[08:37] <Mirv> yofel: Riddell: if not critical, please try to hold on any big kde updates as we're trying to get Qt 5.5 migrated to release pocket. the pkg-kde-tools update broke half of the autopkgtests and they're now slowly being re-run after the fixed upload.
[08:39] <Mirv> last evening it was starting to look promising, as me and xnox fixed the last failing autopkgtests. the migration is however tangled a bit with poppler transition which is tangled a bit with s390x architecture but... let's see
[08:51] <yofel> k
[08:53] <clivejo> I assume, by the 376 of 376 broken packages that pkg-kde-tools is still broken?
[08:54] <yofel> in the CI? yes
[09:57] <yofel> clivejo: oh, I misread that. pkg-kde-tools is fixed, but the CI builds don't get auto-retried because of that. So unless they were part of the nightly re-run, they just need a retry or are broken for other reasons
[10:03] <sitter> yofel: which ones?
[10:05] <yofel> sitter: anything senile that failed with that undefined subroutine error
[10:05] <sitter> well, I can retry everything senile that failed if that helps
[10:05] <yofel> sure, not like anyone will get bothered by the wall of red
[10:06] <sitter> perhpas more motivating to get all of them fixed ^^
[10:07] <sitter> if your's truly didn't forget to pause that would help
[10:11] <sitter> should be all queued up momentarily
[10:11] <sitter> except java is dying so I have no clue if they really are
[10:21] <clivejo> what uses Java?
[10:21] <yofel> jenkins
[10:21]  * yofel is curious why it would die though
[10:29] <sitter> yofel: bottlenecking because of container windups I'd guess
[10:29] <yofel> :S
[10:29] <sitter> although I seem to recall jenkins not being very happy with getting 32 build requests at the same time
[10:29] <sitter> like in general
[10:31] <sitter> oohh shite
[10:33] <yofel> heh
[10:43] <clivejo> poor lemmings
[10:44] <clivejo> I thought KCI was in ruby, cause sitter loves ruby
[10:47] <sitter> clivejo: I also love java
[10:48] <sitter> in fact, the only language I do not love is python
[10:48] <clivejo> I thought you would be more comfortable in assembly!
[10:49] <clivejo> or just reading pure machine code
[10:51] <clivejo> one of my favourite sitter quotes "that person is gonna suffer,  really really terribly"
[10:51] <sitter> clivejo: you can't really do OOP in asm, so it's not really playing in the same league :P
[12:03] <Yossarianuk> is plama 5.5 going to be backported to 15.10 ?
[12:06] <Yossarianuk> *plasma*
[12:30] <yofel> Yossarianuk: yes, without ETA. (The beta won't, that much I can say)
[12:33] <Yossarianuk> yofel: cheers - looking forward to it, each version is better than the previous one.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:05] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[16:42] <bshah> sgclark: your recent commit to kdeplasma-addons added git markers
[16:42] <bshah> (debian packaging)
[16:42] <bshah> bshah@archbox ..ea-tooling/git/plasma/kdeplasma-addons (git)-[kubuntu_unstable] % git grep HEAD
[16:42] <bshah> debian/control:<<<<<<< HEAD
[16:42] <bshah> debian/plasma-widgets-addons.install:<<<<<<< HEAD
[16:44]  * bshah goes to bed for today
[17:08] <Riddell> clivejo: ping?
[17:15] <BluesKaj> hmm, still no plasma 5.5 in the backports...guess it's going to take a while for Xenial
[19:31] <clivejo> lots of lemmings saved!
[19:32] <clivejo> ahoneybun ovidiu-florin is there a private telegram channel without porn spammers?
[19:33] <clivejo> Riddell: pong
[19:33] <clivejo> but not for long, got a meeting at 8pm
[19:34] <clivejo> who fixed KCI?
[19:35] <clivejo> ok, bored talking to myself, be back in couple of hours
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: ping
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: ping
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> what is the status of plasma 5.5 in Kubuntu?
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> I understand it is not packaged
[21:18] <ovidiu-florin> do you need someone to package it manually?
[21:18] <ovidiu-florin> don't we have some sort of automation for this?
[21:18] <ovidiu-florin> how can I help move this?
