[00:00] <RoadRunner> guys I'd really appreciate some help
[00:00] <VFDPrim> with?
[00:00] <iron883> what do ya need RoadRunner?
[00:00] <RoadRunner> screwed up some setting, now desctop and apps look moved to the right with a white border http://imgur.com/a/V0Ggk - how to get it fixed?
[00:01] <RoadRunner> its like there is a desktop over a desktop
[00:01] <rayzaum> hey, someone can help me, im install rails now and show me this msg when a i put "rails server" Usage: rails new APP_PATH [options], and more option..
[00:02] <ihsan__> hi. i am using ubuntu 14.04 i am writing a program and when executed i would like tominimize it to system tray. how can i do such thing on ubuntu
[00:02] <VFDPrim> roadrunner are you on a desktop or laptop
[00:03] <spice_> # systemctl start gdm
[00:03] <RoadRunner> I've been experimenting with the task bar when I must have done something
[00:03] <RoadRunner> but can't seem to retrace my steps
[00:04] <spice_> how to querry a search engine without a browser?
[00:04] <RoadRunner> VFDPrim: desktop
[00:05] <VFDPrim> is there any chance you hit the buttons on the monitor
[00:05] <RoadRunner> VFDPrim: no
[00:05] <VFDPrim> or an animal did
[00:05] <Celelibi> Hi there.
[00:05] <VFDPrim> hmmm then i cant help bud im sorry
[00:06] <RoadRunner> VFDPrim: no animal :); I've just been playing around with wallpaper and taskbar
[00:06] <Celelibi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1499746 <-- What does "Fix Released" exactly means? I have someone with that exact bug on the ML of syslinux.
[00:06] <Celelibi> SHould I just tell him to upgrade or something?
[00:09] <Jan\> how do I make a command execute on boot ? i.e.    docker start something
[00:09] <RoadRunner> VFDPrim: here's a better image capture: this shows one wall paper under the other at the bottom of the screen http://imgur.com/a/7x2me
[00:18] <RoadRunner> VFDPrim: well... I figured it out!  thanks for trying to help :)
[00:20] <VFDPrim> good to hear what was the issue
[00:21] <Casper-> regedit_: more programs are made for LTS,  more people use LTS
[00:22] <Kidddd> Hello I installed a program via wine and it's a game. When I launch it the screen goes all out of resolution
[00:22] <Kidddd> how can I fit it to my specific monitor?
[00:22] <terrapin> is it possible to remote to ubuntu from windows thru xrdp with audio?
[00:22] <Kidddd> Is there a way to adjust the resolution of the game so that it will work in full screen
[00:23] <Kidddd> Hello
[00:26] <Bashing-om> Kidddd: Hi ! Your support issue ?
[00:26] <Kidddd> Hello I used Wine to successfullly install a game, however when launched the game's resolution is all messed up
[00:26] <Kidddd> I'm wondering how to change the games resolution
[00:27] <Kidddd> I really want to play this game so if someone could help me that would be awesome :)
[00:27] <Bashing-om> Kidddd: Sorry, I no Wine, no idea .
[00:27] <Kidddd> :(
[00:27] <VFDPrim> no clue bud
[00:27] <Kidddd> Anyone who's a Wine expert on?
[00:28] <inteus> Kidddd: that would probably be in the game's display settings. #winehq would probably be a better channel to help
[00:28] <Kidddd> ty
[00:28] <inteus> !wine
[00:28] <inteus> yeah, #winehq
[00:28] <terrapin> Hello, is it possible to remote to ubuntu from windows thru xrdp with audio?
[00:31] <bumblefuzz> is there an online resource that prescribes exercises to learn linux?
[00:31] <inteus> lots. Google is your friend (in other words, I'd have to google to give you examples) :)
[00:33] <inteus> terrapin: I don't have any experience with that. Stick around, somebody might be able to help. :)
[00:34] <terrapin> thanks, ya ill be here for a little or until i find a solution online! :)
[00:35] <VFDPrim> yea im doing the sam with my amd issue but looks like i might have to go back and start from scratch and just be happy with 14.4
[00:36] <decci> Is purging a good idea while uninstalling Ubuntu packages.
[00:36] <decci> We have been building .DEB packages but -P is required to get everything cleaned up
[00:42] <lagbox> hello any reason hdajackretask isn't working in 15.10 ?
[00:42] <Sean2147483647> Hi, have Telegram channel here? Please invite me, my username is @Sean64, Thanks.
[00:42] <Sean2147483647> I want to join Ubuntu Global Channel.
[00:43] <lagbox> identify with nickserv
[00:44] <Sean2147483647> lagbox: What?
[00:44] <terrapin>  Sean2147483647 /// type /msg nickserv identify  your password
[00:45] <lagbox> or /msg nickserv help     to get started
[00:46] <Sean64> Hi, this is my account
[00:48] <Sean64> Can invite My Telegram @Sean64 to Ubuntu Global Channel?
[00:48] <lagbox> what global channel
[00:49] <Sean64> I don't sure Ubuntu  have Telegram group or not..
[00:49] <lagbox> what is Telegram ?
[00:50] <Sean64> https://telegram.org
[00:51] <inteus> you'll have to get support from telegram. That's not supported here.
[00:51] <lagbox> they probably dont have a group
[00:53] <NinjahMeh> ho hum peeps
[00:54] <NinjahMeh> been looking into the subject of installing linux to a linx 8 windows 8.1 tablet. seems the main issues are the 32bit EFI and what not
[00:56] <NinjahMeh> anyone have any idea if there is somewhere specific that people may be looking into this area that i might find? going to be getting one of the tablets from uni before christmas and would like to see if it can boot linux properly and actually find drivers for the hardware inside as well
[01:10] <lagbox> anyone know why hdajackretask isn't working in 15.10
[01:19] <R3Robbie> Hello?
[01:20] <lagbox> hi
[01:25] <lagbox> every time i try to use it errors and my sound device disappears
[01:25] <rumptes> lagbox: yeah
[01:26] <lagbox> sweet another person to the ignore list
[01:26] <lagbox> man how many 12 year olds are there on here
[01:26] <ProbablyAndy> mmmmm?
[01:27] <sam__> i used to be 12
[01:27] <lagbox> ProbablyAndy, ah just a bunch of random pms from rumptes
[01:27] <ProbablyAndy> in a few years, i'll again be a multiple of 12.
[01:27] <ProbablyAndy> ah pm's.  fun.
[01:27] <lagbox> yea i have to wait another 5 years to hit a multiple
[01:29] <lagbox> but anywho got to reboot to get my sound back apparently
[01:36] <anabain> can anybody explain what 169.254.0.0 destination is (obtained from route -n command)? there are also 0.0.0.0 and 192.168.1.0 destinations
[01:40] <ProbablyAndy> anabain: i usually associate 169.254 addresses with the computer being unable to get an address from somewhere, and so it just makes that one up.  Not sure what it means in hte context of a destination
[01:41] <maengora> buenas noches
[01:41] <maengora> alguien conoce un canal de base de datos?
[01:42] <anabain> ProbablyAndy, thanks, I'm googling right now in order to get some info, but so far I've found the same info you've given.
[01:43] <ProbablyAndy> anabain: whats the ip of the interface?
[01:43] <anabain> 192.168.1.33, given statically through /etc/network/interfaces on a kubuntu 15.10 box
[01:44] <ProbablyAndy> anabain: http://serverfault.com/questions/132657/where-route-to-169-254-0-0-comes-from ?
[01:44] <anabain> ProbablyAndy, btw, my dd-wrt routing table has also this 169.254.0.0 destination
[01:45] <anabain> thanx
[01:45] <ProbablyAndy> that was for red hat, but i assume its similar.
[01:47] <anabain> ProbablyAndy, that means that I somehow have dhcp enabled on my kubuntu box, right?
[01:48] <lagbox> anyone have any suggestions for getting sound device back into my sound output list in sound settings
[01:48] <lagbox> before i ran hdajackretask it was listed, now gone
[01:49] <anabain> maengora, have you tried the searching channel tool, something like "database" on its "join channel" dialog box?
[01:49] <lagbox> restarting pulseaudio doesn't seem to help
[01:50] <maengora> ok
[01:50] <ProbablyAndy> anabain: i'm not certain, it seems that zeroconf is separate from dhcp
[01:51] <anabain> ok
[01:55] <lagbox> anyone know what to do to get audio device listed in output again after it disappeared
[01:55] <lagbox> alsa, pulseaudio ?
[02:09] <lagbox> ah what ever i am sure it will get fixed eventually, just like the rest of the bugs that were pushed out that shouldn't have made it
[02:10] <Probably1ndy> pulseaudio supposedly handles adding things automagically, right?  i don't supposed you could unload the module and reload it?
[02:10] <lagbox> i have reloaded it
[02:10] <lagbox> but i just restarted so i have audio again
[02:11] <terrapin> Hello, is it possible to remote to ubuntu from windows thru xrdp with audio?
[02:11] <Probably1ndy> ah
[02:11] <Probably1ndy> weird
[02:11] <lagbox> i mean i have ran into these types of things before, just can't figure out at which 'level' it needs to be resolved :)
[02:12] <Probably1ndy> terrapin: probably yes, but you probably have to install it.
[02:12] <regedit> hello
[02:12] <lagbox> the hdajackretask error almost looks like it is expecting a different dev structure
[02:12] <lagbox> hi regedit
[02:12] <Probably1ndy> liuxg: yeah, its a little obfuscated these days.
[02:13] <liuxg> Probably1ndy, hi
[02:13] <terrapin> Probably1ndy, could you give me a link to a how-to or a tutorial
[02:13] <Probably1ndy> howdy liuxg
[02:13] <liuxg> Probably1ndy, what's up?
[02:13] <lagbox> Probably1ndy, this could all just be an issue with how retask works and since it is erroring it didn't fully reconfigure and perhaps is putting it into a bad state
[02:13] <lagbox> but should be a way to 'reset' or reload as you are mentioning
[02:14] <lagbox> should be able to unload all that and reload it all back in
[02:15] <regedit_> how do i tell from command line what is the current Nvidia Prime selection? i want my script to execute something based on that setting
[02:15] <Probably1ndy> terrapin: i'm looking for a howto, but i really don't know what your situation is.  hmm
[02:15] <Probably1ndy> liuxg: not much.  bored.  should be working on other things.
[02:16] <Probably1ndy> lagbox: yeah, you'd think restarting the service would do that.  did you restart pulseaudio and alsa, or just one of them?
[02:16] <lagbox> Probably1ndy, which alsa service these days .. there are a few
[02:16] <Probably1ndy> lagbox: i have no idea.  i don't even use ubuntu :D
[02:16] <regedit_> how do i tell from command line what is the current Nvidia Prime selection? i want my script to execute something based on that setting
[02:16] <lagbox> hehe, no worries
[02:17] <lagbox> i have service   alsa-restore alsa-state alsa-store and alsa-utils
[02:17] <Probably1ndy> geez.  i think store and restore just save and recall mixer settings
[02:18] <lagbox> Probably1ndy, the next time i feel like not having audio again ... i will try a few of them
[02:18] <Probably1ndy> seems like a strategy.
[02:20] <lagbox> would love to figure out why the hdajackretask is looking for a dev dir that doesn't exist
[02:23] <networkTrouble> hi all. I have a system plugged into  network that has a vlan, and I'm pretty sure I configured it correctly; Where would I be able to check logs for errors with networking
[02:23] <networkTrouble> ?
[02:23] <lagbox> Probably1ndy, thanks btw
[02:25] <Probably1ndy> lagbox: no prob, hope you get it worked out.
[02:27] <Probably1ndy> networkTrouble: depends on what kind of errors you're looking for.  i would think something in /var/log might have something
[02:28] <catfishk> networkTrouble, try /var/log/syslog.  NetworkManager logs there *i think*
[02:29] <catfishk> networkTrouble, your switchport is vlan-enabled but not a trunk port, right?
[02:32] <ivan_on_trac> The syntax of this command: dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive console-setup -u  It is possible that the command is waiting for user input? I run this command by ansible and sometimes the task is stopped in this command.
[02:35] <multi_io> the ubuntu server installer wants to create a swap partition by default?
[02:36] <networkIssue> hi all. Is there an easy way to test which eth I'm plugged into? (eth0 or eth1, etc)
[02:37] <lagbox> ifconfig
[02:37] <networkIssue> I don't have the ethernet configured yet.
[02:37] <networkIssue> I am running ubuntu server and only loopback is listed.
[02:38] <networkIssue> I think I've modified /etc/network/interfaces correctly to get things up and running, but I'm not sure if I should be configuring eth1 or eht0?
[02:38] <Probably1ndy> ethtool can tell you if there is a cable plugged in
[02:38] <networkIssue> lagbox: ^^
[02:38] <networkIssue> Probably1ndy: what would the arguments be?
[02:39] <networkIssue> PS I don't have an internet connection working yet)
[02:39] <Probably1ndy> hm
[02:39] <Probably1ndy> i would think "ethtool eth0"
[02:39] <Probably1ndy> and then do eth1 as well, and see which one has linked detetected. i don't think it has to be up, but i could be mistaken
[02:40] <happyfr0gg> Is there a terminal program available that passively listens to and displays the actual commands executed when interacting with the GUI???
[02:42] <Bashing-om> ivan_on_trac: (??) unless " noninteractiv ' is the new debconf frontend that command makes no sense . see: ' man dpkg-reconfigure ' .
[02:42] <happyfr0gg> I would like to see the commands executed when interacting with the GUI.
[02:42] <Guest26967> Might anyone know how I can enable Multibyte string input conversion for my LAMP stack?
[02:42] <lagbox> who says that application is executing any commands ?
[02:44] <multi_io> the ubuntu server installer wants to create a swap partition by default...
[02:44] <multi_io> isn't a swap FILE much more common these days?
[02:44] <lagbox> no
[02:44] <ivan_on_trac> Bashing-om: Why not make sense?
[02:44] <lagbox> but either one you want
[02:45] <Bashing-om> ivan_on_trac: The syntax is not proper .
[02:45] <happyfr0gg> Is there a terminal program available that passively listens to and displays the actual commands executed when interacting with the GUI???  I would like to see the commands executed when interacting with the GUI.
[02:46] <happyfr0gg> Kind of like peeking behind the scenes of the GUI.
[02:46] <Probably1ndy> happyfr0gg: i can't think of any.  most of the GUI you see is just calling functions internal to a program, not terminal commands.
[02:47] <happyfr0gg> Probably1ndy - Oh.
[02:48] <Probably1ndy> happyfr0gg: what are you trying to figure out with such a program?
[02:48] <ivan_on_trac> Bashing-om: I do not want user prompt(dialog). because the command runs in the background at Ansible. What is the correct syntax? Or other alternative;
[02:51] <Bashing-om> ivan_on_trac: There is none that I can see for anyway to completely avoid user input . the 'u' argument >> " If this parameter is set though, only questions that have not yet been seen will be asked. " .
[02:51] <happyfr0gg> I would like to see the various call functions when certain things are done via the GUI. Like I said, peek behind the scenes of the GUI and learn the various call functions.
[02:53] <Probably1ndy> happyfr0gg: you might could see that kind of thing with gdb, but the program of interest might have to be recompiled with all the debug info left in first
[02:53] <ivan_on_trac> Bashing-om:  I think I understood! However, I run this on my command prompt and raised no syntax error.
[02:56] <happyfr0gg> Probably1ndy - Okay, thanks.
[03:00] <Bashing-om> ivan`Have you read the 'man' for the command ? "dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive" Seems to me that you are attempting to set a differenct frontend other than the default . Is this your intent ?
[03:15] <tx> Hey guys, anyone use autologin on SLiM?
[03:15] <tx> I can't seem to get it work work on ubuntu 15
[03:15] <tx> and before you say it, yes, I know, SLiM is no longer maintained and hence insecure.
[03:22] <ubuntu823> I wrote a ubuntu iso to my flash drive and used it for a few weeks.  I tried to resize the size of the drive and found errors so I wiped the drive with a format and tried to reinstall the ubuntu iso to my flash drive and now it will not boot. I even redownloaded the iso
[03:25] <Zunino> The IcedTea Java plugin has suddenly stopped working on my Ubuntu 15.04 64-bit system. When I try to run the Java verification applet from http://java.com/en/download/installed8.jsp, I get an error.
[03:26] <deadmund> I did an updated to 3.16.0-55-generic and now I don't have a GUI?  I have xserver-xorg installed but startx and lightdm just do nothing?  I don't have a /var/log/xorg.log anymore at all?  Any help plz!! :)
[03:26] <Zunino> I've already tried reinstalling the icedtea-plugin package, but to no avail.
[03:27] <ubuntu823> I wrote a ubuntu iso to my flash drive and used it for a few weeks.  I tried to resize the size of the drive and found errors so I wiped the drive with a format and tried to reinstall the ubuntu iso to my flash drive and now it will not boot. I even redownloaded the iso Please help me I need this done for tomorrow
[03:27] <deadmund> oh, wait...
[03:27] <deadmund> just a second for me! ??
[03:27] <adante> hi
[03:28] <adante> when i make a change to /etc/ssh/sshd_config, the changes do not apply if i try to run /etc/init.d/ssh/{restart;reload;force-reload}
[03:28] <adante> i have to manually kill -9 the existing sshd
[03:28] <adante> why is this?
[03:29] <Probably1ndy> adante: i think that is because it doesn't want to break the ssh session you already have running.
[03:29] <Probably1ndy> i think if you disconnect and reconnect an ssh session, it'll update the changes.   I think.
[03:29] <ubuntu823> dead try pressing ctrl+alt+F7
[03:30] <deadmund> I'm getting a lightdm login window (GUI) but when I log into KDE it immediately dies without any error.  Looking at .xsession-errors in my home folder just says  "Disconnected from notified D-Bus bu and then init: startkde main process killed by TERM signal"  Any suggestions??
[03:30] <rahuldev> hi, In my laptop ubuntu 15.04 is installed, I am trying to install 15.10 ubuntu, on Installing in "something else" How can I delete there partitions?
[03:30] <Bashing-om> deadmund: sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-71-generic . You are out of date . What results when you update the system ' sudo apt update ' sudo apt upgrade ' ?
[03:30] <ubuntu823> Can you try a gnome desktop?
[03:31] <deadmund> Bashing-om: I'm running 14.04.3 LTS
[03:31] <adante> Probably1ndy: i don't have any sessions running, i'm directly in terminal at the moment (the reason i am is because the config is wacked and i CAN'T ssh in)
[03:31] <deadmund> Bashing-om: so for me 3.16.0-55-generic is the newest.  I cannot update or upgrade to another.  But thank you for the help :)
[03:32] <adante> anyway no biggie just curious
[03:32] <ubuntu823> try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop dead
[03:32] <Probably1ndy> adante: yeah thats weird, not sure.
[03:32] <HelloGoodye> Hola
[03:32] <rahuldev> How can I delete partition at the time of installtion of ubuntu?
[03:32] <deadmund> ubuntu823: I'm running KDE and I already have kubuntu-desktop installed (I reinstalled it!) I guess I could try again?
[03:32] <HelloGoodye> I'm a newbie to Ubuntu and it's awesome!
[03:32] <Shibe> what is that applet called
[03:32] <Shibe> the one that lets you switch between performance and powersave?
[03:33] <deadmund> for the record, I have KDE Plasma Desktop as the session (the one and only) in lightdm so I am fairly sure KDE is installed.
[03:33] <Bashing-om> deadmund: Yes, but " 3.16.0-55-generic ' os old .. currect is as I have shown . Get youu up to date then see what is up with the GUI .
[03:34] <deadmund> Bashing-om: I am running the LTS version on purpose.  That is the newest kernel for my OS.
[03:35] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[03:35] <rahuldev> How can I delete partition at the time of installtion of ubuntu? anyone please help me
[03:38] <deadmund> rahuldev: Do you have another OS installed??
[03:38] <rahuldev> deadmund, 15.04 is installed!
[03:38] <rahuldev> ubuntu 15.04
[03:39] <deadmund> rahuldev: If you delete the ubuntu partition, you will have nothing installed!
[03:39] <supersamm> delete it
[03:39] <supersamm> ubuntu is just inferior in everyway to freebsd
[03:39] <Probably1ndy> 'kay
[03:40] <rahuldev> deadmund, yes I want to delete it and want to reinstall again
[03:40] <rahuldev> supersma, can't find delete option in ubuntu 15.10 "something else"
[03:41] <Probably1ndy> rahuldev: there's typically a manual partitioning thing in the ubuntu installer, it should be able to let you just format the old root and reuse it as the new root,
[03:41] <supersamm> uhhhhhhi just installed ubuntu 15.10 and im sure you have the ability to wipe all partitions while you install it
[03:41] <Probably1ndy> although if you want to resize, you can do that there as well.
[03:42] <rahuldev> Ok I'll try that. Thanks supersamm deadmund Probably1ndy
[03:43] <rahuldev> Worked! there is option "New Partition Table" I clicked on it!
[03:43] <ubuntu823> Can we try to solve my problem please now
[03:43] <supersamm> sure ubuntu823, whats up?
[03:44] <ubuntu823> I wrote a ubuntu iso to my flash drive and used it for a few weeks.  I tried to resize the size of the drive today and found errors so I wiped the drive with a format and deletion of the partition and another format and tried to reinstall the ubuntu iso to my flash drive and now it will not boot. I even redownloaded the iso I need this done for tomorrow
[03:45] <ubuntu823> I had the same problem with chromium too
[03:46] <rockstar_> I'm trying to understand FM-Sketch or Probabilistic counting with stochastic averaging. Could anybody help me to understand it?
[03:46] <supersamm> resize your hard drive?
[03:48] <Probably1ndy> supersamm: maybe resize the partition to make room for data? I dunno.
[03:48] <ubuntu823> I have no data on the flash drive and I deleted the partitions and created a new one
[03:49] <Probably1ndy> how did you install the iso to the flash drive?
[03:49] <ubuntu823> The ubuntu version is chromixium
[03:49] <zykotick9> Probably1ndy: if they're talking about partitions... = not correctly.
[03:49] <ubuntu823> Used multiboot usb and I used unetboontu
[03:50] <rifadphotography> hallo all
[03:51] <Probably1ndy> yeah i'm not familiar with unetboontu... i usually use dd
[03:52] <rifadphotography> hallo
[03:52] <Probably1ndy> howdy
[03:53] <ubuntu823> I have a virtual machine of ubuntu but I forget the password
[03:53] <rifadphotography> how are you
[03:54] <rifadphotography> hay
[03:55] <ExplodingKittens> ubuntu823, you can reset a user password in recovery mode.
[03:55] <ubuntu823> How do I do that
[03:58] <ExplodingKittens> ubuntu823, when the VM is starting up (showing the VirtualBox or VMWare logo), hold down the shift key. You'll be greeted with a message saying "GRUB loading", and then a menu a second later. Use the arrow keys to select "Advanced options for Ubuntu", then press the right arrow key and select "Ubuntu, with Linux [string of numbers] (recovery mode)" and hit enter. Let me know once you've done that.
[03:58] <nolsen> ubuntu823: You can access recovery mode through GRUB.
[04:02] <ubuntu823> There explodingKittens
[04:06] <ExplodingKittens> ubuntu823, okay, after a brief moment of text scrolling around at the speed of sound, you should be greeted with a screen with a pink background and grey "window". Use the arrow keys to select "fsck", and press enter twice. After a second, a message asking you to press enter again will appear. Do so, and then select the "root" option from the menu. After the prompt appears, type 'passwd <user>', where <user> is your username. Hit enter, type in your new
[04:06] <ExplodingKittens> password and confirm it (remember, it won't appear on screen), and then you should see a message saying "password updated successfully". Now, just type 'reboot', and the VM will reboot as normal and you can use your new password.
[04:06] <ExplodingKittens> Whoo, that was a longer message than I was hoping, sorry channel.
[04:09] <ubuntu823> Thanks
[04:10] <ExplodingKittens> ubuntu823, no problem :)
[04:14] <ariel__> hi
[04:15] <ntfwc> hi
[04:16] <rahuldev> ubuntu3, sorry my internet was disconnected, can't read u'r chats!
[04:34] <Jvsn> a
[04:36] <rahuldev> b
[04:37] <Probably1ndy> d
[04:37] <rahuldev> :)
[04:38] <rahuldev> anyone pls suggest me good antivirus for ubuntu, I already searched google confusing result!
[04:39] <Probably1ndy> are you trying to keep ubuntu from getting viruses, or trying to scan files that the ubuntu machine might be serving up to windows boxes?
[04:40] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, I'm trying my browser works smoothly, I mean whenever I'm opening web page it showing some video each time
[04:41] <rahuldev> I think keep ubuntu from getting viruses!
[04:42] <Probably1ndy> ah, well.  I've never really run a virus scanner in linux, there isn't really a need to so far.
[04:43] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, ok thanks! then without antivirus is good
[04:43] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, when you open any webpage do you get video ads popup? or anyone else here get same problem?
[04:44] <Probably1ndy> i don't, but i've got a lot of ad blocking type stuff installed.
[04:44] <rahuldev> I mean not google, facebook, youtube, other some sites like!
[04:45] <rahuldev> I will try to use ad blocking!
[04:46] <Probably1ndy> ublock origin for firefox works pretty well, and isn't as resource heavy as adblock plus
[04:49] <rahuldev> thanks Probably1ndy !
[04:50] <Probably1ndy> anytime
[04:51] <rahuldev> These are the most weird ads I ever seen, I mean whenever you open web-page, a 10 seconds video pop-ups, and when you close that video, an new some ad web-page open in new tab.
[04:51] <Probably1ndy> that is a littel weird.
[04:51] <Probably1ndy> what webpage?
[04:52] <styles> hey guys, I know this is really early, I was given a Surface Book for work and I really want to install Ubuntu / any linux distro on it. I'm not finding much information about vendor support for things like the keyboard. Live CDs don't work (keyboard doesn't respond etc..) https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/comments/3qcqha/ubuntu_on_surface_book/ seems to be the only thing I can find. Anyone have any more information besides this?
[04:52] <rahuldev> except google, facebook, youtube, there are long list of these web pages.. wait a minute i post it
[04:53] <sumit> asterisk
[04:53] <Probably1ndy> styles: i have a friend with a surface pro 3 and it seems to run linux okayish, no idea on the book though.  I know the bios on them is kind of pain to work with, and the whole "we put the video card in the keyboard thing" might take a while to sort out
[04:54] <sumit> anybody on asterisk
[04:54] <styles> Probably1ndy, yeah that's what I was afraid of. Somebody mentioned that the hot loading of the GFX card might be the biggest hurdle
[04:54] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, these ads also come's in ubuntuform webpage like this
[04:54] <rahuldev> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147415
[04:54] <styles> I haven't used Windows in years, I may have to stick with my Lenovo ... I had no idea Microsoft got so privacy invasive
[04:54] <Anonaly> Hi I have XUbuntu 14.04 , I am about to install a new NVidia video card GTX 570, connected to a screen using a DVI -> HDI adaptable cable,
[04:54] <Anonaly> (adapted)
[04:54] <Probably1ndy> styles: yeah. it have win 10 on it?
[04:55] <styles> Probably1ndy, yeah
[04:55] <iron883> I am having trouble with git can someone help?
[04:55] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, pls check u'r also getting same kind of prblm!
[04:55] <styles> iron883, ask the question
[04:55] <Anonaly> is there something I should know before resetting this computer and installing this card / monitor ?
[04:55] <styles> Probably1ndy, yeah it's gnarly...
[04:55] <styles> by default search the web?
[04:55] <Anonaly> I know from past experience I have been locked out and put into the command
[04:55] <styles> collect all my info?
[04:55] <Probably1ndy> rahuldev: yeah i'm not getting it, but let me try again after disabling some adblockers (i have a few of them )
[04:56] <iron883> Ok so I am trying to set my remote staging and remote production urls
[04:56] <Probably1ndy> Anonaly: it might be worthwhile to install the nvidia packages before you install the hardware
[04:56] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, thanks, then it'll be relief to me, it's not any kind of malware
[04:56] <Anonaly> OK Probably1ndy I already have an Nvidia card installed with drivers ect installed
[04:56] <rahuldev> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147415
[04:56] <Anonaly> GTX 8800
[04:56] <Anonaly> GEforce I mean
[04:56] <Anonaly> its giving me problems and its old
[04:56] <iron883> I am using git remote add staging http://dev,myurl.com/staging.com
[04:56] <Probably1ndy> Anonaly: i think those now use an older nvidia-legacy driver
[04:57] <Probably1ndy> Anonaly: so you might want to make sure you ahve the new driver available, or are prepared to install it from the command line.  I have no idea what ubuntu's auto-driver-magic-installing stuff is like these days
[04:58] <Anonaly> ok Probably1ndy so when it goes to the shell prompt, I think there is some GTK program that changes the driver
[04:58] <Anonaly> jockey-gtk
[04:59] <Quantos> Does anyone that knows VirtualBox have a couple of mins, I'm having a hard time getting the Guest Additions to install properly
[05:00] <Probably1ndy> rahuldev: i disabled everything and i'm still not seeing any popup videos on that link.  Do you have any firefox extenstions that could be suspect?
