=== agamic is now known as Agamic [03:43] Hello! [03:45] Anyone here who can assist me with trying to volunteer with this platform? [03:45] As in, help make UbuntuStudio better? [03:47] If that's the case, there's a development channel, #ubuntustudio-devel though right this minute not much activity so you may have to wait a couple hours before a dev pops up. There's also the development mailing list. [03:52] Not so much on the dev side. As in, help with PR or whatever else one can help with aside from dev. [03:52] c00t3r [03:53] At some point I'd like to do more of the dev, but I'd need to learn a lot more than my python/php scripting knowledge. [04:02] Angretlam: Development related stuff goes on there as well, of course. [04:03] you'll find them a bit quiet now though, considering the time. [04:03] Angretlam: The lead dev is UTC +2 or 3 so will probably wake up soon. [04:03] Okay, thank you. Who would be good to speak with for PR? Maybe helping with Social MEdia. [04:04] Angretlam: Look for zequence [04:04] Oh nice, OvenWerks is alive! \o/ [04:04] utc -7 [04:04] Okay. Thank you to the both of you. [04:06] How long have both of you been associated with StudioUbuntu? [04:08] Angretlam: Sakrecoer is part of PR and is normally around on ubuntustudio-devel [04:09] Angretlam: I have been around since 12.04 ish [04:09] I've been hanging out in here since sometime in 2013 I believe. [04:10] Okay. I think I first bumped into this distro around then, but I didn't tarry long. What's kept you here in the group so far? [04:10] most of the menu layout is mine, some of the system settings too. [04:11] It's waht I use, may as well make install work the best I can. [04:11] I am working on "autojack" which should make pulseaudio and jack work together a lot better. [04:12] Cool beans. So you are on the dev side then. [04:12] I am not much good at PR or look and feel... I seem to be stuck on the 90s :) [04:13] I actually Like the 95ish fvwm look. [04:16] Haha. It's not all too bad. When I spend my time in SSH more often than not, the gui really doens't matter anyways. [04:17] I do that too, both irc and email are ssh for me. [04:17] Alpine+irssi+newsbeuter+etc. :P [04:17] I use firefox though! [04:17] But a DAW is pretty hard to use through SSH. [04:18] ^That is true. I can't say I've done any daws through SSH, at least not yet. [04:18] There is one... trying to remember what it is called. [04:19] I think I'm content for the moment, just trying to better understand the Linux side of Audio Production. [04:21] Nama is all CLI, there are some blind people who use it. It seems to work really well [04:21] https://freeshell.de/~bolangi/cgi1/nama.cgi/00home.html [04:22] currently I am learning c++ by working on Ardour. I have been doing bug fixes in the control surface end of things. [04:23] Do you have any comparitive experience with Java or Objective C? [04:24] not really, I have used basic, assembly, c, tk/tcl, perl and a bit of python. [04:24] Okay. So, what are you using to build your autojack? [04:25] so far it is a bash script. [04:25] it is run at session start. [04:26] it unloads unneeded things from pulseaudio, such as device detection and alsa devices as well as the jack-detect. [04:27] Then it starts jack on the selected device (or the default) and resets the pa-jack bridge. [04:28] Okay. I understand the scope a bit better now. [04:28] It then bounces through the rest of the audio devices and connects them to jack using zita-ajbridge. It can create secondary pa-jack bridges for these devices as well. [04:28] Angretlam: We are seeing so many people that are trying to use USB mics with internal outputs :P [04:29] I also want to be able to switch Jack's master device if the user selected main device shows up after session start. [04:30] Or add a USB device later as well. [04:31] There is another project called ubuntustudio-controls which would be able to set which device should be default and which devices should be ignored. [04:33] Gotcha. So, is this the group effort to take on some of the custom applications kxstudio ahas put out? [04:36] Angretlam: We would like to use some of Falktx utilities, but they would first have to be packaged in debian. [04:37] the control utility though I am not so sure of. [04:38] Carla we would really like to see though. [04:39] A ubuntu flavour has some restraints kxstudio does not. [04:40] What is that? I'm curious. I do know there are some canonical reqs, but I didn't think they'd prevent progress. [04:40] Debian #798490 [04:40] Debian bug 798490 in wnpp "RFP: carla -- audio plugin host supporting LADSPA, DSSI, LV2, VST2/3 and AU formats" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/798490 [04:40] The basic thing is that our packages come by way of debian. [04:41] This means the meet debian standards. [04:41] Falk can package anything he wants. [04:41] In theory you could actually get them directly into Ubuntu, but then someone would have to maintain it and all that jazz. [04:43] Gotcha. It makes sense, and it doesn't. It would be nice if there was a more unified body. [04:43] I know many highschool/college students/home bodies that would love to have a nice electronic studio [04:43] without having to pay $$ for mac equipment or deal with Microsofts shady privacy issues. [04:46] In that effort, it's actually why I came to Ubuntu studio. I want to help so that it is a platform better known, [04:47] and well suited for live and studio use. I've met a lot of people who would love to have the opportunity to [04:47] use this system, but haven't had the experience. As I get more familiar