=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:52] what happened to the core apps ppa? latest builds are 4 weeks old!! https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/daily [05:53] or more [05:53] looks dead X-( [06:37] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-8-5-to-arrive-next-week-with-important-fixes-for-ubuntu-phones-497273.shtml === tvoss_ is now known as tvoss [07:41] good morning [09:09] tvoss, hi, did you ever get your translation change that you requested last week? If not I can probably fix it today. [09:10] diwic, nope, did not get to that [09:10] diwic, change would be appreicated :) [09:11] tvoss, silo 47, right? [10:13] Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Pretend To Be A Time Traveler Day! 😃 [10:15] JamesTait, sorry, Tuesday in what year? [10:15] diwic, 2319 of course! [10:16] JamesTait, oh, that explains why my facebook page shows no cat pictures today...humans must have evolved! [10:17] Tuesday, the 42nd rotation of the 17th cycle, of the year 2319 of the new age of the post-enlightenment. [10:18] Although I can't help feeling I've been here before.... [10:19] Humans were extincted long ago. Extincted themselves, in fact. [10:20] post enlightenment? Back in my days, enlightenment was a display manager, not an http server [10:22] JamesTait: Does bluetooth work on the Ubuntu Phone yet, in 2319? ;) [10:23] Bluetooth is no more. There is no need for colors, nor for teeth. We use more efficient methods of visualization and digesting. [10:24] mcphail, only for input, as far as I've been able to tell. Occasionally I've heard reports of it also working with in-vehicle voice kits, but I'm not sure if I believe them. [10:25] * mcphail is losing hope it will connect to his flying car [10:26] JamesTait: I'll take a video of it working with voice control in my car :P [11:06] Heya guys, are there any news of a new Ubuntu phone yet? [11:16] NwS: not yet no why? [11:16] davmor2, I'm waiting for a new model so I can replace my current smartphone :P [11:18] Since you know the Meizu is sold out plus from what people told me it can't support convergence [11:22] NwS: you can buy a nexus4 or a bq 4.5? [11:23] I prefer to wait for an official Ubuntu phone instead of a gphone. And Bq is kinda ugly :/ [11:23] i have a bq, nothing wrong with it [11:23] "kinda ugly" personal opinion :P [11:35] NwS: maybe someone sells his meizu second hand in your region? [11:35] NwS: a new convergence phone is supposed to launch "early next year" from bq [11:36] NwS: their also working on an LG with ubuntu touch atm [11:36] svij: got an url on that mate? === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:37] lotuspsychje: Jane Silber said that somewhere in the last Q&A during UOS === bs is now known as bs_ [11:37] svij: thanks! [11:41] Also there will be a new Meizu phone, as Jane also said during UOS [11:46] sturmflut: thanks for info [11:46] ty for the info lotuspsychje & svij [11:46] sturmflut: you still working on the one+one aswell? [11:46] it all sounds very promising [11:49] lotuspsychje: it was mariogrip who worked on one+one i think [11:49] oh right i confused tnx [11:50] sturmflut showed up on many articles too, thats why :p [11:50] lotuspsychje: I tried to build Ubuntu for the Aquaris M5, but decided to not devote any more time to it because porting Ubunt/Android is a time-consuming process and my time is most likely better spent on solving bugs that affect all devices [11:50] sturmflut: understandable :p [11:52] Also I lost all faith in humanity when I looked at the Android source code and build system [11:52] when i hear android my hair comes up :p [11:54] A guy posted an excellent comment on this to the ML today [11:54] "I guess the lesson is people who enjoy phones and sausages shouldn't watch either of them being made." [11:55] lol [11:55] you never know whats inside [11:57] Old german wordplay about sausages: "If people find out what's going in, you're going in where you'll never get out" [11:57] heh [12:03] well i rather have my saucage with an ubuntu flavor [12:05] every body know where Im can found ubuntu touch for HTC one m7 [12:05] ?? [12:05] !devices | Tod [12:05] Tod: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [12:06] thanks [12:07] !devices [12:07] You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [12:07] !htc [12:07] !htc one m 7 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [14:37] Hello. Does anyone knows what happens with source tree as it can't be compiled. [14:37] ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/media_recorder_client.cpp:265:22: error: 'struct android::MediaRecorderBase' has no member named 'pause' === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:13] Mirv, your recent patch to qtbase5 seems to be causing system-settings to crash on startup, but seems to be only on the desktop with vivid + stable overlay [15:14] Mirv, the crash is in qnmbearer [15:14] Mirv, stacktrace http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13825552/ [15:33] kenvandine: not my patch though [15:34] kenvandine: if you think there's something to fix ping Tony, but the general idea is to have that as a quick hotfix and work on connectivity-api bearer (I did draft packaging at lp:~timo-jyrinki/+junk/connectivity-api-bearer ) to replace the NM bearer even for OTA-9 [15:37] awe_, ^^ [15:37] awe_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13825552/ [15:43] kenvandine, hmmm... is that critical enough to block the OTA? [15:45] can we get the OTA out, and then shoot for a fix asap? [15:47] awe_, well it makes hacking on settings incredibly painful :/ [15:49] awe_, any ideas why it causes the crash on desktop only? [15:52] kenvandine, cause desktop users typically used Wired/Ethernet [15:53] and phones users don't [15:53] looks like the crash is the QNetworkManagerInterfaceDeviceWired class [15:54] kenvandine, can you file a bug and assign to me? [15:55] we can work on getting a fix after ota8.5 leaves the building [15:55] will do [15:55] sorry for the hacking pain [15:55] 8.5? [15:55] um, yes [15:55] have you read the landing emails lately? [15:55] ;)- [15:55] i guess not :) [15:56] so basically, this fix gets rid of a ton of unecessary NM DBus logic that impacts any Qt app which uses QNetworkAccessManager [15:56] we're planning on moving to an even newer plugin for OTA9 [15:57] which will replace the NM plugin with our own as Mirv mentioned above [16:00] awe_, bug 1523975 [16:00] bug 1523975 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "system-settings crashes on startup with 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu11~vivid1 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523975 [16:05] kenvandine, I would say "High" vs. "Critical". I will see if I can get something done before the break, but can't drop everything for this [16:05] awe_, ok [16:06] how much other stuff gets pulled in when you install qtbase? [16:07] not sure [16:07] well, how do you install? [16:07] anyone with uitk has it [16:07] uitk? [16:07] it's libqt5network5 [16:08] ubuntu-ui-toolkit [16:08] if you install ubuntu-system-settings from the overlay ppa you'll see the crash [16:08] right, so you add the overlay PPA as a PPA to your desktop [16:08] yeah [16:08] then update ubuntu-system-settings? [16:08] have to for phone development [16:09] and libqt5network5 [16:09] just apt-get upgrade :) [16:09] I do all my devel on the phone [16:09] no modem on my desktop [16:09] different wifi drivers, ... [16:09] yeah [16:10] I'll add a note to the original bug, maybe lorn might come up with a quicker fix [16:20] Hi guys, quick question, I want to test Touch on my old Nexus 4. However, I use Mint not Ubuntu, can I get away with using the same process as if I were using Ubuntu or am I best using Ubuntu to do it? [16:23] bs_: install phablet-tools, or you may need to add the PPA mentioned in the docs to get the latest version, and then use ubuntu-device-flash just the same as in in the instructions [16:25] ok, thanks. Thought I'd be ok on Mint, but thought it best to check! :) [16:35] Hello. Does anyone knows what happens with Android source tree as it can't be compiled. [16:35] ubuntu/libhybris/compat/media/media_recorder_client.cpp:265:22: error: 'struct android::MediaRecorderBase' has no member named 'pause' === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:31] * lpotter grumbles about bearers === pat_ is now known as Guest55002 === cptmashek_ is now known as cptmashek [19:20] how can i become ubuntu touch on my mobile [19:23] nuboro: which device? [19:24] do you mean the phone ? [19:24] huawei [19:24] kll ^^ [19:24] yes [19:25] see the devices list if someone did a port already. if not you need to port it yourself, but this is not a beginners task [19:25] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ [19:25] Huawei Ascend Y550 [19:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices === pdanek2 is now known as pdanek [19:52] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/#unlock-device where must you do that [19:52] if you havent a terminal on the phone [19:55] and how can you get ubuntu touch i dont understand it i have a huawei ascend y 550 [19:55] please help me [19:57] nuboro: no [19:57] i didnt understood [19:57] nuboro: that doesnt work for your phone. its not officialy supported. [19:58] ah ok ;( [19:58] you need to port ubuntu-touch to your phone first. but that is not a beginners task. [19:58] yes you already said that [20:00] how ? k1l [20:00] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/ [20:02] that isn't a beginner task ;( [20:02] that is what i tell you the whole time [20:02] porting a new OS to a device is not a beginners task at all. [20:04] when sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools i want to getthe uptde some idexes fail [20:05] does someone knows why [20:17] Hi :) [20:17] hi [20:20] got kind of "design" question ... I know that on PC ubuntu there has been talk about it and what is let's say outcome but friend which is left-handed actually asked me (he's already owning ubuntu phone) if is possible to show the "menu" from right side of the screen :D [20:21] thepeter: default bar goes left mate [20:21] I've been googling it but I can't find out anything on it :D [20:21] no, there is currently no option to swap the left/right swiping afaik [20:22] uhm okay :D I've expected it :P [20:23] dobey: but is it ... you know "the dead end"? or do you think that it might just happend in time? [20:24] personaly I don't have this issue but just to communitace him it the right way [20:27] btw to anybody responsible for the last OTA - great thanks for that since battery life is almost doubled on BQ Aquaris 5 :) I really appreciate it [20:29] i can't say if it will ever be implemented or not. i don't know [20:29] i can say "file a bug about it" though :) [20:31] thepeter: we have other users with existing bugs on bettery life [20:32] hehe I've been actually thinking about it (regarding "lefthanded" support wish) [20:34] lotuspsychje: on bq 5 I can confirm that it is much better after the last OTA, and I would buy a drink to the one who resolved it if it would be possible [20:35] i have 4.5 here and no issues [20:35] mcphail: around? [20:36] lotuspsychje: me neither what I am saying that battery now holds almost twice longer than before - I am not complaining I am expressing my kindest thanks for this improvement :) [20:42] dobey: so bug or question? [20:46] thepeter: bug [20:48] dobey: ok [20:48] http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-phones-spotted-in-a-store-in-germany-at-just-1-with-contract-497189.shtml [20:51] lotuspsychje: nice === salem_ is now known as _salem [20:54] * thepeter thinking about raising bug that bug reporting for ubuntu-touch is kind of messy and intricate (what is the right form to use?) [21:04] I guess I'll leave it for now ... will probably google-up some manualhow to put bug on launchpad to the right place [21:05] so long! (and thanks for all the fish) [21:32] http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/08/mozilla-will-stop-developing-and-selling-firefox-os-smartphones/ firefox OS gave up [21:51] lotuspsychje: good evening [21:52] mcphail: hi mate, nvm previous the user had battery improvements on ota8 :p [21:54] lotuspsychje: lucky person! I had another bad day on rc-proposed at the weekend. I'm thinking it must be something to do with dekko, but I have all the dekko-tweakgeek stuff turned off now [22:54] slangasek: I demand a zSeries phone! How else am I supposed to do proper banking? [23:07] sturmflut: you can have a zSeries phone, but it's going to be rotary dial [23:17] slangasek, rofl [23:18] ;)