[05:13] <pitti> Good morning
[05:56] <didrocks> good morning
[05:59] <hikiko> hello
[06:16] <didrocks> hey hikiko!
[06:23] <pitti> bonjour didrocks !
[06:23] <pitti> hey hikiko
[06:24] <didrocks> bonjour pitti, ça va ?
[06:24] <pitti> didrocks: ça va bien !
[06:24]  * pitti is setting up autopkgtesting on s390x, yay new toys :)
[06:25] <pitti> didrocks: et toi ?
[06:26] <didrocks> pitti: ça va ! Jetbrains changed their entire website with client-side javascript. I'm working on a way to make it working back with Ubuntu Make
[06:26] <hikiko> hello pitti didrocks \\
[06:27] <pitti> didrocks: urgh, screenscraping throug JS? meh
[06:28] <didrocks> pitti: I'm trying to avoid the JS screenscrapping on purpose :p
[07:49] <flocculant> didrocks: I found something else on an apt-get update/grade in an install yesterday - which seems to affect some flavours, reported it bug 1524937
[07:50] <flocculant> didn't appear yesterday in ubuntu's daily though
[07:50] <didrocks> flocculant: yeah, I guess it's the same issue than the one you told me yesterday
[07:50] <didrocks> flocculant: I'm fixing/releasing Ubuntu Make and then, I'll work on this
[07:50] <flocculant> I guess so - didn't want to try and explain that in IRC :D
[07:51] <didrocks> heh :)
[07:51] <flocculant> ack - just thought I'd let you know as soon as I could be bothered to get up - day off \o/
[07:51] <didrocks> flocculant: this missing file is the reason why you don't have a boot splash in virtualbox
[07:51] <didrocks> flocculant: ahah, enjoy! :)
[07:51] <flocculant> :)
[08:03] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[08:03] <didrocks> re seb128
[08:03] <seb128> re didrocks ;-)
[08:15] <pitti> salut seb128!
[08:15] <seb128> pitti, salut! comment ça va?
[08:15] <pitti> seb128: ça va bien, merci !
[08:15] <larsu> bonjour!
[08:15] <seb128> hey larsu, wie gehts?
[08:16] <larsu> great, thanks! And you?
[08:16] <seb128> I'm good thanks
[08:16] <larsu> are you still in London?
[08:16] <seb128> no, I did the trip for a day
[08:16] <larsu> ah
[08:16] <seb128> woke up at 7am was back at 22:45
[08:16] <larsu> :(
[08:17] <seb128> it's not too bad
[08:17] <seb128> the door to door trip is a bit less than 3 hours
[08:18] <larsu> that's pretty good!
[08:19] <seb128> yeah, woke up at 7, took the 8:30 flight from rotterdam, was at the office at 9:30 (with the 1 hour difference)
[08:21] <didrocks> hey larsu!
[08:23] <larsu> bonjour didrocks! Ça va?
[08:24] <didrocks> larsu: ça va, jetbrains changed their all website and went client-side javascript leaded
[08:24] <didrocks> so, I have an emergency release to do :p
[08:24] <didrocks> (people already opened bug reports as well, even if the change was overnight :p)
[08:25] <larsu> ha, wow
[08:25] <didrocks> I've foud their API though
[08:25] <didrocks> so, directly using it :)
[08:26] <didrocks> (just running the large tests locally before modifying the medium one + releasing)
[08:27] <didrocks> (their new icons are lovely btw)
[08:56] <bzoltan_> sil2100:  about that silo31. I would be happy to forget about the Xenial landing this time and just focus on the real deal... the OTA9 for Vivid overlay. What is 100% good and clear.
[08:57] <bzoltan_> sil2100:  The address-book-app test failure is not a UITK related one, but I  can look after that issue after this UITK is merged and landed.
