[00:09] ochosi: nighty [00:15] bluesabre, any news on the wallpaper contest webapp? [00:17] knome: hoping to make more progress tonight.. I wanted to get it done over the weekend but ended up being sick the whole weekend [00:17] excuses, excuses... ;) [00:18] yup, I've got plenty of them === link is now known as Guest98320 [06:27] knome: any news on the wallpaper contest mail :p [06:27] * flocculant shrugs === Guest98320 is now known as mexchip [11:07] flocculant: he may be waiting for my app to get done [11:07] * bluesabre shrugs again [11:08] bluesabre: When you jumping to Xenial, anywho? [11:09] Unit193: I usually don't jump to the dev release for a while. If things happen to break badly, can't accomplish anything [11:10] I run the most recent release until beta with a vm of the dev release [11:11] Ah, so I'll end up jumping before you. :/ [11:11] probably [11:13] fortune favours the bold :) [11:13] bluesabre: and not sure why waiting for an app - if no-one bothers volunteering then any need for it :D [11:14] or is that hopefully fortune favours the foolhardy :p [11:19] flocculant, are you accepting encryption tests on virtual machines? [11:19] no - we can't do anything yet [11:20] I just thought I'd ask for some sort of team view on it [11:20] oki doke [11:25] flocculant, i'm trying to figure out what bluesabre's app can do - that defines what kind of volunteers we need [11:25] right [11:25] so it's kind of "blocked" now [11:26] i can ask for volunteers now, but i won't have any substance for them... [11:26] i mean, it's totally possible that the app does most of the work [11:26] and it probably should [11:26] well no [11:26] well yes ;) [11:26] like check the license - done by asking the person what the license is [11:27] because if there are no volunteers then it's just been a waste of time [11:27] so no ;) [11:27] right... no to that [11:27] i guess so [11:27] i'll look into that later today then [11:27] but i'll likely need to look at it again then :P [11:28] I just wonder if finding out if there's any actual volunteers informs the rest of it - given last time [11:28] that's all I mean [11:28] well if the app does what i imagine it does [11:28] there is very little need for volunteers after all [11:28] personally I don't have a horse in the race as any wallpaper isn't likely to be something I would use [11:28] so little that in the worst case scenario, i'll just sign up for all that [11:29] but of course i'd like to get other people involved [11:29] even sharing a tiny bit of work [11:29] because potential future contributions [11:29] knome: so at the end of the day if people aren't putting things forward - then ... [11:29] then we'll just do it with the team [11:30] which isn't what the plan was ;) [11:30] i don't remember the nick from the top of my head, but somebody here said they could help [11:30] yea - someone was in here talking about it [11:30] no, but my plan is always to get N new contributors contributing to xubuntu every cycle, but still i/we end up releasing it and doing all the work even if we don't meet that target [11:31] so i don't consider this as an "contribute or it won't happen" kind of situation [11:32] * flocculant shrugs now :p [11:32] it's more like a "contribute and we can make it happen, if you don't, then we can't guarantee anything" [11:33] my cycle artwork interest quota is almost used up - just need to find an elliptical circle :) [11:33] sorry, i've lost some of my faith in people contributing and will automatically always think how much of the work i could do myself :P [11:33] funnily enough ... [11:33] yeah, i know, i end up doing a lot myself [11:34] but that's ok, at least i know it in advance [11:34] and if somebody else does X, that just means more time to work on other things [11:34] * knome shrugs [11:34] fwiw, pjotter has promised to look at drawing a xerus for us [11:34] so that's one potential new contributor [11:34] and to artwork too [11:37] nice :) [11:38] hey knome [11:38] akxwi has been a breath of fresh air for me for sure [11:39] what all would you like the app to do? We take relevant information during the submission process, and contact them using lp if something is incorrect [11:39] grabbing author, license, url [11:40] voting wouldn't come until quite a bit later, but it will compare every wp to each other and the one with the most +1s across all voters wins [11:40] er, the ones with the most +1s [11:40] :D [11:40] heh [11:42] its a pretty basic app... handles submission/uploads, view existing, request info, and vote [11:42] lp login will probably be the hardest part [11:42] :D [11:45] also planning to handle embedding the metadata, looked a bit into that, seems reasonable [11:45] so what else would be good to have? [11:47] bluesabre, basically just asking about the license means the license is ok, because they have agreed to the terms [11:47] bluesabre, but of course we will ask the winners if they intended that license [11:48] yup [11:48] and if they provide the url, we can potentially validate it ourselves [11:48] i would just go with radiobuttons [11:49] (x) CC-BY (or whatever license we would like [11:49] ( ) Something else, what ____ [11:49] k [11:49] if they don't mention something else, we can consider it validated [11:49] pleia2 also said it's fine to pre-select CC [11:50] as long as people are clearly given the choice [11:50] or we can select none by default [11:50] and make the user select one [11:50] I have most of the framework, just a matter of setting up the views... so a matter of having time in front of my computer to finish cranking it out [11:50] yup [11:50] we can do it with some short descriptions too [11:51] wouldn't select none by default and insist on a choice be sensible? [11:51] "By selecting this, you give us (and everybody else) this, this and this permission..." [11:51] s/sensible/logical [11:52] yeah, can just make a non-none required to submit [11:52] i don't think that's legally required, and i'm not a lawyer [11:52] or [11:52] -select one- OR enter blah [11:52] bluesabre, let me draw you a very quick draft [11:52] alrighty [11:52] oh shoo [11:53] got to go [11:53] bbiab [11:53] will send the draft then [11:54] k [12:54] bluesabre, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/licence-draft.png [12:55] consider all texts as placeholders [13:30] bluesabre, and here's a html/css imagination: http://temp.knome.fi/temp/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/html-draft/ [13:40] bluesabre, bit more there now :P [16:33] just in case anyone happens to boot with the daily - plymouth issue in vbox only it seems, got text till desktop - probably following all the plymouth updates in the last couple of days, didrocks is aware and will keep me posted [16:34] got that today flocculant [16:34] yep - I guessed you might have :) [16:35] :) [16:36] I knew there were changes - but waited for a new image to look [16:36] don't see it in qemu apparently, don't see it on hardware for sure (or at least my h/w) [22:22] Poked slang. [22:22] 17:13 #ubuntu-devel: < slangasek> Unit193: I have not, sorry; it's in my queue to look at still [23:18] knome: thanks [23:19] np [23:19] tell me if you need more help with the html side [23:19] /css [23:21] knome: should be good for now, I'll poke you when I have to code somewhere for you to blow up [23:22] haha, good good [23:22] i was thinking some fancy artwork for the checkbox/radiobuttons [23:22] like show a big square, but when checked, lay a big X or V on it [23:23] that's really just for the flash though :D [23:24] :D [23:25] shouldn't be too hard though [23:25] just make the real checkbox/radiobutton hidden and overlay artwork with js [23:25] I'll or some fancy cssing [23:25] -I'll [23:25] :D [23:26] hmmright, css3 might support :checked [23:27] or sth [23:28] aha! [23:28] * knome pokey [23:28] :D