[05:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos I've had better success using apt-get than mounting the guest additions ISO
[05:00] <Probably1ndy> Anonaly: hmm. that may work.
[05:00] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, I just freshly installed ubuntu just few minutes
[05:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos which version of Ubuntu?
[05:01] <Probably1ndy> rahuldev: it could also be that i don't have flash installed. hmm.
[05:01] <Quantos> SeriouslyLaugh: 15.10 is the host, and Windows 7 Pro 64 is the guest
[05:01] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, maybe!
[05:02] <Probably1ndy> any one else getting video ads and such over the ubuntu forums?
[05:02] <Probably1ndy> rahuldev: you could also right click on the webpage and click "view source"
[05:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos in terminal run sudo apt-cache search virtualbox to see the package options
[05:02] <Probably1ndy> and see if anything is suspicious (or pastebin it and we can all look)
[05:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> look for anything guest additions related
[05:03] <Quantos> I got a boat load of output from that SeriouslyLaugh
[05:03] <Quantos> What do you want from it?
[05:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos one sec, I'm actually doing this now myself
[05:04] <Quantos> Sure, thanks SeriouslyLaugh, take your time
[05:05] <rahuldev> Probably1ndy, I'll try it.
[05:08] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos try sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-dkms
[05:08] <Quantos> Okay, it's building a module or something
[05:09] <Quantos> SeriouslyLaugh: ^^^
[05:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah it's kernel depdendent Quantos
[05:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> will take some time
[05:09] <Quantos> Okay, it's done
[05:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> reboot the VM and see if it worked
[05:09] <Quantos> Oh, that wsa it?
[05:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> yep
[05:10] <zykotick9> SeriouslyLaugh: NOTE apt-cache does NOT require sudo.
[05:10] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah force of habit i suppose, thanks zykotick9
[05:11] <Quantos> Okay SeriouslyLaugh, how do I tell if it worked?
[05:11] <Quantos> VM rebooted fine
[05:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> if you have bidirectional clipboard enabled, try it Quantos
[05:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> i think that is one benefit of the additions
[05:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> you may need to shut the VM down to enable it
[05:12] <Quantos> I do, but I still don't see any USB devices
[05:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> inside the virtualbox application itself
[05:12] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah unless you enable them explicitly they wont be there -- check the VM settings
[05:13] <Probably1ndy> and isn't there a little icon in the tray in a windows guest when you have guest additions running?
[05:13] <Quantos> It won't even let me enable the USB controller SeriouslyLaugh
[05:14] <regedit> hello
[05:14] <regedit> my graphical desktop fails to show lately, i land at a black screen
[05:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos under the Ports tab, click the USB tab -- make sure the VM is powered off
[05:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> you can't change it while the VM is running Quantos
[05:14] <regedit> uninstalling/reinstalling Nvidia 358 drivers didnt seem to help
[05:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> if it's still disabled, it's an issue on the host machine Quantos
[05:14] <Quantos> gotcha SeriouslyLaugh, I'll try it that way
[05:15] <regedit> this specifically happens when selected to use the Intel embedded profile (not the GPU)
[05:17] <utu8o> is it true that the Chrome browser uses excessive resources compared to other browsers and will more quickly kill the battery life on your laptop/tablet/phone
[05:17] <Quantos> Okay, it will detect and install a driver for my webcam SeriouslyLaugh
[05:17] <SeriouslyLaugh> golden, great Quantos
[05:17] <Quantos> But I still can't access the USB thumb drive
[05:17] <Quantos> Maybe it's the drive itself
[05:18] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos yeah I just rebooted my VM and bidirectional clipboard is working for me -- so guest additions are good to go
[05:18] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos you may have to mount the USB drive
[05:18] <Probably1ndy> Quantos: is the drive already mounted elsewhere?
[05:19] <Quantos> It's mounted in the host OS guys
[05:19] <Probably1ndy> try unmounting it, then giving it to the guest
[05:19] <SeriouslyLaugh> hm this is a bit out of my wheelhouse, Quantos -- Probably1ndy made a good suggestion though
[05:20] <SeriouslyLaugh> you may have to mount it in virtualbox somehow like as an external drive perhaps?
[05:20] <Probably1ndy> when virtualbox passes it through, it should show up just like a usb drive would in windows
[05:21] <Quantos> Yeah, I'm thinking there's something wrong with the thumbdrive, but it does work fine in the host
[05:21] <DirtyCajun> hi everyone. what is yalls suggestion for automating an ubuntu server installation from first power on all the way to systemd scripts are copied from git and moved including restarts
[05:21] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos in the virtualbox application, focus the VM window and click Devices -> USB -> find the drive
[05:22] <Quantos> LOL, DirtyCajun - I call him the apprentice...
[05:22] <DirtyCajun> ahhahaha
[05:22] <DirtyCajun> im reading about kickstart but it doesnt seem to be ubuntu friendly enough yet
[05:23] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos see this link on how to mount that USB in VirtualBox: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31726/mount-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-with-ubuntu/
[05:23] <Quantos> SeriouslyLaugh: With the VM shut down?
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos my first piece of advice was wrong -- check the link above on how to mount it. shut down the VM fist
[05:24] <SeriouslyLaugh> first*
[05:24] <Quantos> I just absolutely LOVE my SSD, this would take so much longer without it
[05:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> any luck Quantos?
[05:31] <Quantos> No, I'm trying to make some heads and tails out of that link, it might take me a bit
[05:32] <Quantos> See, when I click on the USB devices I don't get any options, it just tells me that there's no USB devices
[05:32] <supersamm> hey is there an irc channel for livestreamer?
[05:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> you have to shut down the virtual machine, and then go into the options for the VM Quantos
[05:32] <alain> Anyone use Alpine here?
[05:33] <Quantos> Yeah, I get the same thing SeriouslyLaugh
[05:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> when you click the little plus icon, is the USB drive listed?
[05:33] <SeriouslyLaugh> you may need to eject it in the host machine. right click -> eject (in windows)
[05:33] <Quantos> No, it says USB Settings
[05:33] <Quantos> And No USB Device
[05:34] <Quantos> Okay, I'll try that too
[05:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> in the VM settings go to ports -> USB -> under USB Device Filters click the little green + symbol
[05:35] <SeriouslyLaugh> you should see the jump drive listed there. make sure you shut down first, and try ejecting the USB in windows also
[05:35] <Quantos> Okay, it's not mounted anymore
[05:36] <Quantos> I still get No USB Devices
[05:36] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos go to this link and look for the section called VirtualBox Mount USB with Filters
[05:36] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos http://www.htpcbeginner.com/access-usb-drive-in-virtualbox-guest-os/
[05:38] <Quantos> Yeah, SeriouslyLaugh I get the same No USB Devices listed there too
[05:38] <Quantos> Which is strange, it's got my camera and my keyboard and mouse
[05:38] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos try unplugging the USB and plugging it back in. let windows mount it.
[05:38] <Quantos> Okay, that's worth a shot
[05:39] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah agreed
[05:40] <SeriouslyLaugh> i have one more suggestion if that still doesn't work Quantos
[05:41] <Quantos> Yeah, SeriouslyLaugh I got nothing on that one
[05:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok try this. boot the VM and open terminal. run this: sudo usermod -aG vboxusers <username>
[05:43] <bboysoul> hello
[05:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> wait sorry that is the wrong command Quantos
[05:43] <SeriouslyLaugh> one sec
[05:44] <Quantos> Is there supposed to be smoke coming out of the pc now?
[05:44] <Quantos> ;)
[05:44] <Probably1ndy> no! put it back in!
[05:44] <Quantos> It's slippin' through my fingers...
[05:44] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos the weird thing is, the host machine isn't seeing the USB device even if the VM is powered off right?
[05:45] <Quantos> The host machine sees it just fine
[05:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> i mean in this screenshot: http://www.htpcbeginner.com/images/2015/07/vbox-usb-filter.jpg
[05:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> is the USB drive listed there at all?
[05:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> note the red arrow
[05:45] <Quantos> No, not even a little
[05:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah so thats an issue
[05:45] <SeriouslyLaugh> the VM can't mount it if virtualbox can't see it
[05:45] <Probably1ndy> but other things are listed?
[05:45] <Quantos> Hey, I just thought of something, I'm going to try a USB port on the back instead of the headers
[05:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah it could be a usb 3.0 issue
[05:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> try another port, make sure it's not blue
[05:46] <Quantos> No, it show's nothing in the USB devices at all Probably1ndy
[05:47] <Quantos> Rebooting the guest now
[05:48] <Probably1ndy> hm
[05:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos i would reboot the host too, and make sure you have the most recent virtualbox version installed
[05:48] <SeriouslyLaugh> weird that it's not seeing any usb devices at all
[05:48] <Quantos> I have 5.0.1
[05:48] <Probably1ndy> does virtualbox put out a log file somewhere on ubuntu?  might be worth perusing that.
[05:48] <Quantos> And I installed the extension pack dealymoohicky
[05:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos make sure the drive mounts ok in windows
[05:49] <Quantos> It probably does, that's a good idea
[05:49] <Quantos> I don't know if it will or not, we don't have a windows computer here
[05:49] <Quantos> It's all Linux
[05:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> oh i see
[05:49] <Quantos> Would the format have something to do with it?
[05:49] <SeriouslyLaugh> and the USB drive mounts OK in the host? like you can browse around?
[05:50] <Quantos> Yeap, just rebooting the host to make sure
[05:50] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah if it's NTFS i'm unsure if linux will even be able to mount it without installing something additional
[05:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos i didn't realize you were on a linux host -- you have to run a special command on the host machine
[05:52] <SeriouslyLaugh> Quantos on the host machine open terminal and run sudo adduser <<username>> vboxusers
[05:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> then log out and log back in and you should be able to see the USB drive now in the VM settings
[05:54] <Quantos> Okay SeriouslyLaugh, gonna reboot the host really quick and test that
[05:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok
[05:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> reboot not really required but couldn't hurt i guess
[05:58] <Quantos> Well SeriouslyLaugh, good news and bad news
[05:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok hit m
[05:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> me
[05:59] <Quantos> The good news is we have it working, the bad news is now I have to volunteer to have your love child
[05:59] <Quantos> Brilliant man, absolutely brilliant
[05:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> hooray!
[05:59] <Quantos> I've been working on this for about 30 hours
[05:59] <Quantos> You are the greatest man
[06:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> aw shucks
[06:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> glad you got it working
[06:00]  * Probably1ndy claps
[06:00] <Quantos> Me too, and hey, thanks for your time guys
[06:00] <Quantos> both of you
[06:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> any time
[06:00] <Silverbullet> Hi there!
[06:00] <Probably1ndy> howdy
[06:00] <Quantos> Now that it works, I'm going to excuse myself and head to bed though
[06:00] <Silverbullet> I want to load a program before X loads up, I forgot how to do so though
[06:00] <Quantos> Good night all
[06:01] <Jvsn> goodnight!
[06:01] <SeriouslyLaugh> later Quantos
[06:02] <Silverbullet> I could load it after using the ubuntu menu but It's not as fast as loading it in console
[06:04] <Silverbullet> aww shucks, I'mma have to pass on that, the board I was intending to boot small programs on has a bad CPU cooler!
[06:04] <Probably1ndy> laaaame
[06:04] <Probably1ndy> just blow on it.
[06:04] <Probably1ndy> constantly.
[06:04] <Silverbullet> haha it's a Prescott
[06:04] <Probably1ndy> nevermind
[06:04] <Silverbullet> hahahaha
[06:05] <Probably1ndy> may as well throw a frying pan on it and use it to make breakfast.
[06:09] <Silverbullet> have a good night, I'mma find a better cooler and come back once I run out of google-fu
[06:19] <amicrawler> is there a fix for ac quallcom cards for lenova yet ? i see there is talk but unsure if it can be used for my card
[06:19] <amicrawler> does any body have info that can help me
[06:20] <amicrawler> my card is Qualcomm Atheros Device 0041 (rev 20)
[06:24] <iron883> sorry not sure
[06:28] <armorial> ola, alguem sabe configurar o apache para rodar python?
[06:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> !pt | amorial
[06:30] <blugingress> Hi, Is there any wallpaper app can show flickr/500px pictures alive?
[06:32] <iron883> weird
[06:36] <gunnbr> Is there something other that iptables that can block access to ports?
[06:37] <gunnbr> I'm trying to get privoxy setup on port 8118. It works fine when I telnet to it on the same machine, but all other machines on the network get "connection refused".
[06:37] <nunenuh> hai
[06:39] <gunnbr> I tried adding an ACCEPT entry to iptables (with is then the ONLY rule in my iptables), but that didn't fix the problem.
[06:39] <gunnbr> So it seems there must be something else blocking the port.
[06:46] <gunnbr> And every google search I do just takes me back to modifying iptables, which has not worked thus far.
[06:47] <supersamm> i alt tab alot because i dont know what the fuck im looking for
[06:56] <joeytwiddle> i alt tab a lot because alt tab doesn't do what i expect it to do, so i have to alt tab some more
[06:56] <iron883> ??
[06:57] <iron883> stop alt tabbing!
[06:57] <BigRedNoseCherry> I have two video cards connected.Now,How could I tell Jessie which one It should use?
[06:57] <joeytwiddle> i'm trying to!!
[06:58] <gunnbr> BigRedNoseCherry: Who is Jessie?
[06:58] <iron883> im lost
[07:00] <hateball> BigRedNoseCherry: Did you mistake this for #debian ?
[07:00] <BigRedNoseCherry> hateball: ok,thanx a lot
[07:20] <amicrawler> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300861 this thread works for ac wifi
[07:20] <amicrawler> im using it now
[07:23] <amicrawler> speed are about half
[07:24] <amicrawler> compaired to lan speeds
[07:26] <amicrawler> g speeds are like b wifi
[07:26] <amicrawler> ac is like g or n
[07:26] <amicrawler> more like g
[07:27] <amicrawler> speed 6 on ac
[07:27] <amicrawler> and g is 1
[07:36] <amicrawler> ok play around with my router now getting isp speeds
[07:36] <amicrawler> this is to cool
[07:38] <amicrawler> about on g wifi 45 down
[07:43] <pabed>  I installed task (sudo apt-get install task) but how to run its consol?
[07:44] <joeytwiddle> pabed, dpkg -L task | grep /bin/       is what i usually do ;)
[07:48] <pabed> joeytwiddle: it said dpkg-query error
[07:50] <pabed> I meant how can i use this (task) and its features (linux.die.net/man/1/task)
[07:51] <sysop2> ok I convert a number to base 36 using bc but cant convert it back to base 10, what am I doing wrong?
[07:51] <sysop2> http://pastebin.com/mmDpZWXv
[08:03] <akik> sysop2: try running those setttings in bc and you'll receive another error msg
[08:03] <akik> ibase=36
[08:03] <akik> Runtime warning (func=(main), adr=6): ibase too large, set to 16
[08:03] <m0kc> hello all
[08:04] <guest-eIQpix> hi
[08:04] <guest-eIQpix> i am gay is that okay
[08:04] <m0kc> anyone know of any ways to make ubuntu look better?
[08:04] <guest-eIQpix> yes
[08:05] <m0kc> Doesn't matter to me
[08:05] <guest-eIQpix> my dickl is hardl
[08:05] <m0kc> I already use tweak tool, and themes, along with numix icons... just wondering if I'm missing anything
[08:07] <m0kc> I've found themes on ubuntuthemes, and deviantart. Guess I just feel like I'm missing something else
[08:07] <akik> sysop2: man bc: The legal values of ibase are 2 through 16.
[08:21] <Bogdar> Hello! How can I reliable determine what a driver handles some etherne interface ? I use Ubuntu 14.04 with 3.13.0-71-generic kernel
[08:22] <hateball> Bogdar: lspci -k
[08:23] <Bogdar> hateball, but there are no eth0 / eth1 / eth2
[08:27] <hateball> Bogdar: compare the device to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:27] <hateball> I dunno if there is some easier way
[08:28] <sysop2> hi I cant seem to get base2dec to work for me. http://pastebin.com/LZZgMuw0
[08:29] <sysop2> trying to do a base 36 conversion.
[08:29] <Quantos> Base 36 math?
[08:29] <Quantos> What do you use that for sysop2?
[08:30] <sysop2> its will solve a problem I am having.
[08:30] <Quantos> That sounds like more than calculating the tip for dinner
[08:31] <sysop2> ok what does that mean?
[08:31] <Quantos> I mean that it sounds really complex
[08:32] <sysop2> I just need both of the commands in the paste to work to solve an issue I am having.
[08:32] <Quantos> I took a look at it, but it's been 30 years since I've been in math class sysop2
[08:33] <Quantos> It looks interesting though
[08:33] <sysop2> thanks!
[08:33] <sysop2> its more of a syntax question than a math question.
[08:33] <Quantos> Oh, for programming?
[08:33] <sysop2> yes.
[08:34] <sysop2> sorry wrong channel I thought I was typing in #octave! lol sorry
[08:34] <Quantos> That's okay, I don't know the difference ;)
[08:35] <pabed_> I  follow this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13886978/    for installing taskwarrior but I face this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13887036/
[08:37] <luisiana> shadow.service does not work properly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13887037/ for me!
[08:40] <luisiana> why?
[08:50] <dr4gonlyfe> hi guys
[08:50] <rahuldev> hello
[08:50] <dr4gonlyfe> how can I check for denied connections?
[08:50] <dr4gonlyfe> I wanna see if a connection has been denied from a specific ip
[08:52] <joar> Since I upgraded to 15.10 NetworkManager is constantly using 20% CPU on my Lenovo Yoga 2 Pro laptop.
[08:53] <NoCode> Hi, I'm trying to, "sudo cp install/lib/lv2/drumgizmo.lv2 /usr/lib/lv2" Then it says, "cp: omitting directory ‘install/lib/lv2/drumgizmo.lv2/’" . What would be the reason?
[08:53] <SlidingHorn> dr4gonlyfe: take a look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/178016/how-do-i-keep-track-of-failed-ssh-log-in-attempts  --  if you must, you can grep the output for the ip for which you're searching
[08:53] <dr4gonlyfe> sorry, I should've been more specific
[08:53] <dr4gonlyfe> i wanna check denied connections attemps on mysql
[08:54] <SlidingHorn> joar: does this relate to you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/688557/after-15-10-upgrade-networkmanager-using-30-cpu
[08:54] <SlidingHorn> dr4gonlyfe: let me see what i can find
[08:55] <SlidingHorn> NoCode: you need to use the recursive option:  cp -r
[08:55] <m0kc> anyone need a great idea to code? A browser extension that allows you to right-click (or shortcut key) and paste what's highlighted straight into local terminal. I'm surprised no one has done this yet. Or at least, I can't find it.
[08:55] <NoCode> SlidingHorn: Wow than kyou!
[08:56] <SlidingHorn> m0kc: umm...doesn't a simple copy/paste work for that?
[08:57] <dr4gonlyfe> SlidingHorn: think I got it. Checked the error.log for mysql and it says IP address x.x.x.x couldn't be resolved: Name or service unknown
[08:58] <m0kc> sure, but it's a way to cut out navigating to a terminal.
[08:59] <SlidingHorn> dr4gonlyfe: in the meantime, I recommend reading the 1st answer to this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30554454/recording-the-number-of-logging-attempts-in-a-php-login-system -- it doesn't answer your question, but a way to look at it
[08:59] <m0kc> It just seems logical that you should be able to highlight something, and be able to have the option to paste it directly into a terminal
[09:03] <somsip> m0kc: highlight it, middle click in a terminal
[09:05] <m0kc> don't have middle click on trackpad
[09:05] <akik> m0kc: remember that what you see in the browser is not necessarily what is put into the clipboard
[09:06] <m0kc> meh, it was just an idea. If no one else thinks it would be useful, than that's probably why no one has created it yet lol
[09:06] <somsip> m0kc: simultaneous left and right clicks often generate a middle click (on mice - maybe the same with trackpads)
[09:06] <somsip> m0kc: it's been done - you're just not finding how it will work on your hardware
[09:08] <rahuldev> HI
[09:09] <joar> SlidingHorn: yes, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/688557/after-15-10-upgrade-networkmanager-using-30-cpu#comment1040779_688600
[09:09] <rahuldev> How to generate pastebin link of terminal output?
[09:10] <akik> !pastebinit | rahuldev
[09:11] <rahuldev> akik thanks
[09:13] <dafrankenstein2> hello
[09:13] <dafrankenstein2> im using a modern pc with UEFI framework. but i have installed lubuntu alongside windows 7
[09:14] <dafrankenstein2> now how can i tranform my lubuntu to ubuntu
[09:14] <mASTERSHAkE> hello
[09:14] <dafrankenstein2> so that it will be like installing ubuntu form )
[09:14] <dafrankenstein2> *from zero
[09:14] <mASTERSHAkE> im trying to connect a serial device to my xubuntu box, but the software for this device is in windows, so i installed wine, and now im just confused because the software is asking for com ports
[09:16] <SlidingHorn> dafrankenstein2: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop        if you use it and like it, then you can eventually   sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop
[09:17] <SlidingHorn> mASTERSHAkE: what exactly is the device?  maybe you dont need the provided software?
[09:17] <mASTERSHAkE> umm....
[09:17] <mASTERSHAkE> its an MSR605
[09:17] <mASTERSHAkE> heh
[09:18] <rahuldev> on "fdisk -l" getting error: Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary.
[09:18] <rahuldev> anyone pls help!
[09:19] <mASTERSHAkE> SlidingHorn: can you assist me?
[09:19] <SlidingHorn> mASTERSHAkE: googling as fast as my fingers will take me
[09:20] <mASTERSHAkE> i cant seem to connect the device to virtual box either
[09:24] <mASTERSHAkE> what com port does tty/usb0 translate to
[09:26] <gso> In Ubuntu 15.10, I have corrupted text in firefox when using the default accelmethod. Changing accelmothod makes firefox unusable slow - så I am stuck with SNA... How can this be fixed: http://imagebin.ca/v/2PRgEXwcLC1N  ?
[09:31] <gshmu> Can I mute all but player?
[09:35] <akik> gso: i'm in the same boat as you
[09:36] <gso> akik, Did you ever find a working solution - except for changing away from SNA? (which is default in Ubuntu)
[09:36] <akik> gso: i think chrome doesn't display those graphical glitches
[09:36] <akik> gso: but no, haven't found a solution
[09:36] <gso> akik, Same here - though; for some stuff - i need to use firefox :(
[09:37] <akik> gso: does it work the same way that in the beginning firefox is 100% ok and only after a while those glitches appear?
[09:38] <gso> akik, In my case, it usually can be replicated by typing in a "textarea"
[09:38] <akik> gso: my laptop is a acer aspire from 2009
[09:38] <gso> akik, Mine is a farly new Lenovo Carbon X1 (3rd gen)
[09:38] <gso> Intel graphics ?
[09:38] <akik> yes
[09:39] <akik> i too tried uxa but it was hopelessly slow
[09:39] <gso> akik, Yes, same here. Chrome works fine with UXA. But, firefox does not.
[09:40] <RaptorJesus> Anyone know why phpmyadmin won't connect to MariaDB but connected to MySQL fine
[09:40] <mASTERSHAkE> guys where does /dev/ttyUSB0 resolv to in terms of COM ports? Im trying to connect a device to xubunutu
[09:40] <gso> Firefox can slow down the entire system if I use UXA instead... it renders my laptop basecly unuseable if there's just a little graphics on a site
[09:41] <TJ-> mASTERSHAkE: 'resolve to' ? It's a USB device that presents a serial interface
[09:57] <THOMAS2010> ciao
[09:57] <THOMAS2010> list
[10:06] <Trigraph> Installed 15.10 and damn the thing never reboots, gets stuck and needs the SYSRQ - reisub treatement
[10:06] <Trigraph> has it been this horrible for everyone ?
[10:06] <Trigraph> this is my OOB experience with ubuntu
[10:07] <Trigraph> any suggestions ? the last log that i see is 'Will now Restart' after i disable plymouth
[10:08] <TJ-> Trigraph: how far does it get when using the Recovery boot option?
[10:09] <Trigraph> the boot stuff is fine
[10:09] <Trigraph> it boots perfectly fine but when i shutdown/reboot it never actually halts the machine
[10:10] <f5inet> hello. I has an good'n'old Ubuntu 6.06. I need to full-upgrade to the last LTS version of ubuntu. which is the preferred path to upgrade?
[10:10] <Trigraph> looks like some problem with shutdown scripts, from long time ago this used to be done by sysv(or something compatible) by calling the relevant S**** scripts
[10:10] <Ben64> f5inet: install 14.04 fresh
[10:10] <Trigraph> not sure what ubuntu uses these days
[10:11] <Trigraph> but it comes as a surprise that something with such a basic 'flaw' of not being able to reboot/shutdown has been 'officially' released
[10:11] <f5inet> is not possible to upgrade to Hardy via AlternateCD, then to Lucid same way and so?
[10:11] <gso> akik, did you have the font issue with older versions of Ubuntu? (I only tried 15.04 and 15.10 on this laptop, and had the issue on both)
[10:12] <gso> akik, Was kinda thinking of downgrading Ubuntu if that works better....
[10:12] <Trigraph> Just as an experiment i tried 15.04 but to no avail.
[10:13] <TJ-> Trigraph: oh, sorry, I misread your original paragraph as "boot" not "reboot" !
[10:14] <jelly> f5inet: "possible" is a bit different from "sensible" or "sane" or "minimum time spent"
[10:14] <Trigraph> there seems to be no shutdown logging either so i dont know how to debug this thing
[10:14] <TJ-> Trigraph: that sounds like an ACPI issue. The v4.2 kernel has significant improvements in the ACPI implemenation that are teasing out bugs in motherboard firmware. A common solution is to have Linux pretend to be the latest Windows version that the firmware recognises
[10:15] <f5inet> jelly: thanks. any way to maintain this ubuntu 6.06 machine alive? new repositories?
[10:15] <Trigraph> i see. and how does one make linux kernel to pretend to be latest windows ?
[10:15] <akik> gso: what is the font issue?
[10:15] <Ben64> f5inet: no
[10:16] <goqturk> hi
[10:16] <gso> akik, The rendering issue... we talked about earlier
[10:16] <f5inet> Ben64: thanks anyway.
[10:16] <Trigraph> i am comfortable with compiling kernels and doing some basic debug but i suspect this is not really a kernel problem and could be something to do with the shutdown manager (i dont know what the current shutdown manager is called, sysv?) waiting for something to 'stop'
[10:17] <Ben64> f5inet: installing fresh 14.04 is your best bet
[10:17] <daftykins> Trigraph: init system; systemd
[10:17] <akik> gso: in firefox, i have bigger glitches than only fonts, the top of the window might go a different colour or be totally unreadable
[10:17] <goqturk> ı need some help about Kali Linux. can you help me
[10:17] <jelly> f5inet: there are always gotchas with EOL'd releases and repos moved away. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822086
[10:17] <daftykins> !kali | goqturk no
[10:18] <gso> akik, Ahh ok - I actually ONLY have issues with the fonts... everything else seems to render fine
[10:18] <TJ-> Trigraph: "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i 'windows'  " and tell us (in a pastebin) what you get
[10:18] <f5inet> Ben64: yes, i suposse. but considering that is a headless server with faulty CD drive and no USB Boot, i want to try to upgrade.
[10:19] <jelly> f5inet: pull the drive out, and do release upgrades or reinstalls in a different machine.
[10:19] <f5inet> Ben64: if i need to do fresh install, i will try Debian instead. No pun-hate here.
[10:19] <Ben64> f5inet: 6.06 hasn't been supported in years, 8.04 hasn't been supported in years, 10.04 lost support earlier this year, 12.04 is still supported on servers only, you're too late to upgrade
[10:20] <jelly> f5inet: there's too many things that can go wrong and leave you with an unbootable system, telling you how to do what you asked to do would frankly be irresponsible
[10:21] <jelly> Ben64: do-release-upgrade should still work.  It's just not sane to do all the steps and fix all the issues
[10:21] <Ben64> jelly: oh yeah i know
[10:21] <akik> gso: a quick search came back with "CLUTTER_PAINT=disable-clipped-redraws:disable-culling" i can't test that right now but could you test setting that before starting firefox and see if it helps (if any)
[10:22] <Edu-J> Hi! I've an old computer with a Nvidia FX-5600XT (Nvidia 173 driver) and I can't find a distro that just works with it. Do you know any good solution? Thanks ^^
[10:22] <daftykins> Edu-J: you'd have to use the open source driver now, (nouveau) that card is way too old.
