[07:07] <goddard> why does Tizen have CDMA support but Ubuntu Phone does not?
[07:07] <goddard> can't just intergrate it?
[07:09] <Stskeeps> well, if you took a look at tizen's telephony stack you'd understand it's a NIH'ed telephony stack (last i saw) that is quite incompatible with the ofono that ubuntu phone and others use..
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[07:42] <goddard> Stskeeps: thanks for the primer
[08:55] <sturmflut> There are still CDMA phones?
[08:56] <sturmflut> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks Wow, never looked at it
[08:59] <duflu> sturmflut: Hello... When you rebuilt your glmark2 package against libmirclient9, do you include the libmirclient9.* or rely on an external one?
[09:00] <duflu> "do you include libmirclient.so.9*"
[09:00] <duflu> I mean
[09:00] <duflu> Oh wait
[09:01] <duflu> Yes, anyway, either.
[09:09] <sturmflut> duflu: I rely on the external one
[09:09] <sturmflut> duflu: And I see now that this might cause problems?
[09:09] <duflu> sturmflut: Cool. So we can now change the protocol, just so long as we keep ABI level 9 :)
[09:10] <duflu> sturmflut: External is good. Thanks
[09:10] <sturmflut> duflu: Hm, but will the phone ship libmirclient.so.9 for all eternity? Probably not?
[09:10] <duflu> sturmflut: No, but we will defer any libmirclient10 for a long time (some major version)
[09:11] <duflu> Although it could be eternity. That would also be good.
[09:32] <mcphail> Is there any way we can post replies to questions about our apps in the reviews section of the store?
[09:33] <sturmflut> mcphail: Not that I know of
[09:34] <zzarr> good morning
[09:34] <sturmflut> mcphail: The "Reviews" are actually not there for user questions I think
[09:34] <sturmflut> zzarr: Good morning!
[09:35] <zzarr> :-)
[09:35] <mcphail> sturmflut: Thanks. I'll soundly thrash that user so he doesn't ask a question again :)
[09:37] <ondra> adfad666 yes it boot, booth 5.0 and 5.1. camera video recording and hw accelerated video playback does not work, otherwise rest should be functional
[09:38] <ondra> adfad666 flo is in same shape
[09:49] <sanjay_> hi
[09:51] <sanjay_> new student,installed dev-proposed-cust  through multirom mgr on nexsus 4
[09:52] <sanjay_> There was a camera app showing installed,did not work.After uninstall has disappeared from U store
[09:52] <sanjay_> How to install working camera?
[09:53] <sanjay_> running Wileyfox
[09:55] <mcphail> sanjay_: I think it is a hiccough just now. The current camera app uses a new framework which is only available on devices running the latest rc-proposed update (I think). If you can install rc-proposed, I think it should work...
[09:56] <mcphail> sanjay_: I don't think the dev* channels are recommended
[09:56] <sanjay_> i have proposed deve-cust ...is that the problem?
[09:58] <mcphail> sanjay_: I don't know that channel, but I suspect so. I think the dev* channels are based off 16.04, and are expected to be broken at most times
[09:59] <sturmflut> Has anybody ever tried to port Ubuntu to one of these "Android TV boxes"? Wouldn't that make for a perfect, cheap little "desktop"?
[09:59] <mcphail> sanjay_: If you want cutting-edge, use rc-proposed (which is only broken sometimes)
[10:00] <sanjay_> alright,I would try rc-proposed.Txs buddy
[10:00] <mcphail> sanjay_: good luck
[10:02] <sanjay_> quitting,bye for now
[10:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy birthday to UNICEF! 😃
[10:17]  * mcphail wonders if we can legally sing Happy Birthday without fear of prosecution yet
[10:57] <nox_> Hello all
[10:57] <nox_> Can I kindly ask community for help: I need a cheap (x86 if possible) 10"+ tablet. The purpose of the toy is browsing the web and app development, it means I don't want spend my time for hardcore kernel tuning (but tiny configuration is acceptable).
[10:57] <nox_> From what I know the only option is Nexus 10.
[10:58] <nox_> I also found the video with Aspire P3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoa6RwnCq1g
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> nox_: nexus7 works like a charm on ubuntu touch
[11:02]  * nox_ "10"+ tablet"
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> nox_: not possible for now
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> !devices | nox_
[11:03] <nox_> Nexus 10 is on the list
[11:04] <anpok> yes, but while moving forward it is getting harder to support nexus 10
[11:05] <nox_> so nexus 10 isn't working?
[11:05] <anpok> nox_: i.e. the most current rc-proposed channel does not work on nexus10..
[11:05] <anpok> we improved things with the newest mir versio
[11:05] <anpok> n
[11:05] <nox_> ok, thanks
[11:05] <anpok> it might work again
[11:05] <anpok> I was about to test that these days
[11:06] <nox_> I understand it, but the situation is so strange in context of convergence feature
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> nox_: convergence will meet the future soon
[11:09] <nox_> I can say only about my use case, but having small enough, but usable with keyboard, tablet is natural
[11:13] <nox_> summarizing, anpok, you don't recommend Nexus 10 as shortterm toy. And what about Aspire P3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hoa6RwnCq1g
[11:13] <anpok> nox_: I dont know how to make it boot ubuntu - but if you manage that - you wont run into driver issues then..
