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| deenlee | what happened to the core apps ppa? latest builds are 4 weeks old!! https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily | 05:52 |
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| deenlee | or more | 05:53 |
| deenlee | looks dead X-( | 05:53 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-8-5-to-arrive-next-week-with-important-fixes-for-ubuntu-phones-497273.shtml | 06:37 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:41 |
| diwic | tvoss, hi, did you ever get your translation change that you requested last week? If not I can probably fix it today. | 09:09 |
| tvoss | diwic, nope, did not get to that | 09:10 |
| tvoss | diwic, change would be appreicated :) | 09:10 |
| diwic | tvoss, silo 47, right? | 09:11 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Pretend To Be A Time Traveler Day! 😃 | 10:13 |
| diwic | JamesTait, sorry, Tuesday in what year? | 10:15 |
| JamesTait | diwic, 2319 of course! | 10:15 |
| diwic | JamesTait, oh, that explains why my facebook page shows no cat pictures today...humans must have evolved! | 10:16 |
| JamesTait | Tuesday, the 42nd rotation of the 17th cycle, of the year 2319 of the new age of the post-enlightenment. | 10:17 |
| JamesTait | Although I can't help feeling I've been here before.... | 10:18 |
| JamesTait | Humans were extincted long ago. Extincted themselves, in fact. | 10:19 |
| diwic | post enlightenment? Back in my days, enlightenment was a display manager, not an http server | 10:20 |
| mcphail | JamesTait: Does bluetooth work on the Ubuntu Phone yet, in 2319? ;) | 10:22 |
| diwic | Bluetooth is no more. There is no need for colors, nor for teeth. We use more efficient methods of visualization and digesting. | 10:23 |
| JamesTait | mcphail, only for input, as far as I've been able to tell. Occasionally I've heard reports of it also working with in-vehicle voice kits, but I'm not sure if I believe them. | 10:24 |
| * mcphail is losing hope it will connect to his flying car | 10:25 | |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I'll take a video of it working with voice control in my car :P | 10:26 |
| NwS | Heya guys, are there any news of a new Ubuntu phone yet? | 11:06 |
| davmor2 | NwS: not yet no why? | 11:16 |
| NwS | davmor2, I'm waiting for a new model so I can replace my current smartphone :P | 11:16 |
| NwS | Since you know the Meizu is sold out plus from what people told me it can't support convergence | 11:18 |
| lotuspsychje | NwS: you can buy a nexus4 or a bq 4.5? | 11:22 |
| NwS | I prefer to wait for an official Ubuntu phone instead of a gphone. And Bq is kinda ugly :/ | 11:23 |
| lotuspsychje | i have a bq, nothing wrong with it | 11:23 |
| NwS | "kinda ugly" personal opinion :P | 11:23 |
| lotuspsychje | NwS: maybe someone sells his meizu second hand in your region? | 11:35 |
| svij | NwS: a new convergence phone is supposed to launch "early next year" from bq | 11:35 |
| lotuspsychje | NwS: their also working on an LG with ubuntu touch atm | 11:36 |
| lotuspsychje | svij: got an url on that mate? | 11:36 |
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| svij | lotuspsychje: Jane Silber said that somewhere in the last Q&A during UOS | 11:37 |
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| lotuspsychje | svij: thanks! | 11:37 |
| sturmflut | Also there will be a new Meizu phone, as Jane also said during UOS | 11:41 |
| lotuspsychje | sturmflut: thanks for info | 11:46 |
| NwS | ty for the info lotuspsychje & svij | 11:46 |
| lotuspsychje | sturmflut: you still working on the one+one aswell? | 11:46 |
| lotuspsychje | it all sounds very promising | 11:46 |
| svij | lotuspsychje: it was mariogrip who worked on one+one i think | 11:49 |
| lotuspsychje | oh right i confused tnx | 11:49 |
| lotuspsychje | sturmflut showed up on many articles too, thats why :p | 11:50 |
| sturmflut | lotuspsychje: I tried to build Ubuntu for the Aquaris M5, but decided to not devote any more time to it because porting Ubunt/Android is a time-consuming process and my time is most likely better spent on solving bugs that affect all devices | 11:50 |
| lotuspsychje | sturmflut: understandable :p | 11:50 |
| sturmflut | Also I lost all faith in humanity when I looked at the Android source code and build system | 11:52 |
| lotuspsychje | when i hear android my hair comes up :p | 11:52 |
| sturmflut | A guy posted an excellent comment on this to the ML today | 11:54 |
| sturmflut | "I guess the lesson is people who enjoy phones and sausages shouldn't watch either of them being made." | 11:54 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 11:55 |
| lotuspsychje | you never know whats inside | 11:55 |
| sturmflut | Old german wordplay about sausages: "If people find out what's going in, you're going in where you'll never get out" | 11:57 |
| svij | heh | 11:57 |
| lotuspsychje | well i rather have my saucage with an ubuntu flavor | 12:03 |
| Tod | every body know where Im can found ubuntu touch for HTC one m7 | 12:05 |
| Tod | ?? | 12:05 |
| lotuspsychje | !devices | Tod | 12:05 |
| ubot5 | Tod: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 12:05 |
| Tod | thanks | 12:06 |
| Tod | !devices | 12:07 |
| ubot5 | You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 12:07 |
