| ejay | Hello guys. I want to hide menu bar in certain applications (e.g. konsole). There is an option to hide menu bar but when reloaded menu is visible again. Can I somehow force manu bar to be hidden? | 01:19 |
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| ejay | But realoaded I meant closing and opening again. | 01:19 |
| ejay | Buy* | 01:22 |
| ejay | By*... I'm prolly too tired to communicate with people. | 01:22 |
| krytarik | ejay: What version of Kubuntu/Konsole? | 01:28 |
| Fizzwidget | Salut ! | 01:40 |
| === jayhunold is now known as jhunold | ||
| ngaio | I'm getting the standard Qt file open dialog in kate, kwrite etc. How do I get the KDE version? | 08:00 |
| Smurphy | Morning | 08:31 |
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| prillian5 | I have upgrade to 15.04. If I enter "dolphin" in bash, it opens dolphin in Admin-Mode. | 11:45 |
| prillian5 | how can I change it to open dolphin in user-mode? | 11:46 |
| prillian5 | and ... how can I remove old kde4 components? They are still exist | 11:46 |
| lordievader | Do you run bash as root? | 11:48 |
| prillian5 | no | 11:55 |
| lordievader | Hmm, then it is very strange that it would run in admin-mode. That would be a serious rights-exploit. | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:09 |
| dracor_xxx | Hi all. Kubuntu currently offers me kernel-upgrades, but muon warns that they are unsigned. Does kubuntu deliver the packages unsigned or do I have a problem? | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | dracor_xxx, which kubuntu ? and are you using ppas in your sources.list? | 12:25 |
| dracor_xxx | BluesKaj kubuntu 15.10. Only PPA I am aware of having added is for Plasma Media Center. Can't look it up right now, Kubuntu PC is at home, I am not | 12:26 |
| BluesKaj | dracor_xxx, well that ppa probly affects the kernel module required upgrades for the media center and install dkms if not already ionstalled | 12:30 |
| dracor_xxx | BluesKaj Thank you, will do. Bye all | 12:31 |
| ngaio | On 15.10, I'm getting the standard Qt file open dialog in kate, kwrite etc. How do I get the KDE version? | 13:27 |
| BluesKaj | ngaio, in the terminal , plasmashell -v , that will give your plasma version which is now kde | 13:33 |
| ngaio | BluesKaj, What I mean is that when I run kwrite etc, and pull up the open file dialogue, I'm not getting the KDE open file dialog. What I'm getting is the Qt version. I assume that's not meant to be the default way of doing things, and it can be fixed. Sorry for the confusion. | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | ngaio, update and upgrade asap | 13:36 |
| ngaio | BluesKaj, I'm fully updated in 15.10 | 13:37 |
| ngaio | I actually don't care about any current settings in my .config etc. with respect to KDE. Is there a single command I can run that will revert all settings to default for my user? | 13:38 |
| ngaio | I see some weird stuff in any case, like missing icons in the menu | 13:38 |
| ngaio | something obviously went wrong in the upgrade from previous versions | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | ngaio, check in dolphin settings>configure dolphin >services. Make sure you have more than just the 5 services that came with plasma 5 | 13:43 |
| BluesKaj | it's not a cure but an indicator | 13:44 |
| ngaio | I'm currently in a Unity session, but assuming that makes no difference, I have only 5 services, and if it's relevant, the left side panel has only one icon showing, for Startup. Only the last 3 services are activated. | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | ok ngaio https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=223&t=128621 | 13:49 |
| ngaio | BluesKaj, if I fix the problem of missing services, I'll get the KDE file dialogs back? | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | ngaio, I think so yes, not absolutely sure | 13:52 |
| ngaio | thanks, I'll take a look and report back | 13:53 |
| BluesKaj | plasma 5 has been such a muckup, I can't remember anymore :-) | 13:54 |
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| ngaio | BluesKaj, the problem of the missing KDE file dialog was not fixed by that forum entry's instructions. It's not a big deal. I'll wait until 16.04, I guess. I was looking for it mainly so I could respond to request for information regarding a bug report I filed on KDE's handling of MTP devices | 14:31 |