[08:57] <sil2100> bzoltan_: it's something I'm considering, but still - the fact is address-book-app *only* fails to build with the new UITK
[08:57] <bzoltan_> sil2100:  for me the Vivid landing is the priority ... nobody and no product is using Xenial UITK or address-book
[08:58] <sil2100> So UITK needs to have something to do with the unbuildability
[08:58] <willcooke> morning team
[08:58] <bzoltan_> sil2100: with respect I disagree... the addressbook builds fine... it is an AP test on xenial what fails
[08:58] <bzoltan_> sil2100:  except if it is just flakyness
[08:58] <didrocks> good morning willcooke
[08:59] <willcooke> hey didrocks, how goes?
[08:59] <didrocks> willcooke: fixing Ubuntu Make has JetBrains changed completely their websites and went to client-side templating :p
[08:59] <willcooke> yay!
[08:59] <didrocks> found their API and poking with it, all large tests pass, adapting the medium ones now with new certificates, docker container and such…
[09:00] <willcooke> nice job for a Friday :/
[09:00] <didrocks> yeah ;) well, at least, there are 2 bug reports about it
[09:00] <didrocks> and some °1
[09:00] <didrocks> +1*
[09:00] <didrocks> so, it means, people are really using it :p
[09:00] <didrocks> it's not only my tests complaining
[09:00] <willcooke> thats excellent, kinda
[09:04] <larsu> morning willcooke!
[09:04] <darkxst> hey willcooke didrocks larsu
[09:05] <larsu> hi darkxst
[09:05] <darkxst> and seb128  of course
[09:05] <seb128> hey willcooke darkxst
[09:05] <willcooke> hey guys
[09:05] <willcooke> seb128, good return trip?
[09:06]  * darkxst been playing experiments in GCI
[09:06] <didrocks> hey darkxst
[09:06] <darkxst> unforunately no one seems to be biting
[09:06] <seb128> willcooke, yeah, uneventfull, London City is great, there was nobody at security, it took me like 3 minutes to go from entrance to gate
[09:07] <willcooke> nice!
[09:07] <seb128> did you stay long?
[09:07] <willcooke> Nah, I had to catch the train at 1953, so I headed out shortly after you did
[09:07] <seb128> k
[09:14] <darkxst> Laney, can you give the packageset script a prod!
[09:15] <darkxst> ^ubuntu GNOME one
[09:15] <seb128> larsu, I can't reproduce the geonames u-c-c issue on my normal laptop, so maybe some timing issue ... in any case it looks good enough to be proposed I think, can you do that? (with a build-depends on libgeonames-dev)
[09:17] <larsu> seb128: it looks good to me as well. Let's put it in and wait for feedback?
[09:17] <larsu> I'll put up a merge request
[09:17] <seb128> +1
[09:17] <seb128> thanks
[09:23] <larsu> seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity-control-center/datetime-use-geonames/+merge/280265
[09:23] <seb128> larsu, thanks
[09:35] <mvo> hi, I feel a bit stupid but for some reason I lost the indicator-session (the right in the top right with the logout menu) and I can't bring it back. I can see in ps that indicator-session-service is running. I tried unity --reset and unity-tweak-tool with no results (not reset) and poked in dconf to see if the indicators is somehow disabled but no luck. any hints for me?
[09:36] <larsu> mvo: it's got an upstart job that you can restart
[09:37] <mvo> larsu: I tried killing it, it got a new pid but nothing changed in my panel
[09:38] <larsu> mvo: weird! Does it throw any errors if you start the binary manually? (stop the upstart job before)
[09:39] <mvo> larsu: let me try
[09:41] <mvo> larsu: hm, nothing, no error it just runs, let me strac eit
[09:46] <mvo> larsu: this is interessting, so when I enable "show real name on panel" I get the name, I suspect it can not find the icon for some reason. I am using radiance but did switch to high contrast in the past to see if the gtk-notebook tabs are easier to see this way.
[09:49] <larsu> mvo: oh! But you're back on ubuntu-mono icons now?
