[01:19] <ejay> Hello guys. I want to hide menu bar in certain applications (e.g. konsole). There is an option to hide menu bar but when reloaded menu is visible again. Can I somehow force manu bar to be hidden?
[01:19] <ejay> But realoaded I meant closing and opening again.
[01:22] <ejay> Buy*
[01:22] <ejay> By*... I'm prolly too tired to communicate with people.
[01:28] <krytarik> ejay: What version of Kubuntu/Konsole?
[01:40] <Fizzwidget> Salut !
[08:00] <ngaio> I'm getting the standard Qt file open dialog in kate, kwrite etc. How do I get the KDE version?
[08:31] <Smurphy> Morning
[11:45] <prillian5> I have upgrade to 15.04. If I enter "dolphin" in bash, it opens dolphin in Admin-Mode.
[11:46] <prillian5> how can I change it to open dolphin in user-mode?
[11:46] <prillian5> and ... how can I remove old kde4 components? They are still exist
[11:48] <lordievader> Do you run bash as root?
[11:55] <prillian5> no
[11:59] <lordievader> Hmm, then it is very strange that it would run in admin-mode. That would be a serious rights-exploit.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:17] <dracor_xxx> Hi all. Kubuntu currently offers me kernel-upgrades, but muon warns that they are unsigned. Does kubuntu deliver the packages unsigned or do I have a problem?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> dracor_xxx, which kubuntu ? and are you using ppas in your sources.list?
[12:26] <dracor_xxx> BluesKaj kubuntu 15.10. Only PPA I am aware of having added is for Plasma Media Center. Can't look it up right now, Kubuntu PC is at home, I am not
[12:30] <BluesKaj> dracor_xxx, well that ppa probly affects the kernel module required upgrades for the media center and install dkms if not already ionstalled
[12:31] <dracor_xxx> BluesKaj Thank you, will do. Bye all
[13:27] <ngaio> On 15.10, I'm getting the standard Qt file open dialog in kate, kwrite etc. How do I get the KDE version?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> ngaio, in the terminal , plasmashell -v , that will give your plasma version which is now kde
[13:35] <ngaio> BluesKaj, What I mean is that when I run kwrite etc, and pull up the open file dialogue, I'm not getting the KDE open file dialog. What I'm getting is the Qt version. I assume that's not meant to be the default way of doing things, and it can be fixed. Sorry for the confusion.
[13:36] <BluesKaj> ngaio, update and upgrade asap
[13:37] <ngaio> BluesKaj, I'm fully updated in 15.10
[13:38] <ngaio> I actually don't care about any current settings in my .config etc. with respect to KDE. Is there a single command I can run that will revert all settings to default for my user?
[13:38] <ngaio> I see some weird stuff in any case, like missing icons in the menu
[13:39] <ngaio> something obviously went wrong in the upgrade from previous versions
[13:43] <BluesKaj> ngaio, check in dolphin settings>configure dolphin >services. Make sure you have more than just the 5 services that came with plasma 5
[13:44] <BluesKaj> it's not a cure but an indicator
[13:46] <ngaio> I'm currently in a Unity session, but assuming that makes no difference, I have only 5 services, and if it's relevant, the left side panel has only one icon showing, for Startup. Only the last 3 services are activated.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> ok  ngaio https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=223&t=128621
[13:51] <ngaio> BluesKaj, if I fix the problem of missing services, I'll get the KDE file dialogs back?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> ngaio, I think so yes, not absolutely sure
[13:53] <ngaio> thanks, I'll take a look and report back
[13:54] <BluesKaj> plasma 5 has been such a muckup, I can't remember anymore :-)
[14:31] <ngaio> BluesKaj, the problem of the missing KDE file dialog was not fixed by that forum entry's instructions. It's not a big deal. I'll wait until 16.04, I guess. I was looking for it mainly so I could respond to request for information regarding a bug report I filed on KDE's handling of MTP devices
[14:32] <BluesKaj> ngaio, have you rebooted?
[14:32] <ngaio> BluesKaj, no I didn't try that, I just looged out
[14:32] <ngaio> logged*
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:33] <ngaio> I'll reboot now, if you suggest
[14:34] <BluesKaj> it might work
[14:35] <ngaio> brb
[14:41] <BluesKaj> ngaio, any luck? if not try this, sudo ln -s /usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/konqpopupmenuplugin.desktop /usr/share/kservicetypes5/
[14:45] <ngaio> BluesKaj, no luck. I already did that command. I got a whole bunch of additional servies in Dolphin, but still no proper file open dialog
[16:48] <solarhis> Bonsoir
[16:50] <krytarik> !fr | solarhis
[17:03] <hay207> hi guys, do i need the source to package a program or i can package from a binary of an older release?
[17:06] <genii> Source
[17:06] <hay207> ok, thanks genii
[19:20] <jaafar> hey friends
[19:20] <jaafar> so krunner now consistently crashes on login for me
[19:20] <jaafar> I get the error reporting popup, and go for the stack trace
[19:20] <jaafar> "Could not find debug symbols for this application"
[19:20] <jaafar> So I guess my questions are: 1) is there a known problem with krunner now, and 2) if I wanted to give a quality bug report how would I go about getting a proper stack trace?