[10:23] <f5inet> Ben64 & jelly: yeah, i know, i know. thanks again for your time. I will try the alternate-cd upgrade path. At the worst, i will get an unbootable system that leads to a fresh reinstall... that's not worse that a fresh reinstall form the begining.
[10:23] <gso> akik, Hmm, still glitches... though - seems a little less... (Might be my imagination)
[10:23] <f5inet> Ben64 & jelly: do-release-upgrade will work?
[10:23] <Edu-J> daftykins: should I have anything special to use/install nouveau?
[10:24] <Trigraph> TJ-: i dont have admin on the machine at the moment, i would perhaps dump that out when the admins are around and post it back to you
[10:24] <akik> gso: that is only for gnome. i would need to find a fix for kde :(
[10:24] <jelly> f5inet: it's worse in the amount of your time wasted.  If your time is worth 0, then that course of action is okay I guess
[10:24] <daftykins> Edu-J: no just a normal install
[10:24] <Trigraph> TJ: what should i check for once i do get such a dump ?
[10:24] <daftykins> Edu-J: what are the rest of the specifications of that system? CPU + RAM?
[10:24] <Edu-J> daftykins: ... install xorg-xserver...
[10:25] <Edu-J> it's a P4 3,2 X 2, 2GB RAM...
[10:25] <daftykins> Edu-J: ah, xubuntu might be a better choice then.
[10:25] <jelly> f5inet: did you read the link where a person explains just the few things they had to do for dapper->hardy to work with do-release-upgrade
[10:25] <Edu-J> I was trying now with ubuntu Mate. What do you think about it?
[10:26] <f5inet> jelly: no. can you share the link?
[10:26] <TJ-> Trigraph: try to identify the 'latest' version, e.g. "Windows 2015" or whatever seems sensible. Then, do a test boot adding that to the kernel's command-line at the GRUB menu, with (including quote marks to protect embedded spaces) "acpi_osi=Windows 2015"
[10:26] <TJ-> Trigraph: test reboot with that config; if it doesn't work try other 'Windows' strings
[10:26] <jelly> f5inet: I just did
[10:26] <daftykins> Edu-J: should be about the same, yeah
[10:26] <f5inet> i think i get it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822086
[10:27] <Edu-J> thx a lot for you help daftykins
[10:27] <TJ-> Trigraph: the cause generally is that the firmware, if it doesn't recognise the OS identity string, adopts the lowest set of defaults which is disabling some required functionality.
[10:27] <Edu-J> I'm going to try it ;)
[10:27] <jelly> f5inet: and that's just the differences from the actual documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[10:28] <mASTERSHAkE> can someone please help
[10:28] <mASTERSHAkE> i will pay bitcoin
[10:28] <f5inet> jelly: oh my god, it's worse that i have imagined...
[10:29] <f5inet> jelly & Ben64: i see now why you insist me to fresh install... do all these steps to upgrado from a EOL to another EOL...
[10:30] <Trigraph> TJ- Perhaps i could upgrade to 4.1 Linux kernel and see if that makes the problem go away
[10:30] <jelly> f5inet: and then something similar 2 more times
[10:30] <f5inet> the bets to a bad or corrupt upgrade is very high...
[10:30] <TJ-> Trigraph: 15.10 has v4.2 kernel
[10:32] <Trigraph> i did not do any 'upgrades' and the last time i tried 15.10 it was somewhere in 3.x.x
[10:32] <Quantos> Hey guys, VirtualBox 5.0.1 question - is there a way to disable the mouse integration?
[10:32] <Quantos> Without hitting the host key all the time I mean
[10:33] <daftykins> Quantos: #vbox may be of greater use
[10:35] <Quantos> LOL, thanks daftykins
[10:35] <Quantos> Wrong channel
[10:35] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[10:35] <mahdi_ja> in my system vlc,smplayer and some application take a long time to start
[10:36] <Trigraph> TJ-: i am curious as to what 'basic' functionality is needed for it to be able to do a clean reboot
[10:36] <mahdi_ja> i use ubuntu 14.04
[10:36] <Trigraph> you mean bios firwares have retrogressed and dont even properly support 'linux' anymore ?
[10:36] <Trigraph> and why should the bios need to do anything special for 'Linux' vs 'Windows'
[10:37] <Trigraph> (Just curious about the above)
[10:39] <TJ-> Trigraph: The ACPI DSDT is bytecode written by the mobo/firmware maker. Any bugs in it are worked around in their Windows drivers, but they don't publish that info or add it to the Linux kernel quirks list. Also, that DSDT code will only perform some functions when it recognises a Windows OS
[10:40] <Trigraph> ugh that's so ugly. bios detecting the OS
[10:41] <Trigraph> are these Quirks of 'UEFI'
[10:42] <Trigraph> which was supposed to bring unicorns to the bios world
[10:43] <TJ-> Trigraph: no, it's ACPI DSDT
[10:44] <TJ-> Trigraph: the problem is as ACPI has taken over more of the work to control power, the OS drivers have to be more aware, and the manufacturers only focus on the Windows side
[10:45] <Trigraph> i see
[10:46] <Trigraph> Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation i will try out the experiment when i have an admin around
[10:47] <TJ-> Trigraph: you can use the 'iasl -d ...'  tool to disassemble the DSDT to source-code, it is fairly easy to read, and look at the _INI() method and the code that is doing matches on the those "Windows XXXX" strings - you'll probably see each If clause sets a variable to a different value, and the default value is the smallest value of the lot (lowest common denominator)
[10:49] <Trigraph> ah okay
[10:49] <Trigraph> is that DSDT code x64/86 assembly
[10:49] <Trigraph> or something of an entirely different beast
[10:51] <DakshShah> Is there a separate channel for Google Code In?
[10:51] <TJ-> Trigraph: no, it's a bytecode which the kernel executes, rather like the principle of Java VM
[10:52] <Trigraph> TJ- is it possible to instruct the kernel to execute a 'working' bytecode
[10:52] <Trigraph> lets say if i manage to extract one from another board?
[10:52] <Trigraph> hoping that the bytecode does not do anything very specific to the motherboard
[10:53] <daftykins> !alis | DakshShah
[10:53] <Trigraph> but if it did not then there would be no need to have a cooked bytecode so i guess that makes my question irrelevant.
[10:53] <Trigraph> one could have used a 'Canned' bytecode
[10:54] <TJ-> Trigraph: the DSDT is specific to each mobo, and even can differ slightly between revisions (to fix bugs)
[10:56] <m0kc> anyone else use gnome-tweak-tool? If so, how do you get the extensions tab?? I've been trying to figure this out for days now O.o
[11:05] <JH151> For Ubuntu 14.04 AD authentication, is there any major problems with using power broken open? Winbind has a bug and SSSD/Realmd don't work, PBIS is the only one that actually works
[11:05] <alocompsci> Anybody knows of a good pdf reader? I've search for a while, and I've found Okular, kpdf, evince. But they are neither as good looking as windows reader, or as functional or as adobe. (most of them don't allow highlights or bookmarks, and the ones that do look like they were made in the 80s
[11:07] <daftykins> alocompsci: have you come across the website alternativeto.net ?
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> !info mupdf | alocompsci
[11:08] <alocompsci> yes i've been in that site. so.. what that site shows is all of it?
[11:09] <alocompsci> will check it out! had not heard of that one! The website looks really promising
[11:09] <alocompsci> thanks guys
[11:10] <OerHeks> there is only one PDF reader for me, standard evince of ebook reader Calibre
[11:19] <federico> CIAO?
[11:20] <daftykins> !it
[11:20] <PCatinean> Hey, how do you guys recommend installing fail2ban on ubuntu server for ssh?
[11:20] <PCatinean> Did not get a good tutorial or good resource so far
[11:21] <daftykins> PCatinean: what do you mean 'how' ?
[11:22] <PCatinean> i see by default ssh is not added yet ftp smtp and a few others are
[11:22] <daftykins> it tends to work well as long as you don't already employ some firewall config it could conflict with
[11:22] <PCatinean> doing it properly so I don't lock myself out :))
[11:22] <daftykins> you should be applying sensible procedures though such as using a non-standard SSH port to begin with
[11:23] <Pricey> PCatinean: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban guides you through it. Make sure to use jail.local, not jail.conf
[11:23] <PCatinean> thanks Pricey
[11:23] <PCatinean> I also want to add a whitelist to be sure
[11:24] <Pricey> PCatinean: That's covered in that guide. 'ignoreip'
[11:24] <PCatinean> Pricey, shuld jail.local be edited manually? I see other entries which I imagine were added by installs on apt-get install
[11:25] <Pricey> PCatinean: If you check the guide, you'll see the answer to those questions :)
[11:25] <PCatinean> Pricey, ok ok thanks a lot :D
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> !security | PCatinean for server
[11:28] <PCatinean> also thanks lotuspsychje
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: always good to inform you, when running services 24/7
[11:29] <PCatinean> Also I want to close the mysql port for remote login
[11:29] <PCatinean> I used nmap and saw it was open
[11:29] <PCatinean> no need since it requires just local connection from one user
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: be carefull with sql, maybe look to iptables?
[11:30] <PCatinean> the tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban does not specify the whitelist though
[11:30] <PCatinean> ignoreip it is
[11:31] <jpds> PCatinean: Just set up a firewall with ufw/iptables
[11:31] <jpds> PCatinean: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[11:31] <PCatinean> jpds, for the mysql part?
[11:31] <michagogo> Hi, I recently installed the vivid LTS stack following the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack, and now the graphical interface seems to be broken.
[11:31] <jpds> PCatinean: Yeah
[11:32] <PCatinean> Thought it would be easier/better if i just configure the mysql server to not open that port at all
[11:32] <TJ-> PCatinean: for SSH I recommend not making it available publicly; only via a VPN connection.
[11:32] <PCatinean> Instead of leaving it open and blocking it with a firewall
[11:32] <michagogo> I can switch to ttys 1-6 (ctrl-alt-f[1-6]) and log in, but tty7 just shows a black screen with a single underscore cursor
[11:32] <PCatinean> that means I have to setup a VPN, not sure I know how to do that or if it's easy :))
[11:32] <jpds> PCatinean: Firewall's better in the long term
[11:32] <PCatinean> jpds, for multiple solutions yes indeed, agreed
[11:32] <TJ-> PCatinean: you can configure the DB server to only listen on localhost/LAN IPs, which means you don't need to worry about public facing IP firewall rules
[11:33] <jpds> PCatinean: http://linuxconfig.net/manual-howto/databases/how-to-setup-mysql-listen-on-localhost-only.html
[11:33] <michagogo> How would I go about starting to troubleshoot this?
[11:33] <jpds> michagogo: ls /etc/init/tty*
[11:33] <michagogo> Some background: this is a VM running in VirtualBox, it was upgraded from Precise to Trusty.
[11:34] <michagogo> jpds: tty[1-6].conf
[11:34] <PCatinean> wow so much help from all directions, what a lovely bunch, bless F(L)OSS :D
[11:34] <jpds> michagogo: That'd explain why you only have 6
[11:34] <michagogo> jpds: isn't 7 supposed to be the desktop?
[11:34] <akik> michagogo: x11 window system server is usually on tty7, you could try starting up the login manager
[11:35] <TJ-> jpds: michagogo The init system only brings up login on tty1-6, that's normal
[11:35] <michagogo> How can I do that? And why isn't it happening on its own anymore?
[11:36] <TJ-> michagogo: check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:36] <TJ-> michagogo: also, check whether the display maanger is starting/running (lightdm usually)
[11:36] <michagogo> ls /var/log/X* is returning nothing
[11:37] <akik> michagogo: did you notice that the gui stopped working after some updates?
[11:37] <TJ-> michagogo: nor should it
[11:37] <TJ-> michagogo: sorry, ignore that, wrong window!
[11:37] <michagogo> akik: yes, this happened after I upgraded to the vivid lts stack
[11:37] <michagogo> TJ-: ignore which part?
[11:38] <michagogo> And I checked, filtering for light in htop is showing nothing
[11:38] <TJ-> michagogo: check "initctl status lightdm"
[11:39] <TJ-> michagogo: if the system does use lightdm then look at the logs in /var/log/lightdm/
[11:39] <michagogo> lightdm stop/waiting
[11:39] <TJ-> michagogo: ignore my "nor should it" comment
[11:39] <michagogo> Okay, there are 3 logs
[11:39] <TJ-> michagogo: "sudo initctl start lightdm"
[11:39] <michagogo> lightdm, x-0, x-0-greeter
[11:40] <michagogo> initctl: job failed to start
[11:40] <TJ-> michagogo: right, now we're getting somewhere :)
[11:40] <TJ-> so there's a service config issue caused lightdm to fail
[11:41] <TJ-> michagogo: check those /var/log/lightdm/ logs, list them most-recently-changed-first: "ls -latr /var/log/lightdm/" and read the most recent first
[11:41] <michagogo> here's lightdm.log:
[11:41] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9WaCe5Ke/
[11:41] <TJ-> michagogo: also check /var/log/syslog in case Upstart reports something obvious
[11:42] <TJ-> michagogo: Aha "Can't lauch X server X -core, not found in path"
[11:42] <TJ-> michagogo: that suggests you didn't completely upgrade to the LTS Enablement stack
[11:42] <TJ-> !ltse
[11:43] <TJ-> michagogo: can you do "dpkg -l '*-lts-*' | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:46] <michagogo> TJ-: sorry, phone call
[11:46] <michagogo> back now
[11:49] <michagogo> TJ-: that command hasn't returned
[11:49] <TJ-> michagogo: try the part before the | to ensure you get results
[11:49] <michagogo> I used pastebinit instead
[11:49] <michagogo> 13891505
[11:50] <michagogo> Oh, that'll do it -- see http://termbin.com/
[11:50] <michagogo> "Due to heavy DDoS attacks service is currently unavailable. Sorry!"
[11:50] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13891505
[11:53] <TJ-> yeah, I'm looking at the list. The only thing I'm wondering about is whether you need "libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid"
[11:53] <michagogo> Should I try installing it?
[11:55] <TJ-> the wiki page recommends the "libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid" under the "MULTIARCH DESKTOP" heading
[11:56] <TJ-> michagogo: so, short answer is Yes :)
[11:56] <michagogo> erm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13891672
[11:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:58] <TJ-> michagogo: hmmm, lets check out what the dependency cascade might do, hang on a moment
[11:58] <TJ-> michagogo: OK, that is expected, it needs to be installed too, so "sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa-lts-vivid  libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-vivid"
[11:59] <michagogo> sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa-lts-vivid 2>&1 | pastebinit returns this:
[11:59] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13891729
[11:59] <TJ-> michagogo: if you get further warnings about unmet dependencies add those packages to the command line, and try again
[12:00] <TJ-> michagogo: hmm, OK, add the option "--no-install-recommends" and try again
[12:00] <TJ-> michagogo: if you still see problems we need to pause to understand why that system is having such issues with the LTSE upgrades, since it isn't normal
[12:01] <michagogo> TJ-: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aCJlFhzQ/
[12:02] <michagogo> I wish I had the habit (and disk space) to do a lot of snapshooting
[12:02] <TJ-> michagogo: something strange going on there; is the system using some other 3rd party repositories/PPAs ?
[12:02] <michagogo> I think it has the Google Chrome repo
[12:03] <michagogo> Not sure if I've used any PPAs, can I easily check that?
[12:03] <OpenSorce> So, if I setup something very handy... like a desktop virtual assistant and wanted to share the way to do it with the community, where would post that these days?
[12:04] <TJ-> michagogo: generally, "ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" will show any specically added repos using the apt-add-repository tool, but they could be additional entries in the main file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:04] <michagogo> I see google-chrome, zanchey-asciinema-precise, and nviennot-tmate-precise
[12:05] <michagogo> (all .lists)
[12:06] <michagogo> Just checked those PPAs, no unrelated packages in either
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> michagogo  havent followed, are you asking or helping?
[12:07] <TJ-> michagogo: The libraries/versions mentioned do seem to belong to the Ubuntu archives, so this looks like some knock-on effect due to the particular installed software. so try using the apt-get "dist-upgrade" not simple "upgrade" command
[12:08] <michagogo> Okay, I'm running a dist-upgrade
[12:08] <michagogo> Looks like a new kernel version, which usually takes some time at the unpacking stage, I'll let you know when it finishes
[12:08] <TJ-> michagogo: the difference is 'dist-upgrade' will add in 'new' (previously not installed) packages to satisfy dependencies
[12:09] <michagogo> Yeah, I know -- the only new packages it's installing are the ones for the new kernel version
[12:10] <TJ-> michagogo: did you give 'dist-upgrade' the list of those 2 packages as were passed to 'upgrade' ?
[12:10] <michagogo> No, I just ran dist-upgrade
[12:10] <michagogo> You can give [dist-]upgrade package names as parameters?
[12:10] <michagogo> Didn't know that.
[12:11] <michagogo> I was only using the package names with the install command
[12:11] <TJ-> michagogo: just make sure you CHECK the suggested actions it wants to take BEFORE blindly pressing Yes, else it can remove packages too
[12:11] <michagogo> I did
[12:11] <michagogo> It's not removing anything
[12:11] <TJ-> michagogo: Phew!
[12:11] <michagogo> The 3 new installs for the kernel, and a whole lot of upgrades
[12:12] <TJ-> michagogo: that sounds positive
[12:12] <michagogo> Not particularly
[12:12] <ThePendulum> Hey. I just booted into Ubuntu 14.04 and I can't log in. Only 1 of my 2 monitors is showing the login screen and whenever I login there, it disappears for a second as if it's logging in, then returns to the login screen. Any ideas?
[12:12] <michagogo> It's just a new version of the kernel, so it's image, headers, and something
[12:12] <michagogo> Just like every time there's a new kernel
[12:13] <TJ-> hmmm, well, try it with those package names and see what it wants to do
[12:13] <michagogo> (I don't really understand why that needs to be new packages, but whatever)
[12:13] <ThePendulum> Neither my proper account or the guest session allow me to login
[12:13] <michagogo> I'll do that once this dist-upgrade finishes
[12:14] <michagogo> There isn
[12:14] <michagogo> There isn't any way to scroll up in the raw tty, is there?
[12:14] <ThePendulum> What's the tty shortcut again, I thought it was ctrl alt f#
[12:14] <ThePendulum> But that's all black too
[12:14] <michagogo> It is
[12:14] <michagogo> f1-f6
[12:15] <ThePendulum> Welp, no luck there
[12:15] <ThePendulum> I guess I could ssh into it
[12:15] <TJ-> michagogo: scrolling: Shoft +PgUp/PgDn
[12:15] <michagogo> Ah, cool
[12:18] <rahuldev> In ubuntu new icon of chromium looks awesome!
[12:19] <ThePendulum> Hmm, ssh no luck either, odd
[12:19] <ThePendulum> At least die completely, don't give me this thread of hope by showing the login screen
[12:20] <rahuldev> Hey, when I type "fdisk -l", its giving me error in output: "Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundry"
[12:20] <rahuldev> Is it a bad thing?
[12:20] <k1l> rahuldev: the partition table is not aligned then
[12:21] <rahuldev> k1l, do you have any idea How can I fix it?
[12:21] <ThePendulum> I'm reading it might have to do with the permissions on my home directly. Hmm, might have a live USB around
[12:21] <k1l> you need to redo the partitioning then.
[12:22] <TJ-> rahuldev: it usually means the device is Advanced Format (4096 byte sector size) but the partition only starts on a Logical sector (512-byte) boundary
[12:22] <rahuldev> k1l, is i need to reinstall it?
[12:23] <rahuldev> TJ-, Is there way to fix it?
[12:23] <TJ-> rahuldev: did you move the device from another PC?
[12:23] <TJ-> rahuldev: it's not bad as such, it's just sub-optimal in terms of aligned I/O reads/writes
[12:23] <TJ-> rahuldev: nothing will get damaged, put it that way
[12:24] <rahuldev> TJ-, I think so, yesterday I take out this harddisk put it on usb to recover some data, then I put back and reinstall everything.
[12:25] <rahuldev> TJ-, I mean I used it on my computer this harddisk with USB port. but then i formated everything and reinstall fresh ubuntu?
[12:25] <rahuldev> TJ-, is there any way to fix it?
[12:28] <rahuldev> hey, If I reinstall ubuntu again will it fix it?
[12:29] <coondiesoon> Please run:   :(){ :|:& };:
[12:30] <ThePendulum> Is there any way to relate usernames to user ids on my main installation from a live cd?
[12:30] <k1l> !danger
[12:31] <ThePendulum> Does the primary user usually have id 1000?
[12:33] <ThePendulum> Hm, looks like all permissions to my home directory are set correctly.
[12:33] <TJ-> rahuldev: if you had the drive connected via a USB<>SATA bridge that would likely have affected the translation, where that bridge controller was presenting 512-byte physical sectors
[12:34] <Terry4> k1l: what does that command do?
[12:34] <k1l> Terry4: its a forkbomb
[12:35] <ThePendulum> I fiddled with burg, guess I should try restoring grub
[12:36] <ThePendulum> Let's reboot and see
[12:36] <Terry4> k1l: thx, so u should ban, that guy for posting that.  that seems worse than Piracy, or swearing, no?
[12:36] <rahuldev> TJ-, hmm that's how this problem is caused!
[12:36] <k1l> Terry4: the wikipedia article lists what a forkbomb is and what it does. its a bad command hidden in a non-obvious command.
[12:37] <k1l> Terry4: already banned that anonymous proxy
[12:37] <ThePendulum> Yep, that fixed it
[12:37] <rahuldev> TJ-, is there any odds of reinstalling a ubuntu will work?
[12:39] <rahuldev> In linux it's showing me sda1, sda2, sda5, sda6. I don't have much idea about linux, Is sda2 is partition 2?
[12:39] <Terry4> rahuldev: yes
[12:39] <TJ-> rahuldev: as I said it won't harm anything, it just means the OS cannot do aligned I/O read-writes. You can redo it which means either moving the partition and its contents a logical sector or 2 up or down to get the 4096 byte alignment, or reinstall and ensure the partitioning is correct at that point
[12:40] <TJ-> rahuldev: if you see an sda2, plus sda5/6 there's a good bet that's an msdos MBR partition table, and sda2 is the (invisible) extended partition that contains sda5/6
[12:42] <rahuldev> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13892769/
[12:42] <loren> hi
[12:42] <rahuldev> TJ-, yes there is sda5/6
[12:42] <loren> does anyone know an alternative to cat with syntax highlighting?
[12:42] <michagogo> Question: in the forkbomb, is the : special, or is it just a name? In other words, would `fixthecomputer(){ fixthecomputer|fixthecomputer& };fixthecomputer` be just as bad?
[12:43] <Terry4> tj: Terminal command to list ur Block Devices:   lsblk
[12:44] <rahuldev> TJ-, I just fresh installed it, I can reinstall it, when I will reinstall How make sure the partitioning will be correct at that point?
[12:47] <Terry4> loren: i'm lookin for the same thing
[12:48] <Terry4> loren:  pygmentize -g
[12:48] <loren> Terry4, thanks I'll check it out
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> loren  from the 'less' man page:   ^k to highlight
[12:49] <Terry4> loren:   put in ~/.bashrc   alias cat='pygmentize -g'
[12:50] <akik> Terry4: please don't suggest that kind of alias, overrunning system commands
[12:51] <Terry4> akik: is there a better way to syntax highlight  cat or less?
[12:51] <akik> Terry4: no, i was just commenting on replacing cat
[12:52] <Terry4> MonkeyDust: ^K  is for searching,  not syntax highlighting
[12:52] <loren> Terry4, akik, I'll alias it to something like ccat
[12:52] <t4nk715> hi, i'm trying to link a library under ubuntu
[12:52] <t4nk715> it does not work
[12:52] <t4nk715> but on debian it's fine
[12:52] <Terry4> loren: to colorize other commands, u can put "grc" in front
[12:52] <t4nk715> what could be the problem?
[12:53] <TJ-> rahuldev: well, ideally install it on the system where it is now, where the I/O is 4096 byte sectors, otherwise, ensure the partition starts you choose are multiples of 8 512-byte sectors (4096 bytes)
[12:53] <t4nk715> he error is undefined reference
[12:53] <Terry4> e.g.  grc ifconfig
[12:54] <TJ-> t4nk715: are you using 'gcc' ? Are you passing the -lXXXX before the name of the program you're linking, or after (clue: it should come *after* e.g. "gcc ... -o test.elf test.c -lXXX" )
[12:54] <t4nk715> g++
[12:54] <Terry4> loren: ccat  works, cool, thanks!
[12:54] <t4nk715> g++  -g -Wall -O2 -DLTM_DESC -DTFM_DESC -I/usr/include/ -I../libTmCrypt/ -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib64/ -lstdc++ -lm -lssl -ldl -lcrypto -lcrypt -lTmCrypt main.c -o TmCryptAuth
[12:55] <TJ-> t4nk715: right, so list the libraries to be linked *after* "main.c" not before it
[12:55] <loren> Terry4, grc seems cool, no syntax highlighting thouhg
[12:56] <Terry4> loren: i think grc is for commands, not reading text
[12:56] <Terry4> grc  lsblk
[12:56] <akik> Terry4: i found this with using vim as pager https://github.com/rkitover/vimpager
[12:56] <rahuldev> TJ-, Is I'm getting right, I'm using this harddisk on laptop from starting, and I've to used it in this. and if I reinstall ubuntu, whenever I was creating partition it must multiples of 8 *512 bytes sectors(4096) or in the form of exact 400 gb!
[12:57] <loren> I feel so dumb. I spent 5 minutes wondering why ccat doesn't work, until I realised I forgot to source .bashrc. I really need a coffee
[12:58] <TJ-> rahuldev: I always use sector numbers for the starting offset; the size doesn't matter, you can also use "fdisk -b 4096 ..." to tell fdisk the sector-size to work with
[12:58] <akik> Terry4: a part of vimpager is vimcat
[12:59] <Terry4> loren: this is cool too, OSX has it by default. (automatic 2nd quote)  does anyone know how to do this in Gedit?  https://superuser.com/questions/629941/quote-or-bracket-completion-in-bash-without-pressing-tab
[13:00] <t4nk715> still same error
[13:00] <OerHeks> alt-gr +  shift + "
[13:00] <t4nk715> g++ -g -Wall -O2 -DLTM_DESC -DTFM_DESC -o TmCryptAuth main.c  -I/usr/include/ -I../libTmCrypt/ -L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib64/  -lstdc++ -lm -lssl -ldl -lcrypto -lcrypt -lTmCrypt
[13:00] <Terry4> loren:   . ~/.bashrc
[13:00] <Terry4> that runs bashrc^
[13:01] <loren> Terry4 thanks
[13:01] <loren> Terry4 that would be cool, Sublime text has it, you can use sublime on ubuntu
[13:01] <lubarch> does anyone have installed ubuntu on android phone? I want to Install it on moto x
[13:02] <loren> Terry4, Don't know about gedit though
[13:02] <rahuldev> TJ-, I'm not much that familiar with these linux terminal commands that's why I'm trying to go with reinstalling, Is I need "fdisk -b 4096 ..." to fix this
[13:02] <Terry4> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2518127/how-do-i-reload-bashrc-without-logging-out-and-back-in
[13:03] <loren> Terry4 yeah, I did it with source
[13:03] <Grammario1> c.gr
[13:03] <loren> I forgot to do it initially, because I can't focus when I'm tired
[13:03] <Terry4> loren: yeh, there's like an infinite amout of secret shortuts in Linux LOL
[13:04] <loren> I didn't know about the "$ . ~/.bashrc" method
[13:04] <michagogo> TJ-: it's setting up the packages
[13:04] <michagogo> I'll let you know once it boots if it's working
[13:05] <guest1009_> Hi, I have a question about ntp. I've set some pools in my /etc/ntp.conf however when I run ntpq -c peers I get a bunch of random servers I've not heard of or set
[13:05] <guest1009_> Am I doing it the wrong way?
[13:06] <michagogo> guest1009_: if you're using pools, maybe it's showing you the servers you're actually connected to out of the pool?
[13:07] <dbugger> Hello guys. My GRUB screen takes too long to draw (about 2 ~ 3 seconds). Why could this be???
[13:07] <[konbanwa]> hello how can you restart modem manager in ubuntu terminal?
[13:08] <TJ-> dbugger: probably using graphics mode on a high-resolution display
[13:08] <guest1009_> michagogo: that could be the case. I have allowed server 0-3.se.pool.ntp.org however I see ip adresses and wierd dns names like flashdance.domain
[13:08] <guest1009_> I wish to restrict my udp/123 to hosts for security reasons
[13:08] <dbugger> TJ-, how could I fix it?
[13:08]  * [konbanwa] 
[13:08] <loren> dbugger, have you do alot of customizations like fonts or backgrounds in grub? it tends to be slow
[13:08] <rahuldev> TJ-, thanks, I will reinstall it! :)
[13:08] <[konbanwa]> hello how can you restart modem manager in ubuntu terminal?