[09:49] <mvo> larsu: I have no idea, how can I check? I'm back to whereever the systme-settings bring me when I click on radiance :)
[09:50] <larsu> yeah that should be it. To make sure, `gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme`
[09:52] <mvo> larsu: I'm at adwaita in the icon theme. I'm not sure I did that consciously (I doubt it) but this is a older install that goes back to probably pre 14.04
[09:52] <larsu> mvo: switching theme in system settings should reset the icon theme as well
[09:53] <larsu> mvo: otherwise just gsettings set that same key to ubuntu-mono-light (or -dark if you're on Ambiance)
[09:53] <mvo> larsu: I just verified and it does, thank you and sorry for the noise
[09:58] <larsu> mvo: no worries :)
[10:00] <mvo> larsu: I wonder how hard it would be to display a "broken" icon if the icon can not be found in the icon theme, it seems this needs to be done in the unity code itself (?) because the indicators just send the name over?
[10:04] <larsu> mvo: yeah that's actually what it should do (GtkImage does that by default)
[10:04] <larsu> not sure why it isn't working
[10:07] <mvo> larsu: hm, thanks, let me poke at it for a sec
[10:14] <mvo> larsu: heh .) its nt using a GtkImage for rendering, its nux+cairo
[10:26] <mvo> geh, unity building takes long
[10:30] <seb128> indeed, cpp for you :-/
[10:31] <Trevinho> Oh... I forgot to say "hi" today... Being in the office makes you forget to repeat that online... :/. Sorry.
[10:31] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, how was your flight back?
[10:31] <seb128> hey Trevinho!
[10:31] <seb128> good
[10:31] <seb128> no surprise
[10:31] <seb128> how was the party?
[10:32] <Trevinho> seb128, Laney, willcooke, xnox: we did a mistake last night... we didn't take advantage of the photo booth :-(. We would have been awesome, I know...
[10:33] <willcooke> ha
[10:33] <willcooke> Rule 1:  No evidence
[10:33] <Trevinho> ahah
[10:33] <Trevinho> seb128: the party was nice. At certain point they stopped giving drinks for free, but that was quite late (~23:30)...
[10:33] <Trevinho> So, there was enough time to enjoy the night before
[10:34] <Trevinho> Unfortunately there was not that much food... But, who really needs it?
[10:34] <willcooke> :)
[10:34] <seb128> liquid food!
[10:39] <seb128> xnox, Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-control-center/no-gcc-recommends/+merge/280179 in case you didn't see it yesterday
[10:39] <seb128> xnox, thanks ;-)
[10:40] <seb128> I'm going to do a landing with and some other things a bit later
[10:40] <seb128> but first going for lunch
[10:40] <seb128> bbiab
[10:43] <didrocks> enjoy seb128
[11:11] <didrocks> flocculant: so, I wonder if the issue is more general (on the whole live), if I force showing up the splashscreen after booting, I have the xubuntu detail theme as expected
[11:11] <didrocks> I wonder if it's the same on the desktop image, but it seems there is none since the transition
[11:11] <Sweet5hark> <- xkcd303'ed still with snappy.
[11:12] <didrocks> cyphermox: you were looking (as you did one plymouth upload) at fixing the ubuntu desktop image? I'm unsure where the live logs since we moved from people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive to log them
[11:12] <didrocks> flocculant: on the other bug report, it's a false positive (just a harmless warning), I have a plymouth fix ready to not confuse users, but I'm waiting on the other fix first
[11:13] <didrocks> I wonder if /usr isn't available on the live or such?
[11:15] <flocculant> didrocks: it certainly *appears* to be general - do you mean the bug I reported is a false positive?
[11:15] <didrocks> flocculant: yeah, it's just a warning which has no effect (and only appear in a case for flavors which don't implement their own .so)
[11:16] <didrocks> flocculant: but nothing related to the live
[11:16] <didrocks> flocculant: btw, ubiquity in install mode is segfaulting on the xubuntu live
[11:16] <flocculant> yea - I assumed it was nothing to do with live, but saw it so thought it best to report rather than forget
[11:17] <didrocks> yep
[11:17] <didrocks> just not doing an upload just for this
[11:17] <Laney> hi!