| BluesKaj | ngaio, have you rebooted? | 14:32 |
| ngaio | BluesKaj, no I didn't try that, I just looged out | 14:32 |
| ngaio | logged* | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 14:33 |
| ngaio | I'll reboot now, if you suggest | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | it might work | 14:34 |
| ngaio | brb | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | ngaio, any luck? if not try this, sudo ln -s /usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/konqpopupmenuplugin.desktop /usr/share/kservicetypes5/ | 14:41 |
| ngaio | BluesKaj, no luck. I already did that command. I got a whole bunch of additional servies in Dolphin, but still no proper file open dialog | 14:45 |
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| solarhis | Bonsoir | 16:48 |
| krytarik | !fr | solarhis | 16:50 |
| ubottu | solarhis: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 16:50 |
| hay207 | hi guys, do i need the source to package a program or i can package from a binary of an older release? | 17:03 |
| genii | Source | 17:06 |
| hay207 | ok, thanks genii | 17:06 |
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| jaafar | hey friends | 19:20 |
| jaafar | so krunner now consistently crashes on login for me | 19:20 |
| jaafar | I get the error reporting popup, and go for the stack trace | 19:20 |
| jaafar | "Could not find debug symbols for this application" | 19:20 |
| jaafar | So I guess my questions are: 1) is there a known problem with krunner now, and 2) if I wanted to give a quality bug report how would I go about getting a proper stack trace? | 19:20 |
| denza242 | jaafar: first you'd need the symbols | 19:24 |
| jaafar | denza242: excellent! any suggestions on how to get them? | 19:25 |
| denza242 | I'll check the exact packagename in a bit, but it's probably krunner-dbg or something | 19:25 |
| jaafar | I wonder why the crash reporting tool couldn't figure it out... | 19:25 |
| denza242 | jaafar: the packagename? | 19:25 |
| jaafar | why it couldn't find the debug symbols for me | 19:26 |
| regedit-work | hello | 19:26 |
| denza242 | drkonqi (crashreporter) is system agnostic, and each distro has it's own weird naming convention for packages | 19:26 |
| regedit-work | is it bad if i do my do-release-upgrade from a regular in-session command shell? meaning - without logging off and doing it from tty1 | 19:26 |
| jaafar | perhaps it's libkf5runner5-dbg | 19:26 |
| denza242 | !info libkf5runner5-dbg | 19:27 |
| ubottu | libkf5runner5-dbg (source: krunner): debug symbols for krunner. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.15.0-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 1207 kB, installed size 1268 kB | 19:27 |
| jaafar | oh joy | 19:27 |
| denza242 | jaafar: ^yep, seems like it | 19:27 |
| jaafar | that explains a lot | 19:27 |
| jaafar | thanks guys | 19:27 |
| jaafar | I mean denza242 | 19:27 |
| denza242 | jaafar: no problem | 19:28 |
| regedit-work | well great... doing do-release-upgrade from command line froze the system some 60-80% through the process... the last output to console was Installing for x86_64-efi platform. | 19:34 |
| regedit-work | cant even switch to tty | 19:34 |
| regedit-work | so i can't even check if the upgrade has completed or not.... :( | 19:35 |
| BluesKaj | regedit-work, upgrading to 15.10? | 19:35 |
| regedit-work | BluesKaj: ye | 19:36 |
| regedit-work | from 15.04 | 19:36 |
| regedit-work | i (accidentally) initiated the upgrade from within a logged in session graphical command console (Konsole) instead of perhaps better to have logged out and to it from tty | 19:36 |
| BluesKaj | so just a frozen terminal | 19:37 |
| regedit-work | BluesKaj: no the entire system is frozen; no mouse, no key combinations, not even switching to tty works | 19:37 |
| regedit-work | whut thuh fuhhhhhhh.... D: | 19:39 |
| BluesKaj | ctl+PrtScn+REISUB ? | 19:40 |
| regedit-work | REISUB? whut? | 19:40 |
| BluesKaj | it'll totally reboot | 19:40 |
| BluesKaj | !REISUB | 19:41 |
| ubottu | In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 19:41 |
