[00:09] <bluesabre> ochosi: nighty
[00:15] <knome> bluesabre, any news on the wallpaper contest webapp?
[00:17] <bluesabre> knome: hoping to make more progress tonight.. I wanted to get it done over the weekend but ended up being sick the whole weekend
[00:17] <knome> excuses, excuses... ;)
[00:18] <bluesabre> yup, I've got plenty of them
[06:27] <flocculant> knome: any news on the wallpaper contest mail :p
[06:27]  * flocculant shrugs
[11:07] <bluesabre> flocculant: he may be waiting for my app to get done
[11:07]  * bluesabre shrugs again
[11:08] <Unit193> bluesabre: When you jumping to Xenial, anywho?
[11:09] <bluesabre> Unit193: I usually don't jump to the dev release for a while. If things happen to break badly, can't accomplish anything
[11:10] <bluesabre> I run the most recent release until beta with a vm of the dev release
[11:11] <Unit193> Ah, so I'll end up jumping before you. :/
[11:11] <bluesabre> probably
[11:13] <flocculant> fortune favours the bold :)
[11:13] <flocculant> bluesabre: and not sure why waiting for an app - if no-one bothers volunteering then any need for it :D
[11:14] <flocculant> or is that hopefully fortune favours the foolhardy :p
[11:19] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, are you accepting encryption tests on virtual machines?
[11:19] <flocculant> no - we can't do anything yet
[11:20] <flocculant> I just thought I'd ask for some sort of team view on it 
[11:20] <slickymasterWork> oki doke
[11:25] <knome> flocculant, i'm trying to figure out what bluesabre's app can do - that defines what kind of volunteers we need
[11:25] <flocculant> right 
[11:25] <knome> so it's kind of "blocked" now
[11:26] <knome> i can ask for volunteers now, but i won't have any substance for them...
[11:26] <knome> i mean, it's totally possible that the app does most of the work
[11:26] <knome> and it probably should
[11:26] <flocculant> well no
[11:26] <knome> well yes ;)
[11:26] <knome> like check the license - done by asking the person what the license is
[11:27] <flocculant> because if there are no volunteers then it's just been a waste of time 
[11:27] <flocculant> so no ;)
[11:27] <knome> right... no to that
[11:27] <knome> i guess so
[11:27] <knome> i'll look into that later today then
[11:27] <knome> but i'll likely need to look at it again then :P
[11:28] <flocculant> I just wonder if finding out if there's any actual volunteers informs the rest of it - given last time 
[11:28] <flocculant> that's all I mean
[11:28] <knome> well if the app does what i imagine it does
[11:28] <knome> there is very little need for volunteers after all
[11:28] <flocculant> personally I don't have a horse in the race as any wallpaper isn't likely to be something I would use 
[11:28] <knome> so little that in the worst case scenario, i'll just sign up for all that
[11:29] <knome> but of course i'd like to get other people involved
[11:29] <knome> even sharing a tiny bit of work
[11:29] <knome> because potential future contributions
[11:29] <flocculant> knome: so at the end of the day if people aren't putting things forward - then ... 
[11:29] <knome> then we'll just do it with the team
[11:30] <flocculant> which isn't what the plan was ;)
[11:30] <knome> i don't remember the nick from the top of my head, but somebody here said they could help
[11:30] <flocculant> yea - someone was in here talking about it 
[11:30] <knome> no, but my plan is always to get N new contributors contributing to xubuntu every cycle, but still i/we end up releasing it and doing all the work even if we don't meet that target
[11:31] <knome> so i don't consider this as an "contribute or it won't happen" kind of situation
[11:32]  * flocculant shrugs now :p
[11:32] <knome> it's more like a "contribute and we can make it happen, if you don't, then we can't guarantee anything"
[11:33] <flocculant> my cycle artwork interest quota is almost used up - just need to find an elliptical circle :)
[11:33] <knome> sorry, i've lost some of my faith in people contributing and will automatically always think how much of the work i could do myself :P
[11:33] <flocculant> funnily enough ...