[11:17] <didrocks> flocculant: ok, I'm doing a xubuntu install just to check
[11:17] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[11:17] <Laney> seb128: don't you want to recommend the faces thing or is that seeded?
[11:17] <didrocks> shouldn't you be off?
[11:17] <Laney> yeah :)
[11:17] <didrocks> :p
[11:18] <didrocks> Laney: as you are here, would you be kind enough to direct me through launchpad to get latest ubuntu desktop live build attempt? I'm unsure how to get to it since we moved from people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive
[11:18] <didrocks> (want to check if it's still plymouth or something else…)
[11:19] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/xenial/ubuntu
[11:20] <didrocks> excellent, thanks Laney :)
[11:22] <Laney> xnox: you should submit your ual fix
[11:23] <xnox> ok
[11:23] <didrocks> flocculant: ok, so that's only the live, once installed, you don't have that issue anymore
[11:23] <xnox> Laney, yes, mentor....
[11:23] <didrocks> flocculant: I really wonder if /usr is available on live (but plymouth gives no log :/)
[11:23] <didrocks> flocculant: I'm check yesterday's ubuntu desktop image to see if it's only your flavor or everything
[11:26] <xnox> Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-app-launch/gnu99/+merge/280282
[11:28] <Laney> thanks!
[11:28] <Laney> xnox: did you see that it blocks on click? :)
[11:28] <Laney> really I just came online on my day off to check on this :P
[11:29] <xnox> Laney, yes. and so did cjwatson, hence he staged click dual landing in a silo.
[11:29] <Laney> siloooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo
[11:29] <flocculant> didrocks: with the images I checked it only appeared to be mine which text instead of splash, but I did only check Ubuntu and Lubuntu otherwise
[11:30] <xnox> Laney, i'm afraid i'm not in on the joke ;-)
[11:30] <Laney> never mind
[11:30] <didrocks> flocculant: yeah, I can reproduce that, but not on installed version, right?
[11:31] <Laney> I guess this gets to block on the QA team if it's a dual landing...
[11:31] <didrocks> flocculant: only when booting the live
[11:31] <flocculant> didrocks: ack
[11:31] <didrocks> (I'm downloading yesterday's ubuntu image to confirm it's widespread)
[11:31] <flocculant> oh
[11:32] <flocculant> didrocks: actually - just installed today's build and http://i.imgur.com/oK6obA9.png
[11:32] <didrocks> flocculant: what is wrong?
[11:32] <didrocks> (not using xubuntu, sorry ;))
[11:32] <flocculant> well it shouldn't be black :)
[11:33] <didrocks> flocculant: I guess it's probably because your dm isn't clearing the screen
[11:33] <didrocks> and so you have the plymouth screen
[11:33] <didrocks> then, your dm overlay
[11:33] <didrocks> and as you don't have the plymouth detail theme showing up…
[11:33] <xnox> Laney, ubuntu-ui-toolkit, autopilot, click all will need to go in together
[11:34] <flocculant> didrocks: not a clue here :p I'll assume you're talking sense :)
[11:34] <didrocks> ;)
[11:37] <didrocks> flocculant: ok, so should be only flavors… the ubuntu desktop image is showing up the detail theme
[11:37]  * didrocks is even more puzzle then
[11:38] <didrocks> flocculant: I may need to think on that a little bit longer, I don't see immediately what is wrong making flavors not showing up their derived themes
[11:38] <flocculant> throw sand at me - that's Laney's reaction to me :p
[11:38] <didrocks> ahah :)
[11:38] <didrocks> no, probably something I did wrong
[11:38] <didrocks> but I don't understand what right now
[11:38] <didrocks> (and no plymouth logs :/)
[11:39] <flocculant> didrocks: ok - well I'm sure the lightbulb will go off in your head at some point - I do try to skim the backlog in here :)
[11:40] <didrocks> flocculant: do you have a xubuntu-desktop iso (before the 9th) handy that you can share?