[19:24] <denza242> jaafar: first you'd need the symbols
[19:25] <jaafar> denza242: excellent! any suggestions on how to get them?
[19:25] <denza242> I'll check the exact packagename in a bit, but it's probably krunner-dbg or something
[19:25] <jaafar> I wonder why the crash reporting tool couldn't figure it out...
[19:25] <denza242> jaafar: the packagename?
[19:26] <jaafar> why it couldn't find the debug symbols for me
[19:26] <regedit-work> hello
[19:26] <denza242> drkonqi (crashreporter) is system agnostic, and each distro has it's own weird naming convention for packages
[19:26] <regedit-work> is it bad if i do my do-release-upgrade from a regular in-session command shell? meaning - without logging off and doing it from tty1
[19:26] <jaafar> perhaps it's libkf5runner5-dbg
[19:27] <denza242> !info libkf5runner5-dbg
[19:27] <jaafar> oh joy
[19:27] <denza242> jaafar: ^yep, seems like it
[19:27] <jaafar> that explains a lot
[19:27] <jaafar> thanks guys
[19:27] <jaafar> I mean denza242
[19:28] <denza242> jaafar: no problem
[19:34] <regedit-work> well great... doing do-release-upgrade from command line froze the system some 60-80% through the process... the last output to console was Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[19:34] <regedit-work> cant even switch to tty
[19:35] <regedit-work> so i can't even check if the upgrade has completed or not.... :(
[19:35] <BluesKaj> regedit-work, upgrading to 15.10?
[19:36] <regedit-work> BluesKaj: ye
[19:36] <regedit-work> from 15.04
[19:36] <regedit-work> i (accidentally) initiated the upgrade from within a logged in session graphical command console (Konsole) instead of perhaps better to have logged out and to it from tty
[19:37] <BluesKaj> so just a frozen terminal
[19:37] <regedit-work> BluesKaj: no the entire system is frozen; no mouse, no key combinations, not even switching to tty works
[19:39] <regedit-work> whut thuh fuhhhhhhh.... D:
[19:40] <BluesKaj> ctl+PrtScn+REISUB ?
[19:40] <regedit-work> REISUB? whut?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> it'll totally reboot
[19:41] <BluesKaj> !REISUB
[19:42] <regedit-work> i mean, should i do that? any chance i'd be interrupting the still-running upgrade?
[19:42] <regedit-work> interesting never knew about that one
[19:42] <BluesKaj> oops alt+....
[19:43] <BluesKaj> well, if you have patience maybe whatever is happening will unfreeze itself , but I doubt it.
[19:43] <regedit-work> well i did it
[19:43] <regedit-work> and now i land at a grub prompt
[19:43] <regedit-work> the upgrade probably didnt leave grub in a bootable state
[19:44] <regedit-work> or didnt finish configuring it... :(
[19:44] <regedit-work> FFFFFU
[19:44] <BluesKaj> maybe a an update and upgrade from the VT/TTY will finish it
[19:44] <regedit-work> yes but how to boot
[19:44] <regedit-work> i'm at a grub prompt
[19:45] <regedit-work> guuuhhhhhhh
[19:45] <regedit-work> you have miserably failed Kubuntu, you have failed the user terribly
[19:45] <regedit-work> i will remember this Kubuntu
[19:45] <BluesKaj> do you have another linux OS in grub
[19:45] <regedit-work> BluesKaj: it's not a boot menu, it's a command prompt saying grub>
[19:46] <BluesKaj> oh the grub rescue prompt ...bummer
[19:47] <BluesKaj> but is there another linux on your machine
[19:48] <regedit-work> "bummer"? releasing broken upgrade processes that break a users OS and make it unbootable is outright evil...
[19:48] <regedit-work> not you BluesKaj :p
[19:48] <regedit-work> but i am fuming right now, just saying
[19:48] <Pebete> Hi, is there an estimate date for the availability of Plasma 5.5 for Kubuntu 15.10?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> regedit-work, I have to ask, did you upgrade your packages before running the upgrade-release ?
[19:49] <regedit-work> now i have to spend an hour or more finding & writing a live buntu..... uhhhhh the outrage
[19:50] <regedit-work> BluesKaj: yes; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade were performed and completed successfully before do-release-upgrade
[19:50] <regedit-work> even sudo apt-ger dist-upgrade
[19:50] <regedit-work> for good measure
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Pebete, no firm date , the dev reponsible has a serious family matter to attend to so the builds are postponed for a few days
[19:51] <Pebete> Thanks
[19:52] <regedit-work> BluesKaj: is there no way to give this grub> command prompt directions to boot the Kubuntu that's there at least to text command line?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> regedit-work, the only thing I can suggest is systemrescue disk or boot-repair
[19:53] <regedit-work> why
[19:53] <regedit-work> on a scale of 0 to none
[19:54] <regedit-work> that is just fantastic
[19:54] <regedit-work> thanks anyway BluesKaj, i will now go break a brick wall or something
[19:54] <BluesKaj> well if you can't get to a VT/TTY I have no magic commands
[19:55] <regedit-work> i mean like, why does a grub> prompt exist anyway, if not to be able to manually boot something that is otherwise not perfectly configured to boot automatically...