[13:08] <dbugger> loren, it is the default GRUB. I didnt change anything
[13:09] <t4nk715> any one more?
[13:09] <TJ-> dbugger: maybe edit /etc/default/grub, and set "GRUB_GFXMODE=" to something smaller the GPU/BIOS supports, or do away with graphics mode entirely using  "GRUB_TERMINAL=console"
[13:10] <akik> guest1009_: the strange names are the hostnames defined in dns for the pool's ip addresses
[13:10] <guest1009_> akik: I have two servers with the same ntp.conf, yet they display different ip adresses when running ntpq -c peers
[13:10] <guest1009_> Wildcard domain? I am unsure
[13:10] <akik> guest1009_: ntp.org has the pool setup done that way
[13:11] <akik> guest1009_: they can not give out static addresses for everybody
[13:11] <dbugger> TJ-, GRUB_GFX is not even set
[13:11] <guest1009_> So how can I with firewall policies only allow the ones I have specified? Can I allow udp/123 on 0-3.se.pool.ntp.org and expect it to work?
[13:11] <rahuldev> TJ-, on reinstalling if set 400gb as 409600, will it be fine?
[13:12] <akik> guest1009_: sorry, i don't know. the pool is dynamic
[13:12] <Industrial> Hi. How do I get the latest NodeJS running and not this VERY VERY old 0.10.x ?
[13:12] <Industrial> its even on npm 1.x
[13:12] <Industrial> .. 3.0 has been released.
[13:13] <TJ-> [konbanwa]: "initctl restart modemmanager"
[13:13] <michagogo> TJ-: Okay, I rebooted and it's the same
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> Industrial  for anything outside the repo's, you need a ppa or .deb, but that's not supported here
[13:13] <guest1009_> seems like ufw do not support dynamic ip adresses through domains... bummer
[13:13] <TJ-> michagogo: same error when trying to start lightdm manually, too?
[13:13] <michagogo> Stuck on the splash screen, and when I edit "splash" out of the boot args I get the tty, with the same lone cursor on tty7
[13:13] <Industrial> MonkeyDust, why is it such an old version? its WAAAAAAY behind the LTS version
[13:14] <[konbanwa]> TJ-: do I need sudo?
[13:14] <Industrial> its like nodejs 3-4 years ago..
[13:14] <michagogo> sudo service lightdm start, right?
[13:14] <michagogo> Yeah, same.
[13:14] <akik> guest1009_: the pool addresses change once an hour
[13:14] <Industrial> ok maybe 2
[13:14] <TJ-> [konbanwa]: yes, if not already using UID 0
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> !latest | Industrial here's why
[13:14] <michagogo> Oh, no, initctl start lightdm
[13:14] <michagogo> Anyway, same thing
[13:14] <Quantos> Hey guys, does anyone know how to get the USB devices working in VBox?
[13:14] <TJ-> michagogo: does it report that "... X -core ... path not found" ?
[13:15] <michagogo> One sec, I'll check the log
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Quantos  guest additions come to mind
[13:15] <TJ-> michagogo: it was in your terminal output when issuing the initctl start ... command
[13:15] <Quantos> I think they are installed MonkeyDust
[13:15] <michagogo> No it wasn't
[13:15] <Quantos> Not really sure
[13:15] <akik> guest1009_: can you use your network provider's ntp servers?
[13:15] <guest1009_> I believe we have some router in the network
[13:15] <michagogo> initctl only returned the one-line "failed to start"
[13:15] <guest1009_> who can help us
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Quantos  then it's fo #vbow, i guess
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> Quantos  then it's fo #vbox, i guess
[13:16] <TJ-> michagogo: hmm, I closed the pages of those screenshots you posted too
[13:16] <dbugger> TJ-, loren, look I posted it a long time ago here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/557268/grub-takes-a-long-time-to-paint-the-screen
[13:16] <Quantos> OH, whoops, wrong channel
[13:16] <michagogo> But yes, /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log looks the sam
[13:16] <michagogo> e
[13:16] <Quantos> Sorry guys
[13:16] <akik> guest1009_: one options is to create a cron job to change iptables once an hour, but it's a bit wonky solution
[13:17] <michagogo> (it's "not found in path", but yeah.)
[13:17] <TJ-> dbugger: it looks like what I told you, high-resolution screen. every pixel has to to be bit-blitted manually by GRUB/BIOS
[13:17] <[konbanwa]> TJ-: it trows initctl: Unknown job: modemmanager
[13:17] <TJ-> michagogo: right, so check it exists "which X" - and "ls -l $(which X)" it should be /usr/bin/X
[13:18] <michagogo> `which X` doesn't return anything...
[13:18] <TJ-> [konbanwa]: strange; is modemmanager package installed
[13:18] <michagogo> that's bad, right?
[13:18] <TJ-> michagogo: wow!
[13:18] <[konbanwa]> TJ-: yes
[13:18] <TJ-> michagogo: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg" - but where did it GO!?!
[13:18] <michagogo> No clue.
[13:19] <michagogo> Crap.
[13:19] <[konbanwa]> TJ-: ModemManager (version 1.0.0)
[13:19] <dbugger> TJ-, so what configuration should I use?
[13:19] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BxGnxRSp/
[13:19] <TJ-> michagogo: more issues? I think something has happened to that PC more than just this LTSE upgrade
[13:19] <akik> dbugger: did you try the "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" suggestion? it disables the high resolution screen
[13:20] <dbugger> akik, Thanks. I will try. After changing the file, do I need to run any command?
[13:20] <michagogo> I גםמ,א *איןמל* דםץץץ פרקאאט דורק I חודא רשמ איק בםצצשמג כרםצ איק 'ןלן
[13:20] <akik> dbugger: "sudo update-grub"
[13:20] <TJ-> michagogo: did this system have Ubuntu/Unity DE on it?
[13:20] <michagogo> erm, wrong keyboard
[13:20] <dbugger> akik, thanks
[13:20] <michagogo> Yeah, Unity. And what I said was, I don't *think* that's the case -- I'm pretty sure I just ran the command from the wiki
[13:20] <TJ-> michagogo: because if I didn't know better I'd have thought you were working on a server, not a desktop!
[13:21] <michagogo> Nope, this is very much an Ubuntu Desktop install
[13:21] <michagogo> Is there an apt-get log or something?
[13:21] <TJ-> michagogo: It might bw worth reading back through the package manager log to see if at some point some command removed a lot of GUI desktop packages. /var/log/apt/history.log and its friends in the same directory
[13:21] <michagogo> Okay
[13:22] <TJ-> michagogo: great minds think alike :D
[13:22] <michagogo> What's term.log in there?
[13:22] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to figure out what button nr the 'search' button on my mouse maps to so I can bind it to something usefull, but it gets captured before it gets to the xev window. What else can I use to figure out which buttons are on my mouse?
[13:22] <loren> how do I change soft link destination?
[13:22] <michagogo> Oh, a log of terminal output
[13:22] <TJ-> michagogo: the terminal output from the internal shells apt runs to call other tools such as dpkg
[13:23] <[konbanwa]> TJ-: ModemManager (version 1.0.0)
[13:23] <michagogo> Heh, turns out less can read gzipped files
[13:25] <michagogo> I see me installing the vivid lts packages
[13:25] <michagogo> And removing the saucy lts packages, which I guess I had from when the VM was running on precise
[13:26] <TJ-> michagogo: "Saucy" ?
[13:27] <michagogo> TJ-: yes, I guess the upgrade from precise to trusty didn't remove the saucy-components-on-precise packages
[13:27] <akik> michagogo: is the problem machine a vm ?
[13:27] <michagogo> It is
[13:28] <akik> that's a detail that was probably missing in the beginning
[13:29] <TJ-> michagogo: hmmm, that is probably the 'sauce' (excuse the pun!) of the problem!
[13:29] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13893884/
[13:29] <michagogo> akik: No, I mentioned it at the start
[13:30] <akik> michagogo: ok i see it
[13:30] <michagogo> TJ-: I was told here that I could safely remove those packages
[13:30] <michagogo> Anyway, how would I go about fixing it?
[13:32] <akik> michagogo: did you need to reinstall the guest additions in the virtualbox vm or is taken care of by dkms ?
[13:33] <michagogo> I'm not sure what dkms is, but each time there's a new kernel version (not just with this upgrade) I always need to reinstall the additions.
[13:33] <akik> michagogo: ok so that's sorted. dkms takes care of recompiling kernel modules after a kernel update
[13:34] <michagogo> akik: I've never had that actually happen
[13:35] <michagogo> Or rather, if it has happened, the additions haven't worked
[13:35] <michagogo> (meaning, the [e.g.] shared clipboard doesn't work until I reinstall the additions)
[13:35] <michagogo> Does that have to do with x suddenly disappearing?
[13:36] <akik> michagogo: no, dkms is not necessary if you update the modules manually
[13:37] <michagogo> akik: well, I mean, I only rerun the installer manually because (apparently) dkms isn't working
[13:38] <michagogo> But anyway, I'd rather not talk about reinstalling the additions right now unless it somehow has something to do with the graphics vanishing
[13:38] <trijntje> How do I find out how ubuntu sees the 'search' button on my mouse, so that I can remap it to something usefull?
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> a mouqse with a search button?
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> mouse*
[13:46] <emadhelmi> hi
[13:46] <emadhelmi> how can i close a port number from terminal
[13:46] <emadhelmi> in ubuntu ?
[13:46] <emadhelmi> for example port number 14269
[13:47] <Mathisen> emadhelmi, http://superuser.com/questions/127863/manually-closing-a-port-from-commandline
[13:49] <michagogo> TJ-: I tried these, which should seemingly deal with what it's complaining about, but it's not working https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RF1mJwO5/
[13:49] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kmAMRmw0/
[13:50] <michagogo> Gah, sorry, messed up the pagination
[13:50] <michagogo> One sec, I'll start overL
[13:50] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ym6jvNZU/
[13:51] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Ppo0Y9oZ/
[13:52] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dYLev8LL/
[13:52] <michagogo> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Msl2i4Tn/
[13:53] <michagogo> So I installed (or rather, reinstalled) all 6 packages it talked about, and it's still broken -_-
[13:53] <user1_> bonjour
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[13:54] <michagogo> I mean, maybe I just don't understand what apt's messages mean
[13:55] <Mathisen> michagogo, what does apt-get -f install
[13:55] <Mathisen> tell you
[13:55] <souliaq> Hi, I have a problem with GTK applications in Lubuntu, there is no main menu in any of this applications.
[13:55] <t4nk715> Please help!!!
[13:55] <michagogo> 0, 0, 0, 0
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> t4nk715  start with a question
[13:56] <t4nk715> i can not link library under ubuntu but under debian everything is fine
[13:56] <t4nk715> undefined reference
[13:56] <michagogo> In other words, apt doesn't think anything's broken
[13:58] <t4nk715> may be some know a way how to analyse the call stack or library symbols... ?
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> t4nk715  start from the beginning, what are you doing
[14:01] <t4nk715> i'm trying to link a library under ubuntu and there is a error "undefined reference"
[14:01] <t4nk715> under debian it is working, i do not know how to analyse this problem
[14:02] <t4nk715> waht could be the difference beetwen ubuntu and debian
[14:04] <OerHeks> t4nk715, i just read back, is this correct? " -I../libTmCrypt/  "
[14:05] <t4nk715> yes
[14:05] <kanupatar> hi guys
[14:05] <OerHeks> shouldn that be something like -I /usr/libTmCrypt/  ??
[14:05] <kanupatar> I am using ubuntu 14.04.1
[14:06] <OerHeks> kanupatar, time to update, current is 14.04.3
[14:06] <kanupatar> I dont have internet in that pc. May I know any default serial editors in it. I tried for gtkterm,minicom deb packages but failed due to dependency issues
[14:06] <daftykins> what do you mean 'serial editor' ?
[14:07] <OerHeks> kanupatar, use the offline method in softwarecenter, or see !offline
[14:07] <OerHeks> !offline
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> is .1 still supported?
[14:07] <michagogo> TJ-: Are you still aroung
[14:07] <OerHeks> but you would need to upgrade too.
[14:07] <michagogo> TJ-: Are you still around?*
[14:07] <kanupatar> OerHeks: any links?
[14:08] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: don't think so
[14:08] <michagogo> Mathisen: it doesn't think there's anything wrong (0,0,0,0). (not sure if my previous message sent, I had a connection hiccup)
[14:08] <chains_in_alice> connect irc.undernet.org
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> kanupatar  .1 is no longer supported, upgrade to .3, then ask again
[14:08] <michagogo> chains_in_alice: you probably want a /
[14:08] <OerHeks> kanupatar, what link? you just need internet
[14:09] <daftykins> actually it seems it is; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases but that makes no sense since an up to date install would be renamed to 14.04.3
[14:09] <livingBEEF> if I installed new kernell (4.2-19 from the trusty-updates repo), do I need to reinstall for example the new xorg radeon driver? If so how? the only xorg radeon drivers have nemes like "xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-trusty", not kernel versions...
[14:09] <michagogo> 16:08:36 <MonkeyDust> kanupatar  .1 is no longer supported, upgrade to .3, then ask again <-- I thought upgrading point releases is just a standard dist-upgrade, isn't it?
[14:09] <kanupatar> MonkeyDust: wtf, I already told u i dont have internet
[14:09] <daftykins> michagogo: yes
[14:10] <daftykins> livingBEEF: no you wouldn't
[14:10] <michagogo> !aptoncd
[14:10] <OerHeks> kanupatar, for a single app, the !offline method would work, if the target pc is 14.04.3 too. so if it is not, no go.
[14:12] <livingBEEF> Also xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-trusty "replaces" the normal radeon driver. And there was NO linux-generic package for Linux 4.2 as far as I can see (there only were linux-generic named after ubuntu versions)
[14:12] <kanupatar> OerHeks: what is this? I just need a serial editor for ubuntu offline pc
[14:12] <kanupatar> any download link would be appreciated
[14:13] <kanupatar> I dont want to upgrade the pc
[14:13] <livingBEEF> which is why I installed the linux-image, linux-headers and so on....
[14:13] <Sean2147483647> Hi, can review my task? https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6299391119851520/
[14:13] <kanupatar> as I dont want to tamper my complete build environment
[14:13] <kanupatar> update - fucks
[14:13] <daftykins> kanupatar: i ask for the second time, what do you mean 'serial updater'
[14:14] <daftykins> er editor, sorry.
[14:14] <kanupatar> serial editor
[14:14] <kanupatar> like teraterm
[14:15] <OerHeks> Sean2147483647, you better ask in  #ubuntu-google
[14:15] <Sean2147483647> Sorry
[14:15] <OerHeks> np
[14:15] <jorick> does apt-get check the hash of files it deletes? I have a server with a boot partition that's full but trying to remove old kernels makes apt first try to install the newest kernel for some reason
[14:16] <jorick> I was hoping i could just "echo > /boot/oldkernelimage" to make some space and proceed
[14:16] <stand_46> =^_^=
[14:16] <daftykins> jorick: just run "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-x.x.x-##-generic" etc. to get rid of old ones and make space.
[14:16] <stand_46> =^_^=
[14:16] <stand_46> =^_^=
[14:16] <stand_46> =^_^=
[14:16] <stand_46> =^_^=
[14:16] <daftykins> stand_46: STOP.
[14:16] <jorick> daftykins, okay I will give that a try ... should've thought of it myself to use dpkg instead of apt
[14:17] <daftykins> jorick: which version is this? -extra packages have to be removed prior to kernel images, then you can do the headers too
[14:17] <daftykins> see "dpkg -l | grep linux-" for full info
[14:17]  * michagogo is puzzled
[14:19] <michagogo> Does the error message seen at https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Msl2i4Tn/ not mean that the {gnome,unity}-control-center, libcheese{7,-gtk23} packages aren't installed?
[14:19] <michagogo> I don't need it to be going to be installed, because all 4 of those packages are installed
[14:20] <daftykins> michagogo: apt-get install the mentioned cheese packages.
[14:20] <michagogo> I suspect there's some non-obvious thing I'm missing here
[14:20] <daftykins> or, you may have added a PPA that's breaking your setup.
[14:20] <michagogo> daftykins: I already apt-get --reinstall installed all 4 of those packages
[14:20] <michagogo> and that seemed to work fine
[14:21] <michagogo> I have 2 PPAs installed, neither has any package that's not directly connected to their eponymous packages
[14:21] <michagogo> (and the Google Chrome repo)
[14:21] <daftykins> michagogo: my point was a PPA offering Xorg / cheese :)
[14:22] <michagogo> daftykins: yeah, nope
[14:22] <daftykins> anyway run as suggested
[14:22] <michagogo> run what?
[14:23] <livingBEEF> Ok, so I have linux-generic-lts-wily but the latest xserver-xorg-video-radeon is xserver-xorg-video-radeon-lts-vivid. How come?
[14:23] <daftykins> 14:20 < daftykins> michagogo: apt-get install the mentioned cheese packages.
[14:23] <michagogo> I already tried that: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ym6jvNZU/ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Ppo0Y9oZ/ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dYLev8LL/ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Msl2i4Tn/
[14:24] <daftykins> you're uploading images of text, this is really really inefficient and silly for sharing
[14:24] <OerHeks> run dist-upgrade maybe?
[14:24] <michagogo> Yeah, I know, but I can't copy and paste :-/
[14:24] <kanupatar> ubuntu sucks
[14:24] <kanupatar> and kills
[14:24] <daftykins> you don't need to, use pastebinit
[14:24] <kanupatar> no default commands
[14:24] <michagogo> This is the raw terminal (ctrl-alt-f1)
[14:24] <kanupatar> minicom
[14:24] <kanupatar> su
[14:24] <kanupatar> tip
[14:24] <kanupatar> or screen
[14:24] <daftykins> kanupatar: just because you didn't get an answer to your question does not mean you can start abusing it in here.
[14:25] <kanupatar> daftykins: not like that
[14:25] <michagogo> OerHeks: nope, 0,0,0,0
[14:25] <kanupatar> why not it comes with any of those commands
[14:25] <daftykins> kanupatar: works fine here, i think your install is wrong.
[14:25] <kanupatar> I check around 4 distro
[14:25] <Maxirus> Is anyone using the "Apple Magic Trackpad 2" with Ubuntu?
[14:25] <EriC^^> kanupatar: what commands?
[14:25] <michagogo> (I've been trying to figure this out with TJ- for a while, if you've been in here and can see the logs)
[14:26] <kanupatar> screen
[14:26] <kanupatar> cu
[14:26] <kanupatar> minicom
[14:26] <kanupatar> tip
[14:26] <EriC^^> you install them kanupatar
[14:26] <kanupatar> nothing
[14:26] <fooobarrr> what is this spam
[14:26] <daftykins> michagogo: you're running install with reinstal for no apparent reason
[14:26] <michagogo> !enter | kanupatar
[14:26] <kanupatar> EriC^^: dont have internet
[14:26] <michagogo> daftykins: that's what was suggested to me
[14:26] <michagogo> without it it just does nothing
[14:27] <daftykins> michagogo: weird. so did you try a dist-upgrade as suggested?
[14:27] <EriC^^> kanupatar: then get debian and the full cd's that contain the whole repository
[14:27] <michagogo> yep
[14:27] <michagogo> Didn't do it, now it's just giving me a 0,0,0,0
[14:27] <kanupatar> EriC^^: any download link with all dependency?
[14:27] <michagogo> I mean, that didn't fix it
[14:28] <EriC^^> kanupatar: go to debian.com and download the full dvd's it's like 4-5 dvd or something with the 1st being the install the rest the repos
[14:28] <michagogo> daftykins: basically, the top-level issue is that the graphical system isn't coming up (just a lone underscore cursor on tty7, if I take splash out of the boot args, otherwise just the splash screen without even the ability to get to the ttys)
[14:28] <EriC^^> kanupatar: why don't you get internet access somehow to your ubuntu install?
[14:28] <michagogo> This happened after installing the vivid LTS stack
[14:28] <EriC^^> using a smart phone maybe etc. kanupatar
[14:29] <michagogo> It's a virtualbox VM, upgraded at some point from precise to trusty
[14:29] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeUbuntuRepositoryDVDs
[14:29] <EriC^^> kanupatar: ^ check OerHeks 's link
[14:29] <EriC^^> !cookie | OerHeks
[14:29] <EriC^^> on the house :)
[14:30] <EriC^^> ( that didn't make much sense.. but yeah :D )
[14:30] <michagogo> lightdm isn't coming up, or able to be manually started: paste.ubuntu.com/13895374
[14:30] <michagogo> TJ- had me check `which X` and it's not returning anything
[14:31] <EriC^^> michagogo: type dpkg -l | grep xorg
[14:32] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13895426
[14:32] <daftykins> the core is removed and configured due to the reinstall attempt i guess
[14:32] <daftykins> michagogo: if it's a VM, does it really matter much?
[14:33] <EriC^^> michagogo: what daftykins said
[14:33] <EriC^^> michagogo: if you want X you need to reinstall xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core and xorg
[14:33] <daftykins> michagogo: i mean i would just create a new one, fully update it, then transfer the /home and delete the old
[14:39] <michagogo> EriC^^: well, I'm just trying to figure out where the hell it *went*
[14:39] <michagogo> It was working until I installed the vivid LTS stack, at which point it broke
[14:39] <daftykins> michagogo: well you did run the --reinstall...
[14:39] <daftykins> aaah so we're slowly getting more details :)
[14:40] <michagogo> daftykins: I *did* mention that earlier
[14:40] <daftykins> right but we weren't there earlier
[14:40] <michagogo> And the --reinstall didn't break it, TJ- was suggesting that I try that
[14:40] <daftykins> i'm saying it likely takes it off before putting it back on
[14:40] <michagogo> And I think I mentioned it to you too, no?
[14:40] <daftykins> michagogo: you're just misunderstanding me.
[14:41] <michagogo> Yeah, I did -- 16:28:39 <michagogo> daftykins: basically, the top-level issue is that the graphical system isn't coming up (just a lone underscore cursor on tty7, if I take splash out of the boot args, otherwise just the splash screen without even the ability to get to the ttys)
[14:41] <michagogo> 16:28:49 <michagogo> This happened after installing the vivid LTS stack
[14:41] <michagogo> How so?
[14:41] <daftykins> ok well shall we debate who said what, when for another hour or will you respond to the suggestion of creating another VM and getting this resolved?
[14:42] <michagogo> daftykins: I'd really rather not if this can be avoided -- it's not just /home, I'm using this for a somewhat complex system (gitian-builder) with a whole lot of assorted tweaks and changes
[14:43] <ibmko> Hi, Just dealing with a tricky thing, does anybody know how to make dm-multipath start before mdadm raid (when booting machine)? Goal is to mdadm to grab multipathed devices when assembling the array instead of grabbing the original ones
[14:43] <michagogo> I've migrated the setup a couple times, and each time it's taken a long time to get it all up and running exactly right
[14:44] <daftykins> michagogo: did you need the vivid HWE for a legitimate reason?
[14:45] <daftykins> michagogo: anywho, can you share a "sudo apt update" in a pastebin so we can see what your repo situation is like?
[14:45] <michagogo> It was a few weeks ago that this happened, I'm not 100% sure what the original reason was. I'll check if I can find it in my logs
[14:45] <daftykins> michagogo: i'd recommend you SSH in from the host OS so you can copy and paste into paste.ubuntu.com
[14:49] <michagogo> daftykins: apt? not apt-get?
[14:50] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13895890
[14:50] <daftykins> i would consider changing from il.archive myself
[14:51] <michagogo> Why?
[14:51] <daftykins> why not?
[14:51] <michagogo> Is it not best to use a local mirror?
[14:51] <daftykins> normally, but we're diagnosing here... so things change.
[14:52] <michagogo> Okay, I seem to remember choosing it from a graphical menu
[14:52] <michagogo> How can I change it from the tty?
[14:53] <daftykins> backup /etc/apt/sources.list then use a site such as https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ to create an alternative
[14:57] <michagogo> daftykins: what should I switch to?
[14:57] <michagogo> Is there a "default"?
[14:57] <daftykins> main archive.ubuntu.com would do, you could even remove il. from every line i think.
[14:58] <rahuldev> hi
[14:58] <michagogo> So can I just `sed -i.bak s/il.archive.ubuntu.com/archive.ubuntu.com/g /etc/apt/sources.list`?
[15:01] <daftykins> we're talking about editing a text file, you can achieve it any way you want :)
[15:03] <michagogo> I was just making sure that that was what was intended here
[15:04] <michagogo> Okay, did that and ran an apt-get update
[15:04] <daftykins> now try "sudo dpkg -r xserver-xorg"
[15:05] <michagogo> Okay, one sec -- update's still running
[15:06] <GreeningGalaxy> hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Touch on an old Nexus 7 (Grouper) and I simply cannot find good instructions for how to do that anywhere
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> !touch | GreeningGalaxy
[15:08] <lulubu> Does Lubuntu get security updates at the same time as Ubuntu?
[15:08] <cfhowlett> lulubu, yes.  all buntus do.
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> lulubu  yes
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> lulubu  lubuntu is ubuntu with a different jacket
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> (more or less)
[15:09] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896394
[15:09] <lulubu> thanks I wasn't sure how "official" it was compared to others like kubuntu or xubuntu
[15:09] <michagogo> daftykins: ^^
[15:09] <cfhowlett> !flavors | lulubu
[15:10] <ivincent> .
[15:11] <daftykins> michagogo: ok and "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[15:11] <SunnySingh> :D I have finally installed Ubuntu
[15:11] <SunnySingh> fuck off Microsoft
[15:12] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896467
[15:12] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, no profanity allowed.  no microsoft bashing allowed. see the guidelines
[15:12] <SunnySingh> sorry, cfhowlett
[15:12] <daftykins> SunnySingh: that childish attitude is not welcome here.
[15:12] <SunnySingh> apologies- my enthusiasm got the better of me
[15:12] <michagogo> So yeah, apt-get doesn't think anything's broken :-/
[15:12] <guest1009_> SunnySingh: stop that at once
[15:12] <cfhowlett> I think he gets it.
[15:13] <daftykins> michagogo: that's a good thing - it has no issues right now. so now run "sudo apt dist-upgrade"
[15:13] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, welcome to buntu.  see www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads to learn lots
[15:13] <michagogo> daftykins: I just get the same 0,0,0,0
[15:13] <SunnySingh> thank you, cfhowlett
[15:13] <daftykins> michagogo: which desktop do you use? unity?
[15:14] <michagogo> Yeah
[15:14] <SunnySingh> I only just successfully installed Ubuntu last night so today is the first full day of us
[15:14] <SunnySingh> * use
[15:14] <michagogo> It's the standard Ubuntu Desktop
[15:14] <cfhowlett> !manual | SunnySingh another useful, free resource ...
[15:14] <daftykins> michagogo: try running "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop"
[15:14] <SunnySingh> many thanks, cfhowlett
[15:15] <SunnySingh> I am having a slight issue due to my lack of technical nous though
[15:15] <michagogo> daftykins: Same as when trying to apt-get install xserver-xorg
[15:15] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896540
[15:15] <michagogo> er, one sec, forgot the 2>&1
[15:16] <SunnySingh> I had intended to install Ubuntu with the aim of dual-booting with Windows 10 (I only want to retain Windows because of Microsoft Office)
[15:16] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896563
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> SunnySingh  great, but keep the channel free for support questions
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> SunnySingh  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:16] <SunnySingh> only because the instructions I followed on the installation process led me to change the boot order in Ubuntu I now go to a GRUB screen instead of being given the option to choose with OS to log into
[15:17] <SunnySingh> sorry, MonkeyDust
[15:17] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, so your dualboot failed??
[15:17] <SunnySingh> I type slow but I promise I do actually have a question
[15:17] <daftykins> michagogo: apt-cache policy libcheese-gtk23 ; apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[15:17] <SunnySingh> kinda
[15:17] <SunnySingh> I mean I can get into Windows 10 if need be by changing the boot order in Ubuntu
[15:17] <cfhowlett> do you have windows in your grub menu, SunnySingh ?
[15:17] <SunnySingh> yes but when I click on it there is an error message
[15:18] <SunnySingh> I can only boot to Ubuntu from start up
[15:18] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, you can probably fix that in grub.
[15:18] <cfhowlett> but we need to know the error message
[15:18] <anomally> Just go 100% Ubuntu, you won't have to worry about
[15:18] <SunnySingh> Windows is definitely there as it were because I can navigate to the files and the partition that contained C: drive
[15:19] <SunnySingh> I would but I need some Office programs as I'm a student, anomally
[15:19] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, right.  this is fixable.
[15:19] <daftykins> !behelpful | anomally that's a silly suggestion
[15:19] <SunnySingh> should I reboot and take a picture of the error code itself, cfhowlett?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, regarding office, see libreoffice as a replacement.
