp10gyy2
[19:54] <lordievader> mck182: Edit '/etc/systemd/logind.conf' and let it say, among things, 'HandleLidSwitch=ignore'. Then reboot (or reload logind).
[19:55] <mck182> lordievader: how do I reload logind?
[19:56] <lordievader> mck182: Not really sure if that will immeadeate effect, but: sudo systemctl reload systemd-logind
[19:56] <mck182> lordievader: "Failed to reload systemd-logind.service: Job type reload is not applicable for unit systemd-logind.service."
[19:56] <mck182> so I guess I'll just reboot
[19:57] <lordievader> Hmm, you can try restarting it but that might fail worse ;)
[19:57] <mck182> np, reboots are quick ^^
[20:01] <mck182> lisandro: well that didn't help
[20:02] <lordievader> Hmm...
[20:03] <lordievader> What does the log of systemd-logind say?
[20:06] <mck182> hmm....how can I display previous boot with journalctl?
[20:06] <mck182> --list-boots shows only the current boot
[20:08] <lordievader> Then it is likely set to volatile. Set the journal to persistent mode to save journals across boots.
[20:08] <mck182> one thing I hope you realized by now is that I have zarro knowledge about thingsd :)
[20:09] <mck182> so if you tell me set it to persistent mode, I have no idea how
[20:09] <lordievader> By the by, maybe we should move to #kubuntu, this is not really a support room ;)
[20:10] <mck182> oh right
[20:37] <soee> yofel: any plans to add Plasma 5.5 to Kubuntu any soon ?
[20:39] <yofel> don't hold your breath. Not with scarlett on a trip and me working overtime every day.
[20:41] <clivejo> how come you are on overtime yofel?
[20:42] <yofel> My todo list at work until christmas is too long? And it's winter and people are sick and stuff
[20:42] <yofel> well, life
[20:43] <yofel> But as a result I have like next to no motivation to do something productive once I get home -.-
[20:49] <clivejo> bad weather there too?
[20:51] <clivejo> yofel: regarding ecm I have built it on my own xenial system, but I added a build dep on python-sphinx
[20:52] <yofel> Not really, we had 3 days of all-day mist though which finally cleared up today
[20:53] <yofel> sounds like documentation stuff. Dunno if we ship that for ecm
[20:54] <clivejo> ah
[21:05] <clivejo> I wonder what I have on my machine that allows it to build, but is not on LP
[21:08] <yofel> well, the CI failure is caused by the busted pkg-kde-tools
[21:10] <clivejo> where does it get built?
[21:10] <yofel> ecm or pkt?
[21:10] <clivejo> pkt
[21:10] <yofel> archive
[21:11] <clivejo> cant see it in KCI
[21:11] <yofel> it's not in the CI, it's just a tooling package
[21:12] <clivejo> so my tooling package is different to the one KCI is using?
[21:12] <yofel> dunno, what version do you have?
[21:13] <clivejo> Installed: 0.15.19ubuntu1
[21:14] <yofel> that one works, 0.15.20~ubuntu1 is busted
[21:14] <clivejo> where is 0.15.20 coming from?
[21:14] <yofel> archive
[21:15] <clivejo> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial/main amd64 Packages
[21:15] <yofel>      0.15.20~ubuntu1 0
[21:15] <yofel>         500 http://localhost:3142/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial/main amd64 Packages
[21:15] <clivejo> wonder why my install isnt using it
[21:16] <yofel> you probably didn't update
[21:16] <yofel> ah well, lets see if I can get this fixed
[21:17] <clivejo> who looks after the tooling then?
[21:17] <yofel> us
[21:22] <valorie> we need more people!
[21:22] <yofel> definitely
[21:23] <valorie> it's a bit worrying that the team is too small to have time to mentor new folks
[21:23]  * yofel wonders what the purpose of the failing code is...
[21:23] <valorie> although I will say that GCi while fun, hasn't gotten us long-term contributors
[21:27] <clivejo> yofel: how do you find out?
[21:27] <clivejo> ask the KDE folks?
[21:27] <yofel> so far I'm wondering that myself :P
[21:28] <yofel> nah, this shouldn't be so hard that reading the actual code won't help
[21:28] <yofel> and from what I can see, the current default behavior matches the indended one, so that diff is probably obsolete
[21:28] <yofel> which would explain why debian doesn't need it
[21:30] <clivejo> yofel: why do we have so much other stuff as well as the debian folder ?
[21:30] <clivejo> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/pkg-kde-tools.git/tree/?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive
[21:31] <yofel> that's a debian native package, i.e. "We" are upstream here
[21:31] <yofel> which is why the code and the packaging are together
[21:32] <yofel> the kubuntu specific stuff is in the kubuntu/ folder. + some patched files
[21:32] <clivejo> so very confusing!
[21:33] <yofel> how so? It's packaging tooling, so it should be pretty obvious that we wrote that ^^
[21:34] <yofel> hm...
[21:34] <yofel> I wonder if I can run apt from inside the tooling... would drop the dep diff for lintian...
[21:49] <yofel> sgclark, Riddell: pkg-kde-tools with the broken line dropped uploaded to the archive, should fix most things.
[21:50] <yofel> there is still one call to dpkg_architecture_value in dh_sameversiondep, but that's mostly unused these days
[21:50] <clivejo> yofel: what was broken?
[21:50] <yofel> "Undefined subroutine &Debian::Debhelper::Buildsystem::kf5::dpkg_architecture_value called at /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kf5.pm line 47."
[22:43] <Riddell> yofel: you're a genius, did you sync up git?
[22:43] <yofel> it's in git