[11:41] <didrocks> flocculant: forget, the one from the 9th is good enough
[11:42]  * didrocks downloads
[11:42] <didrocks> argh, was cleaned up :p
[11:42] <didrocks> flocculant: so yeah, one from the 8th of before, if you can share that, that would be helpful! :)
[11:43] <Laney> xnox: if I'm reading the uninstallability of ubuntu-touch/amd64 right it's because qtmir and qtmir-gles have different versions
[11:43] <Laney> = ${source:Version} depends to another source package's binaries
[11:43] <Laney> great!
[11:44]  * Laney has to go shopping for a christmas tree now though, alas
[11:44] <Laney> laters
[11:44] <willcooke> Pictures of you on your bike with a tree please
[11:44] <didrocks> enjoy your week-end Laney!
[11:45] <Laney> oh hey willcooke, tried to find you and Trevinho when leaving yesterday but didn't, sorry!
[11:45] <Laney> hope you had a fun party
[11:45]  * Laney byeeee
[11:45] <willcooke> cya
[11:46] <Trevinho> enjoy!
[12:25] <flocculant> didrocks: sorry - not here, I don't have a huge amount of data space, so after zysnc does it's thing, rm has a go
[12:33] <seb128> Laney, good point, updated
[12:37] <mvo> larsu: just so that you know that answering my silly questions was not totally in vain: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1525186
[12:37] <mvo> larsu: with patch
[12:38] <mvo> Trevinho: are you the right person to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1525186 ? or should I ping someone else? there is a patch in there, I'm not asking for fixing, just to review/merge the fix
[12:39] <Trevinho> mvo: ok thanks...
[12:39] <Trevinho> mvo: I guess that should be a role of unity-panel service or of the indicator itself btw, as it happens when with indicator-appmenu, but.... I can check that
[12:39] <Trevinho> larsu: what you think ?
[12:40] <mvo> Trevinho: just switch to "highcontrast" in xenial and you will see the issue. so the indicator sends "image-missing" as the icon name but for some reason the code that calls g_icon_info_get_filename gets /org/gnome .../image-missing which of course can not be loaded
[12:41] <mvo> Trevinho: so I think there is an underlying issue but still having a fallback if there is no pixbuf is a good thing IMO
[12:42] <larsu> mvo: oh nice!
[12:42] <Trevinho> ouch....
[12:43] <Trevinho> larsu: do you have idea why g_icon gets that wrong filename?
[12:43] <larsu> Trevinho: which GIcon
[12:43] <didrocks> Trevinho: mind looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~aneeshmadhavan/unity/unity/+merge/280289 and confirm what I'm seeing?
[12:43] <mvo> I updated the bugreport to have the real log message
[12:43] <Trevinho> mvo: well, it's not a bad thing... That's true... Especially with indicators with no label, or we'd lose them
[12:44] <Trevinho> didrocks: I was looking at that right now
[12:44] <mvo> Trevinho: thats what I was experiencing  and I was very confused (and I don't like that :P
[12:44] <larsu> Trevinho: I like mvo's approach. Be liberal in what you accept blah blah - this goes for empty icon strings as well
[12:44] <mvo> (being confused that is)
[12:44] <Trevinho> didrocks: I don't think it's needed, that's something that it's automatically done at packaging level
[12:44] <mvo> larsu: \o/
[12:44]  * larsu is always in favor of solutions that make mvo less confused :)
[12:44] <Trevinho> :)
[12:45] <didrocks> Trevinho: right, but it's still an easy task for new contributors
[12:45] <xnox> Laney, have you submitted your fix for ubuntu-app-launch? (the return value?!)
[12:45] <didrocks> Trevinho: and I guess it's more a "let's get it in for trunk"
[12:45] <didrocks> wdyt?
[12:45] <Trevinho> didrocks: mh, ok.... :)
[12:45] <didrocks> Trevinho: that was on your list btw :)
[12:45] <didrocks> Trevinho: so want to merge?