with it, I hope to help them and induct them [04:47] into the world of linux and AV. [04:48] Sounds good. [04:49] Unit193: I have tried to make a proper start at debianizing Carla. [04:49] Debian howtos and tools seem to expect auto tools. [04:50] debianizing Carla would require customizing some things and then starting to figure out depends from there. [04:51] Unit193: I need something much simpler to start with I think. [04:52] Odd as it sounds, a straight tarball build of Carla is quite straight forward... easy even. [04:52] OvenWerks: Well it bundles a lot, so that's another problem. But yes, easier start would be good. [04:53] * Unit193 has done a bit of packaging. [04:53] I should probably start with my own utilities :) [04:55] You've piqued my interests. What would I need to know to get my feet wet with dev? I understand high-level programming (Python) [04:55] It depends [04:55] (my favourite answer) [04:56] It depends on what you want to do. [04:56] It depends on if you are going to to use launchpad and BZR or something else. [04:56] Mine are on github. [04:57] Launchpad does Git now. [04:57] I guess I wouldn't necassarily know where to start and by extension know what I want to do. [04:58] I like to contribute, but I've never been apart of a dev group. I've always done all coding on my own. [05:30] Unit193: not sure if they felt welcomed or sent away... [05:30] Well it seemed pretty welcoming to me. [05:30] OvenWerks: Not in -ot yet? [05:31] -ot? [05:36] #ubuntustudio-offtopic [05:36] Ah, guess I should be there too. [21:34] hello [21:35] in a new user [22:02] I want a lighter weight desktop to aim more horsepower toward the recoding, instead of the GUI. What do I need to install if I first throw xubuntu on, or am I better off installing ubuntu studio then putting xfce on? [22:03] Next question, sort of unrelated... What piece of equipment are you folks using to get more than one track of audio oat a time into the computer? At some point I'm going to replace an old Mackie HDR with a computer and (insert piece of equipment here) [22:04] craigbass76: ubuntustudio is already based on xubuntu [22:04] :P [22:05] OvenWerks: Thanks. I should have seen that. [22:05] how much are you looking to spend on an IO box? [22:05] https://www.presonus.com/products/AudioBox-1818VSL [22:05] is $500sih I think. [22:06] *$500ish [22:06] Aww... Phew. I was thinking I'd get shafted for way over a grand. I think we paid 3k-ish for the Mackie back in the day [22:06] Do you use this rig personally? [22:06] personally, I am using a delta 66 from days gone by. [22:07] But I have heard that people have had good success using it with Linux. [22:08] 18 simultaneous... That's awesome. I don't think I've ever used more than 12 at a whack, and that was with the drums taking up seven or eight [22:09] focusrite has this one: http://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/scarlett-18i20 [22:09] Sweetwater has some so many day money back deals, so if I can't make 'er go I can always return it, but if you say people have had good luck I should be fine [22:09] A look through thge linux audio users archives will find some people's experiences [22:10] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/ It is almost easier to search using google [22:11] for example: https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7543 [22:12] so either one, I just plug instruments in one end, run usb out to a computer, and bam? [22:12] pretty much, run jack on it. [22:12] with lots of swearing in the second half? [22:13] The units are USB2.0 compliant so linux should just see them out of the box. [22:14] Remember when USB first came out and everything was supposed to "just work?" I remember kodak cameras being the biggest cluster... [22:15] At the time I was running on free give away old computers so USB was the thing I didn't see :) [22:16] There are some mutli channel PCIe cards, but they are all 1k plus. [22:18] So when I bought my latest mother board, I looked for something with as many old pci slots as I could. (got 3) [22:18] I run the D66 in one of them and and old audioPCI in another for MIDI. [22:22] We don't hire out the studio anymore, and the electric drums only take up two tracks (unless I guess if I run each pad seperately and trigger drums sounds in the software somehow) so these two rigs you pointed me at should be plenty [22:22] Ever look at drumgizmo? [22:23] * OvenWerks does actually break his pad set into 9 tracks. [22:23] No. I sampled a friend's set of DW's back in the day, and have been noodling with those recordings in I think Hydrogen [22:24] Haven't messed with it in about a year. I've got a spare laptop drive though, so I'll throw ubuntu studio on this laptop and start getting ready [22:24] I think there is a new thing out called MRDR or drmr that will take hydrogen patches in a plugin. [22:24] Oh, I've just been dumping out to a wave and using that as a track in audacity [22:24] That would work too. [22:25] Of course, if you realize too late the kick's too loud... [22:26] Is there a website anywhere for collaborators to gather? "Hey, I need a lead track," or "I can cut you a bass track" type of thing. [22:27] join the lau mail list. I have seen people do remix or add a track here and there. [22:27] Most people are using Ardour though. [22:30] (as a DAW) [22:30] I used it on like Fedora4, but it did look slick [22:32] if you are installing it from repo get ardour4 or ardour3 not just ardour which is probably arodur 2. [22:33] latest is 4.4.0 release. 4.5 this month though. [22:46] Off to install. Thanks OvenWerks