[11:33] <knome> yeah, i know, i end up doing a lot myself
[11:34] <knome> but that's ok, at least i know it in advance
[11:34] <knome> and if somebody else does X, that just means more time to work on other things
[11:34]  * knome shrugs
[11:34] <knome> fwiw, pjotter has promised to look at drawing a xerus for us
[11:34] <knome> so that's one potential new contributor
[11:34] <knome> and to artwork too
[11:37] <flocculant> nice :)
[11:38] <bluesabre> hey knome
[11:38] <flocculant> akxwi has been a breath of fresh air for me for sure 
[11:39] <bluesabre> what all would you like the app to do? We take relevant information during the submission process, and contact them using lp if something is incorrect
[11:39] <bluesabre> grabbing author, license, url
[11:40] <bluesabre> voting wouldn't come until quite a bit later, but it will compare every wp to each other and the one with the most +1s across all voters wins
[11:40] <bluesabre> er, the ones with the most +1s
[11:40] <bluesabre> :D
[11:40] <flocculant> heh
[11:42] <bluesabre> its a pretty basic app... handles submission/uploads, view existing, request info, and vote
[11:42] <bluesabre> lp login will probably be the hardest part
[11:42] <bluesabre> :D
[11:45] <bluesabre> also planning to handle embedding the metadata, looked a bit into that, seems reasonable
[11:45] <bluesabre> so what else would be good to have?
[11:47] <knome> bluesabre, basically just asking about the license means the license is ok, because they have agreed to the terms
[11:47] <knome> bluesabre, but of course we will ask the winners if they intended that license
[11:48] <bluesabre> yup
[11:48] <bluesabre> and if they provide the url, we can potentially validate it ourselves
[11:48] <knome> i would just go with radiobuttons
[11:49] <knome> (x) CC-BY (or whatever license we would like
[11:49] <knome> ( ) Something else, what ____
[11:49] <bluesabre> k
[11:49] <knome> if they don't mention something else, we can consider it validated
[11:49] <knome> pleia2 also said it's fine to pre-select CC
[11:50] <knome> as long as people are clearly given the choice
[11:50] <knome> or we can select none by default
[11:50] <knome> and make the user select one
[11:50] <bluesabre> I have most of the framework, just a matter of setting up the views... so a matter of having time in front of my computer to finish cranking it out
[11:50] <bluesabre> yup
[11:50] <knome> we can do it with some short descriptions too
[11:51] <flocculant> wouldn't select none by default and insist on a choice be sensible? 
[11:51] <knome> "By selecting this, you give us (and everybody else) this, this and this permission..."
[11:51] <flocculant> s/sensible/logical 
[11:52] <bluesabre> yeah, can just make a non-none required to submit
[11:52] <knome> i don't think that's legally required, and i'm not a lawyer
[11:52] <bluesabre> or
[11:52] <bluesabre> -select one- OR enter blah
[11:52] <knome> bluesabre, let me draw you a very quick draft
[11:52] <bluesabre> alrighty
[11:52] <knome> oh shoo
[11:53] <knome> got to go
[11:53] <knome> bbiab
[11:53] <knome> will send the draft then
[11:54] <bluesabre> k
[12:54] <knome> bluesabre, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/licence-draft.png
[12:55] <knome> consider all texts as placeholders
[13:30] <knome> bluesabre, and here's a html/css imagination: http://temp.knome.fi/temp/xubuntu/wallpaper-contest/html-draft/
[13:40] <knome> bluesabre, bit more there now :P
[16:33] <flocculant> just in case anyone happens to boot with the daily - plymouth issue in vbox only it seems, got text till desktop - probably following all the plymouth updates in the last couple of days, didrocks is aware and will keep me posted
[16:34] <slickymasterWork> got that today flocculant 
[16:34] <flocculant> yep - I guessed you might have :)
[16:35] <slickymasterWork> :)
[16:36] <flocculant> I knew there were changes - but waited for a new image to look
[16:36] <flocculant> don't see it in qemu apparently, don't see it on hardware for sure (or at least my h/w)
[22:22] <Unit193> Poked slang.
[22:22] <Unit193> 17:13 #ubuntu-devel: < slangasek> Unit193: I have not, sorry; it's in my queue to look at still
[23:18] <bluesabre> knome: thanks
[23:19] <knome> np
[23:19] <knome> tell me if you need more help with the html side
[23:19] <knome> /css
[23:21] <bluesabre> knome: should be good for now, I'll poke you when I have to code somewhere for you to blow up
[23:22] <knome> haha, good good
[23:22] <knome> i was thinking some fancy artwork for the checkbox/radiobuttons
[23:22] <knome> like show a big square, but when checked, lay a big X or V on it
[23:23] <knome> that's really just for the flash though :D
[23:24] <bluesabre> :D
[23:25] <knome> shouldn't be too hard though
[23:25] <knome> just make the real checkbox/radiobutton hidden and overlay artwork with js
[23:25] <bluesabre> I'll or some fancy cssing
[23:25] <bluesabre> -I'll
[23:25] <bluesabre> :D
[23:26] <knome> hmmright, css3 might support :checked
[23:27] <knome> or sth
[23:28] <knome> aha!
[23:28]  * knome pokey
[23:28] <bluesabre> :D