[11:18] <nox_> thanks
[11:21] <nox_> If someone has positive experience with 10"+ tablet please leave a message https://plus.google.com/+bademusl/posts/Go3yh2abeoJ
[11:57] <Spacedog_ie> hi, I need info on backing up my ubuntu phone and wiping it. I need to return faulty hardware and want to make backup
[11:57] <Spacedog_ie> I can't connect to SSH since last update?
[11:58] <Spacedog_ie> any help appreciated
[12:03] <Spacedog_ie> ok, started sshd
[12:03] <Spacedog_ie> can connect with mobax
[12:04] <Spacedog_ie> it asks for logon id but boots me after entering phablet or root.
[12:04] <Spacedog_ie> this used to work before the update.
[12:05] <Spacedog_ie> I'm puzzled
[12:07] <Spacedog_ie> ok, tried on my ubuntu client with command line ssh
[12:08] <Spacedog_ie> it says permission denied public key
[12:08] <mcphail> Spacedog_ie: do you have your public key on the device?
[12:08] <Spacedog_ie> everythings defauly bro.
[12:09] <ogra_> Spacedog_ie, password auth is disabled in the phone sshd
[12:09] <Spacedog_ie> I used to be able to SSH in before the last update.
[12:09] <mcphail> Spacedog_ie: if you haven't added your public key, you won't be able to ssh in
[12:09] <ogra_> you can only log in if your key was copied to the device
[12:09] <Spacedog_ie> can you talk me through that please.
[12:09] <Spacedog_ie> or link to an FAQ plz
[12:09] <ogra_> there is an askubuntu.com thread for it
[12:10] <ogra_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/348714/how-can-i-access-my-ubuntu-phone-over-ssh/599041#599041
[12:10] <Spacedog_ie> thanks bro, much appreciated
[12:17] <Spacedog_ie> quick question, what folder are contacts info locates?
[12:17] <Spacedog_ie> located
[12:28] <Spacedog_ie> hi, sorry to be greedy for help but how can I go about backing up contacts
[12:31] <jgdx> Spacedog_ie, renatu could probably help you out there, but he's not on for another couple of hours.
[12:34] <Spacedog_ie> ok
[12:52] <renatu> Spacedog_ie, the contacts are stored on EDS data folter. ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/
[12:52] <Ubunmx4> Hi all :D
[12:53] <Ubunmx4> I have a m4 phone whit ubuntu, i try to change the wallpaper in to the phone
[12:53] <Ubunmx4> but it's always white
[12:54] <Ubunmx4> i believe i need to change the flyme wallpaper, but i don't know where
[12:54] <Ubunmx4> can anyone help me?
[12:59] <davmor2> Ubunmx4: nope this is done deliberately currently as it make the text in scope readable, you can change the welcome screen only for now
[12:59] <Ubunmx4> :O
[13:00] <Ubunmx4> really? can't we change the background image?
[13:05] <Ubunmx4> but it's only for now, in to the future we can have opportunity to change the wallpaper?
[13:06] <davmor2> Ubunmx4: yeap, as I say you can change the welcome screen image
[13:06] <Ubunmx4> davmor2: i have see this image on official site of ubuntu http://www.ubuntuphone.it/files/2015/02/ubuntu-touch-meizu-MX4.jpg
[13:07] <Ubunmx4> the phone have violet screen
[13:07] <Spacedog_ie> thanks Ubunmx4
[13:07] <davmor2> Ubunmx4: old image, it started that colour and was changed to make the text easier to read and a more consistent feel
[13:08] <Ubunmx4> Spacedog_ie: thanks for what?? :D
[13:08] <Ubunmx4> i understand davmor2
[13:08] <Spacedog_ie> thanks renatu
[13:08] <Spacedog_ie> oops
[13:09] <Ubunmx4> the phone whit white screen is so boring  :x :S
[13:10] <Ubunmx4> (c: need we to whait how much time for the wallpaper changer?
[13:44] <sturmflut> bfiller: Ping, regarding bug 1434517 "480p and 1080p video appear to use the same bitrate", has the question about the recommended bitrate for each video resolution been answered?
[14:30] <bfiller> sturmflut: no it hasn't been answered, but we're comparing to what Android does, seems they use variable bit rate
[14:31] <bfiller> sturmflut: if you have information about this would be helpful
[15:18] <Ubunmx4> davmor2: how can i do a screenshot in ubuntu phone?
[15:18] <davmor2> Ubunmx4: both volume keys at the same time
[15:23] <Ubunmx4> a oko
[15:23] <Ubunmx4> ok
[15:25] <Ubunmx4> this phone can change his firmware whit android firmware?