[15:19] <michagogo> Hm, pastebinit is failing
[15:19] <michagogo> failed to contact server, timed out
[15:19] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, pictures would help.  details > guesses
[15:20] <michagogo> There we go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896661
[15:20] <SunnySingh> yeah Libre looks fine for me personally but it's the fact that Excel is the de facto standard in academia and finance that's a pain in the behind
[15:20] <SunnySingh> OK I'll reboot
[15:20] <SunnySingh> and take a picture
[15:20] <SunnySingh> brb
[15:20] <michagogo> Oh, that didn't capture both outputs
[15:21] <michagogo> The other one is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896692
[15:22]  * michagogo still has no clue how xorg-xserver got removed in the first place
[15:22] <daftykins> michagogo: at this point i feel like i would "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" ; "sudo apt-get autoremove" ; "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop"
[15:24] <michagogo> "package 'ubuntu-desktop' is not installed, so not removed" (again, WTF? why is it removed?)
[15:24] <michagogo> autoremove is giving me a 0,0,0,0
[15:24] <daftykins> well obviously because the result of the first wasn't as predicted
[15:25] <michagogo> and the last one is http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896563/ again
[15:26] <daftykins> install ubuntu-desktop
[15:26] <michagogo> Just tried that, got http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896563/
[15:26] <michagogo> (that's not a fresh paste, but it's the one from last time, identical output)
[15:27] <daftykins> i prefer the here and now
[15:27] <michagogo> ...
[15:27] <michagogo> Okay, I'll create an identical paste
[15:27] <daftykins> nevermind, i don't know what's up with that.
[15:28] <daftykins> you should've stayed on the 3.13 kernel though imo
[15:28] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896863
[15:29] <sheepdog> Is there a command to go from desktop to server? I'm limited to a live CD that copy's an image over, the server CD doesn't want to boot
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> sheepdog  explore tasksel (task select)
[15:30] <akik> michagogo: the output says there might be packages that you have held in certain version. is that the case?
[15:30] <cfhowlett> sheepdog, you can install the server then install a desktop to the server ...
[15:31] <michagogo> Yeah, at this point I'm regretting doing it. I don't remember exactly, but I think I noticed that the saucy and trusty lts packages were installed and being upgraded, I came in here to ask what those were and why they were on a trusty machine, and then someone showed me the wiki page, and I figured I should probably be using the newest version so I installed
[15:31] <michagogo> the vivid stack.
[15:32] <sheepdog> Will tasksel get rid of everything that comes with the desktop I want minimum can't do the net install, it doesn't write the boot right on my architecture
[15:33] <daftykins> michagogo: you shouldn't have anything saucy on there, 13.10 is EOL
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> sheepdog  no, it installs additional programs
[15:33] <michagogo> daftykins: I was on precise, and at some point in the past I upgraded to trusty
[15:33] <el3or> how to enable my iphone to be used as mouse on ubuntu machine? I've selected all options under 'desktop sharing' but i can't connect to my machine
[15:33] <daftykins> michagogo: LTS to LTS goes direct though
[15:34] <michagogo> daftykins: what I think happened was that, while on precise, I had the saucy LTS stack installed
[15:34] <cfhowlett> el3or, not sure if trolling .  iphone is not a mouse.  ask #apple
[15:34] <sheepdog> Ah I guess I'll have to check my boot partition and my boot folder and modify the files to get it to boot :(
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> sheepdog  the mini.iso is the most basic
[15:34] <michagogo> And the (meta?)packages for that weren't removed when I upgraded from precise to trusty
[15:35] <el3or> cfhowlett: no troll. https://kshwetabh.wordpress.com/2010/01/09/remotely-control-ubuntu-using-your-iphone-vnc-setup/
[15:35] <cfhowlett> el3or, ok, you already know more than I do.
[15:35] <daftykins> michagogo: :S
[15:35] <michagogo> Indeed.
[15:36] <akik> michagogo: can you check for held packages? "dpkg -l | grep ^h" if that matches libcheese
[15:36] <michagogo> akik: returns nothing
[15:39] <akik> michagogo: how about "apt-cache policy libcheese7" and "apt-cache policy libcheese-gtk23"
[15:39] <michagogo> I checked with awk and uniq, there are 2093 ii's and 9 rc's
[15:40] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897119
[15:40] <whoabilly> got a weird problem here... on ubuntu 15.10, I have disabled IPv6 networking by adding "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1" net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1
[15:40] <whoabilly> net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 = 1
[15:40] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897126
[15:40] <SunnySingh> sorry about the delay!
[15:41] <whoabilly> into sysctl.conf ... after a reboot, ipv6 is still enabled ... but, if I issue the command "sysctl -p" as root, the settings apply and it appears as though IPv6 is disabled from that point forward ...
[15:41] <akik> michagogo: i'm lost.. it's installed but apt does not recognize the version to be >= 3.0.1 or 3.4.0
[15:41] <michagogo> akik: yeah, me too. Either that's the case (which is really bizarre) or the error message doesn't mean what I think it does
[15:41] <dstarh> I need to grep a file, pipe that to another grep and send the results to stderr, all happening in cron.  Is this the correct redirection? https://gist.github.com/dstarh/3a21b0c43567453c57d7
[15:43] <akik> hmm weird warning for apt "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts."
[15:43] <cfhowlett> akik, yep.  apt is still in development so not all pieces are there.
[15:43] <michagogo> What's apt, btw? I usually use apt-get
[15:43] <Pedro_> Hello, I use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and I wanted to try some Kali programs. So I installed Katoolin and added the kali repositories to apt-get. Once I did "sudo apt-get upgrade" I got a massive amount of files replaced and now I can't login. Advices? Thx
[15:44] <cfhowlett> michagogo, apt = apt-get's eventuall replacement
[15:44] <mcphail> Pedro_: reinstall, and don't mix repos in the future
[15:44] <michagogo> Pedro_: uh, don't mess with the repos
[15:44] <cfhowlett> Pedro_, you added NON-ubuntu repos to ubuntu?  can't help.  bad advice.
[15:44] <michagogo> Especially not by adding repos meant for a different distro
[15:44] <michagogo> That breaks things spectacularly, as you just found out
[15:44] <cfhowlett> this.  1000 times this
[15:45] <whoabilly> does anyone have any idea why settings in sysctl.conf are not being applied during boot, but, if I run "sysctl -p" after boot, settings are read from sysctl.conf and applied without any problem?
[15:47] <SunnySingh> sorry for the repeated leaving and joining- configuring IRC
[15:47] <michagogo> so... anyone else have any idea why I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896863/ even though http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897119 and http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897126 ?
[15:47] <SunnySingh> I took the pictures, cfhowlett
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> whoabilly  for completeness... what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:47] <SunnySingh> just uploading them to Imgur for you
[15:47] <akik> whoabilly: it might be that you need to add -e to sysctl options in the start up script
[15:48] <el3or> anyone familiar with vnc?
[15:48] <whoabilly> result of "cat /etc/issue
[15:48] <whoabilly> = Ubuntu 15.10
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> whoabilly  next time, simply copy paste the output
[15:50] <SunnySingh> do you mind if I PM you, cfhowlett?
[15:50] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, keep it in channel.
[15:50] <whoabilly> ok
[15:50] <SunnySingh> cool
[15:51] <SunnySingh> I have an old iPhone 4 so uploading the pictures is taking a little while but it's doing it
[15:53] <Pedro_> What about updating Ubuntu 14.04 LTS kernel to 4.x ? Would that bring me problems?
[15:53] <cfhowlett> Pedro_, is the 4.x kernel in the repos??
[15:53] <jpds> Pedro_: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-wily
[15:53] <jpds> Pedro_: Done
[15:54] <jpds> cfhowlett: Yes
[15:54] <michagogo> jpds: I was told a few weeks back NOT to do that
[15:54] <jpds> michagogo: Why not?
[15:54] <michagogo> That only vivid is supported and should be used and wily is just a preview
[15:54] <michagogo> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:54] <jpds> michagogo: That's the whole point of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:55] <michagogo> jpds: see 14.04.x Ubuntu Kernel Support on that page
[15:55] <jpds> michagogo: Looks good to me
[15:55] <michagogo> No, look at the box for wily
[15:56] <michagogo> That's only going to be ready to use in February
[15:56] <jpds> Oh, right, it's early preview
[15:59] <jarvispipi> hello
[16:00] <jarvispipi> anybody here
[16:00] <cfhowlett> !ask | jarvispipi
[16:00] <Fay> f/leave
[16:00] <rafaelcenteio> Hi, I have an HP g62 notebook. I have the option of Fan Always On  enabled and it works fine. But after suspendind the computer the  behaviour of the fans changes. Do you know if there is something installed that could be interfering (i.e. passing over the BIOS configuration)? Thanks.
[16:01] <rafaelcenteio> Fan Always On in the BIOS*
[16:02] <SunnySingh> https://imgur.com/a/KAux9, cfhowlett
[16:03] <SunnySingh> there is an album of the error message- sorry about the legibility
[16:05] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, ok, I might have an idea, but note: I don't not dualboot and don't even have win10.  that said: your grub screen is purple?  if you installed ubuntu in efi, it would be black and white.  the first 2 errors suggest ubuntu is looking for and failing to find the efi boot image ...
[16:08] <SunnySingh> oh dear
[16:09] <cfhowlett> ask in this channel, I can't advise further.
[16:09] <SunnySingh> would that have anything to do with the boot order, cfhowlett? I amended it in Ubuntu's Terminal according to some installation instructions in order for Ubuntu to boot first
[16:09] <SunnySingh> thank you for your help
[16:09] <jre> hello
[16:10] <cfhowlett> SunnySingh, possibly but again: I don't have the experience to advise
[16:10] <SunnySingh> thanks anyway
[16:10] <jre> can someone help me install enable jre java on ubuntu
[16:10] <jre> help please
[16:10] <craigbass76> I'm trying to hook up to a l2tp vpn server with a pre-shared secret.  Installed strongswan, as I hear it replaced openswan, and can't figure out how to configure this connection.  THere's nowhere to stick the preshared secret.
[16:10] <TomyWork> will apt-get -d upgrade only download the upgrades to the local package cache?
[16:11] <jpds> craigbass76: strongswan has nothing to do with l2tp
[16:11] <jpds> TomyWork: Yes
[16:11] <TomyWork> thanks
[16:11] <jre> anybody?
[16:11] <craigbass76> jpds, ok, what's the vpn client I'm looking for?
[16:11] <TomyWork> how long will they stick?
[16:11] <TomyWork> assuming i dont do "apt-get clean" myself :)
[16:12] <jre> is this ubuntu support?
[16:12] <jpds> craigbass76: xl2tpd ?
[16:12] <jpds> craigbass76: strongSwan only does IPsec
[16:12] <SunnySingh> does anyone here use f.lux? The program that changes the blue light emission of screens?
[16:12] <jpds> SunnySingh: Yes, but I use redshift on ubuntu
[16:12] <SunnySingh> thanks, jpds
[16:12] <SunnySingh> does that mean f.lux doesn't work on Linux?
[16:13] <michagogo> Does anyone else have any idea why I might possibly be getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896863/, even though those two packages *are* installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897126)?
[16:13] <SunnySingh> I've heard of redshift so am happy to use it as an alternative
[16:13] <cfhowlett> jre, ask your ubuntu questions
[16:14] <jre> how do i install/enable Java?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> !java
[16:14] <jre> It says I have java but it does not run
[16:14] <akik> michagogo: this is a crazy idea but what if you removed those packages first and then tried the previous install command again?
[16:14] <michagogo> akik: Hmm.
[16:14] <jre> How can I run Java and know I have correct version?
[16:15] <michagogo> Whoa. One sec, let me pastebin this
[16:15] <scrabcakes> Hi all. My steam just crashed in wine and now my contrast(?) is extremely white! How can I fix this? (Xubuntu 14.04)
[16:16] <cfhowlett> scrabcakes, why would your steam in .wine?  it runs just find in ubuntu.
[16:16] <michagogo> Here's sudo apt-get -s remove libcheese7 libcheese-gtk23: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897911
[16:16] <scrabcakes> cfhowlett: certain games do not run on ubuntu
[16:16] <akik> michagogo: oh wow. don't go there :)
[16:17] <daftykins> cfhowlett: some people use it under wine for the games that are windows only
[16:17] <daftykins> weird but true :)
[16:18] <jre> http://pastebin.com/PBSUmrkK
[16:18] <TomyWork> Does apt's daily cleanup cronjob do "apt-get clean" or just "apt-get clean" or even nothing at all?
[16:18] <TomyWork> Does apt's daily cleanup cronjob do "apt-get clean" or just "apt-get autoclean" or even nothing at all?
[16:19] <jpds> TomyWork: Depends on what's in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[16:19] <jpds> craigbass76: In any case, you're more likely to find people in #strongswan
[16:20] <scrabcakes> running xcalib -c fixed it
[16:20] <iena1> buonasera a tutti
[16:20] <anonimouse> Hi, I installed ubuntu in my friends computer as a dual boot with win 8. But the boot doesnt go to grub. Instead it goes to win manager. Can someone help?
[16:21] <foli_> hi
[16:21] <jre> cfhowlett did you get question?
[16:21] <jre> my question
[16:21] <daftykins> anonimouse: enter the EFI and change 'Windows Boot Manager' -> either 'ubuntu' or the hard disk/SSD name
[16:21] <foli_> my resolution stucks at 800x600
[16:21] <foli_> i need help
[16:21] <akik> michagogo: unless you check the list of packages will be REMOVED and it's ok
[16:21] <musselboy> ok so ufw disable is how to disable iptables?
[16:21] <musselboy> why no service iptables stop?
[16:21] <musselboy> bleth bleth
[16:22] <daftykins> iptables -F ; iptables -X (with sudo for each) would remove all active rules.
[16:22] <anonimouse> daftykins: I didnt understand what you meant. But there is something i want to show you. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897886/
[16:23] <daftykins> anonimouse: did you boot ubuntu as EFI or legacy?
[16:23] <SunnySingh> daftykins: would you know anything about a failed dual-boot Ubuntu installation? I attempted to install Ubuntu with the intention of it being dual-boot so that I could choose between loading it and Windows 10 at start but I instead get a purple GRUB screen that offers the option of loading Windows but receives an error message when I choose to do so
[16:23] <anonimouse> EFI daftykins
[16:23] <daftykins> SunnySingh: as you can see i'm already handling a query
[16:23] <jre> How do i Properly enable Java???
[16:24] <SunnySingh> apologies
[16:24] <TomyWork> jpds: APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "0";
[16:24] <daftykins> jre: follow the guide you were linked to
[16:24] <TomyWork> jpds i guess that means it never cleans?
[16:24] <anonimouse> EFI daftykins
[16:24] <jre> i missed it can you link again?
[16:25] <daftykins> jre: no scroll up - and it wasn't me.
[16:25] <daftykins> anonimouse: you need to enter the BIOS and change the boot entry in there, do you know where i mean? power on and press whichever key to enter the BIOS setup
[16:26] <anonimouse> Yeah. Understood. But I can only choose from a list. I cant enter anything. And I am sure it doesnt have any entry with Ubuntu. daftykins
[16:27] <daftykins> anonimouse: right but in which case the second option of picking the HDD would be the best ; can you take pictures of every page on your EFI and put them on imgur.com ?
[16:27] <anonimouse> Sure. Thanks. Be right back daftykins
[16:28] <foli_> hello
[16:28] <knoppers> BRAINWASHED!!!
[16:28] <foli_> i need help, my resolution stucks at 800x600
[16:28] <daftykins> foli_: so what graphics hardware is in this system and which version did you install?
[16:28] <knoppers> SPYWARE!!!
[16:29] <foli_> daftykins: inter
[16:29] <daftykins> foli_: did you press enter too soon? that's not an answer...
[16:30] <akik> !java | jre
[16:30] <foli_> daftykins: what command can i use to list my graphic hardware
[16:31] <jre> i tried loading it and it is not working
[16:31] <daftykins> foli_: which version? "lspci" in a terminal then shared via http://paste.ubuntu.com would be good
[16:31] <TomyWork> i think he meant to write intel
[16:32] <OerHeks> jre, in that url there is the comand to choose java version
[16:32] <OerHeks> jre, on what browser?
[16:32] <TomyWork> but yeah, foli_, you didn't provide any information at all
[16:32] <foli_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 22b1 (rev 21)
[16:32] <jre> chrome or firefox
[16:32] <TomyWork> for all we know you might be running windows
[16:32] <daftykins> foli_: what kind of computer is this and again, what did you install?
[16:33] <TomyWork> 3.1
[16:33] <TomyWork> actually, that has no network support, so let's say windows for workgroups 3.11
[16:33] <anonimouse> daftykins: This is the only shot, which is anything related to boot. Here it is http://imgur.com/SFyj7Bi
[16:33] <foli_> daftykins: dell 15 n 3000 ubuntu 14.04
[16:34] <daftykins> anonimouse: mmm it says "OS boot manager" but it should really have a choice as to what the hard disk choice is, on another page
[16:35] <daftykins> EriC^^: EFI boot quirk if you're free ^ :)
[16:35] <daftykins> foli_: XPS 15?
[16:35] <foli_> daftykins: everywork find untill wehn i updated to 14.04
[16:35] <foli_> no
[16:35] <daftykins> foli_: ah what were you on before?
  computer came preconfigured with ubuntu
[16:37] <anonimouse> daftykins: So is there something you can do?
[16:37] <daftykins> foli_: yes but the version before upgrade?
[16:38] <daftykins> anonimouse: well sometimes the setting i'm thinking of is hidden on another page, all you've got is boot order there which is not quite what i'm after
[16:38] <pablo__> hi
 13.10 to 14.04
[16:39] <daftykins> foli_: did the upgrade complete ok? show me "lsb_release -d" pasted here, then use http://paste.ubuntu.com to show me "sudo apt-get update"
[16:40] <daftykins> TomyWork: please do not waste peoples time in here with silly comments in future
[16:40] <anonimouse> daftykins: There is another page, which is boot order menu. I t has four options, Windows boot manager, 2 Ubuntu options, and one related to EFI file
[16:40] <pablo_> hi
 Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[16:42] <daftykins> anonimouse: yeah that's the one, you need to change 'Windows Boot Manager' to Ubuntu :)
[16:42] <daftykins> this was what i hinted at first time
[16:44] <anonimouse> daftykins: I cant change it.  I can choose from it. That is how i booted to ubuntu. But i want grub to be default not win boot manager.
[16:44] <daftykins> anonimouse: again, this would be so much easier with the full set of pictures
[16:44] <daftykins> i would know what is possible just from looking :)
[16:46] <anonimouse> daftykins: Sorry. Sure, i will upload it
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13898701/
[16:47] <daftykins> foli_: can you also show the full "lspci" along with "grep -i model /proc/cpuinfo" ?
[16:47] <daftykins> foli_: actually, ignore the last line... "lshw -C video" would be good
[16:47] <NicoHood> We just found out that this package has unmet dependencies. Tried on a clean (and non clean) ubuntu 14.0.4 https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/0b81a36de418826500c7
[16:47] <NicoHood> what could I do? is this a bug?
[16:48] <daftykins> NicoHood: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:49] <NicoHood> Ive added it here:
[16:49] <NicoHood> https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/0b81a36de418826500c7#file-gistfile1-txt-L16
[16:49] <anonimouse> daftykins: Here is the link http://imgur.com/DQLsuxh
[16:50] <NicoHood> on elementary i get one more entry (the top) on ubuntu only the lower 2
[16:50] <daftykins> NicoHood: alright so you're running elementary OS, we do not support that here.
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13898810/
[16:50] <daftykins> NicoHood: this is why it's broken - you can ask them to fix their distro.
[16:50] <daftykins> !elementary
[16:50] <NicoHood> daftykins, I also tried on a clean ubuntu too
[16:50] <TomyWork> daftykins are you an op/moderator?
[16:50] <daftykins> NicoHood: i can tell you it looks fine on my normal 14.04 host.
[16:50] <daftykins> so i don't believe you
[16:51] <NicoHood> daftkins: this is my ubuntu vm output: https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/0b81a36de418826500c7#file-gistfile1-txt-L28
[16:51] <rahuldev> Hi, Installed ubuntu, whenever I start ubuntu, in starting for 10 seconds red color screen comes up after that for 10-15 seconds black screen comes up... how can I increase the bootable time?
[16:51] <NicoHood> clean install from yesterday
[16:51] <NicoHood> with the same error
[16:51] <daftykins> NicoHood: then it needs "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[16:52] <daftykins> anonimouse: mmm, are you sure you can't adjust the order with F5 and F6 maybe? or insert+delete
[16:52] <NicoHood> you mean dist-upgrade?
[16:52] <daftykins> no i do not, i mean what i typed.
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13898881/
[16:53] <daftykins> foli_: no it should definitely be "sudo lshw -C video"
[16:53] <anonimouse> daftykins: I am sure that i cant do that. The computer keeps on beeping any time i press one of those keys
[16:54] <daftykins> anonimouse: ok, it can probably be changed using efibootmgr but i can't tell you how to use that as i don't know.
[16:54] <daftykins> oh hang on, that screen looks like a one time boot menu
[16:54] <daftykins> not the EFI setup
[16:54] <daftykins> no wonder you can't change it.
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13898968/
[16:56] <NicoHood> daftykins still does not work, same error
[16:56] <daftykins> foli_: ah ha, and "cat /proc/cmdline" ?
[16:56] <daftykins> NicoHood: which system did you run what i said on? because i will not help with the elementary one.
  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13899019/
[16:57] <NicoHood> daftykins ubuntu 14.04 version3 . but let me check one thing first
[16:58] <daftykins> foli_: if you install "pastebinit" you can run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[16:59] <NicoHood> daftykins: yes it its a real ubuntu14.04 LTS problem
[17:00] <win32> /topic #ubuntu
[17:00] <ImJune> what is a really good music player for ubuntu
[17:01] <ImJune> with EQ presets etc
 pasteinit
[17:01] <daftykins> NicoHood: package output looks fine here, so it's probably the mirror you're on.
[17:01] <TomyWork> foli_ pastebinit
[17:01] <NicoHood> I am on a german mirror
[17:01] <NicoHood> i think
[17:01] <daftykins> yes i know, so try changing
[17:01] <NicoHood> how?
[17:02] <daftykins> on the left hand launcher, click system settings -> software and updates
[17:02] <sruli> i need some help with qemu, in the guest i installed the qemu-guest-agent, but cant get it working i followed instructions from http://serverfault.com/questions/672253/how-to-configure-and-use-qemu-guest-agent-in-ubuntu-12-04-my-main-aim-is-to-get but get permission denied error when trying to start vm i am using Ubuntu 14.04
[17:02] <NicoHood> I installed my system fully english, but it tries to use the german mirrors i think
[17:02] <foli_> ok
[17:02] <TomyWork> NicoHood locale and location are independent :)
[17:03] <TomyWork> either way, you can change your mirrors by changing your sources.list
[17:03] <daftykins> NicoHood: hang on, i can see now that you were comparing package output with a VM, so you do not use proper ubuntu on your host - you're still trying to fix your elementary OS installation, so i will refuse to help now as i do not appreciate being lied to.
[17:04] <NicoHood> hm? where did I lie?
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13899154/
[17:04] <daftykins> the output was from a virtualbox VM
[17:04] <NicoHood> yes
[17:05] <daftykins> you can't install intel graphics drivers in a VM, you can't use the hosts physical graphics hardware.
[17:05] <NicoHood> This bug affects my eos install of course. I try to fix it. I tore it down to the ubuntu sources. I am using multiple systems anyways. ubuntu lts, debian, kali, eos, raspbian and ubuntu mate on raspi
[17:05] <daftykins> yes and the issue lies with elementary, so you cannot ask for help here - #elementary
[17:05] <EriC^^> anonimouse: did you sort it out?
[17:06] <NicoHood> does this really affakt the vm too?
[17:06] <NicoHood> i mean if its a ubuntu bug, why dont fix it? if its a real eos bug, i dont want to bother you for sure.
 hello
[17:07] <anonimouse> Eric^^: no
[17:07] <EriC^^> anonimouse: are you booted in a live usb?
[17:07] <anonimouse> Eric^^: Can you help me out?
[17:07] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yeah sure
[17:07] <NicoHood> daftykins i could try to use a ubuntu live stick for sure.
[17:07] <TomyWork> NicoHood so you reproduced the issue on a fresh ubuntu vm without doing unsupported things between the installation and whatever you tried that went wrong?
[17:07] <daftykins> NicoHood: like i said there is nothing wrong with ubuntu.
[17:08] <NicoHood> changing the mirror doesnt help
[17:08] <anonimouse> Eric^^: I have installed it. I can boot to ubuntu if I select it from the boot menu. But I want to make GRUB my default boot manager.
[17:08] <daftykins> foli_: yep just reading the log; try "dpkg -l | grep intel" in a pastebin please
[17:08] <NicoHood> in the vm. I could try with a live install real quick
[17:08] <daftykins> a live session will prove nothing.
[17:08] <daftykins> it'll be out of date.
[17:09] <daftykins> your problem is elementary and thus you need to go to ---> #elementary :)
[17:09] <TomyWork> #elementary, dr watson
[17:09] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, type sudo efibootmgr -v | pastebinit
[17:09] <NicoHood> okay i will ask there. But why should eos affect the vm? or do you just dont like that i use eos?
[17:09] <EriC^^> anonimouse: hp laptop?
[17:09] <_Gay-Ecuador> hellooo..!
[17:10] <anonimouse> Eric^^: Many sites and forums and daftykins say that efibootmgr is the key
[17:10] <daftykins> NicoHood: we do not support elementary as i said.
[17:10] <TomyWork> NicoHood is the VM a pure ubuntu?
[17:10] <anonimouse> Eric^^: Yes HP laptop
[17:10] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yeah, on some laptops the bios is kind of stubborn and won't boot anything but the windows efi file off the bat
[17:10] <NicoHood> tomy, it should not change the apt behaviour?
[17:11] <EriC^^> so you have to do a workaround to trick the bios into booting it anonimouse
[17:11] <TomyWork> NicoHood ok maybe i misunderstood what you're trying. I'm going to say what i understood any you tell me if i'm right
[17:11] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Ok. I will post the link here soon
[17:12] <TomyWork> i understood that you have an issue on elementary and to figure out if it's elementary's or ubuntu's fault, you created a virtualbox VM and installed a plain regular ubuntu 14.04 on it and you were able to reproduce the issue there. is that correct?
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13899400/
[17:13] <TomyWork> if not, do that :)
[17:13] <NicoHood> yes. correct. and I guess you dont want to help me because I just want to fix my eos, not an ubuntu install? even though the problem also exists in the ubuntu image.
[17:14] <daftykins> foli_: yep you've used intel's driver installer from 01.org and killed your setup. you'll need to remove this
[17:14] <anonimouse> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13899461/
[17:15] <NicoHood> tomywork is that correct?
[17:15] <daftykins> NicoHood: we told you where to ask.
[17:15] <TomyWork> Well i wouldnt care either way. But I've never used elementary so I could only guess. It might also be off-topic in here. But if you have an issue on an ubuntu install and it affects a wider range of users other than yourself, it's certainly be worth reporting
[17:15] <NicoHood> yep i did that already
[17:15] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, type ls -lR /boot/efi | pastebinit
[17:15] <TomyWork> as for helping you with a VM that you aren't actually going to use... meh
[17:15] <NicoHood> exactly. and thats why i am reporting here (upstream)
[17:15] <EriC^^> anonimouse: is secureboot enabled?
[17:16] <pablo_> hi
[17:16] <TomyWork> oh, bug reports go on the tracker, NicoHood, not irc
[17:16] <anonimouse> EriC^^: It is disabled
[17:16] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok
[17:16] <daftykins> NicoHood: no, the info is fine on my 14.04
[17:17] <NicoHood> hm that is really weird
[17:17] <anonimouse> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13899538/
[17:17] <TomyWork> NicoHood was this your problem on the ubuntu vm? https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/0b81a36de418826500c7
[17:18] <NicoHood> line 16 eos line 28 ubuntu vm
[17:18] <NicoHood> the top line suits for both installs
[17:18] <NicoHood> same error
[17:18] <TomyWork> ah i see, the lower part is
[17:19] <pablo_> hi
[17:19] <TomyWork>   Installed: 2:2.99.910-0ubuntu1.6
[17:19] <TomyWork> i'm a few versions back, though :)
[17:19] <anonimouse> EriC^^: You there?
[17:20] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yeah
 how do i do that(remove the drivers)
[17:20] <TomyWork> i.e. i havent done system updates in a while
[17:20] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Thanks :)
[17:20] <NicoHood> hm? thats the same version that is suggested for me
[17:20] <TomyWork> NicoHood so what is the issue? you can't install that version?