| Tod | !htc | 12:07 |
| Tod | !htc one m 7 | 12:07 |
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| peat-psuwit | Hello. Does anyone knows what happens with source tree as it can't be compiled. | 14:37 |
| peat-psuwit | ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/media_recorder_client.cpp:265:22: error: 'struct android::MediaRecorderBase' has no member named 'pause' | 14:37 |
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| kenvandine | Mirv, your recent patch to qtbase5 seems to be causing system-settings to crash on startup, but seems to be only on the desktop with vivid + stable overlay | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | Mirv, the crash is in qnmbearer | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | Mirv, stacktrace http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13825552/ | 15:14 |
| Mirv | kenvandine: not my patch though | 15:33 |
| Mirv | kenvandine: if you think there's something to fix ping Tony, but the general idea is to have that as a quick hotfix and work on connectivity-api bearer (I did draft packaging at lp:~timo-jyrinki/+junk/connectivity-api-bearer ) to replace the NM bearer even for OTA-9 | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | awe_, ^^ | 15:37 |
| kenvandine | awe_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13825552/ | 15:37 |
| awe_ | kenvandine, hmmm... is that critical enough to block the OTA? | 15:43 |
| awe_ | can we get the OTA out, and then shoot for a fix asap? | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | awe_, well it makes hacking on settings incredibly painful :/ | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | awe_, any ideas why it causes the crash on desktop only? | 15:49 |
| awe_ | kenvandine, cause desktop users typically used Wired/Ethernet | 15:52 |
| awe_ | and phones users don't | 15:53 |
| awe_ | looks like the crash is the QNetworkManagerInterfaceDeviceWired class | 15:53 |
| awe_ | kenvandine, can you file a bug and assign to me? | 15:54 |
| awe_ | we can work on getting a fix after ota8.5 leaves the building | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | will do | 15:55 |
| awe_ | sorry for the hacking pain | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | 8.5? | 15:55 |
| awe_ | um, yes | 15:55 |
| awe_ | have you read the landing emails lately? | 15:55 |
| awe_ | ;)- | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | i guess not :) | 15:55 |
| awe_ | so basically, this fix gets rid of a ton of unecessary NM DBus logic that impacts any Qt app which uses QNetworkAccessManager | 15:56 |
| awe_ | we're planning on moving to an even newer plugin for OTA9 | 15:56 |
| awe_ | which will replace the NM plugin with our own as Mirv mentioned above | 15:57 |
| kenvandine | awe_, bug 1523975 | 16:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1523975 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "system-settings crashes on startup with 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu11~vivid1 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523975 | 16:00 |
| awe_ | kenvandine, I would say "High" vs. "Critical". I will see if I can get something done before the break, but can't drop everything for this | 16:05 |
| kenvandine | awe_, ok | 16:05 |
| awe_ | how much other stuff gets pulled in when you install qtbase? | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | not sure | 16:07 |
| awe_ | well, how do you install? | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | anyone with uitk has it | 16:07 |
| awe_ | uitk? | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | it's libqt5network5 | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | ubuntu-ui-toolkit | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | if you install ubuntu-system-settings from the overlay ppa you'll see the crash | 16:08 |
| awe_ | right, so you add the overlay PPA as a PPA to your desktop | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:08 |
| awe_ | then update ubuntu-system-settings? | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | have to for phone development | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | and libqt5network5 | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | just apt-get upgrade :) | 16:09 |
| awe_ | I do all my devel on the phone | 16:09 |
| awe_ | no modem on my desktop | 16:09 |
| awe_ | different wifi drivers, ... | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:09 |
| awe_ | I'll add a note to the original bug, maybe lorn might come up with a quicker fix | 16:10 |
| bs_ | Hi guys, quick question, I want to test Touch on my old Nexus 4. However, I use Mint not Ubuntu, can I get away with using the same process as if I were using Ubuntu or am I best using Ubuntu to do it? | 16:20 |
| dobey | bs_: install phablet-tools, or you may need to add the PPA mentioned in the docs to get the latest version, and then use ubuntu-device-flash just the same as in in the instructions | 16:23 |
| bs_ | ok, thanks. Thought I'd be ok on Mint, but thought it best to check! :) | 16:25 |
| peat-psuwit | Hello. Does anyone knows what happens with Android source tree as it can't be compiled. | 16:35 |
| peat-psuwit | ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/media_recorder_client.cpp:265:22: error: 'struct android::MediaRecorderBase' has no member named 'pause' | 16:35 |