[21:19] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, yes, she asked if someone would package it since she was busy with family matters
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: no. That's the only one. We're doing our best to kick them out in time
[21:19] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: I see
[21:20] <BluesKaj> yesterday, you can check the logs if you wish
[21:20] <ovidiu-florin> so it needs to be packeged manually?
[21:20] <BluesKaj> i don't know , she didn't give any details
[21:21] <ovidiu-florin> I'll wait for her or yofel 's input
[21:21] <BluesKaj> yeah, probly a good idea
[21:22] <BluesKaj> is it ready for Wily
[21:27] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: from my part its stuck on ENOTIME as I wanted to look at it after getting the wily stuff out. To get plasma done, someone first has to do the frameworks update and then we can look at plasma
[21:28] <yofel> we can scripts for that, but as the environments between CI and dev don't match there is still manual work involved
[21:28] <yofel> s/can/have
[22:14] <clivejo> KCI is looking good :)
[22:18] <clivejo> spoke too soon
[22:31] <yofel> well, seeing the fix count go down is certainly welcome
[22:31] <clivejo> indeed, might be able to fix some of them now!
[22:32] <valorie> yofel: did you see that Paulo Dias asked some good questions on the ML?
[22:32] <valorie> I was hoping to see him here
[22:33] <valorie> ooo, green
[22:33] <valorie> nice to see
[22:33] <yofel> no, looks like kmail refused to fetch mail yesterday. How nice of it to give me a break.. again...
[22:35] <clivejo> my kmail is actting the buck again
[22:35] <yofel> if that's the Paulo I remeber then his IRC nick was _Groo_ or so 
[22:35] <clivejo> cant connect to dbus errors
[22:41] <vertago1> it would be helpful to me to know what the workflow for a packager is like. I can understand the tools fairly easily, but if I were to jump into it I think I would be inefficient at packaging something like plasma or kde
[22:43] <clivejo> hi vertago1
[22:43] <vertago1> hi
[22:45] <clivejo> well when everything is working right we have the Kubuntu Continuous Integration (KCI)
[22:45] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/
[22:45] <clivejo> it takes the latest snapshot from KDE and packages it
[22:46] <vertago1> Is something wrong with it?
[22:48] <clivejo> theres been a few issues recently
[22:49] <vertago1> Is the source code public?
[22:49] <vertago1> I could look into setting up a local test bed for it
[22:50] <yofel> the CI is one half of our workflow, for it there's the ci-tooling somewhere on alioth under pkg-kde/ and the pangea tooling from blue systems on github.
[22:51] <clivejo> vertago1: the packaging is here - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/
[22:51] <yofel> the other half is the kubuntu-automation tooling (on launchpad) which is used to generate the packages for the archive and PPAs, incorporating the work done in the CI
[22:58] <vertago1> I don't really understand all the terms yet so pretty much KCI is a set of scripts which add the packaging information to the kde projects so they can be packaged on launchpad?
[22:59] <vertago1> (the packaging information being the /debian folder)
[23:00] <clivejo> yup
[23:01] <vertago1> so would I be looking at xenial?
[23:01] <vertago1> or would the backports be separate
[23:02] <clivejo> nice video explaining what KCI is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhJQSpy3Luc
[23:02] <vertago1> thanks
[23:05] <vertago1> that is a fairly recent video
[23:06] <clivejo> yup
[23:08] <clivejo> at the moment the packaging is falling to mainly yofel and sgclark
[23:08] <clivejo> so they are under a lot of pressure :(
[23:10] <clivejo> yippeee
[23:15] <clivejo> yofel: cantor FTBFS - Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Skipping patch.
[23:15] <clivejo> does that mean the patch is now upstream?
[23:16] <yofel> do verify that it's true, but usually yes and the patch has to go.
[23:16] <clivejo> just checking, Ill grab the packaging and test it
[23:41] <vertago1> So are the issues with KCI solved? (I am guessing because of those irc bot messages)
[23:54] <valorie> vertago1: sitter paused CI last night and applied some fix
[23:54] <valorie> so yes, much better health today!
[23:56] <valorie> vertago1: are you Paulo Dias from the ML?
[23:57] <vertago1> No I am a long time kubuntu user. I was looking into what it would take for me to be able to help with stuff like packaging
[23:57] <vertago1> I just watched sitter's video on youtube about KCI
[23:59] <vertago1> so the people who work on packaging pretty much fix errors caught by KCI, and bug reports?