| regedit-work | i mean, should i do that? any chance i'd be interrupting the still-running upgrade? | 19:42 |
| regedit-work | interesting never knew about that one | 19:42 |
| BluesKaj | oops alt+.... | 19:42 |
| BluesKaj | well, if you have patience maybe whatever is happening will unfreeze itself , but I doubt it. | 19:43 |
| regedit-work | well i did it | 19:43 |
| regedit-work | and now i land at a grub prompt | 19:43 |
| regedit-work | the upgrade probably didnt leave grub in a bootable state | 19:43 |
| regedit-work | or didnt finish configuring it... :( | 19:44 |
| regedit-work | FFFFFU | 19:44 |
| BluesKaj | maybe a an update and upgrade from the VT/TTY will finish it | 19:44 |
| regedit-work | yes but how to boot | 19:44 |
| regedit-work | i'm at a grub prompt | 19:44 |
| regedit-work | guuuhhhhhhh | 19:45 |
| regedit-work | you have miserably failed Kubuntu, you have failed the user terribly | 19:45 |
| regedit-work | i will remember this Kubuntu | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj | do you have another linux OS in grub | 19:45 |
| regedit-work | BluesKaj: it's not a boot menu, it's a command prompt saying grub> | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj | oh the grub rescue prompt ...bummer | 19:46 |
| BluesKaj | but is there another linux on your machine | 19:47 |
| regedit-work | "bummer"? releasing broken upgrade processes that break a users OS and make it unbootable is outright evil... | 19:48 |
| regedit-work | not you BluesKaj :p | 19:48 |
| regedit-work | but i am fuming right now, just saying | 19:48 |
| Pebete | Hi, is there an estimate date for the availability of Plasma 5.5 for Kubuntu 15.10? | 19:48 |
| BluesKaj | regedit-work, I have to ask, did you upgrade your packages before running the upgrade-release ? | 19:49 |
| regedit-work | now i have to spend an hour or more finding & writing a live buntu..... uhhhhh the outrage | 19:49 |
| regedit-work | BluesKaj: yes; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade were performed and completed successfully before do-release-upgrade | 19:50 |
| regedit-work | even sudo apt-ger dist-upgrade | 19:50 |
| regedit-work | for good measure | 19:50 |
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| BluesKaj | Pebete, no firm date , the dev reponsible has a serious family matter to attend to so the builds are postponed for a few days | 19:51 |
| Pebete | Thanks | 19:51 |
| regedit-work | BluesKaj: is there no way to give this grub> command prompt directions to boot the Kubuntu that's there at least to text command line? | 19:52 |
| BluesKaj | regedit-work, the only thing I can suggest is systemrescue disk or boot-repair | 19:53 |
| regedit-work | why | 19:53 |
| regedit-work | on a scale of 0 to none | 19:53 |
| regedit-work | that is just fantastic | 19:54 |
| regedit-work | thanks anyway BluesKaj, i will now go break a brick wall or something | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | well if you can't get to a VT/TTY I have no magic commands | 19:54 |
| regedit-work | i mean like, why does a grub> prompt exist anyway, if not to be able to manually boot something that is otherwise not perfectly configured to boot automatically... | 19:55 |
| BluesKaj | regedit-work, I always keep a boot-repair disk handy for these situations | 19:56 |
| vertago1 | jaafar, I had that issue and I was able to clear it up by reseting the baloorc files | 20:06 |
| jaafar | vertago1: the only one I could find just has some Akonadi setting in it | 20:07 |
| vertago1 | jaafar, I am trying to remember what I did to fix my issue with the debut symbols. | 20:08 |
| vertago1 | *debug | 20:08 |
| jaafar | Oh | 20:08 |
| jaafar | well, thanks, hopefully I'm set on the krunner front | 20:08 |
| jaafar | the insight that package names are idiosyncratic was a helpful one | 20:08 |
| vertago1 | jaafar did you change any of the settings related to generating core files? | 20:10 |
| jaafar | vertago1: where would those settings be :) | 20:11 |
| vertago1 | jaafar the core dump size shouldn't be an issue as long as you are getting a list of the stack trace though. Did you get a list or just one line? | 20:12 |
| regedit-work | BluesKaj: I have an external 2TB hard drive formatted to NTFS, with a lot of space available. What are the chances of shrinking some space for a bootable live buntu on it? | 20:13 |
