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bluesabreochosi: nighty00:09
knomebluesabre, any news on the wallpaper contest webapp?00:15
bluesabreknome: hoping to make more progress tonight.. I wanted to get it done over the weekend but ended up being sick the whole weekend00:17
knomeexcuses, excuses... ;)00:17
bluesabreyup, I've got plenty of them00:18
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flocculantknome: any news on the wallpaper contest mail :p06:27
* flocculant shrugs06:27
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bluesabreflocculant: he may be waiting for my app to get done11:07
* bluesabre shrugs again11:07
Unit193bluesabre: When you jumping to Xenial, anywho?11:08
bluesabreUnit193: I usually don't jump to the dev release for a while. If things happen to break badly, can't accomplish anything11:09
bluesabreI run the most recent release until beta with a vm of the dev release11:10
Unit193Ah, so I'll end up jumping before you. :/11:11
bluesabreprobably11:11
flocculantfortune favours the bold :)11:13
flocculantbluesabre: and not sure why waiting for an app - if no-one bothers volunteering then any need for it :D11:13
flocculantor is that hopefully fortune favours the foolhardy :p11:14
slickymasterWorkflocculant, are you accepting encryption tests on virtual machines?11:19
flocculantno - we can't do anything yet11:19
flocculantI just thought I'd ask for some sort of team view on it 11:20
slickymasterWorkoki doke11:20
knomeflocculant, i'm trying to figure out what bluesabre's app can do - that defines what kind of volunteers we need11:25
flocculantright 11:25
knomeso it's kind of "blocked" now11:25
knomei can ask for volunteers now, but i won't have any substance for them...11:26
knomei mean, it's totally possible that the app does most of the work11:26
knomeand it probably should11:26
flocculantwell no11:26
knomewell yes ;)11:26
knomelike check the license - done by asking the person what the license is11:26
flocculantbecause if there are no volunteers then it's just been a waste of time 11:27
flocculantso no ;)11:27
knomeright... no to that11:27
knomei guess so11:27
knomei'll look into that later today then11:27
knomebut i'll likely need to look at it again then :P11:27
flocculantI just wonder if finding out if there's any actual volunteers informs the rest of it - given last time 11:28
flocculantthat's all I mean11:28
knomewell if the app does what i imagine it does11:28
knomethere is very little need for volunteers after all11:28
flocculantpersonally I don't have a horse in the race as any wallpaper isn't likely to be something I would use 11:28
knomeso little that in the worst case scenario, i'll just sign up for all that11:28
knomebut of course i'd like to get other people involved11:29
knomeeven sharing a tiny bit of work11:29
knomebecause potential future contributions11:29
flocculantknome: so at the end of the day if people aren't putting things forward - then ... 11:29
knomethen we'll just do it with the team11:29
flocculantwhich isn't what the plan was ;)11:30
knomei don't remember the nick from the top of my head, but somebody here said they could help11:30
flocculantyea - someone was in here talking about it 11:30
knomeno, but my plan is always to get N new contributors contributing to xubuntu every cycle, but still i/we end up releasing it and doing all the work even if we don't meet that target11:30
knomeso i don't consider this as an "contribute or it won't happen" kind of situation11:31
* flocculant shrugs now :p11:32
knomeit's more like a "contribute and we can make it happen, if you don't, then we can't guarantee anything"11:32
flocculantmy cycle artwork interest quota is almost used up - just need to find an elliptical circle :)11:33
knomesorry, i've lost some of my faith in people contributing and will automatically always think how much of the work i could do myself :P11:33
flocculantfunnily enough ...11:33
knomeyeah, i know, i end up doing a lot myself11:33
knomebut that's ok, at least i know it in advance11:34
knomeand if somebody else does X, that just means more time to work on other things11:34
* knome shrugs11:34
knomefwiw, pjotter has promised to look at drawing a xerus for us11:34
knomeso that's one potential new contributor11:34
knomeand to artwork too11:34