[12:45] <seb128> xnox, https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu-app-launch/fix-ftbfs/+merge/279322
[12:45] <seb128> xnox, he submitted it and then rejected pointing that existing one
[12:46] <xnox> ah, cool.
[12:46] <Trevinho> mvo: would you mind to make a merge proposal instead of the patch (no need for the debian changelog, as the ci-train will generate it for us :-))
[12:46] <Trevinho> ?
[12:46] <xnox> marking as prerequisite
[12:50] <mvo> Trevinho: sure, will do
[12:51] <Trevinho> mvo: thanks, just one small change: put the opening bracket on new line and define "image-missing" as a const string on the unnamed namespace...
[12:52] <mvo> Trevinho: thanks, I will do that too
[13:04] <Sweet5hark> meh
[13:04]  * Sweet5hark has troubles building against nss ...
[13:23] <mvo> Trevinho: pushed a slightly updated version, I'm testbuilding  now
[13:42] <cyphermox> didrocks: as Laney pointed out earlier, the logs are on Launchpad
[14:50] <seb128> didrocks, since you NEW review it you might feel like MIR review it as well? ;-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/geonames/+bug/1525156
[15:03] <didrocks> cyphermox: yeah, the question was "where to find those" :)
[15:03] <didrocks> seb128: not today, but can on Monday
[15:03] <didrocks> (did quite some MIRing this week, too many for my taste ;))
[15:07] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[15:07] <seb128> let's see maybe mterry beats you to it
[15:07] <seb128> but since he did gnome-logs recently I was trying to balance
[15:08]  * seb128 goes to help a friend to move some wood for the winter, back in an hour or so
[15:10] <didrocks> seb128: well, I did 5 this weeks :p
[15:10] <didrocks> so let our team balance it ourselves :p
[15:14]  * didrocks continues closing bugs because people are impacted by the jetbrains change
[15:14] <didrocks> we are now at 10 "+1" through various chan
[15:14] <didrocks> (and that's only people interacting)
[16:00] <willcooke> larsu, around?
[16:03]  * Sweet5hark finished something like a LibreOffice PoC build inside snapcraft!
[16:04] <willcooke> \o/
[16:07] <Sweet5hark> I brutally armtwisted it around to build the xmlsecurity/nss horrors, so likely anything using signed libreoffice documents will break horribly ...
[16:08] <Trevinho> qengho: hey, did you report a bug for that Alt+t issue?
[16:08] <qengho> Trevinho: no.
[16:08] <Sweet5hark> ... and it doesnt yet finish tests (they are not failing though, some tests fail to build as of now still though ...
[16:08] <Trevinho> qengho: can you please? I've a fix for that...
[16:08] <qengho> Trevinho: Sure.
[16:09] <Sweet5hark> ... and finally: its not yet installing in the snap.
[16:09] <willcooke> Sweet5hark, it's a good start ;)
[16:09] <Sweet5hark> willcooke:  Yes, the rest should be solvable bit by bit.
[16:11] <Sweet5hark> Oh, and: The result will probably be huge still: as pitti said "LibreOfficeOS". But that will also be fixable incrementally then.
[16:17] <qengho> Trevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1525308
[17:14]  * didrocks waves good evening and good night! See you on Monday guys
[17:14] <Sweet5hark> didrocks: have a nice weekend!
[17:14]  * Sweet5hark is off too now. Bye guys!
[17:14] <willcooke> see ya didrocks Sweet5hark
[17:15] <didrocks> see you Sweet5hark, willcooke!
[17:34] <willcooke> g'night all
[17:57]  * Trevinho waves...
[17:57] <Trevinho> oh, not really...
[21:22] <xclaesse> desrt, Hi, any progress on GSettingsBackendChangeset? any chance you can review appservice?
[21:23] <xclaesse> desrt, I've got the whole thing working now, using a keyfile instead of apparmor rules