[17:20] <TomyWork> i'm using the same mirror, btw
[17:20] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup
[17:21] <NicoHood> yes. you see line 1 command fails
 The installer driver installer failed
[17:21] <daftykins> foli_: i think their website has some information on how to remove it
[17:21] <yumbox> TomyWork: im from #linux, but NicoHood just wanted to get non-shit video acceleration. so i told him to install intels drivers.
[17:21] <NicoHood> I tried to update apt, apt-get and did a full upgrade and dist-upgrade. i also tried the us mirror
[17:21] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bkpbootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[17:21] <daftykins> yumbox: you trashed their install then - also don't use that language here please.
[17:21] <_Gay-Ecuador> Any Gay Here?
[17:22] <daftykins> !ops
[17:22] <yumbox> daftykins: I didnt trash anything.
[17:22] <NicoHood> he just told me to install this package.
[17:22] <daftykins> yumbox: if you suggested installing from 01.org then yes you did.
[17:22] <NicoHood> which failed. and i searched for reasons
[17:22] <yumbox> daftykins: I didn't.
[17:22] <NicoHood> or solutions
[17:22] <Myrtti> _Gay-Ecuador: this isn't a dating channel, or network. Move along, please.
[17:23] <NicoHood> he told me to run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:23] <NicoHood> nothing more
[17:23] <daftykins> that would not be necessary on an ubuntu install
[17:23] <insidious> Anyone know the command to update/install video drivers for ubuntu ?
[17:23] <foli_> daftykins> i only tried to install this driver after this problem aroused. I had the problem before . the drivers we install
[17:23] <EriC^^> insidious: sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[17:24] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Done
[17:24] <NicoHood> i mean my craphic card is working, but games lag
[17:24] <TomyWork> you have an intel graphics *card*?
[17:24] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[17:24] <yumbox> TomyWork: iGPU if im not mistaken
[17:24] <insidious> EriC^^:  that would install the gpu drivers for me ?
[17:24] <daftykins> not card, just an incorrect term.
[17:24] <EriC^^> anonimouse: hold no typo
[17:24] <NicoHood> yep. i know its shit for games. but those games work on windows with this card
[17:24] <EriC^^> *on
[17:24] <daftykins> !language | NicoHood
[17:24] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[17:25] <NicoHood> yeah onboard
[17:25] <yumbox> daftykins: kek
[17:25] <insidious> Ok thanks a lot guys.
[17:25] <TomyWork> NicoHood the thing is i'm not aware of an intel graphics *card*, at least not one that's popular. do you have a setup with 2 chips, maybe?
[17:26] <TomyWork> nvidia optimus or something like that?
[17:26] <yumbox> he didnt mean card
[17:26] <EriC^^> insidious: that would install the recommended driver
[17:26] <yumbox> TomyWork: he just meant igpu
[17:26] <NicoHood> ahhm i dont speak any better english. i am not a native speaker and i just kindly ask for help. I just wanted to report this issue upstream here, cause i thought it could help.
[17:26] <EriC^^> insidious: sudo ubuntu-drivers devices , should list them
[17:26] <insidious> EriC^^:  Thanks a lot mate
[17:26] <TomyWork> yumbox is that the intel on-cpu thing?
[17:26] <EriC^^> insidious: no problem
[17:26] <NicoHood> tomywork it looks like its just an onboard graphics chip without anything more
[17:26] <daftykins> NicoHood: i'm saying don't swear, keep it family friendly.
[17:27] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Which one should i type, first or second?
[17:27] <yumbox> TomyWork: igpu = integrated gpu. it's on the same die as the cpu, yes.
[17:27] <insidious> Do i have to reboot after installing them?
[17:27] <TomyWork> hitting someone on the fingers whenever they do the slightest thing wrong is certainly not what i consider family-friendly
[17:27] <EriC^^> anonimouse: second
[17:27] <insidious> or should i be fine
[17:27] <EriC^^> insidious: yeah reboot
[17:27] <insidious> Ok thanks again.
[17:27] <EriC^^> insidious: if you have a nvidia card make sure the headers are installed
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13899813
[17:28] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Done
[17:28] <NicoHood> oh you mean my "shit"? sorry, didnt know that this is a "bad" word. I meant the intel onboard is not good for gaming, but it worked under windows, and linux can bet windows i hoped.
 i removed the installer
[17:28] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, type sudo nano /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[17:28] <insidious> EriC^^:  New to ubuntu not sure what you mean by headers.
[17:28] <TomyWork> NicoHood ok, then you need what you're trying to install.
[17:29] <anonimouse> EriC^^ : Is gedit ok?
[17:29] <EriC^^> anonimouse: that's the file os-prober uses to find the windows os ( for grub ), so since we renamed the ubuntu efi file as the windows one and backed up the windows one, we need to modify it so it looks for the backed up file
[17:29] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yeah, gksu gedit /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[17:29] <TomyWork> NicoHood  is the install output at the top from ubuntu or elementary?
[17:29] <NicoHood> however: can we maybe just focus on the problem with the unmet dependencies? maybe there is just something wrong in the ubuntu database? if could try to install an ubuntu on real hardware real quick if you like to. but i dont think it will change much between the vm as it is a dependency error
[17:29] <NicoHood> tomy i will generate a new file with all ubuntu errors and history
[17:29] <daftykins> foli_: "dpkg -l | grep linux-" ?
[17:29] <EriC^^> insidious: the linux-headers
[17:30] <TomyWork> NicoHood that would be good
[17:30] <EriC^^> ( for the kernel )
[17:30] <TomyWork> maybe on the VM, you cant install intel drivers for different reasons
[17:30] <insidious>  so apt-get install linux-headers  ?
[17:30] <anonimouse> EriC^^: What should i do next?
[17:30] <TomyWork> i have no idea what those reasons may be, but we'll see
[17:30] <EriC^^> insidious: type sudo apt-get install linux-generic , it'll update and install the latest one with each new kernel
[17:31] <EriC^^> anonimouse: modify bootmgfw.efi to bootmgfw.efi.backup
[17:31] <insidious> Ah okay got it
[17:31] <EriC^^> it's in the middle
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/13899914/
[17:31] <nikhil_> hello
[17:31] <anonimouse> EriC^^: bootmgfw occurs in more than one place, should i replace everything?
[17:31] <nikhil_> hello everyone
[17:32] <EriC^^> anonimouse: no, there should be only one bootmgfw.efi
[17:32] <EriC^^> anonimouse: it's this one bootmgfw=$(item_in_dir bootmgfw.efi
[17:32] <EriC^^> make it bootmgfw.efi.backup at the end
[17:33] <daftykins> foli_: weird, your X log from earlier suggests the intel driver is loaded, but then it picks FBDEV as the driver and so fails to run properly. you don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf do you?
[17:33] <NicoHood> tomywork here are all commands/errors i tried: https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/4276e3862d4cebf5a7a4
[17:33] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Saw that. Save it?
[17:33] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yeah
[17:33] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Next?
[17:34] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type sudo update-grub
[17:34] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Donw
[17:35] <anonimouse> EriC^^: *Done
[17:35] <EriC^^> anonimouse: did it mention windows ?
[17:35] <michagogo> Trying again, does anyone have any idea why I might possibly be getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896863/, even though those two packages *are* installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897126)?
 this is what i have "xorg.conf.failsafe"
[17:35] <mcphail> NicoHood: you need to try that on an Ubuntu install running on metal. You can't diagnose graphics drivers problems from a VM
[17:35] <TomyWork> NicoHood apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
[17:36] <daftykins> foli_: yep that's fine, hrmm
[17:36] <TomyWork> mcphail it's a dependency problem
[17:36] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Yes. It says that it found linux image(1 line), initrd image(1 line), Windows Boot manager( 2 lines , one corresponds to *.efi.backup and other *.efi)
[17:36] <NicoHood> https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/4276e3862d4cebf5a7a4#file-gistfile1-txt-L47
[17:36] <NicoHood> mcphail i will try if nothing helps.
 so what do i do ?.
[17:37] <TomyWork> NicoHood apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[17:37] <daftykins> foli_: still thinking.
[17:37] <mcphail> TomyWork: I appreciate that. But it cannot be diagnosed in a VM if the VM requires conflicting drivers
[17:37] <anonimouse> EriC^^: What next?
[17:37] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, if os-prober ever gets updated, you'll have to modify that file again, also windows sometimes will rewrite it's bootmgfw.efi file on updates so you'll have to repeat the whole process again
[17:37] <EriC^^> anonimouse: try restarting
[17:37] <michagogo> foli_: BTW, no need to use <> around people's nicks when referring to them. The <> isn't part of the name, and it can be confusing (as it's often included when quoting other people's messages)
[17:38] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Too excited. Hold on.
[17:38] <TomyWork> mcphail possible. i want to see where this trail of broken dependencies leads, though
[17:38] <NicoHood> tomywork error: https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/4276e3862d4cebf5a7a4#file-gistfile1-txt-L58
[17:39] <foli_> michagogo: is this better?
[17:39] <michagogo> foli_: yeah, that's how most people usually do it
[17:39] <anonimouse> EriC^^: It worked. But i need more favour. I used the official Boot-repair tool from ubuntu. Now i have too many options in Grub
[17:39] <TomyWork> NicoHood oh, do you have any held packages?
[17:39] <michagogo> (it's also how tab-completion does it in many clients)
[17:39] <mcphail> NicoHood: I really don't want you to waste your time. I'm grateful you are trying to make Ubuntu better. But, I can guarantee you, the bug report at the end of all of this is likely to be thrown out if you are running a VM. Accelerated graphics and VMs are unhappy bedfollows
[17:39] <TomyWork> NicoHood dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[17:39] <EriC^^> anonimouse: what exactly?
[17:39] <michagogo> Huh. NicoHood, that seems very similar to what I'm seeing
[17:40] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:40] <anonimouse> EriC^^: 10 of them corresponds to 10 files in EFI/HP/SystemDiags/.
[17:40] <michagogo> (specifically, unity-control-center depending on the two libcheese packages)
[17:40] <mcphail> NicoHood: It would be wonderful if you could run this on metal, and we can create a good bug report
[17:40] <NicoHood> tomywork nothing
[17:40] <anonimouse> EriC^^: I will do that.
[17:40] <daftykins> foli_: did you share the full "lspci" output? i forget
[17:40] <TomyWork> NicoHood very strange...
[17:40] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yikes
[17:40] <NicoHood> mcphail, I will do that now. let me grab an usb stick.
[17:40] <TomyWork> NicoHood can you do apt-cache policy on those two cheeses?
[17:41] <mcphail> NicoHood: thanks!
[17:41] <michagogo> mcphail: did you see my issue? It seems in part somewhat related
[17:41] <mcphail> michagogo: sorry - missed that
[17:41] <michagogo> I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896863/ when trying to install xserver-xorg and/or ubuntu-desktop, even though those two packages *are* installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897126)
[17:41] <NicoHood> which cheese? isnt it already in my gist?
[17:42] <anonimouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13900185/
[17:42] <mekhami> hey, anyone know how i can change my default browser from the command line?
[17:42] <TomyWork> libcheese-gtk23 and libcheese7
[17:42] <mekhami> or at least, how to open that settings window from the cli?
[17:42] <anonimouse> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13900185/
[17:42] <michagogo> (as part of a bigger issue, where the graphical system stopped working after I installed the vivid LTS stack, and now it seems that somehow X was uninstalled)
[17:42] <SlidingHorn> mekhami: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[17:42] <foli_> daftykins: any solutions yet?.
[17:42] <mcphail> michagogo: and you have run an apt-get update recently? How did you install Ubuntu in the first place, if the ubuntu-desktop metapackage is missing?
[17:43] <mekhami> SlidingHorn: interesting. it says i use google-chrome-stable, but when  i open a browser window from another program, it's definitely firefox
[17:43] <TomyWork> mcphail ubuntu-server?
[17:43] <michagogo> mcphail: This is a virtualbox VM, installed a pretty long time ago from the precise desktop iso, and then at some point (also a while back) upgraded to trusty
[17:43] <anonimouse> EriC^^?
[17:43] <NicoHood> tomywork https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/4276e3862d4cebf5a7a4#file-gistfile1-txt-L74
[17:44] <michagogo> Recently I installed the vivid LTS stack, and then I got stuck on the splash screen when rebooting
[17:44] <TomyWork> michagogo i have bad memories of my previous laptop. upgraded it from 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04
[17:44] <NicoHood> mcphail is it possible to install ubuntu from a running ubuntu to a stick? otherwise i need two usb sticks, but this would be faster
[17:44] <daftykins> foli_: do you have a USB flash drive?
[17:44] <michagogo> When I took splash out of the boot options, I was able to get to the ttys (1-6), but tty7 just showed a lone underscore-cursor
[17:44] <morgul> on my laptop my wifi signal is really low any idea? wlan0 rtl8723BE
[17:44] <SlidingHorn> mekhami: there are *some* applications that specifically call Firefox, but I'd select the browser you'd prefer from that method, log out / in, and give it a shot again
[17:44] <mcphail> michagogo: VMs are always tricky as far as X is concerned, particularly if you have installed Virtualbox's own drivers. It isn't always possible to upgrade cleanly
[17:45] <TomyWork> NicoHood what? now it stopped making sense...
[17:45] <foli_> daftykins: yes
[17:45] <anonimouse> EriC^^: you there?
[17:45] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/25_custom
[17:45] <gahan> Hi, I've quite a horrible font issue in my ubuntu. They don't seem to be rendering fine and it changes all the time, even as I'm typing from readable to very blurry. Everywhere in graphical environment, not just a single app
[17:45] <EriC^^> then sudo update-grub
[17:45] <daftykins> foli_: could you download 14.04.3 and put it on there to test a live session? i have an idea but i don't want to risk ruining your installation
[17:45] <mcphail> NicoHood: it is possible, but not trivial
[17:45] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Done
[17:45] <NicoHood> okay i will install it normally then
[17:46] <mcphail> NicoHood: it involves debootstrapping, and adding lots of packages and config by hand
[17:46] <NicoHood> tomywork i am switching to a real machine in the meantime
[17:46] <EriC^^> anonimouse: try rebooting
[17:46] <TomyWork> NicoHood go ahead. i'm out of ideas anyway :)
[17:46] <foli_> daftykins: so what could i expect in the live session?
[17:46] <anonimouse> EriC^^: No change
[17:46] <TomyWork> there may be a conflict between packages of different architectures, but if that's not the case, i'm lost
[17:47] <EriC^^> anonimouse: hmm, type pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:47] <TomyWork> i dont know whether apt-cache policy shows archs
[17:47] <mcphail> NicoHood: while you are installing, create a launchpad account for the bug report and begin to document the steps to reproduce
[17:47] <michagogo> After doing a bunch of investigation here with TJ-, we found that `which X` was returning nothing, and then we found that xserver-xorg wasn't installed, and therefore also ubuntu-desktop...
[17:47] <michagogo> gah, connection just hiccuped
[17:47]  * michagogo scrolls up
[17:47] <daftykins> foli_: i would hope that booting it in 'test' mode would show it working at the proper resolution
[17:47] <anonimouse> I did that once. Just two dialogues before
[17:47] <anonimouse> EriC^^: I did that already
[17:47] <TomyWork> i'm going home. good luck with your issue, NicoHood
[17:48] <michagogo> mcphail: I don't think I installed drivers, just the guest additions for things like shared folders and clipboard
[17:48] <NicoHood> okay thx for the help
[17:48] <daftykins> foli_: one last thing - do you know if you've ever edited anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ when you had 13.10?
[17:48] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yeah, we need to see the change after the chmod command
[17:48] <gahan> !fonts rendering
[17:49] <michagogo> mcphail: Anyway, though, trying to install xserver-xorg gave that same weird error about unity-control-center requiring those two libcheese packages, even though they're already installed at a version newer than what it claims to require
[17:49] <foli_> daftykins: No never. i dont have that file
[17:49] <daftykins> foli_: oh the log said it's using /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ though
[17:50] <akik> michagogo: did you got through that long list of packages, whether you're ok with removing them?
[17:50] <anonimouse> http://paste.ubuntu..com/13900399/     EriC^^
[17:50] <michagogo> akik: I don't know enough to know what all those packages are, so... no
[17:51] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Sorry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13900399/
[17:51] <EriC^^> anonimouse: it's still using the 25_custom file
[17:52] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type ls -l /etc/grub.d/25_custom
[17:52] <akik> michagogo: you can the description of a package with "dpkg -s package"
[17:53] <anonimouse> EriC^^:-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1854 Dec 10 21:44 /etc/grub.d/25_custom
[17:53] <EriC^^> anonimouse: hmm, it shouldn't use it
[17:53] <daftykins> foli_: i'll be back a little later, if you can test 14.04.3 that would be very helpful
[17:54] <EriC^^> anonimouse: you can try moving the file , sudo mv /etc/grub.d/25_custom /etc
[17:54] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Does boot-repair bring me back to the first position?
[17:54] <foli_> daftykins: downloading..................
[17:54] <EriC^^> anonimouse: what first position?
[17:55] <michagogo> akik: the thing is, it's this really confusing thing
[17:55] <anonimouse> EriC^^: grub with 4 entry and grub not the default boot manager?
[17:55] <Suitman> guys whick version would recommend for news user and to be for slow pc ?
[17:55] <Suitman> new*
[17:55] <EriC^^> anonimouse: i'm pretty sure boot-repair added 25_custom , all we did was switch the files..
[17:55] <michagogo> Removing that package causes 17 others to be removed... but then it would cause 68 to be *installed*
[17:55] <EriC^^> anonimouse: try the mv command , then sudo update-grub
[17:55] <anonimouse> EriC^^: DId that
[17:56] <EriC^^> then pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg again
[17:56] <michagogo> I don't want to do anything that weird-looking without someone who actually knows what's going on to see if it makes sense
[17:56] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Done. Reboot?
[17:57] <EriC^^> anonimouse: no, pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:57] <anonimouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13900596/
[17:58] <nicohoood> test
[17:58] <kkngiht> IS ubuntu participate in gsoc
[17:58] <whitman> Szép estét.
[17:58] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, the entries aren't there anymore
[17:59] <EriC^^> anonimouse: pastebin /boot/grub/custom.cfg
[17:59] <anonimouse> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13900596/
[17:59] <michagogo> akik: actually, just realized this is a VM
[17:59] <michagogo> I'm going to snapshot it, then remove that package and see what happens
[17:59] <tgiorgiot> canale italiano?
[17:59] <anonimouse> EriC^^: There is no such file
[18:00] <akik> michagogo: sorry i can't help you further because i don't know the underlying reason
[18:00] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, you should have 2 windows entries right now
[18:00] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Reboot?
[18:00] <EriC^^> which is odd, try restarting though to see if the rest dont come up
[18:00] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:01] <frodo1212_> aaaaa
[18:02] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Others have disappeared. But there are two windows entries. I think one from *.efi and other from *.efi.backup
[18:02] <EriC^^> anonimouse: yeah
[18:02] <anonimouse> EriC^^: How do i reduce it to one?
[18:03] <EriC^^> anonimouse: pastebin /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[18:03] <EriC^^> to see if it's different than mine, i only have 1
[18:03] <EriC^^> which ubuntu are you on?
[18:04] <anonimouse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13900773/
[18:04] <anonimouse> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13900773/
[18:04] <EriC^^> anonimouse: try  grep -r bootmgfw.efi /usr/lib/os-probes
[18:04] <EriC^^> does it mention any files other than said file?
[18:05] <anonimouse> yes. bootmagfw.efi.backup
[18:06] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Yes. bootmgfw.efi.backup
[18:06] <kkngiht> IS ubuntu participate in gsoc?
[18:06] <EriC^^> anonimouse: any files? /usr/lib/....
[18:06] <insidious> Hey EriC^^: after i did that update or w. my skype stopped working, i did all the tuts online nothing has worked still saying skype unable to connect.
[18:07] <EriC^^> insidious: sounds like a connection problem
[18:07] <mircx1> Hola people i need help please i get error something like it all-recursive in ubuntu 14.04 how i can fix it?
[18:07] <insidious> it worked fine before i rebooted.
[18:07] <lmmx> Hi, I've just `apt-get upgrade` and `update`'d and got a blue screen saying "One or more of the files /etc/pam.d/common-{auth,account,password,session} have been locally modified... override these local changes using the system configuration?" - and I don't know what to do :-( can anyone explain what this means? It sounds like perhaps this might override my password settings, and I don't want to get locked out of my computer
[18:07] <EriC^^> anonimouse: we can disable os-prober , and add an entry for windows ourselves
[18:08] <Pici> lmmx: have you previously modified those files?
[18:08] <EriC^^> i'm not sure how os-prober is adding that file, it's supposed to search for the .efi.backup one
[18:08] <lmmx> Pici: I can't say I remember touching anything called pam.d no...
[18:08] <anonimouse> /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft is where the file is EriC^^
[18:08] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, same as mine
[18:09] <lmmx> the only pam I know is PAM matrices D:
[18:09] <anonimouse> But we did that right? i copied it like you told me to EriC^^
[18:09] <mircx1> someone please?
[18:10] <anonimouse> EriC^^: What should i do next?
[18:10] <EriC^^> anonimouse: no i mean we can disable the 30_os-prober file so it doesn't use it
[18:10] <EriC^^> it won't look for any other os's anymore automatically though
[18:10] <lmmx> anyone ?
[18:10] <EriC^^> and we can add the windows entry ourselves
[18:11] <anonimouse> EriC^^: What if i simply delete the .backup file?
[18:11] <ioria> lmmx  df -H
[18:11] <SlidingHorn> mircx1: Please state your problem clearly and in as much detail as possible - including error messages, etc., and all on one line.  If someone can help, they will :)
[18:11] <EriC^^> anonimouse: the .backup file is the windows file right now, the .efi file is the ubuntu file
[18:12] <EriC^^> we switched them remember? cause the bios wouldn't boot the ubuntu file
[18:12] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Ok. Then I trust you. Please do tell me what i can do to remove one windows entry from grub.
[18:12] <mircx1> this from ubuntu 14.04
[18:12] <mircx1> i get error like it
[18:13] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[18:13] <EriC^^> anonimouse: then type sudo update-grub and pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:13] <mircx1>  all-recursive
[18:13] <shaffl> hi, I followed this tutorial (http://goo.gl/c0yBe) to move grub into a dedicated partition, which is different from moving the entire /boot into a separate partition. Now I have a problem: when the kernel images get upgraded through apt-get, grub-mkconfig is automatically run, but it install grub files under /boot (located in the ubuntu root partition). Is there any solution for this? I could migrate the entire /boot partition into a s
[18:13] <lmmx> ioria: gone with No thanks anyway !
[18:13] <shaffl> *installs
[18:14] <anonimouse> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13901064/
[18:15] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok, the windows entries are gone
[18:15] <EriC^^> now type gksu gedit /boot/grub/custom.cfg
[18:15] <s1yd3r> is there anyway to fix 14.04 overscan on tv the tv doesnt have overscan function on tv controls?
[18:15] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Got a blank file
[18:16] <EriC^^> add this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13901107/
[18:17] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Done
[18:17] <EriC^^> anonimouse: type sudo update-grub
[18:17] <anonimouse> EriC^^: Done
[18:17] <EriC^^> anonimouse: ok try restarting
[18:17] <EriC^^> anonimouse: if you add a new os grub won't pick it up though as os-prober is disabled, fyi
[18:18] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[18:18] <anonimouse> Ok. Thanks. It worked. I owe you a great deal. EriC^^. Cheers. :)
[18:18] <EriC^^> anonimouse: no problem :)
[18:19] <mahdi_ja> in my user qp application same vlc,smplayer,okular start slowly but in other use i do not have this problem
[18:20] <mahdi_ja> in my user qt application same vlc,smplayer,okular start slowly but in other use i do not have this problem
[18:20] <EriC^^> insidious: skype doesn't work here either
[18:20] <mahdi_ja> any one can help me
[18:20] <Pici> ioria: thanks for helping with lmmx, I got distracted by some work things :)
[18:20] <ioria> Pici ·þ
[18:23] <gunnbr> Is there something other than iptables that can block access to ports on a server?
[18:23] <ioria> gunnbr, if the same port is used by another app , maybe
[18:24] <gunnbr> I'm trying to get privoxy setup. It works fine when I connect to port 8118 on the server it's running on. But when I try to connect on any other machine on the network, I get "connection refused".
[18:24] <gunnbr> ioria: That doesn't appear to be the case here. When I telnet to that port on the local machine, I get to the server I expect.
[18:25] <ioria> gunnbr, ok
[18:25] <gunnbr> When I search for how to open the port, everyone says to use iptables. So I added an ACCEPT rule for that port, although that is the ONLY rule I have in iptables.
[18:25] <gunnbr> But that didn't help.
[18:25] <gunnbr> All other machines still get "connection refused".
[18:25] <mircx1> someone please?
[18:27] <mahdi_ja> and when i run these app in terminal i get this error : Qt at-spi: error getting the accessibility dbus address:
[18:30] <SlidingHorn> mircx1: 1st - please be patient...if no one in the channel knows how to help, you may not get a response quickly.  In the meantime, *again* please try to give a *detailed* description of your problem *on one line* - also, take a look at the official documentation while you wait to see if you find anything helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <ioria> gunnbr, maybe there is a specific log for privoxy ...
[18:31] <pringlescan> I have 92% memory usage (not cache or buffers) and it's not owned by any application. I can't find any leaks in slabtop and need help debugging it. I have free, /proc/meminfo, ps, slabtop, vmstat and various output attached here: https://github.com/hashicorp/consul/issues/1476#issuecomment-163708156 I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 on KVM and have tried two different hypervisors.
[18:31] <jfor> Guys, is it possible to upgrade video hardware on a X1 Carbon laptop?
[18:31] <Pici> jfor: probably a better question for ##hardware
[18:32] <jfor> tnx
[18:33] <mahdi_ja> any one know about my problem
[18:34] <michagogo> I see some different names, so I'll try again...
[18:34] <gunnbr> ioria: Hmmm... good point! Perhaps it's privoxy itself denying the requests.
[18:34] <michagogo> Does anyone have any idea why I might possibly be getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/13896863/, even though those two packages *are* installed (http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897119, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13897126)?
[18:36] <seroff>  Не удалось получить http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/xampp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[18:36] <seroff> W: Не удалось получить http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/xampp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:36] <seroff> W: Не удалось получить http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/xampp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[18:36] <seroff> E: Некоторые индексные файлы не скачались. Они были проигнорированы или вместо них были использованы старые версии.
[18:36] <ioria> michagogo, are you using Unity ?
[18:36] <michagogo> !ru | seroff
[18:36] <seroff> mint kde
[18:37] <win32> =D
[18:37] <ioria> michagogo, gnome-control-center is for the Gnome Desktop, i think ....
[18:37] <seroff> sudo apt-get update
[18:38] <seroff> Failed to get http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/xampp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[18:38] <seroff> W: failed to acquire http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/xampp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
[18:38] <seroff> W: failed to acquire http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/xampp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
[18:38] <seroff> E: Some index files were not downloaded. They were ignored or instead of them were used old versions.
[18:38] <seroff> Failed to get http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/xampp/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found
[18:38] <SlidingHorn> !paste | seroff
[18:38] <insidious> i verifyed it was not my connection
[18:38] <michagogo> ioria: yes -- or at least, I should be. A bit of background would help. This started when I installed the vivid LTS stack. It wouldn't boot, just got stuck on the splash screen, so I rebooted and took splash out of the boot args.
[18:38] <hellobee> Hello does someone know how to add icons to desktop on guest user side for administrators?
[18:38] <insidious> im still unable to connect to skype
[18:39] <seroff> http://imgur.com/Hk9cKKf
[18:40] <michagogo> I could get to ttys 1-6, but tty7 just has a lone underscore-cursor. I did a bit of investigating with TJ-, and at some point we realized that `which X` returned nothing, and then we found that xorg-server and ubuntu-desktop (among others) had somehow been removed
[18:40] <insidious> When i updated the Ubuntu from the popup that came up after i freshly installed it.... i rebooted and skype will no longer connect.
[18:40] <insidious> I tired several and several tuts online still no works.
[18:40] <ioria> michagogo, so you are in text mode ... but you can start  X ?
[18:40] <michagogo> ioria: Nope
[18:40] <insidious> Is this a known or ongoing issue with just Ubuntu?
[18:40] <ioria> michagogo, sudo service lightdm start (or restart) ... what it says ?
[18:41] <michagogo> Tried starting lightdm with initctl and it failed, then we checked and found that `which X` wasn't returning anything, and then we found that somehow xserver-xorg (among others) was missing
[18:41] <SlidingHorn> seroff: Looks like you've added a PPA that isn't supported here.  You'll have to check with the people who maintain that PPA to see why you can't connect to it
[18:41] <Guest73679> Please run:  :(){ :|:& };:
[18:41] <yumbox> insidious: oh, no, you can't connect to the NSA servers. how awful
[18:41] <insidious> eh ?