| jaafar | vertago1: I'm not sure; I was following the crash reporting wizard. It told me my stack trace was useless, then couldn't download symbols. Hopefully the second issue is now resolved. | 20:13 |
| vertago1 | the symbols are usually in packages with -dbg at the end | 20:14 |
| vertago1 | they are pretty large | 20:14 |
| vertago1 | the package for krunner is probably libkf5runner5-dbg on kubuntu 15.10 | 20:16 |
| vertago1 | getting apport fixed and downloading them through it would probably be the best though. | 20:17 |
| BluesKaj | regedit-work, yes, resizing the drive with gparted disk and formatting to ext4 and installing kubuntu on it will definitely work | 20:19 |
| jaafar | yes denza242 helped me find them already | 20:19 |
| jaafar | I am ready for the next time it happens | 20:19 |
| regedit-work | BluesKaj: ok le'me try that rabbit hole... | 20:20 |
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| BluesKaj | a 100GB ext4 partition for linux is plenty, regedit-work or even 50G if you don't plan on holding too much data on that partition | 20:23 |
| regedit-work | no this is just for the bootable recovery | 20:37 |
| regedit-work | is that a bad idea / not possible? | 20:38 |
| regedit-work | to make room on a drive currently fully occupied by an NTFS partition - for a bootable live buntu? | 20:39 |
| regedit-work | resizing 1.82 TiB to 1.8 TiB, how long should this take already? | 20:52 |
| ubuntourist | This afternoon I ran apt-get dist-upgrade, and all went as usual. But on te next power-on of the laptop, the UUID of the swap partition had changed... Why? | 20:56 |
| ubuntourist | How can I track it down? | 20:56 |
| vertago1 | ubuntourist: some things to consider are whether or not you use cryptswap and whether or not you have booted off a live CD which may have mounted the swap. | 21:43 |
| vertago1 | ubuntourist: I have never seen a partition change UUID on its own so I am guessing mkswap was run on it for some reason | 21:43 |
| ubuntourist | vertago1: Neither cryptswap nor a live CD. | 21:44 |
| ubuntourist | After the dist-upgrade, I shut down and moved to a different location. When I restarted, the keyboard was dead. After several restarts, with dead keyboard, | 21:45 |
| ubuntourist | I dropped into recovery at boot to see if I could ferret out the trouble. | 21:46 |
| vertago1 | ubuntourist it is entirely possible if you powered off the machine while it was trying to write to disk it could have clobbered the uuid information on disk | 21:46 |
| ubuntourist | That's where I saw it was having trouble with swap and found a different UUID assigned than what I had in /etc/fstab | 21:46 |
| ubuntourist | vertago1: There's a possibility. | 21:47 |
| ubuntourist | vertago1: The beastie's had trouble shutting down normally of late, and I've had to resort to popping the battery to get it to really stop. | 21:48 |
| vertago1 | ubuntourist, how do you shut it down? | 21:48 |
| vertago1 | I have had some machines have issues that were fixed with later kernels | 21:49 |
| ubuntourist | vertago1: I try to wait several minutes, in the hopes that it stops writing before popping the battery. | 21:49 |
| vertago1 | ubuntourist: something you may want to look at because it lets you force a disk sync :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses | 21:50 |
| ubuntourist | vertago1: I'm running Ubuntu Studio, and I normally just go to the Logout in the upper right, which offers a Logout, Restart, Shutdown or Suspend. | 21:50 |
| ubuntourist | (On occasion, I run a "sudo shutdown -h now" but rarely.) | 21:51 |
| ubuntourist | vertago1: Thanks. I'll look into that. | 21:52 |
| wxl | anyone know how add to klipper via the command line? | 22:08 |
| wxl | (with qt5) | 22:09 |
| vertago1 | wxl: have you tried this: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?68017-CLI-for-Plasma-5-Clipboard? | 22:12 |
| vertago1 | apparently the widget is different from the app | 22:12 |
| wxl | vertago1: thanks. i was actually having the same problem-- not registered as a service | 22:16 |
| rattking | wxl: you can pipe to xsel to do that | 22:53 |
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