[19:56] <BluesKaj> regedit-work, I always keep a boot-repair disk handy for these situations
[20:06] <vertago1> jaafar, I had that issue and I was able to clear it up by reseting the baloorc files
[20:07] <jaafar> vertago1: the only one I could find just has some Akonadi setting in it
[20:08] <vertago1> jaafar, I am trying to remember what I did to fix my issue with the debut symbols.
[20:08] <vertago1> *debug
[20:08] <jaafar> Oh
[20:08] <jaafar> well, thanks, hopefully I'm set on the krunner front
[20:08] <jaafar> the insight that package names are idiosyncratic was a helpful one
[20:10] <vertago1> jaafar did you change any of the settings related to generating core files?
[20:11] <jaafar> vertago1: where would those settings be :)
[20:12] <vertago1> jaafar the core dump size shouldn't be an issue as long as you are getting a list of the stack trace though. Did you get a list or just one line?
[20:13] <regedit-work> BluesKaj: I have an external 2TB hard drive formatted to NTFS, with a lot of space available. What are the chances of shrinking some space for a bootable live buntu on it?
[20:13] <jaafar> vertago1: I'm not sure; I was following the crash reporting wizard.  It told me my stack trace was useless, then couldn't download symbols.  Hopefully the second issue is now resolved.
[20:14] <vertago1> the symbols are usually in packages with -dbg at the end
[20:14] <vertago1> they are pretty large
[20:16] <vertago1> the package for krunner is probably libkf5runner5-dbg on kubuntu 15.10
[20:17] <vertago1> getting apport fixed and downloading them through it would probably be the best though.
[20:19] <BluesKaj> regedit-work, yes, resizing the drive with gparted disk and formatting to ext4 and installing kubuntu on it will definitely work
[20:19] <jaafar> yes denza242 helped me find them already
[20:19] <jaafar> I am ready for the next time it happens
[20:20] <regedit-work> BluesKaj: ok le'me try that rabbit hole...
[20:23] <BluesKaj> a 100GB ext4 partition for linux is plenty, regedit-work or even 50G if you don't plan on holding too much data on that partition
[20:37] <regedit-work> no this is just for the bootable recovery
[20:38] <regedit-work> is that a bad idea / not possible?
[20:39] <regedit-work> to make room on a drive currently fully occupied by an NTFS partition - for a bootable live buntu?
[20:52] <regedit-work> resizing 1.82 TiB to 1.8 TiB, how long should this take already?
[20:56] <ubuntourist> This afternoon I ran apt-get dist-upgrade, and all went as usual. But on te next power-on of the laptop, the UUID of the swap partition had changed... Why?
[20:56] <ubuntourist> How can I track it down?
[21:43] <vertago1> ubuntourist: some things to consider are whether or not you use cryptswap and whether or not you have booted off a live CD which may have mounted the swap.
[21:43] <vertago1> ubuntourist: I have never seen a partition change UUID on its own so I am guessing mkswap was run on it for some reason
[21:44] <ubuntourist> vertago1: Neither cryptswap nor a live CD.
[21:45] <ubuntourist> After the dist-upgrade, I shut down and moved to a different location. When I restarted, the keyboard was dead. After several restarts, with dead keyboard,
[21:46] <ubuntourist> I dropped into recovery at boot to see if I could ferret out the trouble.
[21:46] <vertago1> ubuntourist it is entirely possible if you powered off the machine while it was trying to write to disk it could have clobbered the uuid information on disk
[21:46] <ubuntourist> That's where I saw it was having trouble with swap and found a different UUID assigned than what I had in /etc/fstab
[21:47] <ubuntourist> vertago1: There's a possibility.
[21:48] <ubuntourist> vertago1: The beastie's had trouble shutting down normally of late, and I've had to resort to popping the battery to get it to really stop.
[21:48] <vertago1> ubuntourist, how do you shut it down?
[21:49] <vertago1> I have had some machines have issues that were fixed with later kernels
[21:49] <ubuntourist> vertago1: I try to wait several minutes, in the hopes that it stops writing before popping the battery.
[21:50] <vertago1> ubuntourist: something you may want to look at because it lets you force a disk sync :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses
[21:50] <ubuntourist> vertago1: I'm running Ubuntu Studio, and I normally just go to the Logout in the upper right, which offers a Logout, Restart, Shutdown or Suspend.
[21:51] <ubuntourist> (On occasion, I run a "sudo shutdown -h now" but rarely.)
[21:52] <ubuntourist> vertago1: Thanks. I'll look into that.
[22:08] <wxl> anyone know how add to klipper via the command line?
[22:09] <wxl> (with qt5)
[22:12] <vertago1> wxl: have you tried this: https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?68017-CLI-for-Plasma-5-Clipboard?
[22:12] <vertago1> apparently the widget is different from the app
[22:16] <wxl> vertago1: thanks. i was actually having the same problem-- not registered as a service
[22:53] <rattking> wxl: you can pipe to xsel to do that