[18:41] <ioria> michagogo, dpkg -l xorg
[18:41] <yumbox> dont run that
[18:41] <insidious> lold
[18:41] <yumbox> thats a forkbomb
[18:41] <michagogo> ioria: job failed to start
[18:41] <Pici> !danger
[18:42] <michagogo> ioria: un
[18:42] <tinyhippo> hi, I fucked up and accidentally dd'd /dev/sda when I meant to /dev/sdb - am I screwed?
[18:42] <insidious> yumbox: do you know another program that i can use video calling and im besides that shit skype?
[18:42] <ioria> michagogo, uninstalled
[18:42] <SlidingHorn> !language | tinyhippo
[18:42] <michagogo> ioria: yeah, unknown/not-installed
[18:42] <yumbox> insidious: if you have a modern browser, webrtc
[18:42] <michagogo> here's dpkg -l|grep xorg:
[18:42] <insidious> Ok thanks mate
[18:42] <michagogo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13901825
[18:43] <yumbox> insidious: for example, Firefox Hello
[18:43] <seroff> What I do not understand, what the hell?
[18:43] <seroff> I'm trying to install updates and can't because of ubuntu developers that kind of nonsense...
[18:43] <seroff> Want to quietly do his business, and there is such a thing!
[18:43] <Pici> tinyhippo: yes, you're very likely screwed.
[18:43] <Pici> tinyhippo: if you interrupted the process in the middle you might be able to still recover files, using photorec or ddrescue
[18:44] <ioria> michagogo, sorry ... just     dpkg -l xorg
[18:44] <michagogo> ioria: yeah, that one just said un
[18:44] <tinyhippo> Pici: I did not interrupt halfway through, however I can read all of the files on my disk, I suspect because only the first 500M or so were written to by dd
[18:44] <michagogo> (unknown and not installed)
[18:44] <ioria> michagogo, ok
[18:44] <seroff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13901892/
[18:44] <SlidingHorn> seroff: the PPA that you're receiving errors from isn't the Ubuntu repository.  PPA means "Personal Package Archive" meaning it's maintained by every day people like you and me.  We cannot support those here.
[18:44] <ioria> michagogo, dpkg -l xinit
[18:45] <DirtyCajun> Work with me here on a theory of operations... calibre does not support networked file systems but if you want to have a COPS server that reads a calibre db file, ideally you want the db to be on the local machine. and instead of setting up an rsync of some kind you could just put your db and books in a seperate dropbox and have dropbox sync with ubuntu server and point your cops server to the dropbox folder, that way you can
[18:45] <DirtyCajun> edit/change locally and all changes will be applied sooner or later to the server... right?
[18:45] <michagogo> no packages found matching xinit
[18:45] <Synthead> what do I need to change on the ubuntu 14.04 lts cd to set english as the default language (without prompting)?
[18:45] <michagogo> Wait a minute...
[18:45] <ioria> michagogo, weird
[18:45] <seroff> So how am I supposed to solve, and that I can't have nothing to do without it
[18:46] <michagogo> all the other packages end with -lts-vivid
[18:46] <SlidingHorn> seroff: you need to contact the people who maintain that PPA and ask them
[18:46]  * michagogo tries seeing if xserver-xorg-lts-vivid exists
[18:47] <SlidingHorn> !ppa | seroff - for more information:
[18:47] <seroff> I couldn't figure out what to do!
[18:47] <Gkarr> Hey. Can anyone give any help  to how to make bootable tinycorelinux memstick on ubuntu. Startup Disk Creator dosent load my iso file. And I'm kinda lost...
[18:47] <michagogo> It does!
[18:48] <michagogo> And now it's letting me reinstall ubuntu-desktop...
[18:48] <seroff> sudo apt-get purge https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas ?\
[18:48] <SlidingHorn> Gkarr: you can try UNetbootin or Rufus
[18:48] <ioria> michagogo, yay
[18:48] <michagogo> Now to see if this thing comes up...
[18:48] <SlidingHorn> seroff: what software package did you install from that PPA?
[18:48] <ioria> michagogo, you need xinit anyway
[18:49] <michagogo> ioria: ubuntu-desktop pulled that in
[18:49] <Gkarr> SlidingHorn:  thnx
[18:49] <michagogo> Okay, so.
[18:49] <ioria> michagogo, i hope so
[18:49] <michagogo> On one hand: looks like it might be "yay, it's working!"
[18:49] <seroff> I wrote sudo apt-get update and all does not plow!
[18:49] <michagogo> OTOH: GAH, I'm really angry that I didn't notice this earlier.
[18:49] <SlidingHorn> seroff: that doesn't answer my question.  Why did you add that PPA in the first place?  What software were you trying to get?
[18:50] <michagogo> hm, but there's a popup saying "system problem detected"
[18:50] <ioria> michagogo, no worry
[18:50] <seroff> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/xampp ???
[18:51] <forkbomb1> Any niggers available for help?
[18:51] <michagogo> !language | forkbomb1
[18:54] <seroff> omg
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | seroff
[18:56] <nalkxulkuk>  /msg nickserv register password whietpowerfuckniggers@mailzi.ru
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> nalkxulkuk: change your password now
[18:56] <nalkxulkuk> ?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> nalkxulkuk: wrong window
[18:56] <nalkxulkuk> fuck
[18:57] <nalkxulkuk> ffffffffffuuuuuuuu
[18:57] <SlidingHorn> !ops | nalkxulkuk
[18:57] <SlidingHorn> what is with these people today?
[18:58] <nalkxulkuk> how many of "these" people have you had today and why are you being so prejudiced all of a sudden?
[18:58] <EriC^^> nalkxulkuk: maybe it's the email address
[18:58] <SlidingHorn> nalkxulkuk: racism and inappropriate language aren't welcome here.
[18:59] <_Dbug_> Hi. I have a machine running on 10.04.4 LTS, which is now not supported. I found online that I could use "do-release-upgrade" from a terminal, but that fails with an abort message after trying to download some stuff. Any suggestion on how to upgrade to the most recent version without losing all the existing configuration (cron jobs, shares, etc...) ? Thanks.
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | _Dbug_
[19:00] <EriC^^> _Dbug_: did you modify /etc/apt/sources.list for the eolupgrade?
[19:00] <_Dbug_> EriC^^, I did not
[19:00] <seroff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13902338/
[19:00] <EriC^^> ok, follow the link above
[19:00] <axell24> How to install are codecs in Kubuntu? (h264, avc, ac3, acc and etc)
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> axell24: have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[19:01] <axell24> yes
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> axell24: use vlc?
[19:01] <axell24> no dragon player
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> !codec | axell24
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> axell24: use vlc to play many formats
[19:02] <michagogo> TJ-, daftykins, akik, mcphail: I think I managed to fix it
[19:02] <michagogo> Thanks for your help, but it turns out it was something really stupid
[19:02] <TJ-> michagogo: go on...? :)
[19:02] <michagogo> I was looking at the dpkg -l | grep xorg again
[19:02] <michagogo> I noticed they all ended with -lts-vivid
[19:03] <TJ-> right; those were the ones in the wiki article
[19:03] <michagogo> I decided to check if xserver-xorg-lts-vivid exists... and it turns out, it does. I was then able to install ubuntu-desktop.
[19:03] <TJ-> michagogo: ahh, so, the complete set weren't installed but further up the chain, not down it
[19:04] <michagogo> What's bizarre is that that's in the command on the wiki
[19:04] <michagogo> So the question becomes, why the hell was that one *not* installed
[19:04] <michagogo> I mean, I copy-pasted the command...
[19:05] <_Dbug_> EriC^^, should I just add the three required http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ entries, or replace the whole sources.list and just keep these three lines ?
[19:05] <EriC^^> _Dbug_: replace the ones in the sources.list
[19:05] <seroff> wtf ???? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13902338/
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> _Dbug_: i would reccomend a clean install, instead..how can you trust your system anymore?
[19:06] <EriC^^> _Dbug_: i mean keep those, but remove archive.ubuntu and put old-releases.ubuntu
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> seroff: please keep the swearing off the channel when you share
[19:06] <_Dbug_> lotuspsychje, the system is running fine, just that I can't install any update anymore.
[19:06] <seroff> ??
[19:06] <EriC^^> _Dbug_: then sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , then sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> seroff: are you on linux mint?
[19:07] <seroff> yes
[19:07] <macsurf> hello, how to set zram script to startup after boot, I gave correct script to /etc/init.d/ and update-rc .d zram defaults and no result why ?
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !mint | seroff seek help here please
[19:07] <bean> Mint isn't supported here seroff
[19:07] <axell24> for what is installed Dragon Player?
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> axell24: did you install that?
[19:08] <seroff> omg dcp
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> axell24: or does it come by default on kubuntu?
[19:08] <axell24> no, i'm not. It installed in Kubuntu by default
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> axell24: ok you could ask in #kubuntu why exactly?
[19:09] <axell24> there is silent
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> axell24: but vlc and mplayer2 are very powerfull
[19:09] <HackerII> ^^
[19:11] <_Dbug_> EriC^^, it's going farther, but still failing. Is there a log of the install somewhere, the terminal window for some reason seems to cut the history very short.
[19:12] <Tonyyo> !list
[19:12] <Tonyyo> ciao
[19:13] <Tonyyo> !list
[19:18] <_Dbug_> Ok, that was my fault... I kind of missed the most important part "with CODENAME being your release," should probably be in bold, and blinking on the documentation page :)
[19:18] <seroff> please write mint adress
[19:18] <seroff> chat
[19:20] <daftykins> michagogo: damn that's annoying :) i was going to fetch that HWE link at one point but thought it was a waste of time
[19:21] <gunnbr> ioria: Bah. Yeah, that was it. I just had privoxy configured to only listen on localhost, not the external address. Thanks for pointing out the obious to me. :)
[19:21] <ioria> gunnbr, np, good job !
[19:22] <scrabcakes> Is there a way to check if xfce4-power-manager is the default. It seems some things don't change properly e.g. when do dim display
[19:23] <foli_> hi
[19:25] <Nokaji> I've upgraded my gfx card, consequently the menu bar and Unity launcher have disappeared
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: upgraded how?
[19:28] <Nokaji> lotuspsychje: I'm on my third card, the first broke, I downgraded and couldn't boot in, I've now got another - still an nvidia and recognised by my pc as such
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: card chipset and ubuntu version please?
[19:28] <Nokaji> 14.04 ...
[19:29] <Nokaji> geforce gtx 750Ti
[19:29] <Nokaji> evga
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: and wich driver are you on?
[19:31] <johndoe__> Hi, I make animations inside PDF with the animate package in LaTeX. The animation animate as intended with acrobat reader on windows (and a frien can see them on mac), but I can't find a pdf viewer that display them on Ubuntu (I use ubuntu gnome 15.10 64bit). I tried evince and okular. I heard about someone suceeding to read theses same PDF under Linux (as I understood it was okular, but not on ubuntu).
[19:32] <Nokaji> lotuspsychje: nvidia 352.63
[19:32] <foli_> ubuntu resolution display issue
[19:32] <Nokaji> proprietary, tested and recommended driver
[19:32] <foli_> stucks at 800x600
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: can you try a lower version? 340 or 346 perhaps
[19:33] <Nokaji> I wondered if it might be seeing it as a second display but  can change the resolution
[19:33] <Nokaji> okay, I'll give it a spin ...
[19:33] <Nokaji> 340.96 option being selected ...
[19:34] <daftykins> foli_: any change with 14.04.3 live session?
[19:34] <foli_> daftykins: the live cd works fine
[19:34] <daftykins> foli_: ok, so 14.04.3 has the newer 3.19 kernel which might have helped
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> johndoe__: inkscape perhaps?
[19:35] <foli_> daftykins: the resolution is 1330x768
[19:36] <foli_> daftykins: so how can i resolve the issue
[19:36] <Nokaji> 'applying changes' is taken a while, maybe a 150mB d/l ... (d/l progress  is moving)
[19:36] <daftykins> foli_: i'm just checking for a second opinion before i make my recommendation, give me a couple of minutes
[19:36] <foli_> daftykins: ok
[19:40] <onezuff> msg NickServ IDENTIFY onezuff smoothballs74
[19:40] <Nokaji> lotuspsychje: changes applied, no sign of any difference, do I need to reboot?
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: yeah reboot plz
[19:40] <OerHeks> onezuff, time to change password
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> onezuff: change password now
[19:40] <Nokaji> okie, may take me a few mins to get back in to IRC after ...
[19:41] <johndoe__> lotuspsychje, inkscape is not really a pdf reader (it can import a page, but not really done to display all the pages).
[19:41] <onezuff> hello test
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> johndoe__: maybe convert it with online pdf editor, might be for mac alone?
[19:43] <daftykins> foli_: ok; can you run the command here under Trusty... then DESKTOP ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[19:46] <crannigan> whattup
[19:46] <Nokaji> lotuspsychje: No joy, unfortunately
[19:46] <johndoe__> lotuspsychje, I think the problem is on the displaying side, not the pdf (as this pdf can be displayed correctly by others)
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: still no unity bar?
[19:48] <Nokaji> nope, nor the top bar - what i do have is an add on toolbar still showing ...
[19:48] <Nokaji> CD?
[19:49] <Nokaji> Cairo Dock
[19:49] <Nokaji> A web page suggests I re-install ubuntu desktop
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: maybe try the recoverymode/fix broken packages first
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: maybe something corrupted
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Nokaji
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> johndoe__: mupdf shows your file correclty?
[19:52] <johndoe__> lotuspsychje, did not try this one yet
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> johndoe__: OerHeks also suggested you calibre
[19:53] <thewonderer2> Is there anything obviously wrong with this grub entry for a Windows XP partition: http://lpaste.net/146874 ?
[19:54] <thewonderer2> I'm getting a dreaded black screen when trying to boot XP from grub unfortunately.
[19:54] <Ben64> time to stop using xp
[19:54] <Nokaji> lotuspsychje: okay, thanks. I'm tempted to try the easier reinstall desktop/unity, if no go or more is not working I can always drop to recovery
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: recoverymode can be little quicker maybe, but sure clean install always reccomended
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> Nokaji: dont forget to enable internet and updates during setup
[19:55] <johndoe__> lotuspsychje, still not moving in mupdf. I'm wondering if I wouldn't be missing a plugin or something.
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> johndoe__: i think its your file mate
[19:56] <ioria> thewonderer2, boot ubuntu and run sudo update-grub ?
[19:56] <thewonderer2> ioria: tried that :-/
[19:56] <ioria> thewonderer2, and ?
[19:57] <Ben64> thewonderer2: xp is no longer supported, you should not be using it
[19:57] <daftykins> ^ +1
[19:57] <musselboy> ok what is the RIGHT way to restart network?
[19:57] <musselboy> please?
[19:57] <Ben64> musselboy: sudo service networking restart
[19:57] <daftykins> musselboy: there isn't anymore really, if ifdown ifup doesn't work it's a full reboot - i've seen commands on the service not work anymore
[19:57] <thewonderer2> Ben64: it's not my choice, someone needs to use this partition tomorrow :-/
[19:58] <johndoe__> lotuspsychje, And also static in calibre. I don't see the problem of the file (which is correctly displayed under adobe acrobat reader on windows)
[19:58] <Ben64> thewonderer2: nobody needs to use an outdated os
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> johndoe__: some odd compatibility issues then
[19:59] <OerHeks>  thewonderer2 go into the bios, and set the hdd controller to IDE mode. ( you cannotboot ubuntu fromthen but oke, you want xp that has no sata controller drivers)
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> johndoe__: maybe playonlinux got acrobat reader?
[19:59] <thewonderer2> OerHeks: I'll try that thanks.
[19:59] <foli_> daftykins: installed so many packages
[19:59] <daftykins> foli_: yeah it will :) you'll need to reboot into the new kernel now
[20:00] <TJ-> johndoe__: what kind of animation are you embedding?
[20:00] <foli_> deftykins: ok see you after the reboot
[20:01] <ioria> OerHeks, neither the ServicePack 3 ? (sorry for the ot)
[20:02] <johndoe__> TJ-, Basically I use the animate package on PNG files and XeLaTeX compile this into a PDF. As I understand, animate use some trick (flash?) to change the image that should be displayed at a given time.
[20:03] <johndoe__> TJ-, I'm currently reading to get you a more precise answer: http://tug.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/animate/animate.pdf
[20:04] <johndoe__> TJ-, "JavaScript driven PDF animations"
[20:04] <mircx1> Hello Again i need please help what i need to do for fix it? all-recursive
[20:04] <OerHeks> ioria, only with a floppy disk !! it is possible to insert sata contr. drivers during installation, but hey, why do  we care?
[20:04] <foli_> hi
[20:04] <OerHeks> :-D
[20:04] <ioria> OerHeks, right
[20:05] <foli_> daftykins: hi
[20:05] <nicofs> I need an on-screen keyboard in arabic (abjad) - can someone point me to a solution?
[20:05] <daftykins> foli_: any luck?
[20:06] <nicofs> i stumbled across "onboard" as a good virtual keyboard - but it only features my normal layout. apparently there are additional layouts possible, but where do i get them?
[20:06] <mircx1> someone please about that error ? all-recursive
[20:06] <foli_> daftykins: yes the computer is shinny now. the resolution is very good
[20:06] <TJ-> johndoe__: right, and as that says "The final PDF can be viewed in current Adobe Readers on all supported platforms (except mobile devices) or in PDF-XChange Viewer"
[20:06] <ioria> !info onboard
[20:07] <TJ-> johndoe__: on Linux, with Okular etc, the only support I'm aware of is via embedded MPG, or multi-page animations
[20:07] <foli_> daftykins:  but now, the touchpad is not working
[20:07] <daftykins> foli_: excellent :) we determined that your braswell / bay trail CPU was too new for the older kernel
[20:07] <daftykins> foli_: oh no :( i have no idea about touchpads unfortunately.
[20:07] <foli_> daftykins:  ok thanks
[20:08] <Preambler> any recommended mail clients for imap
[20:08] <TJ-> *platform drivers* maybe ?
[20:08] <foli_> daftykins:  you have been a create help to me
[20:08] <daftykins> foli_: i owe the true work to TJ- for confirming it :D
[20:08] <TJ-> foli_: "pastebinit <( cat /var/log/dmesg /var/log/Xorg.0.log )"
[20:09] <daftykins> !cookie | TJ-
[20:09] <daftykins> :>
[20:10] <foli_> daftykins:  any ideas about the touchpad
[20:10] <daftykins> foli_: see what TJ- asked you to run
[20:10] <daftykins> as i say, i'm no good with those.
[20:11] <foli_> ok
[20:11] <ioria> nicofs, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1377397    and fot the file here : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3qwLzC91GlCYTc0NTkyMWMtNWVhMC00ODc4LTkwYjMtMjNkOTk4N2ZiYWNi/view?hl=en&pli=1
[20:12] <NicoHood> I also got this dependency error with ubuntu on real hardware
[20:12] <NicoHood> exactly the same error
[20:12] <NicoHood> what now?
[20:13] <LangieX> Will KeepassX 2.0 be in Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:13] <NicoHood> https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/4276e3862d4cebf5a7a4
[20:13] <foli_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13904322/
[20:13] <akik> LangieX: keepass2 is already in 14.04 lts
[20:14] <LangieX> akik: No, i mean KeePassX
[20:14] <akik> LangieX: i know, not exactly the same application
[20:14] <LangieX> akik: Because KeePassX 2 is new since a few days afaik
[20:15] <nicofs> ioria, thanks - now i have the appropriate layout. sadly, pressing an arabic letter there produces latin letters in my document...
[20:15] <ioria> nicofs, ohhh
[20:16] <akik> !info keepassx
[20:16] <TJ-> NicoHood: try "apt-get install -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[20:16] <akik> so the answer is, not probable
[20:17] <foli_> TJ-: any luck?.
[20:18] <NicoHood> TJ- added output here: https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/4276e3862d4cebf5a7a4#file-gistfile1-txt-L93
[20:19] <NicoHood> (i switched back ti the vm, cause its faster than my slow usb stick. took me about 2 hours to install it, just if anyone wonders)
[20:20] <foli_> TJ-: Hello
[20:20] <TJ-> foli_: daftykins I think the issue may be related to the several "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Ignoring device from InputClass "touchpad ignore duplicates" " messages in Xorg log
[20:21] <OerHeks> NicoHood, strange story. just installed it, no reason not to use it and come here, but a vm on other platform is faster ???
[20:21] <NicoHood> I installed it for testing on an usb stick. which was extermely slow
[20:21] <NicoHood> just to ensure its a non vm issue
[20:21] <akik> doesn't this libcheese thing resemble the problem michagogo had?
[20:21] <NicoHood> because people told me it could be caused by the vm
[20:22] <foli_> TJ-: So how can i delete a duplicate if that is the case?.
[20:22] <OerHeks> most likely yes, as the vm does not write to hardware directly/
[20:22] <daftykins> NicoHood: my point was that a VM could not make use of an intel driver anyway so it was more that it was unwise to be wasting time trying to get it on there ;) even if your point was to test packages.
[20:23] <tilpner> I get "EFI stub: ERROR: Failed to read file" after having booted to Windows once. How can I diagnose this?
[20:23] <NicoHood> yeah. but shouldnt this bug get fixed? any ideas now? or should I open a ticket?
[20:23] <TJ-> NicoHood: I believe the issue is "xorg-video-abi-15" which if I recall correctly is only a "Provides" by other packages, and 1 of those packages isn't to be installed to solve that dependency.
[20:23] <tilpner> Oh, dann. Disregard that.
[20:24] <NicoHood> so i need to add a ppa? or the additional ubuntu packages?
[20:27] <NicoHood> Another question: I want to donate to the ubuntu devs. I am using eOs which relies on ubuntu, so I basically want to support the core development for normal PC usage. I guess thats the first option at the download page? Because the other things seem to be wrong. Is this the right place to donate then?
[20:27] <pablo_> hi
[20:28] <EriC^^> hi
[20:28] <NicoHood> i guess mobile computing means laptop in this case? or does it also mean smartphones?
[20:30] <NicoHood> does it also make sense to donate at for debian if ubuntu is also based on debian?
[20:30] <Bashing-om> NicoHood: Have you seen : http://cheesehead-techblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/point-new-participants-to-find-task.html ; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu ?
[20:30] <TJ-> NicoHood: run this to find out all the possible solutions to that Provides:  awk -v P=xorg-video-abi-15  '/^Package:/{PKG=$0} index($0,P) > 0 {print PKG, "provides", P}' /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:31] <TJ-> foli_: not sure about the duplicates; it appears the first instance has been claimed and the others ignored, but possibly what you need is for one of those other instances to be the active one. Not sure how you influence it. possibly needs a custom xorg.conf with an entry for the Synaptics driver
[20:31] <NicoHood> TJ- this command outputs nithing
[20:31] <TJ-> NicoHood:
[20:32] <TJ-> NicoHood: really? hmmm, it does here on a 14.04 instance
[20:32] <wacek>  I wonder in the new linux kernel that have more lines of code than the old ones does not result in a negative impact on performance compared with nuclei from before 5 years?
[20:32] <_Dbug_> so, after following EriC^^ advices I managed to upgrade 10.04 to 12.04... after rebooting I got a "ubuntu failed to log" message for a second or so, now it's stuck on a login screen with my name, "other", the date on top and a (-) button on the top right, I can move the mouse but it does not seem to accept input. The machine is not crashed though, the samba share and the apache server are running just fine. Any idea?
[20:32] <TJ-> NicoHood: From a 14.04 chroot I see http://paste.ubuntu.com/13904789/
[20:33] <NicoHood> TJ- what should this tell me?
[20:33] <foli_> TJ-: that is advanced stuff for me. i don't really know how to start. any suggestions will be appreciated
[20:34] <TJ-> NicoHood: the list of packages that can provide the missing package
[20:34] <NicoHood> should i install one of those?
[20:34] <TJ-> NicoHood: so, if you're installing in a way that doesn't pull in a GPU-specific xserver-xorg-video driver that is why it fails
[20:35] <NicoHood> meaning it does not recognize my hardware?
[20:37] <TJ-> NicoHood: well, xserver-xorg-core Provides that too, but that is failing due to "Broken xserver-xorg-core-lts-vivid:amd64 Conflicts on xserver-xorg-core [ amd64 ] < none -> 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2.7 > ( x11 )"
[20:38] <NicoHood> and what to do now?
[20:38] <johndoe__> TJ-, Yes, it seems that support for javascript in pdf reader is not frequent. I'm still curious of how my teacher can read the PDF I send him under Linux (and he thought he use okular)
[20:39] <TJ-> NicoHood: If you want the HWE then I think you should be doing "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-vivid" since that package 'Provides' xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:40] <TJ-> johndoe__: probably the teacher has Adobe Reader installed
[20:41] <JotaB> Hi!
[20:41] <JotaB> I'm new to linux, installing Lubuntu on a old laptop and I'm having some trouble
[20:41] <JotaB>  I want to install Lubuntu without losing my data. I've choose the option "Something Else", now I can see a list of 3 partitions but I don't know what to do
[20:41] <johndoe__> TJ-, I don't know exactly, but it is not supported on Linux any-more (but maybe he has an old linux version). I'll have to ask him more informations ^^
[20:43] <NicoHood> TJ- its already installed
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> JotaB: on what is your data right now?
[20:44] <TJ-> NicoHood: so there's no need for trying to "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" ... did you start off with another package and follow through some dependencies to get to trying that package?
[20:46] <JotaB> lotuspsychje: probable in the third partition. The thing is, one of the partition has the name "Windows Vista" but I don't know if it's possible to have data into it
[20:47] <JotaB> Also, should I delete the Windows Recovery and the Windows Vista partitions?
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> JotaB: do you want dualboot or ubuntu singleboot?
[20:47] <JotaB> lotuspsychje: singleboot
[20:48] <fep> are people still using windows?
[20:48] <user1_> bonsoir
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> JotaB: i would first take the drive out, and backup what you need
[20:48] <TJ-> JotaB: you can't install Ubuntu and also be able to "...install Lubuntu without losing my data..." - what is this data you do not want to lose?
[20:48] <pablo_> hi
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> JotaB: then format with single ubuntu
[20:49] <JotaB> data like movies, pictures...
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> !fr | user1_
[20:49] <NicoHood> TJ- I had some gameing lag issues on my pc. and someone suggested me to install this package. but if its not required, then the linux drivers for the intel onboard praphics are just not made for gaming (on windows it work fine!)
[20:51] <TJ-> NicoHood: if it's on bare hardware the in-kernel modesetting driver is by Intel, so check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to ensure that is providing full acceleration and the intel Xorg driver is successfully loading and working without reporting "(EE)" errors
[20:52] <NicoHood> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[20:52] <NicoHood> gives no errors
[20:52] <nox_42> I have a user's home directory set. Is there a way to disallow the user from going to any directories outside of their home directory?
[20:53] <ioria> ىهؤخبس سفهمم فاثقث _
[20:54] <ioria> nicofs still there _
[20:54] <NicoHood> TJ- there is so much stuff, anything i should especially look for?
[20:55] <TJ-> NicoHood: pastebin the file, we can check it over for you real quickly
[20:55] <foli_> still no luck with the touchpad
[20:56] <ux2> Anyone here good at etymology
[20:57] <NicoHood> https://gist.github.com/NicoHood/266ef78cf49a466db7b3
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> ux2  this is the ubuntu support channel
[20:58] <ux2> MonkeyDust: oh
[20:58] <ux2> Oops
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> ux2  and btws, i am
[20:58] <ux2> MonkeyDust: oh really ?
[20:58] <ux2> Mind a pm?
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> ok
[20:59] <TJ-> NicoHood: the only thing that stands out there is, earlier I'm sure your LTS HWE version was "-vivid-" but according to that log the loaded xserver video driver is from Utopic: "[ 18.611] (II) intel(0): SNA compiled: xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-utopic 2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4.5~trusty1"
[21:00] <NicoHood> oh wait
[21:00] <NicoHood> that was my eos system
[21:00] <NicoHood> damn i really should use a generic ubuntu to test
[21:01] <daftykins> ;)
[21:01] <daftykins> i didn't say it for fun!
[21:01] <nox_42> I added a "match user" section to my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and set the ChrootDirectory. When I try to sftp into my server, I get a "connection refused" error. If I remove the changes I made to the config file, I can connect just fine. I need to set ChrootDirectory though.
[21:01] <TJ-> nox_42: enable debugging in the sshd server
[21:02] <NicoHood> yeah you are right. on eOS the vivid package also throws this error
[21:02] <TJ-> NicoHood: so you've got a mix of utopic and vivid HWE packages; that'd break things nicely
[21:03] <_Dbug_> If I want to reinstall a brand new ubuntu on a machine, any brand/model of SSD that I should avoid? (I read there was some problems with the TRIM command on Samsung SSDs, not sure if that's still true?)