flocculantnice :)11:37
bluesabrehey knome11:38
flocculantakxwi has been a breath of fresh air for me for sure 11:38
bluesabrewhat all would you like the app to do? We take relevant information during the submission process, and contact them using lp if something is incorrect11:39
bluesabregrabbing author, license, url11:39
bluesabrevoting wouldn't come until quite a bit later, but it will compare every wp to each other and the one with the most +1s across all voters wins11:40
bluesabreer, the ones with the most +1s11:40
bluesabre:D11:40
flocculantheh11:40
bluesabreits a pretty basic app... handles submission/uploads, view existing, request info, and vote11:42
bluesabrelp login will probably be the hardest part11:42
bluesabre:D11:42
bluesabrealso planning to handle embedding the metadata, looked a bit into that, seems reasonable11:45
bluesabreso what else would be good to have?11:45
knomebluesabre, basically just asking about the license means the license is ok, because they have agreed to the terms11:47
knomebluesabre, but of course we will ask the winners if they intended that license11:47
bluesabreyup11:48
bluesabreand if they provide the url, we can potentially validate it ourselves11:48
knomei would just go with radiobuttons11:48
knome(x) CC-BY (or whatever license we would like11:49
knome( ) Something else, what ____11:49
bluesabrek11:49
knomeif they don't mention something else, we can consider it validated11:49
knomepleia2 also said it's fine to pre-select CC11:49
knomeas long as people are clearly given the choice11:50
knomeor we can select none by default11:50
knomeand make the user select one11:50
bluesabreI have most of the framework, just a matter of setting up the views... so a matter of having time in front of my computer to finish cranking it out11:50
bluesabreyup11:50
knomewe can do it with some short descriptions too11:50
flocculantwouldn't select none by default and insist on a choice be sensible? 11:51
knome"By selecting this, you give us (and everybody else) this, this and this permission..."11:51
flocculants/sensible/logical 11:51
bluesabreyeah, can just make a non-none required to submit11:52
knomei don't think that's legally required, and i'm not a lawyer11:52
bluesabreor11:52
bluesabre-select one- OR enter blah11:52
knomebluesabre, let me draw you a very quick draft11:52
bluesabrealrighty11:52
knomeoh shoo11:52
knomegot to go11:53
knomebbiab11:53
knomewill send the draft then11:53
bluesabrek11:54
knomebluesabre, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/licence-draft.png12:54
knomeconsider all texts as placeholders12:55
knomebluesabre, and here's a html/css imagination: http://temp.knome.fi/temp/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/html-draft/13:30
knomebluesabre, bit more there now :P13:40
flocculantjust in case anyone happens to boot with the daily - plymouth issue in vbox only it seems, got text till desktop - probably following all the plymouth updates in the last couple of days, didrocks is aware and will keep me posted16:33
slickymasterWorkgot that today flocculant 16:34
flocculantyep - I guessed you might have :)16:34
slickymasterWork:)16:35
flocculantI knew there were changes - but waited for a new image to look16:36
flocculantdon't see it in qemu apparently, don't see it on hardware for sure (or at least my h/w)16:36
Unit193Poked slang.22:22
Unit19317:13 #ubuntu-devel: < slangasek> Unit193: I have not, sorry; it's in my queue to look at still22:22
bluesabreknome: thanks23:18
knomenp23:19
knometell me if you need more help with the html side23:19
knome/css23:19
bluesabreknome: should be good for now, I'll poke you when I have to code somewhere for you to blow up23:21
knomehaha, good good23:22
knomei was thinking some fancy artwork for the checkbox/radiobuttons23:22
knomelike show a big square, but when checked, lay a big X or V on it23:22
knomethat's really just for the flash though :D23:23
bluesabre:D23:24
knomeshouldn't be too hard though23:25
knomejust make the real checkbox/radiobutton hidden and overlay artwork with js23:25
bluesabreI'll or some fancy cssing23:25
bluesabre-I'll23:25
bluesabre:D23:25
knomehmmright, css3 might support :checked23:26
knomeor sth23:27
knomeaha!23:28
* knome pokey23:28
bluesabre:D23:28

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