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| * lpotter grumbles about bearers | 18:31 | |
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| nuboro | how can i become ubuntu touch on my mobile | 19:20 |
| k1l | nuboro: which device? | 19:23 |
| nuboro | do you mean the phone ? | 19:24 |
| nuboro | huawei | 19:24 |
| nuboro | kll ^^ | 19:24 |
| k1l | yes | 19:24 |
| k1l | see the devices list if someone did a port already. if not you need to port it yourself, but this is not a beginners task | 19:25 |
| k1l | https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ | 19:25 |
| nuboro | Huawei Ascend Y550 | 19:25 |
| k1l | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 19:25 |
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| nuboro | https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/#unlock-device where must you do that | 19:52 |
| nuboro | if you havent a terminal on the phone | 19:52 |
| nuboro | and how can you get ubuntu touch i dont understand it i have a huawei ascend y 550 | 19:55 |
| nuboro | please help me | 19:55 |
| k1l | nuboro: no | 19:57 |
| nuboro | i didnt understood | 19:57 |
| k1l | nuboro: that doesnt work for your phone. its not officialy supported. | 19:57 |
| nuboro | ah ok ;( | 19:58 |
| k1l | you need to port ubuntu-touch to your phone first. but that is not a beginners task. | 19:58 |
| nuboro | yes you already said that | 19:58 |
| nuboro | how ? k1l | 20:00 |
| k1l | <k1l> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ | 20:00 |
| nuboro | that isn't a beginner task ;( | 20:02 |
| k1l | that is what i tell you the whole time | 20:02 |
| k1l | porting a new OS to a device is not a beginners task at all. | 20:02 |
| nuboro | when sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools i want to getthe uptde some idexes fail | 20:04 |
| nuboro | does someone knows why | 20:05 |
| thepeter | Hi :) | 20:17 |
| dobey | hi | 20:17 |
| thepeter | got kind of "design" question ... I know that on PC ubuntu there has been talk about it and what is let's say outcome but friend which is left-handed actually asked me (he's already owning ubuntu phone) if is possible to show the "menu" from right side of the screen :D | 20:20 |
| lotuspsychje | thepeter: default bar goes left mate | 20:21 |
| thepeter | I've been googling it but I can't find out anything on it :D | 20:21 |
| dobey | no, there is currently no option to swap the left/right swiping afaik | 20:21 |
| thepeter | uhm okay :D I've expected it :P | 20:22 |
| thepeter | dobey: but is it ... you know "the dead end"? or do you think that it might just happend in time? | 20:23 |
| thepeter | personaly I don't have this issue but just to communitace him it the right way | 20:24 |
| thepeter | btw to anybody responsible for the last OTA - great thanks for that since battery life is almost doubled on BQ Aquaris 5 :) I really appreciate it | 20:27 |
| dobey | i can't say if it will ever be implemented or not. i don't know | 20:29 |
| dobey | i can say "file a bug about it" though :) | 20:29 |
| lotuspsychje | thepeter: we have other users with existing bugs on bettery life | 20:31 |
| thepeter | hehe I've been actually thinking about it (regarding "lefthanded" support wish) | 20:32 |
| thepeter | lotuspsychje: on bq 5 I can confirm that it is much better after the last OTA, and I would buy a drink to the one who resolved it if it would be possible | 20:34 |
| lotuspsychje | i have 4.5 here and no issues | 20:35 |
| lotuspsychje | mcphail: around? | 20:35 |
| thepeter | lotuspsychje: me neither what I am saying that battery now holds almost twice longer than before - I am not complaining I am expressing my kindest thanks for this improvement :) | 20:36 |
| thepeter | dobey: so bug or question? | 20:42 |
| dobey | thepeter: bug | 20:46 |
| thepeter | dobey: ok | 20:48 |
| lotuspsychje | http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-phones-spotted-in-a-store-in-germany-at-just-1-with-contract-497189.shtml | 20:48 |
| thepeter | lotuspsychje: nice | 20:51 |
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| * thepeter thinking about raising bug that bug reporting for ubuntu-touch is kind of messy and intricate (what is the right form to use?) | 20:54 | |
| thepeter | I guess I'll leave it for now ... will probably google-up some manualhow to put bug on launchpad to the right place | 21:04 |
| thepeter | so long! (and thanks for all the fish) | 21:05 |
| k1l | http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/08/mozilla-will-stop-developing-and-selling-firefox-os-smartphones/ firefox OS gave up | 21:32 |
| mcphail | lotuspsychje: good evening | 21:51 |
| lotuspsychje | mcphail: hi mate, nvm previous the user had battery improvements on ota8 :p | 21:52 |
| mcphail | lotuspsychje: lucky person! I had another bad day on rc-proposed at the weekend. I'm thinking it must be something to do with dekko, but I have all the dekko-tweakgeek stuff turned off now | 21:54 |
| sturmflut | slangasek: I demand a zSeries phone! How else am I supposed to do proper banking? | 22:54 |
| slangasek | sturmflut: you can have a zSeries phone, but it's going to be rotary dial | 23:07 |
| kenvandine | slangasek, rofl | 23:17 |
| slangasek | ;) | 23:18 |
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