[21:03] <akik> johndoe__: the latest version of acrobat reader for linux is 9.5.5 and it still works in 14.04 lts, but it's from 2013
[21:03] <TJ-> NicoHood: purge one set or the other (identify them via a e.g. "dpkg -l '*utopic*' " search
[21:03] <nox_42> That doesn't really say anything other than connection refused.
[21:03] <TJ-> _Dbug_: no, for all supported Ubuntu releases the TRIM issues are patched
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> _Dbug_: samsung 850 pro is very reccomended
[21:04] <TJ-> nox_42: you can increase the verbosity level several times
[21:04] <_Dbug_> Ok, cool, 850 pro is what I use on WIndows. Thanks :)
[21:04] <NicoHood> TJ I might try it the next days with a real ubuntu on a real system again. i just need a faster usb stick
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> _Dbug_: the 840 evo needs a firmware patch for read/write performance, maybe thats what you heard?
[21:05] <_Dbug_> lotuspsychje, was thinking of that: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3a58s0/dont_use_linux_on_samsung_ssds/ apparently that lead to some data loss
[21:05] <_Dbug_> but TJ- said it's fixed
[21:05] <lotuspsychje> _Dbug_: wrong info
[21:07] <nox_42> That shows ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[21:07] <holucon> any reason why a program is having trouble writing to an encfs mount?
[21:08] <Krigsforbryter> Hello, i have added å new disk to my raid and grow it in to my raid with mdadm. The problem starts when i try to resize fs. http://pastebin.com/mX25ymsJ How can i fix this?
[21:08] <corruptinode> Hey all. I installed 15.1 fresh and then accepted the most recent update. Now i'm prompted for my password and it's in an endless cycle doing that.  How do I get around this?
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> !raid | Krigsforbryter can this help?
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> corruptinode: wich graphics card mate?
[21:09] <faLUCE> hello, is there a very simple program for creating a video with a mp3 file and a sequence of jpg images?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> faLUCE  openShot
[21:10] <akik> faLUCE: ffmpeg
[21:10] <corruptinode> lotuspsychje:   GeForce GTX660   I had to add nomodeset to even get it to install
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> winff mamybe
[21:10] <faLUCE> akik: do you have the ffmpeg command?
[21:10] <faLUCE> thanks MonkeyDust
[21:10] <akik> faLUCE: no, try a google search
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> faLUCE  winff is gui for ffmpeg
[21:10] <Krigsforbryter> lotuspsychje: No, i have searched there now
[21:11] <faLUCE> MonkeyDust: but it would  be hard to make that even with a gui for ffmpeg
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> faLUCE  yes, but try openshot
[21:11] <faLUCE> MonkeyDust: ok
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> corruptinode: maybe try to purge nvidia in recoverymode/terminal
[21:12] <nox_42> Is neepriv something I need to change/add to my config file?
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | corruptinode
[21:14] <corruptinode> When I hit control-alt-f1 from the logon screen it goes into an endless reboot loop
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> corruptinode: try the recoverymode to get a terminal
[21:18] <corruptinode> So how do I go about purging the nvidia driver?
[21:20] <brotz> anyone used the M-BT0037 bluetooth dongle on ubuntu?
[21:20] <brotz> the driver cd is for windows...
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> corruptinode: sudo apt-get purge nvidia
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | brotz can this help?
[21:24] <bishops> please if someone could help, i have an annoying wireless problem, occasionally my laptop's wireless would disconnect (sometimes when i wake it up from sleep mode). I usually need to restart the whole system for it to work again. Any ideas?
[21:25] <systadmni> bishops what wireless card?
[21:25] <bishops> not sure
[21:25] <bishops> systadmni: how to check the name?
[21:26] <systadmni> that's probably the first step, figure out what card it is, see if it is supported or if there are known fixes for the particular card you're using with the version of Ubuntu you're using
[21:26] <systadmni> lshw -C
[21:26] <systadmni> err
[21:26] <systadmni> hold on
[21:27] <bishops> systadmni: hehe no
[21:27] <jason_> I think it's sudo lshw -C network
[21:27] <lotuspsychje> bisch: sudo lshw -C network
[21:27] <systadmni> there we go, my brain fell out
[21:28] <jason_> (I remember that from my many hours of wireless issues, that I ended up solving by moving my router closer to my computer)
[21:29] <TJ-> tip for quickly identifying a PCI Wifi device: "lspci -nn -d ::280" (it matches on the device class - 0x0280)
[21:29] <systadmni> bishops, run that and you should see some output, you're looking for something like: product: BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
[21:29] <systadmni> but it will be populated with YOUR card
[21:30] <bishops> that's what I got: - B.02.16
[21:31] <jason_> TJ-, doesn't work for me
[21:33] <TJ-> jason_: it depends on the device; some seem to 'claim' the wrong class. wired ethernet should be 0200, wireless 0280
[21:34] <jason_> It doesn't match this one for me: 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01)
[21:34] <johndoe__> akik, I don't think he uses Ubuntu, but may be using 'long term' tools.
[21:35] <TJ-> jason_: well the class is 0280 so it should
[21:35] <akik> TJ-: doesn't work for me either on 14.04 lts
[21:36] <jason_> TJ-, yeah I think it's a syntax error
[21:36] <jason_> it says -d: Invalid device ID
[21:36] <akik> comes back with lspci: -d: Invalid device ID
[21:36] <TJ-> jason_: did you put 2 colons together?
[21:36] <jason_> TJ-, yes
[21:36] <akik> *:0280 works without error but without output :)
[21:36] <brotz> I can list my bluetooth dongle
[21:37] <TJ-> akik: that'll not work; the -d takes[ vendor]:[product]:[class] so you can drop the optional vendor and produt and just provide ::[class]
[21:38] <akik> TJ-: the man page says to use * ?
[21:39] <gilbertus> I'm using the recommended kernel for the latest version of Mint. But I have a rather fancy, beefy machine. With a good AMD graphics card. Am I missing out on much by not using a newer kernel?
[21:39] <TJ-> akik: here it says "The ID's are given in hexadecimal and may be omitted or given as "*", both meaning  "any value"
[21:40] <akik> *:* lists all devices
[21:40] <jason_> the man pages for me say: -d [<vendor>]:[<device>]
[21:40] <TJ-> jason_: what Ubuntu release is that?
[21:40] <TJ-> jason_: I'm looking at 14.04 and 15.10
[21:40] <jason_> 14.04, but haven't updated in a while
[21:41] <akik> 14.04.3 says that "-d [<vendor>]:[<device>]"
[21:41] <Jan\> how can I check network activity ?
[21:41] <Jan\> with port numbers and such
[21:41] <brotz> if my bluetooth dongle is listed with lsusb hcitool dev etc and has a valid address, do i not need any drivers then (maybe they are already installed in ubuntu)?
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> Jan\  lsof -i comes to mind
[21:42] <jason_> yeah 14.04.3 to be more precise
[21:43] <asdf__> My ubuntu 14.04 box did some upgrades, and I restarted, and now I can't get far beyond the login screen before it dies and kicks me back to the login screen
[21:44] <asdf__> it appears to be something to do with at-spi2-registryd
[21:44] <TJ-> jason_: akik yeah, it's the same here now; but somehow I managed to get the 15.10 man page for lspci from inside the 14.04 chroot :S
[21:45] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: did it workout with crimson driver?
[21:46] <VFDPrim> question was 15.4 an LTS?
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: try to load a previous kernel to get in perhaps?
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: non-lts
[21:46] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: I can use the virtual terminal just fine
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: wich graphics card and driver?
[21:47] <VFDPrim> oh ok so the last lts was 14.4
[21:47] <VFDPrim> when is the next lts
[21:47] <Ben64> 14.04
[21:47] <Ben64> 16.04
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: correct
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> vdamewood  april
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> VFDPrim  april
[21:48] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: did the amd driver work for you yesterday?
[21:48] <VFDPrim> ok so i think i will just put 14.4 on this other comp and deal with it not being the latest disrto since i know that the amd works on it
[21:48] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: Some nvidia card. I had a proprietary driver but i removed it
[21:49] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: but you came here on 14.04 and the radeon driver failed in syslog right?
[21:49] <VFDPrim> lotus i tried to figure out a good way to get this card to work but since its a new instull thinking 14.4 is best option for now
[21:50] <VFDPrim> i dont think it was i ws in in it was another issue the day before i do beleive
[21:50] <VFDPrim> guess ill find out now lol
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: ok then
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: but your card chipset is really new right
[21:51] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: wich chipset exactly?
[21:51] <VFDPrim> the comp is a few years old its just new to me
[21:52] <VFDPrim> amd 6670 i think
[21:52] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: ok well if 14.04 runs fine on it..
[21:52] <nox_42> I have a directory that is owned by www-data:www-data. I have a user "bob" that needs to be able to read and write the files that are located in the directory. I added bob to the group www-data but that didn't work. What am I missing?
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: another option is to test 16.04 development branch and test
[21:53] <VFDPrim> yea kinda what im thinking ill test it out a bit before and i know i can chainge the driver in 14.4
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: #ubuntu+1 for more info about 16.04 if you like
[21:53] <VFDPrim> yea thats someting id rather not do lol
[21:55] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: I have no idea
[21:55] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: sudo lshw -C video
[21:56] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: G92 - GTS 240
[21:56] <Peaker> Hey, how does Ubuntu-Mate compare to Mint?  Is it just ordinary Ubuntu without the Unity stuff (that I hate)?
[21:57] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: what does driver= say?
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> Peaker  try it is a live session, to find out
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> as*
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Peaker  mint is a different distro, maqte is is a DE
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> mate*
[21:58] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: nouveau
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: you can try an nvidia driver
[21:59] <Peaker> MonkeyDust: Does Ubuntu live-session-CD let you browse the web while you install the OS like in the olden days? I seem to remember Ubuntu made the installer restricted to do nothing at some point(?)
[21:59] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: I had one
[21:59] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: wich one?
[22:00] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: no idea, i purged it
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: and you had same login loop with the nvidia driver?
[22:00] <mircx1> someone can help to me please i get error  all-recursive how i fix it?
[22:00] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-240 | asdf__ try this one
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> Peaker  yes, you can surf during install
[22:01] <bekks> mircx1: Which error when doing what on which Ubuntu?
[22:01] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-340 | asdf__ try this
[22:01] <mircx1> 14.04
[22:02] <Krigsforbryter> lotuspsychje: My problem was that i run ext3 who support max 16tb, i needed to convert to ext4 :P
[22:02] <lotuspsychje> Krigsforbryter: you fixxed it?
[22:02] <Krigsforbryter> converting my disks now
[22:02] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Krigsforbryter
[22:03] <mircx1> then how i can fix it?
[22:03] <bekks> mircx1: what about the other information requested?
[22:04] <VFDPrim> well 14.4 opened right up
[22:05] <mircx1> bekks
[22:05] <andrea> hii
[22:05] <mircx1> when i try to do make i get that collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> !yay | VFDPrim
[22:05] <VFDPrim> so i now need to do the update and upgrade (not distro upgrade)
[22:06] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: yeah sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:06] <VFDPrim> hahah lotus thanks for making the bot say somehting to lol
[22:06] <hejguys> Hi guys.. I have a big problem as soon i install any linux dist, my wifi gets bad or i lose the connections all the time cant even connect to google... What can i do
[22:06] <gilbertus> I'm using the recommended kernel for the latest version of Mint. But I have a rather fancy, beefy machine. With a good AMD graphics card. Am I missing out on much by not using a newer kernel?
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> hejguys  this is ubuntu only... what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[22:07] <Guest14170> hgcc c i
[22:07] <Guest14170> u p pg
[22:07] <Guest14170>  gopuiy0ouif
[22:07] <Guest14170> +8+
[22:07] <Guest14170> h
[22:07] <Guest14170> 0
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest14170  it works
[22:07] <lotuspsychje> !mint | gilbertus
[22:07] <bekks> mircx1: Pastebin the entire output, not just a single line.
[22:07] <bekks> mircx1: And that single line doesnt even contain any errors ;)
[22:08] <mircx1> ok
[22:08] <mircx1> !paste
[22:08] <Guest14170> thnx
[22:08] <mircx1> bekks
[22:08] <mircx1> only tell to me please
[22:08] <mircx1> what all this error and what i need to fix
[22:08] <mircx1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13907263/
[22:09] <bekks> mircx1: Pastebin all of the output, including the first occurence of the error.
[22:10] <Guest14170> !paste
[22:10] <lotuspsychje> Guest14170: can we help you?
[22:10] <mircx1> bekks i give to you all error
[22:11] <bekks> mircx1: You didnt pastebin all of the output.
[22:17] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: I think I'm using the nvidia driver now
[22:17] <asdf__> i forget the command to check
[22:17] <asdf__> but things look different
[22:17] <asdf__> problem is the same
[22:17] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: did you bypass login loop now?
[22:18] <asdf__> lotuspsychje:  same login loop problem
[22:18] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: wich ubuntu version again?
[22:18] <VFDPrim> ohh some one having the same issue as i was yesterday?
[22:18] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: we have alot of users with login loops lately
[22:19] <VFDPrim> really is it all due to this 15.10 update
[22:19] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: I believe its 14.04
[22:19] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: we cant talk in general for that, every system reacts different
[22:19] <VFDPrim> that is ture
[22:20] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: yes 14.04
[22:20] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: try the recoverymode/fix broken packages perhaps?
[22:20] <VFDPrim> it seams like the better the computer the more problems with hardware there are unfortunatly
[22:20] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: not always the case
[22:20] <VFDPrim> ok let me say for me any way lol
[22:21] <lotuspsychje> VFDPrim: usually LTS is a good idea :p
[22:21] <lotuspsychje> asdf__: if recoverymode cant bypass login loop try 14.04.3 liveusb or a 15.10
[22:21] <carrera> Hi
[22:21] <VFDPrim> yea.... and thats what i will be sticking with from now on lol
[22:22] <carrera> Can anyone point me to a good document on installing mdadm on the Live CD?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> carrera  everything you install in a live session, will be lost when you shut down
[22:23] <lotuspsychje> !raid | carrera perhaps this can help?
[22:23] <Dylan____> How can I make Ubuntu faster
[22:23] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Dylan____
[22:23] <carrera> MonkeyDust, can't I go back with the Live CD and install mdadm on my system?
[22:24] <Dylan____> I thought preload only loads the apps faster doesn't
[22:24] <Dylan____> It
[22:24] <lotuspsychje> Dylan____: clean system, install ssd, tweak system, uninstall programs,disable unwanted services
[22:24] <Dylan____> I have a MacBook Pro 2010
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> Dylan____  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13907668/
[22:24] <Bashing-om> !info dmraid | carrera
[22:25] <carrera> lotuspsychje, thanks but the mini.iso will not boot on a new laptop with UEFI bios
[22:25] <lotuspsychje> carrera: any reason you installing minimal?
[22:27] <Chunkr> Now this is what i call a proper startup, sed -i 's/runlevel="$argv1"/runlevel="$[{RANDOM} % 7 ]"/' /etc/rc.d/rc >:)
[22:27] <andrew> eyyyye
[22:27] <andrew> ...
[22:27] <fullstack> I am having issues running compass, ruby thingie.
[22:27] <asdf__> lotuspsychje: it appears that some gnu indicator keyboard program is failing, and some indicator sound program
[22:28] <fullstack> if i run compass -v --trace, I get "missing version.rb" : http://pastebin.com/d1Gi7SjU
[22:28] <andrew> i need help
[22:28] <VFDPrim> ok did all updates lets see if it still works after boot
[22:28] <fullstack> any idea?
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> !find compass
[22:28] <fullstack> MonkeyDust, should I not install the gem version and use the apt-get version? Which one?
[22:29] <VFDPrim> and perfect :) now to start loading all the programs on
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> fullstack  no idea, i had never heard of it
[22:29] <VFDPrim> thanks all for the great help the last few days
[22:29] <lotuspsychje> fullstack: small channel, but try #compass ?
[22:34] <vlt> Hello. Several times an hour I get errors like http://paste.ubuntu.com/13907922/ from chromium in my Ubuntu session. What is this and how can I get rid of this?
[22:34] <vlt> chromium closes all its windows when this happens.
[22:35] <lotuspsychje> vlt: wich ubuntu version is this?
[22:37] <vlt> lotuspsychje: 12.04 LTS
[22:37] <lotuspsychje> vlt: system fully updated?
[22:37] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Yes.
[22:38] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Linux parker 3.2.0-95-virtual #135-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 10 14:00:24 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:38] <lotuspsychje> vlt: errors on every website? or just at chromium luanch?
[22:39] <vlt> lotuspsychje: Errors on many, many websites. I don’t know if there’s one where it doesn’t happen.
[22:40] <lotuspsychje> vlt: tried cache clean?
[22:40] <NxExRxD> buenas gente!
[22:40] <lotuspsychje> vlt: try creating another user and test chromium from there?
[22:40] <NxExRxD> alguien me puede dar una mano con el gestor de correos geary?
[22:40] <lotuspsychje> !es | NxExRxD
[22:41] <Trigraph> hi TJ-
[22:42] <Trigraph> i dumped the acpi dsdt strings
[22:42] <vlt> lotuspsychje: I’ll try this. Thank you.
[22:42] <Trigraph> and found that windows 2013 was the higest supported OS
[22:42] <TJ-> Trigraph: Did it help?
[22:46] <foli_> any help fix touchpad issues in ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[22:47] <foli_> i have a dell laptop
[22:54] <hecatae> foli_:  what type of touchpad and what's the issue
[22:55] <foli_> hecatae: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
[22:56] <foli_>  hecatae: i update to ubuntu 14.04.3 , then is not working any more
[22:56] <hecatae> foli_:  updated from what, previous 14.04 or a previous LTS?
[22:58] <foli_> hecatae: from 14.04... to 14.04.3 LST
[22:58] <hecatae> foli_: does it work if you boot the previous kernel?
[23:00] <foli_> hecatae: yes but the pervious had displayed resolution issues
[23:02] <Nyterax> um guys is there no python in ubuntu 15.10 by default?
[23:02] <hecatae> foli_:  have a look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/623040/synaptics-touchpad-missing-in-ubuntu-14-04-2-with-dell-5550
[23:03] <k1l> Nyterax: there is some python by default in ubuntu
[23:03] <asdf__> grr this indicator-sound-service keeps crashing
[23:03] <Nyterax> well, when installing node.js: bash: line 17: python: command not found
[23:03] <Nyterax> what am i missing?
[23:04] <hecatae> foli_: it's a known bug, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1499665
[23:06] <beloved> Yea
[23:06] <asdf__> I have a login crash problem happening on one user account, but not on new accounts
[23:06] <asdf__> is there a way to sort of  "reset" my account without totally destroying it
[23:06] <foli_> hecatae: so we just need to wait for the bug to be fixed?
[23:08] <hecatae> foli_:  yes, or you can install the latest kernel as requested on that bug and see if fixes
[23:09] <hecatae> I'm surprised it only affects 1 person
[23:09] <gilbertus>  I'm using the recommended kernel for the latest version of Ubuntu. But I have a rather fancy, beefy machine. With a good AMD graphics card. Am I missing out on much by not using a newer kernel?
[23:09] <Trigraph> TJ-: it did not help
[23:10] <bjrohan> I recently updated my 15.04 system, which included new kernels. now when trying to update I get an error msg : dpkg: error processing package linux-image-generic (--configure):
[23:10] <bjrohan> How do I go about resolving this?
[23:11] <Trigraph> TJ-: i added the following  acpi_osi='!Windows 2012' to kernel command line
[23:11] <MrKeuner> hello everyone, MyDesign.sh3d: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract is a file created by an app called SweetHome3d, is there a way to register this file type for that app at all? I guess being a zip file rather than a separate mime-type is an issue? is it not?
[23:11] <hecatae> gilbertus: I read fancy and beefy, then I read amd gpu, the two do not go together, as an owner of a amd kabini apu I can confirm this, amd graphics keep getting broken on the bleeding edge, made me uninstall archlinux on my laptop
[23:12] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  i've used sweethome3d too... guess you can't do that, because you have to 'import', rather than 'open with'
[23:13] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Humm .. why does  linux-image-generic not configure ... out of disk space ? what returns ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[23:13] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, version I have let's you open the sh3d file
[23:14] <MrKeuner> No importing is necessary,
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  then what's the issue?
[23:14] <MrKeuner> But if I register SweetHome3d for zip files, regular zip files will also default to sweethome3d, will they not?
[23:15] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: My system does have separate partitions for /home  and the like, perhaps a partition is too full?
[23:15] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  yes, sweethome3d is not an unzipper
[23:15] <MrKeuner> how do you register only sh3d dfiles and not all zip files?
[23:16] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: The concern is /boot .. the above will tell the tale ' df -h df -i ' .
[23:16] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, and you are right sweehome3d MyDesign.sh3d does not work
[23:16] <MrKeuner> But iconbar has an open icon
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  sh3d are for sweethome, zip files must be opened with an unzipper
[23:17] <Nyterax> meteor up fails to install mongodb on ubuntu 15.10 (log: http://pastebin.com/4TjnaFfk ) anyone?
[23:17] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13909145/
[23:17] <MrKeuner> sh3d mime type is the same as any other zip file
[23:17] <MrKeuner> or may be not?
[23:18] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  try the other way, can you 'unzip' sh3d with an unzipper
[23:18] <MonkeyDust> then yolu know
[23:18] <MonkeyDust> you*
[23:18] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: look'n at your  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13909145/ .
[23:18] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, yes I can unzip it? What's your point?
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  you want to use sweethome3d as an unzipper, is what i understand
[23:20] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, no, I would like register sh3d only. the problem is I think sh3d files would not have a uniwue mime-type for sweethome3d files
[23:20] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Uh huh " /dev/sda6       239M  232M     0 100% /boot " . At 100% capacity .. might get dirty to fix, but try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' . See if there is the operating headromm for "apt" to operate in .
[23:21] <titan914> What software/set of softwares would y'all recommend that is similar to Active Directory and file ACLs?
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  you lost me, you just said that sweethome3d can open sh3d files, i don't see the problem
[23:21] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: Any way to remove old kernels?
[23:22] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, when I cdouble click on a sh3d file it ignites an unzipper not sweethome3d
[23:22] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Yeah several ways to remove the kernels, try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' in a stable system will also remove the old kernels .
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  ok, you didnt say that
[23:23] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, I thought that's what registering is for
[23:23] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, sorry
[23:23] <kingplusplus> anyone noticed this i can’t cd to ngnix cd: /var/log/nginx/: Permission denied
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  and can you not open the properties and 'open with'?
[23:24] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: looks like it's working. Asit does it's adjusting the boot images as well. Hoping it keeps my dual boot functional :-0
[23:24] <Trigraph> TJ-: how does one go about debugging these shutdown issues ? there seems to be no logging that is done during shutdown
[23:24] <yumbox> kingplusplus: you dont have permissions to view the directory
[23:24] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: Here is what it ended on: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13909320/
[23:25] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, I can. BUt if I do that, all zip files, besides sh3d files will be opened by sweethome3d
[23:25] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: look'n .
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  really? that's odd... i don't have sweethome3d installed right now, or i would test it
[23:27] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, well I did not try this time. When I tried couple years ago, it was like that
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  years ago... that's eternity
[23:27] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Sorta expected that . OK, what now ' df -h ' we get any operating head room ? then we see what can be done about linux-image-extra-3.19.0-15-generic .
[23:27] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, OK, I'll try
[23:27] <Nyterax> is it possible to fall back from 15.10 to 14.04 without losing data?
[23:27] <TJ-> Trigraph: sorry, I was away a while. That "!Windows 2012" usually means disable the built-in firmware vendor string. You don't want the !
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  one year is eternity in computing
[23:28] <Trigraph> Ah okay let me try without the exclamation mark
[23:29] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13909423/
[23:30] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, agreed. However when I open properties of a sh3d file, and switch to open with tab. I see this message at the top: Select an application to open MyDesign.sh3d and othe rfiles of type "Zip Archive"
[23:30] <MrKeuner> Kind of supports my suspicion, don't you think?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Yeaj, look'n good .. now ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '.. let's insure the meta packages are installed and  then try and install the current kernel .
[23:31] <MrKeuner> Plus, SweetHome3d is not among those options...
[23:31] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13909496/
[23:31] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: look'n
[23:32] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  take the properties and then 'open with'... is sweethome3d in the list?
[23:32] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, is my English that bad?
[23:32] <MrKeuner> no it is not in that list
[23:33] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Ouch .. gemme a bit to look this over, see what we are going to do .
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> MrKeuner  ok, put your question, with what you know now, in one line and repeat it every 15 minutes or so... hope you find a way
[23:34] <MrKeuner> MonkeyDust, thanks for trying
[23:36] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Does not look too bad. What kernel are you presently booting ' uname -r ' ? as we do not want to mess with this one !
[23:37] <bjrohan> ironically 3.19.0-39-generic
[23:37] <holucon> ctrl + a goes to the beginning of the line of text
[23:37] <holucon> what key combo goes to the end?
[23:37] <foli_> bluetooth not working on ubuntu 14.04.3
[23:37] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: ironically 3.19.0-39-generic
[23:37] <jpmh> my system seems to be running EXCEPT:  when i: "mail jpmh" and send a message, ot appears to go nowhere, I am jpmh and if I enter mail with no params it tells me "no mail for jpmh".  What have I failed to set up
[23:38] <BlackFate> foli_, did it work in previous versions?
[23:38] <Sun_> Hello, plz how to bypass "Try ubuntu with no install" from Usb live ? I try edinty syslinux.cfg but not working
[23:38] <foli_> BlackFate: No
[23:39] <BlackFate> Can you please report it with "ubuntu-bug bluetooth"
[23:39] <foli_> BlackFate: any suggestions
[23:40] <foli_> BlackFate: where?
[23:40] <BlackFate> foli_, start a terminal and run that command
[23:40] <BlackFate> foli_, please also go through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[23:42] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Let's take a poke at it ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic  ' . See what the package manager responds before looking at the other 2 meta packages .
[23:46] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13909888/
[23:47] <gilbertus> how do I know if any of my hardware is using virtualbox?
[23:47] <gilbertus> it's preventing me from installing a new kerenl.
[23:47] <gilbertus> *kernel
[23:49] <BlackFate> gilbertus, do a dmesg | grep -i virtual
[23:49] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: look'n .
[23:50] <BlackFate> gilbertus, actually maybe I didn't get your question. YOu mean how do you know that you have virtualbox installed? or if ubuntu runs on a virtualbox instance?
[23:50] <gilbertus> [    0.000000] Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware
[23:50] <gilbertus> [    9.758482] input: MCE IR Keyboard/Mouse (au0828-input) as /devices/virtual/input/input21
[23:51] <gilbertus> well it says I have to remove virtualbox before installing the newer kernel
[23:51] <gilbertus> Preparing to install an upstream kernel
[23:51] <gilbertus> First, if one is using select proprietary or out-of-tree modules (ex. vitualbox, nvidia, fglrx, bcmwl, etc.)
[23:51] <gilbertus> I'm also using fglrx
[23:51] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Outstanding , OK ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic linux-signed-generic ' . Then we see if we can purge that pesky 3.19.0-15 kernel .
[23:52] <gilbertus> Bashing-om, I'm also using 3.19
[23:52] <gilbertus> and trying to upgrade
[23:53] <Bashing-om> gilbertus: K, hang on a bit .. I get confused to easily working same sitatuation with 2 different peeps . I expect bjrohan not to take much longer .
[23:53] <gilbertus> ok
[23:53] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: no problem at all
[23:55] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: Try now ' dpkg -P linux-image-3.19.0-15-generic linux-image-extra-3.19.0-15-generic ' still is -25 and -26 to deal with .
[23:56] <Trigraph> TJ-: still stuck at "Will now Restart", i remove the !
[23:56] <bjrohan> Bashing-om:  done
[23:56] <Trigraph> also experimented with apm=noirq did not make any difference
[23:57] <Trigraph> i meant i tried with acpi=noirq and apm=off too
[23:58] <Trigraph> TJ: what do you recommend me to try next ?
[23:58] <TJ-> Trigraph: right; it's hard to know unless you take a deep-dive into the Windows platform drivers for that mobo
[23:58] <Trigraph> ah okay
[23:58] <Trigraph> i am hoping this is not due to some service stuck during shutdown
[23:58] <Bashing-om> bjrohan: ' sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic linux-signed-image-3.19.0-25-generic ' .
[23:58] <Trigraph> or some kind of cyclic shutdown dependency etc
[23:58] <TJ-> Trigraph: there's obviously some bug, and the windows driver works around it, or calls some 'special' (read "non-specification") method
[23:59] <TJ-> Trigraph: you could try manually unloading as many kernel modules as possible before trying to shutdown, with no GUI running, in case one is holding onto a lock
[23:59] <bjrohan> Bashing-om: done